abi o
i had to dodge some bullets

@loyika
I read all ur stuff, (blogs and links inclusive) and i have this to say. U deliberately look for anti-manutd stuff and paste the links here so we all go. . . .hey, loyika's hit us hard!!!. especially with the ronaldo leaving manutd issue. U follow this story like its the end of the world coming,. . .quoting and pastin every link that's got something on ronaldo's exit. _{No problems o, juts sayin wat i observed.}

i deliberately mentioned those ex united players to prove a point, but u chose to look at the loyalty brouhaha. Point of wat i was sayin is, if any player leaves united, on watever basis, (ego, beefs, money, , . .watever), we move on.

and i'm sayin this, if ronaldo leaves united on watever basis (ego, beefs, money. . . [b].LACK OF LOYALTY _{(since u said thats wat the whole issue was about)}, manutd moves on. [/b] . We are not a one man show, so no player is irreplaceable. and i think u know fergie's reputation in that regard.

like i said before, i love ronaldo, so i wont like him leavin, but if he decides to leave, nothing do me

PROUDLY UNITED

justkunmi:

@loyika
I read all your stuff, (blogs and links inclusive) and i have this to say. U deliberately look for anti-manutd stuff and paste the links here so we all go. . . .hey, loyika's hit us hard!!!. especially with the ronaldo leaving manutd issue. U follow this story like its the end of the world coming,. . .quoting and pastin every link that's got something on ronaldo's exit. _{No problems o, juts sayin what i observed.}

that's too shallow, dig deeper !
since you've been following all of loyika's post that's all you could come up with
how many links has he put up concerning c.ronaldo ? did you even bother to compare that with other links he's put up ?

it's nobody's fault here that ronaldo is running his mouth and speculating. if you can't leave with it, too bad. if it's hurting you too much that guys talk about it, take a hike gee !
i'm just wondering how you approach matters, since peoples' opinion obviously is irritating to you.

maybe we all should consider j-girl's suggestion; leave manyoo talks for man you fans.
then hopefully manyoo fans will, at the same breath, learn to desist from saying "hi" in other clubs' thread too.

cheers.

Wormy

Thank you very much , Thats why even if we get on each others nerves sometimes, i miss Jackal, cause he will address issues point by point even if he doesn't agree with what ever you put up, if you challenge him he will look at your points and address them.

The only person that gets to those heights is Manu4laif

Can you imagine Rikky accusing me of Praising Wenger Youth policy always Sometimes i just feel so sad and can't be bothered to draw issues with some folks that just wake up from no where and get involved in stuff (as if my discussion with bola ni had anything to do with him )

In my post i was talking about Player Loyalty, i praised players like Ryan giggs and Roy Keane and called them LEGENDS. I even mentioned that Keano will be remembered more fondly than Patrick Viera due to the Loyalty he showed his club. I mentioned that Sir Alex has done a lot for Ronaldo and put up a new link where carlos queros was advising Ronaldo.

I suggested that Sir Alex show ronaldo a tape of Anelka's life to show him the grass is not always greener on the other side. I even say time without number that as much as i hate Divinos antics and the fact that he is a scummie, I love him as a player. But instead of addressing points (like akola did with the fabregas issue which he felt he had a different opinion, and i took him up on this and even offered for us to continue the discussion on the strictly gunners thread) What i see is stupid accusation that i put Arsenal mania sites on Man united thread.

Firstly please ask me which thread i put up that was biased against United (i will paste them for all to see) Did i not put a caveat before i put up the ANR thread that i just felt it was a good analysis and tied in with the issue i was trying to bring up .

Like i told Kola once on the Chelsea thread, when i have free time i read a lot and if i see an issue concerning any club, ARSENAL INCLUDED, I bring it up, and i put up a link to back what i am saying, i can't claim something i didn't say. (the same JK made me prove what i was saying concerning Michel Platini, by providing him a link, but ohhhh!! when it comes to Man United!! oh then i get folks like rikky talking thrash, as if my reply to Bolani was meant for him.)

