ArtanK:

It's Somali, not Somalian. Please get it right. I fvcken hate being called Somalian.

Somali atheists are so in-your-face like they will change a casual conversation about the weather to a full blown debate about God and religion.

There are somali atheist? I thought most somalis were die hard Muslims

Fulaman198:

I am all for the unity of all Africans, but Africans need to really educate themselves and stop allowing themselves to get brainwashed by Westerners. We are educated right? Remember that song I linked by that Nigerian Hausa musician 'Africa'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe1mEqM_gdU

you can only unite with people who wants to
I am also for an African unity, but a strategic one , in fact I'm for bigger and more viable countries to swallow smaller, but sometimes I do believe it will take too much time and the cards must b redistributed and all ethnic group should have their own country then we can create nations based on our own princples, most of our countries are western creations

CAMNEWTON4PRES: you can only unite with people who wants to
I am also for an African unity, but a strategic one , in fact I'm for bigger and more viable countries to swallow smaller, but sometimes I do believe it will take too much time and the cards must b redistributed and all ethnic group should have their own country then we can create nations based on our own princples, most of our countries are western creations

African unity as in uniting countries would be the worst thing to happen to the continent. Africans have proven time and time that they can't live cohesive with each other.

JiggamanGh:


African unity as in uniting countries would be the worst thing to happen to the continent. Africans have proven time and time that they can't live cohesive with each other.

Not all countries in one country lol

Ghana can take Togo
Nigeria Benin etc
And then we can create regional entity/republic east southe central west minus the north
Guinea equatorial is constituted of 90% of my own ethnic group yet I need a visas to go there, same with Gabon how stupid

Btw that's a lie when did we try? After there are African immigrants in different African countries , Africans are probablynthe less xenophobic people on earth

JiggamanGh:

There are somali atheist? I thought most somalis were die hard Muslims

I wouldn't say die hard Muslims but we are predominantly Muslim.
One of my closest friends was an atheist, he reverted back to Islam after 3 years.

ArtanK:

I wouldn't say die hard Muslims but we are predominantly Muslim.
One of my closest friends was an atheist, he reverted back to Islam after 3 years.

peers pressure?

CAMNEWTON4PRES:

Not all countries in one country lol

Ghana can take Togo
Nigeria Benin etc
And then we can create regional entity/republic east southe central west minus the north
Guinea equatorial is constituted of 90% of my own ethnic group yet I need a visas to go there, same with Gabon how stupid

Btw that's a lie when did we try? After there are African immigrants in different African countries , Africans are probablynthe less xenophobic people on earth

Ashanti's of Ghana will not as ewe will now the same pop as Ashanti's. Igbos and other tribes will not allow Benin because it can shift power to Yorubas.

All Africa needs is more trade among themselves and learn how to turn the abundant raw materials that we have to finished goods instead of selling raw materials for cheap only for it to come backs as finished goods for ten times the amount.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: peers pressure?

No, if anything he would challenge me to a debate all the time when he first converted. One time after we had a heated discussion, I told him to respect my religion and after that we barely spoke about it. He chose to revert back on his own.

ArtanK:

I wouldn't say die hard Muslims but we are predominantly Muslim.
One of my closest friends was an atheist, he reverted back to Islam after 3 years.

Oh okay, Africans needs to be less religious and stop saying "God will provide" and start providing for themselves.

JiggamanGh:


Ashanti's of Ghana will not as ewe will now the same pop as Ashanti's. Igbos and other tribes will not allow Benin because it can shift power to Yorubas.

All Africa needs is more trade among themselves and learn how to turn the abundant raw materials that we have to finished goods instead of selling raw materials for cheap only for it to come backs as finished goods for ten times the amount.

That's a simplistic way a divided house can not do what you just said, do u know where the weapons to overthrow gbagbo came from?

How will you trade when smaller political entity are totally being dominated by western imperialists ? Take Gabon as an example they are blocking any trade, free movement agreements under the pretext that we are going to invade them, who puts such ideas in their heads? Your guess is good as mine ...Gabon and equatorial guinea should join Cameroon, both congos should unite

That's the way to go

Look at sengal and Gambia isn't that madness? Why should gambia even exist as a country ?

