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Re: How Good Is God? by alexleo(m): 9:38pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
deScifa: Yea i think you and i are somehow in the same school of thought here on how God was before creation. In my own school of thought too i believe that the attributes of God- goodness, wrath, mercy, omnipotent, omniscient, ominpresent, creativity etc has been part of him even before creation. When he said he changes not it means those attributes/nature were not something he developed rather it has been part of him. It is a combination of those attributes that makes him God. Yeah i agree with you on the bold but my argument with him is that he is trying to say that God wasnt a creator but later changed and became a creator. Which means he is not unchangeable as he said(Malachi 3:6). Thats what i am trying to let him know that creativity was part of him. He decided to manifest it when he wanted. It doesnt mean he changed. |
Re: How Good Is God? by deScifa(m): 9:39pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
chrisviral: Perhaps cos we seem to share same thought about certain things....we might be like the holy trinity Macof, deScifa and pagan9ja ![]() |
Re: How Good Is God? by chrisviral(m): 9:46pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
deScifa: Wonderful, I'll kill you three! ![]() |
Re: How Good Is God? by alexleo(m): 9:48pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
deScifa: The bible said we were created in the likeness of God. For me i think it may have to do with his attributes such as we can talk,create, reason, be happy, be sad, love etc like God(but of course with limitations as human) it may not neccessarily be that he is physically like us, with two eyes, two legs and all that. But surely is far more higher and more glorious than us in all. |
Re: How Good Is God? by CharlieMaria(m): 10:06pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
macof:Ezekiel 18:3 I do not wish the death of a sinner says the Lord. Do you just do literal translation of the scriptures? I worship God not god. And you think that by referring to him as 'ur God' he is not your God and creator too? You've got another think coming. Your life is just like a breadth friend. |
Re: How Good Is God? by dorox(m): 10:10pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
finofaya: I've been wondering what is meant by a good God.Your problem is with the way you appear to define good and evil, which I think is a bit different in context from the bible usage. In bible's account of creation in Genesis chapter 1, the word good appeared seven times, and each time the contextual meaning was of something fit for purpose. The light was not too hot; the day and night interval was not too long; and the distribution was just good. Gen1:3 The land mass could have been made bigger or smaller, but God saw to it that it was just good. Gen1:9 Next, God saw to it that the plants , the sun and moon, animals and last of all man that he created was good, or fit for purpose. Good as used in the bible is not relative to something else, it means to be fit for purpose, and God's goodness is absolute, His will is total and His purpose is certain. Any will in opposition to His will is evil and any purpose not in line with his is not good because it is God that sets the standard of good and evil within which we are to work. So God and indeed us to some extent can tell if an action or creation is fit for the purpose it was made for without having to be evil at the same time. 1 Like |
Re: How Good Is God? by mecussey(m): 10:18pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
chrisviral: I think your number 2 points said it all. I think this is it..Atheists and scientists will understand this statement. |
Re: How Good Is God? by dockosipressure: 12:22am On Aug 25, 2014 |
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Re: How Good Is God? by Image123(m): 12:31am On Aug 25, 2014 |
1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. |
Re: How Good Is God? by macof(m): 12:35am On Aug 25, 2014 |
chrisviral: Oh! wat a shame ![]() Typo. I meant "Soul" "when a man sees the truth, and knows it is the truth but rejects it for his indoctrinated comfort then he is killing his soul" |
Re: How Good Is God? by Angeldemivida: 2:42am On Aug 25, 2014 |
Real Good! Yeah! It does irritate me when people compares him to other things especially in songs, like such songs as "All other Gods, they are the works of men, you are the only true God----" etc. We shouldn't go categorizing and comparing him to other gods. He stands on his own, superior. The almighty. My Jehovah Jireh. |
Re: How Good Is God? by alexleo(m): 3:24am On Aug 25, 2014 |
Diamondpen: @op, A good analogy here too. |
Re: How Good Is God? by alexleo(m): 4:40am On Aug 25, 2014 |
chrisviral: Yeah you are right. God doesn't take delight in seeing humans go to hell after the redemption plan he made and his several warnings concerning the consequences of choosing sin. . Matthew 25:41 says- 1 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Hell is a manifestation of God's wrath. God's wrath was made manifest by lucifers sin and he was cursed. By that curse hell was prepared for lucifer(devil) and his angels(those angels that joined him to rebel against God). Human beings who are going to hell are going there because they chose to follow the path of the devil. The whole thing is like two roads as Jesus described it. One is the broad way that leads to destruction and the other is the narrow way that leads to eternal life. The road you follow is where you ll end up except you change over before you get to the end of it. And of course God cannot be happy that people are still choosing the road to destruction after several warnings about the consequences of their choice. He wouldn't be happy that they neglated the escape route he made. He wouldn't be happy that after all the efforts he made to save people from this unchangeable nature of him(wrath) people are still choosing the way that leads to it. |
Re: How Good Is God? by alexleo(m): 5:03am On Aug 25, 2014 |