Is it not a Dedicated Man United supporter that started the "have you known a Chelsea fan for 10 years"thread Was that Loyika $play comes to the Arsenal thread and talks about us getting a Pen every game, but he forgets to mention the Dive ronaldo did to get the Pen against the Spuds

Even with that, i had to force Jk to accept it was a dive, and rightly bring up the issue of officiating. Cuse they conviently chose to sweep it under the carpet. Thats why i praise the NL Gunners, on our thread we try to discuss issues, even when we have arguements and disagree (case in point issues over Hoyte vs eboue and Arsene's strange decision to sell Lauren) But what is lacking in most threads is a forum for discussion, what we get is a rally point of "ONE United","Arsenal till i die","Blues for life","Barca 4 ever".

If we all want to leave the Sports forum as a rally ground, fair enough, If we only want arsenal peeps to bring up issues in the Arsenal thread and Man united peeps to bring up issues in the Man united thread. fair enough. I freely decided to leave the Chelsea thread to the chelskites and theyseem to be doing ok for themselves, so no ship will sink even if all the present members leave, and new members take over.

Thats how it always go, some of us talked about the new thread craze, we were accused by others, now the same others complain about it, so nothing new there

Its just a pity that most peeps are afraid of any discusion if it doesn't suit them. i end this with the links i put up and leave you all to judge if any where anti-united in nature.

GOONER 89

Oh!! by the way, i ain't leaving the United thread Its my duty to taunt United and their supporters with every free opportunity i get, i owe it to my self as a Gooner

I am completely lost.

Haba!

Rikky and Loyika.

I doubt if i have seen you guys attacking like this.

I beg sheath the sword jare.

But, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GROW UP AND STOP US IN SWEARING LANGUAGES?

The Myles plamer stuff i put up, and this is what i said before i put it up;

and this Analysis, (forget that it's an arsenal blog, the analysis is quite ok so just read it and comment on what you think)

[b]Anelka and Cristiano Ronaldo are mercenaries
By Myles Palmer

Arsenal could not keep Nicolas Anelka in 1999, when he was on £12,500 a week.
It now looks as if Manchester United cannot keep Cristiano Ronaldo, who is on £50,000 a week.
We're told that Barcelona have offered £40 million for him.
Ronaldo, like Anelka at the same stage, is a boy. And, like Anelka, he is a mercenary.

His story is short but interesting. In 2003 Cristiano Ronaldo, 18, was signed from Sporting Lisbon for £12 million. In 2005 he was reported to be Manchester United's lowest-paid player on £14,000 a week, so they gave him a new contract on £50,000 a week till 2010.

There had been talk of him going to Chelsea but Sir Alex said, " He has three years left on his contract and we are only doing what we do in these situations. He is happy here. He has been fantastic. The courage he has to get the ball all the time, the confidence in his ability is terrific. He's done well, the lad."

In 2006-2007, Ronaldo has raised his game and scored 15 league goals before February. So, twice in a four year period, the winger has outperformed his contract, given his team more than they expected, more than they had paid for. If Manchester United are champions, Cristiano Ronaldo will be the Footballer of the Year.

He was 22 last week and now Spain is calling.

United have offered to double his wages to £100,000 a week. That is over £4 million a year but he allegedly wants £8 million a year. His agent's argument is : If he's the best player in the world, he deserves to be paid as the best player in the world.

Ronaldo recently said: “I don’t know where I will be in the space of the next six months. For the moment, I’m only thinking about training well every day.”

If they give him £8 million a year for four years it's £32 million and Manchester United can afford to pay him that.
So the £32 million is not the problem.

Their problem is : Should they turn down £40 million ? If Ronaldo doesn't want to play for United, why turn down £40 million?

Because Manchester United do not sell their best players !!!! And because Sir Alex and his assistant Carlos Queiroz probably think the boy would not be as good elsewhere, away from their management. With the help of the Scot and his Portuguese assistant,  Ronaldo has improved beyond recognition since he arrived as a skinny winger. He is now a thirteen stone gladiator with a never-say-die attitude.

At last week's Brazil-Portugal game, his agent Jorge Mendes and Txiki Begiristain, Barcelona's director of football, sat together at the Emirates Stadium and watched Ronaldo outshine Kaka of AC Milan, Fred of Lyon and Elano of Udinese

It was said they are old friends, that three of Mendes's players are at Barca, and they didn't talk about a transfer deal this summer. Yeah, right !