ArtanK:

No, if anything he would challenge me to a debate all the time when he first converted. One time after we had a heated discussion, I told him to respect my religion and after that we barely spoke about it. He chose to revert back on his own.

so you converted him back lol

JiggamanGh:

Oh okay, Africans needs to be less religious and stop saying "God will provide" and start providing for themselves.

God will provide but God also gave us abled bodies and the capability to provide for our families.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: so you converted him back lol

No, we stopped talking about religion then after a few years he chose to come back to Islam.

Fulaman198:

I agree that he is intelligent and he has displayed some impressive cunning abilities by using divide and conquer tactics here on NL (have you noticed the influx on how many people use the term "Bantu" now because of him? He has succeeded at brainwashing some people on this forum and making them feel inferior that they now copy the way he acts/behaves.

In any case, I'm sure he's on at least 20 forums becoming the King of Trolling on each one. I mean how can someone say they are God.....maybe he really believes that he is somehow God.

I am only a God for those who follow me to the valley of death

adamskutty: axum my noble boy, when are we gonna go hunting together?

Its illegal to hunt Bantus in Africa now. Come to Somalia where it is still legal.

ArtanK:

I actually believe Axum is a quite intelligent guy, he acts that way so people won't sus out his real identity that gives him a free pass to talk out of his ars.e and The guy must be bored as fvck, he's on Stormfront, NL, Somalinet and God knows how many other forums he's a member of

Wallahi am not on any other forums, only this one.

There are Many Somalis who think the way I do, actually the vast majority to some degree share my views.

Ofcourse I am intelligent, because I am Somaaaaaaliiiiii

CAMNEWTON4PRES:


You are right ,you really gave the whole picture, I was just being in denial , anyway that's why I decided to fight back , I can let my race being derided ...

The Bantus aren't really a race, because to call them a race, would mean to acknowledge that they are some what human, which I see no scientific basis for since many of them eat monkey meat

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
Somalian atheist? Plenty , this needs to b seen

Too bad even godless Somalis still see Bantus as animals unworthy of being touched. Nigggggga was happy cause he thought somali atheist woman might get with him.



The fufu nation will die, just like all other gorillas

I will have your time tomorrow , good night

Fulaman198:

What are you talking about? You don't make sense a lot of you people should be ashamed to call yourselves Africans. It makes me wonder where you all got educated. Senegambian peoples like the Fulani, Wolof and Serer are taller. There are no Arab or North African features so let's cut out the nonsense.

Listen, its so plain to see in many of the Fulani photos that the features of more than one race is present. Its far more than just being taller. You may not like it but its clear from even looking at West Indian people , for example, of African origin whose ancestors had mixed with Indians or whites during the period of slavery. So many of them with a change of clothes and/or hairstyle could very easily pass for Fulani....

Howmanage:

Listen, its so plain to see in many of the Fulani photos that the features of more than one race is present. Its far more than just being taller. You may not like it but its clear from even looking at West Indian people , for example, of African origin whose ancestors had mixed with Indians or whites during the period of slavery. So many of them with a change of clothes and/or hairstyle could very easily pass for Fulani....

That's why I have such a low opinion of some Africans. They let themselves get brainwashed easily. So you think all Africans should look the same right? You think that a stereotypical 'full-blooded' African is one with super dark skin, a super wide nose, short muscular stature, etc? Sorry but you are completely wrong.

Africa is an extremely diverse continent. Whilst we Fulani are still black, we developed based on our climate which is a semi-arid to arid climate. Our diets are different too. Don't be the African that is brainwashed man.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: Look at sengal and Gambia isn't that madness? Why should gambia even exist as a country ?

Why not?

Fulaman198:

Why not?

