koboko69:

He doesn't understand that Buhari's matter has been over flogged on this forum, and its really stale and boring now. Not until someone brings something new....

HNosegbe:

I understand you and agree with most of what you said. I was only considering the reality on the ground, which is that APC has not distinguished itself as a party such that it would consider MERIT above ethnic/religious considerations, as you have urged them to. I'd prefer that the party elect a candidate based on programmes, policies and track record - but I'm pessimistic about that happening.

PS: Buhari didn't STAGE the 1983 coup.

Demdem:

What do u mean by generational shift? We are asking for the most competent thart have the potential and clout to bring in the necessary millions of votes to defeat the killer party u are talking about generational shift. What gives u the assurance that that generation u are seeking for will give u the results?
Do u want me to list out the various useless people who ought to be in that generation that have either sold their conscience or disappoint themselves?

barcanista: @ GenBuhari you did not respond to anything. Just posting video link

barcanista: Nowhere in my post did I compare the General and the Incumbent.

Excellent. This is clear.

Please can you tell me in What areas? Which of the Points that you don't agree with?

I only agree with 8 and 3 partially. Fine his alleged statement about abacha is discomforting but that doesn't suggest hypocrisy in fighting corruption like u suggest.

And also, is the General the ONLY potential candidate that is available in APC?

No he isn't but he is among the very few that can bring in the desired numbers.

Don't you think it is the role of the opposition to pass thru democratic process and present a Candidate with proven antecedent in order to defeat an incumbent and effect the change that we all seek?

Nothing suggest that Buhari if indeed wants to contest won't go through such process in apc.
Again, Buhari's antecedent by Nigerian standard is very much ok however it isn't required to defeat an incumbent in Nigeria. U of all people should definitely know this.

Djicemob: Op u r very right.Nigerians have seen buhari for who he really is.Buhari's candidacy would never sail not to talk of sailing well.I don't care about PDP or APC,all i want is change in the form of a better leader. Thanks.

ShehuAba: barcanista in as much as I strongly disagree with most of your points as they are not factual enough, I want you to realize that the battle to rescue Nigeria from the hands of PDP is never an easy task and shouldn't be taken with levity.
Your assertion that buhari is a fanatic needs to be substantiated unless you also believe that APC is a Boko haram party.
That said, APC is in a fix, and the best they could do now is to present a formidable candidate which is also very popular, especially in their stronghold which happens to be in the north. They should also look for a very good candidate that will divide the PDP votes in the south east and south south because GEJ can never win the south west come 2015(mark my words).

Obiagelli: barcanista, i have got a lengthy article written by an esteem nairalander the i can send you via PM if you are interested, on the condition that you won't share it publicly till you get authorisation.

barcanista: Sir I am not doing comparison here. Change is not about defeating a corrupt Incumbent and replace him with a Tyrant. We have to look at his antecedents here. Beside, he isn't the only one in APC and APC wasn't form to fulfill his political ambition.

barcanista: You have my word. I won't share it unauthorized

Demdem:

Deep down inside u, do u think if he becomes president he will administer the country in its current democratic setting the same way he did years ago under military regime?
When u talk of antecedents kindly refer to elders who understood the politics as at that time. Balance it with his impeccable achievement when he was in ptf whose legacies still speak for good till date.

Obiagelli:

Wrong, Buhari didn't stage the coup, he was HOS for 2yrs, his back 2 democracy plans can't be assessed properly.


2. Buhari does NOT support Press Freedom. He
Instituted DECREE 4 that bar journalists from
"unfavorable" reporting. He even went as far as
Jailing Journalists.

military decree brother, military.


Question 3?

i can't tell, besides we only hear of loot returned but nothing substantial to show.
Btw buhari can't be right on everything


Question 4?

Shekarau has done it again and he is now minister under the same gej he used to critize.


Question 5?

John mc Cain is 77yrs old so many other examples out there

Question 6?

A certain tinubu was there to lay a decent foundation for fashola. Nigeria is a big mess no time for learners, ask gej.