When Ronaldo is hot, he is a one-man army. He can win the ball, sprint into spaces, dribble at high speed, lift crowds, scare opponents, earn free-kicks, and score goals

Could you have Ronaldinho and Cristiano Ronaldo in the same team? Depends who is coaching Barcelona. Frank Rijkaard might go in the summer, and Ronaldinho might go too.

Last Saturday, after starring for Portugal in that 2-0 win over Brazil, Ronaldo didn't play for United against Charlton. He was injured.

And in his absence Wayne Rooney had a blinder. That is no coincidence. Rooney looked very good because Ronaldo wasn't there.

Frankly, those two don't combine that much.

But when the time comes they will. When the Champions League comes, and United  play top teams, Rooney and Ronaldo will both care intensely about winning the European Cup, and they will combine. They will need each other, so they'll pass to each other, play for each other.

At the moment, for them, beating average Premiership teams is too easy. United are coasting. They need to be challenged. And in March and April they will be challenged.

Obviously, United fans would like Ronaldo to stay and help them win five titles, like Cantona.

But every star player is different and circumstances vary so much that it's hard to compare. Ronaldo is at the beginning of his career, whereas Cantona was 26 when he came from Leeds in November 1992, after burning all his bridges in France. Old Trafford was Cantona's stage, but Ronaldo is still young enough to believe that the world is his stage.

When Cantona left United, he finished playing football, retiring in May, 1997, a week short of his 31st birthday. I thought it was a stunt, a tantrum, but it wasn't. He had gone.Today Cristiano Ronaldo is a different animal in a different era. He will never be a Manchester United legend because he won't be there long enough.

We think of a mercenary as someone with specialised skills who parachutes in at night, does a difficult job for big wages, then leaves. Is CR a typical mercenary? Can he pick up his tools and passport move on, and do the same job anywhere? We don't know yet. All we know is that he's a boy who wants to train and play with the sun on his back. A Latin boy from the island of Madeira, he thinks he'd be happier in a Latin country living a Latin lifestyle.

In time, Ronaldo might find the authority that Anelka demonstrates for Bolton now. When Anelka was at Arsenal he was a bit like Ronaldo is now, a flashy player, a meteorite who lights up the night sky, but he has matured, so he plays with composure and focus, as if determined to make the most of the seasons he has left. He was a boy-footballer but now he's a man and he's motivated to show Arsene Wenger he is still a world class striker, despite having made the mistake of leaving Arsenal too soon.

Nigel Winterburn, who played with Anelka, said on TV this morning that he can give Arsenal problems at the Reebok tonight.[/b]

I will not be bothered to explain who myles P is, i remember explaining to Jackal who he was when we were having an arguement/discussion on Henry vs Ruud. But i will adress another issue below which i forgot.

I can't remeber who mentioned Alan Hansen and BBC. Its things like this that makes me feel Euphoria and True Mic to an extent when they talk about us not knowing much about stuff but only follow the trend. Alan Hansen is an ex Pool player and i dare anyone to go through any BLOG!! I repeat ANY BLOG by any team, Including Man United where anyone feels or takea Hansen seriously!! I asked you guys if BBC writers do not support teams, The bloody BBC Sports Editor is a Bloody spud and the issue was brought up twice when the BBC did features firstly on Arsenal and the Belgium club deal and also when The Bung issue involving Fat Sam and Harry redknap blew up, The Guy who is had to come out in his own BBC blog to address the issue of bias as a Tottenham Surpporter and how we should know that his team leave their Club support at the door of the office (he addressed it because it was an issue being discussed in footis forums/blogs)

I put up Guardian Uk links and suddenly i am biased, But we put up Soccernet and feel that ESPN writers are not biased, I mean Derek Rae and tommy smith do not support any team do they . (i remember once in the Henry vs Ruud discussion, some one was quoting Derek rae, but didn't back it up and when i challenged him, he accepted that he watched it at home and so i just had to believe him, then i quoted Martin Tyler of Sky Sports, and Jackal said i was talking heresy, SKY SPORTS IS HERESY!! Only when other folks quote them ) I remember Kitaun challenged him on this, before he backed down and said "maybe Martin Tyler was looking at old statistics!! Old!! yeah sure your right!!