Revelation 13:8 says - 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. The above scripture shows that God knew that the man he created with freewill can make wrong choice hence the redemption plan he made right from the foundation of the world. In the light of the above, we can't say that man's fall took God by unawares. So when the scripture said that God repented that he made man it can't really be looked at from the point of someone who was taken unawares and is regreting. And as I said before, God cannot be happy that people are choosing wrongly. |
Re: How Good Is God? by Nobody: 6:36am On Aug 25, 2014 |
Nice...I have learned certain things from chrisviral and alexleo, but couldn't understand where macof stands. All the same. WHAT A THREAD. 2 Likes |
Re: How Good Is God? by Nobody: 2:09pm On Aug 25, 2014 |
Gombs: Yeah, I have an idea Is this what they teach people in Nigeria? No. Freaking. Wonder. Science has no hope here. 1 Like |
Re: How Good Is God? by alexleo(m): 2:35pm On Aug 25, 2014 |
LandLord1: Nice...I have learned certain things from chrisviral and alexleo, but couldn't understand where macof stands. All the same. WHAT A THREAD. Thanks dear. |
Re: How Good Is God? by macof(m): 9:30pm On Aug 25, 2014 |
LandLord1: Nice...I have learned certain things from chrisviral and alexleo, but couldn't understand where macof stands. All the same. WHAT A THREAD. When you don't understand the nature of the universe, how can you understand God?? I make my observations and theories from my search and experiences 1 Like |
Re: How Good Is God? by calaharry: 1:41am On Aug 26, 2014 |
finofaya: I've been wondering what is meant by a good God.God is good because He gives you air to breath even if you refused to worship Him in spirit and in truth. He does not discriminate despite many unbelievers defiance to acknowledge God. He still allows you to give birth whether you are Christian or follow Islam or Hindu etc. But only the wise finds God in seeking Him. |
Re: How Good Is God? by onyekap: 11:08am On Aug 26, 2014 |
God is truely everything!!!!! |
Re: How Good Is God? by finofaya: 11:40am On Aug 26, 2014 |
doubleDx: God is any one of the two? |
Re: How Good Is God? by finofaya: 11:46am On Aug 26, 2014 |
chronique: You can never know how much or how good God is,until you stop/are almost not breathing. Only the dead can answer that properly cos if given a chance,I'm pretty sure they'd choose to live again,despite all the troubles and chaos in the world. God is too good for you to know how good He is. Which dead people? The ones going to heaven or the ones going to hell? See, I don't mean any blasphemy, but God is not too good for us to know how good he is. Otherwise, how do you know that he is too good? |
Re: How Good Is God? by finofaya: 11:51am On Aug 26, 2014 |
Billyonaire: In absolute truism, there is no good and evil. Everything works towards singularity. Think about earthquake, for victims of the cataclysmic natural tectonic re-alignment it is evil, but within the cosmic creativity, its core goal is the alignment of the san adreas fault, a sequence that can only make the planet better. Yeah. I'm not sure that there is actually anything good or evil. |
Re: How Good Is God? by finofaya: 11:54am On Aug 26, 2014 |
Lolosky: He's ''WHO WAS , WHO IS, AND WHO IS TO COME''. So He has bn good, nd He is good and will continue to be good. Get used to that mann. That's a comforting thought, until you start to wonder just how much control God has over evil |
Re: How Good Is God? by finofaya: 12:04pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
patostation: Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry you off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ (Colossians 2:8. Compare Act 17:18, 1Cor 2:13). Everything that is not according to Christ is an elementary thing of this world? Is that not too narrow? You can't function properly in this world using only the bible as a guide to your behaviour. |
Re: How Good Is God? by finofaya: 12:07pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
kadas01: The Truth is very simple but man has chose to complicate It! That he may be. My issue is where the evil that made him good was. |
Re: How Good Is God? by akoka: 12:12pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
exactly u neva can fathom God wt ur Head.so,u'r wrong |
Re: How Good Is God? by finofaya: 12:21pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
colly227: Go watch "Mega mind" I think that's the perfect answer to your question. What I'm saying is that there is no good without evil. If God was good before adam and eve, then there must have been something that we compare him to in order to conclude that he was always good. |
Re: How Good Is God? by finofaya: 12:45pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
shigoslim: @OP God created both Good and Evil. Look at it this way; if God is omnibenevolent, he could not have created his omnibenevolence any more than he could have created his omnipotence. So if God is omnibenevolent, the good was not created by him, and neither was the evil by which we consider him good. |
Re: How Good Is God? by dorox(m): 12:47pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
finofaya:The premise of your argument is wrong, something can be seen as good without comparing it to evil. Without evil you can still tell at what point the ladder you are making will be good enought to scale an obstacle. |
Re: How Good Is God? by finofaya: 12:50pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
tjones007: in the beginning when man was created. I don't think they could distinguish between good and evil. Even when they where naked they felt no shame. And God instructed them not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. After the fall of man. This is why when man is born we could distinguish what is good from what is bad. I'm not questioning God. However, how do you know that he is what he says he is? Remember that there have been more than a thousand Gods in the history of man. Whose word are we to take? |
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