Question 7?

Same people that were whipped under military law would have gotten harder punishment from a civil court. indiscipline is a recipes for disaster. That is the story of Nigeria today, crimes we will not commit outside nigeria, we do them freely here.

Question 8

Corruption and bad economic policy is the norm and that is what buhari will change.

Obiagelli: barcanista, i have got a lengthy article written by an esteem nairalander the i can send you via PM if you are interested, on the condition that you won't share it publicly till you get authorisation.

soroptimist: Having taken time to read all the supposed reasons of the OP why he thinks Buhari candidature would not fly at this moment and saw where he said he wasn't born in the early 80s then i came to the conclusion that he really should not be blamed for his infantile vituperations!

Using the Hausa proverbs which says 'Seriki n goma.....zamani n goma'........Oba mewa,Igba mewa........Buhari was Head of State at a time Military coup was a fad in Africa,now that Democracy is the acceptable norm of Governance.....what is bad in someone asking to be given a mandate through popular franchise. JJ Rawlings of Ghana is still being reverred both for his Military zeal and democratic finesse

You claimed Buhari always wants people to step down for him,this is a patent lie as i know for a fact that all the political lilliputs you mentioned (Bafarawa,Shekarau,Modu Sherriff,even Ribadu) who are all Hausas and understand the pre-eminent place Buhari occupies politically always defer to him as they know they cant confront him head on in any popularity contest anywhere under the heavens hence always step down for him

Also these people you mentioned as we have all come to know are always sponsored by the PDP even from the time of OBJ to act as moles in whichever party Buhari finds himself in order to destabilise his quest for party ticket....History have proven us right as they have all gone back to their natural habitat(PDP). Furthermore those of them who contested against Buhari in elections were pulverised electorally( Shekarau etc)

Also whenever you people talk about Buhari's alleged aversion for Freedom of the Press,i always laugh as most of you infants of nowadays dont always use your heads but are always fed with half-truths or outright falsehoods which you all regurgitate on over the years and think that you have been told the truth......The truth about the Decree against misinformation which people have twisted to mean clamp down on the press is that just like now in which the senate is trying to regulate the use of the cyberspace to peddle lies and character assassination,Journalists of those days(including my cousin who worked for the Herald Newspaper was clamped into a cell in Alagbon) were instigated by their publishers (most of whom were politicians whom Buhari regime knew to be very corrupt) to write completely baseless and unsubstantiated allegations against people which when investigated was found to be nothing more than a smear campaign

Just like it is happening now,whereby the GEJ/PDP will say they know the sponsors of Boko Haram yet wont arrest or prosecute them thereby damaging and maligning the reputation of people. Also the DSS flew a kite yesterday that a politician wanted to bribe them with 14million yet no name was mentione d and no arrest was made

What Buhari's Decreee sought to correct then just like its happening now is to place a burden of proof on Journalist and media houses to be responsible and not engage in pepper-soup journalism as it is today whereby if you publish that someone did something,you have to be very sure of your fact unlike now wherein different useless fictitious bloggers and Belly-aching citizen journalist are using the cyberspace for negative purposes

Buhari's statement about Abacha is still a surprise to me too as i do not have the depth and amount of information a Former Head of State would have to make him say that about Abacha. Yet Buhari's own personal integrity remains unimpeachable

Buhari was the only Nigerian politician Chief Gani Fawehinmi publicly endorsed and staked his own reputation on before he died

Just like it was in 1983,so it is and even more debilitating now the cancer and cankerworm of CORRUPTION and INDECISION on the part of Nigeria leaders and politicians....

Buhari still remains stellar,unyielding,uncompromising,untainted and non-align with other fellow Multi-Billionaire Former Head of State

As regards age and youthfulness,we have seen what the so called leaders of nowadays and tomorrow like Ribadu can do! people who are desperate to become just anything to remain relevant and he is now on his way back to the PDP he once villified

Faun: In 2003, APC (APP) fielded Muhammadu Buhari - A Muslim Hausa-Fulani Northerner.