This whole stuff makes me laugh. The ronaldo issue was discussed on MUTV in their phone in discussion programme and they also have a programme called "UNITED in the press" where journalist and ex players come to the studio to discuss issues being discussed in newspapers and footie forums and blogs, the club use this as a means to clarify their stand on any issue. (everyone knows of the Roy Keane's "play the pundit" infamous tape, but officially MUTV blocked it from viewing, if not for newspapers and the blog community how in heavens name would we know the content.) But on NL we only want to say how Brilliant our teams are doing and how we are 5000 points ahead of everyone else, and how many trophies we have won and who the best coach is . We do not discuss issues. WE DO NOT DISCUSS ISSSUES!!

For christ sakes i even go through Akinlabi's blog (not that he says much though ) and he is a bloody Manc , i do so because i enjoy reading others folks opinions and if i see something interesting or controversial i bring it up, Whether it be Arsenal or Man United (i have given up on Chelsea, before Oga Kola slaps me )

So folks, JK and Rikky in particular, point out the Anti United Points for me from this analysis (Do some research while your at it on Myles P and you will see that his site is among the top 5 footie blog sites, despite the fact he writes under an Arsenal mantra, It is also a well know fact that Myles P is always accused of being a Closet United Supporter as he spend 60% of his time praising the bloody mancs an issue he had to address by letting us know that he is not a born Gooner, but only started following Arsenal when George Graham was in charge. The internet is there at your disposal, when you have fre time check out all i just said.)

I will go back and count how many Arsenal mania links i have ever put in the Strictly United thread, then i will come back later before the close of day to address Rikky, seeing that he got involved in the discussion i was having with Bola ni.

Later on i will paste the Guardian Uk, Sky Sports and soccerlens stuff i put (since you guys didn't bother to READ IT) and you will point out the ANTI - UNITED stuff on them. I am only doing this not to prove any point, but to show how low folks can go when they have no point to argue against yours, so they accuse you of being this and that.

GOONER 89

@Loyika

I have never asked you to leave my team's thread.

Dont forget, i choose you as the sport member with the best analysis.

I have praised you in so many threads but was gunned down by your "friend and confidant".

My dissagreement is "Dont join all those people that always say players are not known until joinning Arsenal"

I stand by my statement.

Akola i apologise for my conduct and swearing, and rikky if i swore at you i apologise, but thats where it stops.

Akola we were discussing/arguing Fabregas and Wenger, Even at the height of it, did i ever insult you (i said you loved being fussy over issues, and i still back up my statement, but that one na for me and you later )

But once again instaed of encouraging a lively, healthy forum where issues are being discussed we all want to praise sing our teams to death. yes i admit some issues are over flogged, but bear with me and see the trend here.

1. i mentioned the Ronaldo might be leaving, JK said it was not going to happen, Razorr commented on players loyalty, JK dismissed it. FINE

2. the issue started growing and folks like Scolari made comments (which he later denied) JK blew a vien and was angry (with me or scolari till this day i will never know) Jk and Manu4laif (i think) accused me of being anti united and loved focusing on ronaldo, they even said the press were being anti united, Gee Kola, i thought according to you, "the press are anti chelsea, when did they shift positions

3. The issue hots up some more, now with the Brazil vs Portugal match where Ronaldo's agent was at the Emirates sitting next to an important agent of Barca, and we hear over the grape vine that Barca are getting a bit edgey with Ronaldinho getting itchy feets. I bring this new development up and compare it to the Viera, Cole, Kanu and so on. I try to encourage a discussion on Player loyalty, saying that the new trend is becoming despicable, citing some links and Players like Giggs, Keane, berkgamp, fabregas and carlos Tevez as players that are cool because they show some class and loyalty. But i am accused of being Anti United

4. I update the info with a link from Sky sports quoting Carlos Queiros, then i go ahead and say how i feel carlos is right and hor sir Alex should remind Ronaldo of anelka and how his career is going, ANTI - UNITED Then the arguement changed to 'United will survive if Ronaldo left" Oh!! now he might be leaving!! Though he could never leave Then it turned to "loyika you sef, you are like the grim reaper, bearer of bad tidings. Am i Ronaldo's brother/father Whats my business if Divino plays for Eyimba I tease him because he is a United player yes!! but have i ever teased, lets say Rio, or Scholsey can't remember doing ever doing that.