It's too small
It's in the middle of another country
The people are the same and speak the same language , Gambia should merge with senegal

CAMNEWTON4PRES:

It's too small
It's in the middle of another country
The people are the same and speak the same language , Gambia should merge with senegal

Gambia should merge with Senegal and be called Senegambia I agree

Fulaman198:

That's why I have such a low opinion of some Africans. They let themselves get brainwashed easily. So you think all Africans should look the same right? You think that a stereotypical 'full-blooded' African is one with super dark skin, a super wide nose, short muscular stature, etc? Sorry but you are completely wrong.

Africa is an extremely diverse continent. Whilst we Fulani are still black, we developed based on our climate which is a semi-arid to arid climate. Our diets are different too. Don't be the African that is brainwashed man.

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Fulanis are African, Libyans are African, Khoisan are African, Yoruba are African etc However, we are all different and how each group came to be is different. A certain percentage of the African population can be described as you have in bolded, obviously with more positive and appreciative language than you have used for example -Velvety, dark chocolate sometimes midnight black skin, which can sometimes occur in individuals as bright yellow skin;,crisp and tightlycoiled hair, aesthetically rounded and generous noses with subtle bridges, well defined bodies of efficient proportions, beautiful, soft "pillow" lips, proud foreheads and most of all a spiritual and mostly accepting and naive soul.

This describes a huge and substantial population of Africans, and this is the race that has one way or other ( Jihadism, migration, etc)encountered other races and brought about many other types of people who do not on average bear this description eg Fulani

axum:


Wallahi am not on any other forums, only this one.

There are Many Somalis who think the way I do, actually the vast majority to some degree share my views.

Ofcourse I am intelligent, because I am Somaaaaaaliiiiii

I take that back, you're a dumb mofo and you're trying too hard.

Howmanage: .

Fulanis are African, Libyans are African, Khoisan are African, Yoruba are African etc However, we are all different and how each group came to be is different. A certain percentage of the African population can be described as you have in bolded, obviously with more positive and appreciative language than you have used for example -Velvety, dark chocolate sometimes midnight black skin, which can sometimes occur in individuals as bright yellow skin;,crisp and tightlycoiled hair, aesthetically rounded and generous noses with subtle bridges, well defined bodies of efficient proportions, beautiful, soft "pillow" lips, proud foreheads and most of all a spiritual and mostly accepting and naive soul.

This describes a huge and substantial population of Africans, and this is the race that has one way or other ( Jihadism, migration, etc)encountered other races and brought about many other types of people who do not on average bear this description eg Fulani

It's a fact that Fulanis are mixed with Berbers, anyway people can believe what they want, you won't convince fulaman of that fact.

here's scientific data confirming that fact

The Fulani have an old "Berber" (?) element



After the second Henn et al. paper I did download the data. Unfortunately there are only 62,000 SNPs intersecting with the HGDP. This is somewhat marginal for fine-grained ADMIXTURE analyses, though sufficient for PCA from what I recall. That being said, the intersection with the HapMap data sets runs from ~190,000 SNPs, to the full 250,000 SNPs (this makes sense since the Henn et al. #2 data set has some HapMap populations in it). So I’ve been experimenting a fair amount in the past few days, and I thought I would post on one issue which was clear in the original paper, but which I have replicated.



The Fulani (Fula) people of the western Sahel seem to have a relatively old West Eurasian which has distinct affinities with the “Maghrebi” element discerned by Henn et al.

In fact, the non-Sub-Saharan African ancestry of the Fulani is almost exclusively of this origin.

To me this serves as a peculiar mirror of what you see in the Cushitic and Ethiopian Semitic peoples of the far east of the Sahel-Sudan latitudinal region. These populations also seem to be compounds of a Sub-Saharan Africa element with a West Eurasian one, but in their case the admixture is almost exclusively from a Southwest Eurasian (Arabian) component. Geographically these two symmetric admixture events make sense, but the exclusivity is still a bit surprising.

Additionally, in both the case of the Fulani and the Ethiopian and Cushitic groups the admixture is widely distributed and even enough to imply that they are old events. I also assumed this because in some admixture runs a “pure” Fulani cluster partitions out, which is not unexpected for stabilized hybrid populations ( all human populations are stabilized hybrids if you go back far enough).