In 2007, APC (AC and ANPP) fielded Atiku Abubakar and Muhammadu Buhari respectively - Both Muslim Hausa-Fulani Northerners.

In 2011, APC (ACN, CPC and ANPP), fielded Nuhu Ribadu, Muhammadu Buhari and Ibrahim Shekerau - ALL Muslim Hausa-Fulani Northerners!

In 2015, APC's plans are to field either Muhammadu Buhari or Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso - BOTH Muslim Hausa-Fulani Northerners.

So much for change. I just dey laugh the people who support these m0rons.
Change my asss!

soroptimist: When people like the OP makes Nigeria electoral permutations based on logic and straight-forward approach,i always laugh in hieroglyphics.....During the last elections,ACN tried to pander to the youths by giving the youthful Ribadu the ticket,did you all vote for him despite his above average personality? Did a reverred,clean Gani Fawehinmi not contest for election in this country? Did you vote for him.....when PDP flew the kite of a certain Goodluck whose leadership antecedents were not known to anyone save for his media-crafted 'I have no shoes' did you not say you were voting for him and not his PDP-a party whose DNA is corruption?

No politician alive today in Nigeria has Buhari's non-money induced popularity,.....This is a man who has an average of 13million votes in the kitty even if elections were to be held tomorrow and because you are Barcanista who doesn't know the intrigues involved in vote stealing,rigging and manipulation of the ruling party says APC should hand his ticket to someone who doesn't yet have a pan-Nigerian appeal and name recognition to please you

PDP strategists and apparachiks are seriously fasting and praying that APC makes the mistake of scheming Buhari out on the ticket and watch as they will decimate anyone that might be presented in his stead

The worst the PDP can do about Buhari can not be more than what they are doing now.....which is nothing more than media trial,crucifixion and propaganda against someone they know will jail most of them including even members of his party if he gets to power

homesteady:

Can I also get it? I'm interested!

koboko69:

You have done well...

barcanista: Personally, I want the PDP out. They have exhausted their time with little or no progress. I want the APC in power but I don't just want another set of Politicians that will make one wish for the return of PDP. I believe there are credible leaders within the APC that are capable of dislodging the PDP. Consider protest votes and those that "don't just want PDP" again, they will most likely throw their weights behind the APC's candidate. The APC as a party need to get it right.

barcanista: Bros, Honestly I don't trust Buhari. I have tried to convince myself to no avail. If what I have read is to go by, Buhari will not take criticism lightly and the Press won't be spared(including social network). He will kick out corruption but His Human Right record is nothing to go by.

Obiagelli:
Barcanista again, i had to mention you again, i hope you can counter this post

soroptimist: When people like the OP makes Nigeria electoral permutations based on logic and straight-forward approach,i always laugh in hieroglyphics.....During the last elections,ACN tried to pander to the youths by giving the youthful Ribadu the ticket,did you all vote for him despite his above average personality? Did a reverred,clean Gani Fawehinmi not contest for election in this country? Did you vote for him.....when PDP flew the kite of a certain Goodluck whose leadership antecedents were not known to anyone save for his media-crafted 'I have no shoes' did you not say you were voting for him and not his PDP-a party whose DNA is corruption?

No politician alive today in Nigeria has Buhari's non-money induced popularity,.....This is a man who has an average of 13million votes in the kitty even if elections were to be held tomorrow and because you are Barcanista who doesn't know the intrigues involved in vote stealing,rigging and manipulation of the ruling party says APC should hand his ticket to someone who doesn't yet have a pan-Nigerian appeal and name recognition to please you

PDP strategists and apparachiks are seriously fasting and praying that APC makes the mistake of scheming Buhari out on the ticket and watch as they will decimate anyone that might be presented in his stead

The worst the PDP can do about Buhari can not be more than what they are doing now.....which is nothing more than media trial,crucifixion and propaganda against someone they know will jail most of them including even members of his party if he gets to power