5, The JK/Bola Ni discussion speaks for it self, and i put up a link which i will paste to address Bola's point (i distinctively remember telling bola that i was tired to do any research and give him a clear link, but that this blog was written by a Manc who looked at the Ruud and Fergie spat) low and Behold, Mr. Rikky steps into the house and accusations are flying everywhere like flies "loyika you always put up Arsenal - mania stuff on Man united threads" WHAT!! I do "Loyika you are Anti - United" Yes i am but not to that extent that i can't discusss issues "Loyika i heard you were Obasanjo's lost love child" Nah he didn't say that, but you get my point. Now if Rikky Ricardo had bothered to take time and go back to see where the whole discussion generated from, probably i would have been spared the whole "loyika is Lucifer" stuff. Jk i will leave for another time.

So akola you can see the whole process. Like i said folks, Lets try and make this forum intelligent and interesting, despite the club loyalties and biases. If i can't come to Nairaland sports forum and discuss/bring up issues, then where will i go I even go out of way to praise the forum on other footie forums (administrator and moderator are you listening!! Oh sorry Kola! You keep saying you are not a Moderator ) I defend everyone despite club allegiencies when i feel the need arises for example in the "can you support a team when you don't live in the England issue!! Are you a true supporter issue!!" And so on. But when the issue is something that is very hard, i am accused of being anti- this and that, Now that my frieds is very Low

Like i said if we want most threads to be Rally points, where only positive things are discussed thats fine with me, i will only say how Sir Alex like his Mince pies with Orange juice and a touch of rum!! Hmm Hmm Good!! (thank God on the Gunners thread, most of us try to encourage stuff being discussed whether positive or negative, as we would have it no other way ).

GOONER 89

Akola,

Leave that Friend and confidant stuff, you all are my pals, even those i (Dis)agree with. Yes i am closer to some than others, but thats not an issue. Kitaun (kola call a spade a spade) knows that we really don't need each other to defend the other as we can speak up for ourselves. When razorr had issues with me, Was it not Wormy that came to clear stuff, Is he now also my "friend and confidant" as well

He didn't Gun you down (i wouldn't know of out side the forum) he just mentioned that the was no need to praise folks, (i rarely do it myself as i feel its not necessary). I spend time slating 4play, cause its fun , but i praised his point of view on the SOS thread. I remember even telling Bola that i don't go out to favour anyone on NL and i don't expect any favours. What was my arguement/discussion with Dr Ayo, was it not over your TTBD on her thread on Henry, did i not also join issues with an esteemed gunner and member of NL Oga V when he took sides with her, before we all took a step back and understood where we all were coming from. (i was even called one of your Cronies )
I also remember my "friend and Confidant" also came to take issues with them on yours and our behalf.

Its not about favours or stuff like that. That is ridiculos to say the least. Its about showing some inteligence. I Take issues with some gunners when i feel they might have steped over the line (and they do the same to me) And encourage non gunners like i did Mustay on the Arsenal vs Chelsea thread. Do i know him, NO!! Is it important to be his special friend!? NO!! I am not close to Jackal but i respect him a lot, I and wormy could be chummy on one thread and be at each other on another. Are we brothers!? NO. so as Oga B would say, Leave Tori for Tortise!!

I Repeat for emphasis; FABREGAS WAS NOT KNOWN!! And Wenger Gave him the stage to be a World class player, Which fabregas has acknowledged and shown loyalty for "

Akola you didn't answer me, Where are these once Youth stars Matthew le tallec and Sinima Pongol now Were they not "known" as well, Who "knows" them now . FABREGAS IS KNOWN BECAUSE OF WENGER!!

We will agree to disagree

GOONER 89

@Loyika

Sinama Pongole just like Fabregas painted U-17 world youth champions Red.

They joined the likes of Kanu,Osondu,Ikpeba, Odartey Lamptey as U-17 Whiz kids.

Please note Fabregas one is before he came to London. Understand?

Sinama Pongole is in La Liga now, doing very very well.

By the way, what happen to Quincy Abeiye, Penant and The fox-in-the-box?

Akola

How is Pongole doing well, with what team, and Which plaudits is he getting Did you forget Le Tallec Where is he, I was talking about Young stars. Was Jeffers a star, from where , he was touted as one, but proved to be shyte, even after leaving Arsenal he still is Shyte.