To give you a flavor of what I’m talking about here are some screen shots of a run which is currently going. It has 180,000 markers. I removed Tunisians and many African populations from the Henn et al. data set, and included in the Utah whites from the HapMap. The individual plots show the ancestral proportions for each Fulani in the data set:





So what can we see here? First, let’s reiterate something: as in the case of the populations of the Horn of Africa the West Eurasian element in the Fulani is difficult to find in “pure” form in the populations from which it putatively derived. What does that imply? I think that that means that the Fulani have an origin in relatively recent historic time, on the order of 2,000, not 10,000, years. That is because I am skeptical that the Fulani would be able to maintain genetic distinctiveness for ~10,000 years from other populations around them. In contrast, the last 2,000 years have seen the rise of various cultural institutions, from trans-Saharan nomadism to Islam, which might slow down admixture sufficiently to maintain the differences between the Fulani and their neighbors. It also implies to me that the non-Maghrebi "Near Eastern” element which Henn et al. discerned is relatively a recent phenomenon in northwest Africa, else the Fulani should also carry it. How recent? Probably from Classical Antiquity down to the Muslim period. Observe that many North Africa groups have a red “European” element. This may be from Near Eastern populations, but I suspect that the fraction here is just too high to be explained by that. Also, you can see above that some groups in Morocco have nearly as much of this as Egyptians, but far less of the more genuine Near Eastern components.

In all likelihood the West Eurasian component came to the Fulani via the Tuareg or a related or antecedent population. So if you typed the Tuareg you would probably get a better sense of the “pure” “Maghrebi” genetic profile. These genetic results also can serve as fodder to understanding the ethnogenesis of the landscape of the Sahel. In the map above it is interesting to observe that the Hausa speak an Afro-Asiatic language, even though their West Eurasian component is far lower than the Fulani, who speak Niger-Congo dialects. What gives? I suspect that the difference here is that the Hausa are a case of elite emulation of a cultural complex which was much more integrated and elaborated by the time it arrived on the West African scene. This explains how there could be language shift, while in the case of the Fulani there was none. Another hypothesis is that Afro-Asiatic derives from Sub-Saharan Africa itself, and the Chadic (Hausa) group are basal to the phylogeny. I’ll let readers explore the implications of that. A final aspect, I put the quotations in the title because perhaps the Berber dialects spread via elite emulation, and the original Maghrebi ancestors of the Fulani spoke a different language, which has been lost?

As they say, for every answer there bloom a thousand questions….

Fulaman198.

You can't compare European to Africans, Dutch and Italians have the same cranial and facial bones structure, while African don't have the same cranial and facial bones structure.

And yes, Dutch and Italians look the same

[img]http://aryanity.files./2012/05/chapter1-figure2.jpg?w=450&h=244[/img]


Moderators.

please ban Axum permanently, he is too dumb.

CAMNEWTON4PRES:

Not all countries in one country lol

Ghana can take Togo
Nigeria Benin etc
And then we can create regional entity/republic east southe central west minus the north
Guinea equatorial is constituted of 90% of my own ethnic group yet I need a visas to go there, same with Gabon how stupid

Btw that's a lie when did we try? After there are African immigrants in different African countries , Africans are probablynthe less xenophobic people on earth

Nigeria has already acquired Jiggman's nation though not officially.

KenyanLady: Fulaman198.

You can't compare European to Africans, Dutch and Italians have the same cranial and facial bones structure, while African don't have the same cranial and facial bones structure.

And yes, Dutch and Italians look the same

[img]http://aryanity.files./2012/05/chapter1-figure2.jpg?w=450&h=244[/img]


Moderators.

please ban Axum permanently, he is too dumb.

You've always endorsed Axum's silly opinions, so why ask for him to be banned now?

That dolt speaks without scratching his head. He said Ethiopians generally aren't blacks.

iconize:

Nigeria has already acquired Jiggman's nation though not officially.

when did nigeria acquire ghana? And from who ?