KenyanLady: Fulaman198.

You can't compare European to Africans, Dutch and Italians have the same cranial and facial bones structure, while African don't have the same cranial and facial bones structure.

And yes, Dutch and Italians look the same

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Moderators.

please ban Axum permanently, he is too dumb.

You are dumber than Axum is hypocrite. You have the biggest inferiority complex I have ever seen. I advise you go and get checked in a psychiatric ward.

mrham03: when did nigeria acquire ghana? And from who ?

What do you call a nation that depends on foreign donors for 50% of its annual budget?

Howmanage: .

Fulanis are African, Libyans are African, Khoisan are African, Yoruba are African etc However, we are all different and how each group came to be is different. A certain percentage of the African population can be described as you have in bolded, obviously with more positive and appreciative language than you have used for example -Velvety, dark chocolate sometimes midnight black skin, which can sometimes occur in individuals as bright yellow skin;,crisp and tightlycoiled hair, aesthetically rounded and generous noses with subtle bridges, well defined bodies of efficient proportions, beautiful, soft "pillow" lips, proud foreheads and most of all a spiritual and mostly accepting and naive soul.

This describes a huge and substantial population of Africans, and this is the race that has one way or other ( Jihadism, migration, etc)encountered other races and brought about many other types of people who do not on average bear this description eg Fulani

I disagree with you 100%. You are referring as aforementioned to certain black African groups. What about groups like the Serer, Wolof, Dinka, Nuer, Masaai, Songhai/Zarma/Dendi, the Kanuri, etc etc. What I'm telling you is simple. Black African groups that inhabit the region known as the Sahel or the Southern Sahara have never been what most brainwashed people consider the 'stereotypical' African. White racists are the ones who propagated that image when they came into contact with south Africans. However, I find it funny that whenever an unmixed group of native black African does not have those features a white person tries to claim they are mixed (not the non-racist ones). What's even funnier is when some brainwashed Africans jump on that bandwagon.

ArtanK:

You do realise his whole purpose on NL is to mess with people and to make people angry. He knows that among this religious bunch of Africans, saying "I'm God" is considered a big sin. He'll go to extreme measures just to piss people off.

I'm aware brother

iconize:

What do you call a nation that depends on foreign donors for 50% of its annual budget?

thats not true, besides nigeria doesnt dash ghana anything. Its strictly business?

osystein:

It's a fact that Fulanis are mixed with Berbers, anyway people can believe what they want, you won't convince fulaman of that fact.

here's scientific data confirming that fact

The Fulani have an old "Berber" (?) element



After the second Henn et al. paper I did download the data. Unfortunately there are only 62,000 SNPs intersecting with the HGDP. This is somewhat marginal for fine-grained ADMIXTURE analyses, though sufficient for PCA from what I recall. That being said, the intersection with the HapMap data sets runs from ~190,000 SNPs, to the full 250,000 SNPs (this makes sense since the Henn et al. #2 data set has some HapMap populations in it). So I’ve been experimenting a fair amount in the past few days, and I thought I would post on one issue which was clear in the original paper, but which I have replicated.



The Fulani (Fula) people of the western Sahel seem to have a relatively old West Eurasian component which has distinct affinities with the “Maghrebi” element discerned by Henn et al.

In fact, the non-Sub-Saharan African ancestry of the Fulani is almost exclusively of this origin.

To me this serves as a peculiar mirror of what you see in the Cushitic and Ethiopian Semitic peoples of the far east of the Sahel-Sudan latitudinal region. These populations also seem to be compounds of a Sub-Saharan Africa element with a West Eurasian one, but in their case the admixture is almost exclusively from a Southwest Eurasian (Arabian) component. Geographically these two symmetric admixture events make sense, but the exclusivity is still a bit surprising.

Additionally, in both the case of the Fulani and the Ethiopian and Cushitic groups the admixture is widely distributed and even enough to imply that they are old events. I also assumed this because in some admixture runs a “pure” Fulani cluster partitions out, which is not unexpected for stabilized hybrid populations ( all human populations are stabilized hybrids if you go back far enough).

To give you a flavor of what I’m talking about here are some screen shots of a run which is currently going. It has 180,000 markers. I removed Tunisians and many African populations from the Henn et al. data set, and included in the Utah whites from the HapMap. The individual plots show the ancestral proportions for each Fulani in the data set:





So what can we see here? First, let’s reiterate something: as in the case of the populations of the Horn of Africa the West Eurasian element in the Fulani is difficult to find in “pure” form in the populations from which it putatively derived. What does that imply? I think that that means that the Fulani have an origin in relatively recent historic time, on the order of 2,000, not 10,000, years. That is because I am skeptical that the Fulani would be able to maintain genetic distinctiveness for ~10,000 years from other populations around them. In contrast, the last 2,000 years have seen the rise of various cultural institutions, from trans-Saharan nomadism to Islam, which might slow down admixture sufficiently to maintain the differences between the Fulani and their neighbors. It also implies to me that the non-Maghrebi "Near Eastern” element which Henn et al. discerned is relatively a recent phenomenon in northwest Africa, else the Fulani should also carry it. How recent? Probably from Classical Antiquity down to the Muslim period. Observe that many North Africa groups have a red “European” element. This may be from Near Eastern populations, but I suspect that the fraction here is just too high to be explained by that. Also, you can see above that some groups in Morocco have nearly as much of this as Egyptians, but far less of the more genuine Near Eastern components.