Is Pennant not in Liverpool , How big can you get Akola argue reasonably. Owusey abeyi What did he do with Holland at the Youth Championship. Akola you act as if Chelsea have no academy, Where are your young stars Are Mikel, Diarra your young stars discovered and brought to the world's attention by Maureen

BABA KOLA

Anyway this took me time, but its good when things are set out straight, so that some folks with hidden agendas don't ruin other people's reps maliciously; These are all the links i have ever put up in the Strictly United Thread since i first posted on the thread.

Guardian Uk- Guardian Newspaper UK one of the respected Newspapers in the World not only the United Kingdom. I have put links from them 21 times

BBC- BBC Sports known as a main source of info on sports issues especially concerning the Prem (although many feel they are biased as i explained earlier, and many coaches like Alladyke and Harry Redknapp don't like talking to them because of accusations leveled during the Bung investigations). I have put up  links 6 times

Sky Sports - The major driving force for the EPL, they have 90 percent stake in the televising of the Prem, so are seen as the First port of call for Prem info (maureen hates them and see them as a propaganda machine that feed a frenzied public. I have put up links 7 times

Skynet, Wikipedia, Lequipe.fr and Independent newspaper United Kingdom have only been sited by me once each ever on the Man united thread.

Man united.com - Main site for the scummies, and Official source of anything related to the Scum. I have put up link 2 times

Arsenal Review Uk - Myles Palmer, well i have said a lot about him, so won't talk again. I have put up links 3 times

I have never and i repeat never put up any links from ARSENAL MANIA or any other arsenal site on the man united thread, from page 1 to 70, the rest of my links have been from Youtube and Getty pictures.

Like i said, Rikky, i have never crossed swords with you before, so i will leave my discussion with you as an abberation. As for JK ; My dear JK do you remember this from you on the first page;

A discussion on rumours that Ronaldo was leaving, please go to the first ever page and remind yourself Then On page 43 you quoted the Sun Newspaper Uk on an issue concerning Jose Maureen. I believe the Sun is a Basis for quality news isn't it. Then you quote Football365 twice, i am sure they are part of the credible sites that Mr. Rikky was talking about.

What more can i say, Wormy summed it up for me. What i will say to Mr Rikky, i don't know you so please for peace do not respond to anything i say again, i will avoid anything you say on any thread, that i feel is the best option here. As for JK, well i am shocked to say the least, but its to be expected .

Like i said to anyone neutral, please go through the links i put up concerning my discussion on Player Loyalty and the one on Ruud and Fergie in answer to Bola ni and anyone please feel free to point out the Anti - United stuff on those links. I don't need links to be Anti - United, Being Anti - United is not difficult, especially from a GOONER

I leave this issue alone to die a natural death

GOONER 89

Loyika, honestly are you a journalist? Your posts are simply too long.
I admit that the comments you put in them are intelligent ones, but you need to understand that people get bored when a post is this long.

It would be nicer and less boring if you made your posts shorter.

Thanks and God Bless.

abi o!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Razoor and hugoboi sorry ,

Yeah not a journalist, but a writer, or should i say aspiring Novelist, Look out for me soon at an award near you. Pray for me that i get a good book deal and i will share my millions with you

GOONER 89

Very good. I wish you success in your writing. Please just keep ur comments simple and as short as possible.
Thanks again.

Ah ha Girl, Na wa oh.

Because i apologised does that mean you have to repeat it

WOMEN

GOONER 89

P.S. Was that short and interesting enough for you Or are you now the appointed Moderator

Yes it was. Thank you darling.

And no, I'm not the moderator, just an onlooker.

@loyika
hnmm, really really long. but i commend u for saying ur mind.

sorry for callin u anti- united
sorry for gettin angry at scolari on the ronaldo issue
sorry for shockin you _{(dunno wat u meant by that)}

on the ronaldo issue though. . .i av been as objective as possible. .
remember my first discussion with razorr bout it, i said, everything lies solely in ronaldo's hands. . he decides if he wants to leave or not, but till then he remains a united player,. . u can go check if u want to.

like u said, let this issue die.

No probs love

Thats for Razorr not Jk oh!?

Jk its long dead mate

GOONER 89

Wow this short post stuff is so cool

@Loyika

I got your point now.

I guess you were saying, Winning award at World Youth Championship does not guarantee a Renown football star. I agree with you 100%.

But a lot come to play in this beautiful game.

Coach or no Coach, Luck play an important role in football at times.

My brother turned down University addmission in 1986 to concentrate with football in a bid to play for Nigeria in Canada '87. Did he eventually make the team? NO. His two close friends, who are not as good as he was eventually play for Naija.

Who can say Adeolu Adekola will be history like that? Nigeria has never, i repeat never produce a Striker like him.

Sinama Pongolle plays in La Liga for Recreativo Huelva. Tallec is very unlucky, he is in France.

## Chelsea do have academy## Where on earth do we get John Terry?

Lita of Reading is a product of Chelsea academy.

Plese note: Only Asley Cole and two other players are products of your academy who hit limelight.

no arguments on that Akola, everyone knows the scum's academy has produced the most players to come to limelight. no arguments there

Scummies versus reading, whats your take?

@AKOLA


Why do you like inciting people aginst each other??


Doesn't it just make you hialriously vidictive


This is becoming really annoying though you keep trying to make it seem like you are one peacemaker

Ok Loyika, If there is something i know, its the fact that you and i have never crossed paths before,infact have never gone berserk like this on any sports thread before _{(I be gentleman).} Ofcos your footie analysis are top-notch even though they could be verbose,wordy and ambiguos!.Look, i may not be a gonner, but your posts and a few others are one of those i specifically dig up to read when am off for a long time, Why? because of your analysis  of the beautiful game.

We may have exchanged words in the course of this thread, but look its all because of club affinty and loyalty.We all at one point or the other show solidarities to our teams, maybe thats the way i intended showing mine, ofcos  you've always shown yours too.But its all good and ok, aiight? 

This is strictly UNITED Please.

Well i really feel if Ronaldo leaves he wont be as good as he is again.I will be sad to see him leave but if he does go we will find another replacement.I love my Manchester United and i know we wont let him go.

Just look @ our squad.Hmm what of Heinze sef?I really think he needs games.What y'all think?

Nobody who has left Utd since Fergie came in has achieved greater success in their new club than at Utd

Yes and i think that is due to the fact that he knows how best to play them and turn them into world players.Like Quieroz said if he leaves he wouldnt find things rosy @ Real cos Carlos was in Real and he definitely knows whats sup.See what Real did to Diarra?The guy wan go sef.

But i sincercely believe RUUD is regretting leaving us.What do y'all think?

Ruud has past his prime,that is why Fergie cooled towards him

Some of the rumours sorrounding Ronaldo maye be due to ongoing contract negotiations with Utd.The more the agent feeds the rumor that he has an offer from Barca,the more pressure is put on Utd to sweeten the pay rise.

If the transfer goes through,we can still easily replace him with the huge transfer fee we are getting in exchange

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Ruud has past his prime,that is why Fergie cooled towards him

Some of the rumours sorrounding Ronaldo maye be due to ongoing contract negotiations with Utd.The more the agent feeds the rumor that he has an offer from Barca,the more pressure is put on Utd to sweeten the pay rise.

If the transfer goes through,we can still easily replace him with the huge transfer fee we are getting in exchange

You are right though SAF said he cant be sold.They too like Manchester United Players.We are just too good you know.

We are just too good you know.
you could say that a million times and i will jump and shout yes all along.

this is the comback

Jk, Bola and

Hope you all are reading BBC, Loyika didn't write this story on RUUD oH!!, Bola Ni guess that clears the whole Ruudy issue between you and i (its cool you can't see this now, or else i would surely get my knock )

Won't put up the link (and be accused of being Anti-Labour), you all know the BBC website, Do the work yourselves.

Abegi!!

Manscum vs Reading

Should be a tight game, but scummies are playing at Home, so that will go in their favor, But on the other hand the Royals have nothing to lose, and all to gain, besides Fergie has a game with a certain Lille Midweek and he has a score to settle with Ozaze .

Should be an interesting game, if the scummies don't kill it in the first half, Reading will gain confidence and push up in the second.

GOONER 89

manscum to lose today

and dont worry ur submarine will sonn leave

Man U vs Reading - we gonna do well

Muki - get out of here and go and talk to your fellow gunners on how to get off our backs.