In all likelihood the West Eurasian component came to the Fulani via the Tuareg or a related or antecedent population. So if you typed the Tuareg you would probably get a better sense of the “pure” “Maghrebi” genetic profile. These genetic results also can serve as fodder to understanding the ethnogenesis of the landscape of the Sahel. In the map above it is interesting to observe that the Hausa speak an Afro-Asiatic language, even though their West Eurasian component is far lower than the Fulani, who speak Niger-Congo dialects. What gives? I suspect that the difference here is that the Hausa are a case of elite emulation of a cultural complex which was much more integrated and elaborated by the time it arrived on the West African scene. This explains how there could be language shift, while in the case of the Fulani there was none. Another hypothesis is that Afro-Asiatic derives from Sub-Saharan Africa itself, and the Chadic (Hausa) group are basal to the phylogeny. I’ll let readers explore the implications of that. A final aspect, I put the quotations in the title because perhaps the Berber dialects spread via elite emulation, and the original Maghrebi ancestors of the Fulani spoke a different language, which has been lost?

As they say, for every answer there bloom a thousand questions….

Full of crap, say what you will no facts back up your statement. We never mixed with Berbers until more recently where some not all subgroups of the Fulani have intermarried with Tuareg people. Mixing is seen as a huge crime in Fulani culture.

mrham03: thats not true, besides nigeria doesnt dash ghana anything. Its strictly business?

Please if you must engage me then you've to make researches!

iconize:


Please if you must engage me then you've to make researches!

lol what research do u mean? What do u know abt ghana?

mrham03: lol what research do u mean? What do u know abt ghana?

You're the only Ghanaian who doesn't know where 50% of your annual budget comes from.

iconize:

You're the only Ghanaian who doesn't know where 50% of your annual budget comes from.

what do u mean by donor support? We go for loans which will be paid back. Doesnt the nigerian government also go for loan?

mrham03: what do u mean by donor support? We go for loans which will be paid back. Doesnt the nigerian government also go for loan?

Oh! You call it loan?

Okay!

Does the Nigerian government go for loan to fund 50% of its budget?

Fulaman198:

Full of crap, say what you will no facts back up your statement. We never mixed with Berbers until more recently where some not all subgroups of the Fulani have intermarried with Tuareg people. Mixing is seen as a huge crime in Fulani culture.

okay.

JiggamanGh:

Stop biting off my lines and go milk your goats.

stop biting off my lines u ediot, and go attained to the fowls, u need to keep them warm in bed

iconize:

Nigeria has already acquired Jiggman's nation though not officially.

That's funny, iconize when r u going to be serious.

adamskutty: stop biting off my lines u ediot, and go attained to the fowls, u need to keep them warm in bed

Goat forker

JiggamanGh:

That's funny, iconize when r u going to be serious.

When Ghanaians return to Nigeria in millions.

iconize:

Oh! You call it loan?

Okay!

Does the Nigerian government go for loan to fund 50% of its budget?

Yet Ghana works better than Nigeria in everything. Please don't start another Ghana vs Nigeria e war. We all know that's a never ending e war

JiggamanGh:

[s]Yet Ghana works better than Nigeria in everything. Please don't start another Ghana vs Nigeria e war. We all know that's a never ending e war[/s]

Ghana a former British poultry farm was built with borrowed monies.

Your economy has become a mess because its now payback time.

JiggamanGh:

Goat forker

fowl anus explorer

iconize:

Ghana a former British poultry farm was built with borrowed monies.

Your economy has become a mess because its now payback time.

do u want our army to come and help u fight boko haram? U brag and brag and brag but u have an incompetent army.

mrham03: do u want our army to come and help u fight boko haram? U brag and brag and brag but u have an incompetent army.

You mean the same Army that went to Liberia for peacekeeping but due to cowardice were reduced to common tea makers by the Nigerian Army(African pride)?

Its no news that your soldiers are cowardly tea makers, they stayed in the camp all day making tea.

iconize:



You mean the same Army that went to Liberia for peacekeeping but due to cowardice were reduced to common tea makers by the Nigerian Army(African pride)?

Its no news that your soldiers are cowardly tea makers, they stayed in the camp all day making tea.

african pride indeed! The nigerian that cant fight boko haram, the same army that cant rescue the kidnap girls, the same army that some of it troops ran to cameroon. Hahaha african pride indeed

mrham03: [s]african pride indeed! The nigerian that cant fight boko haram, the same army that cant rescue the kidnap girls, the same army that some of it troops ran to cameroon. Hahaha african pride indeed[/s]

Crap!

Have your army fought any war?

Damn it! Your soldiers are common tea makers.

Ask Liberians and Sierra leoneans if Nigeria Army is the African pride and watch their reactions.

Now you also have to call the American Army incompetent because they didn't win the war in Afghanistan.

iconize:

Crap!

Has your army fought any war?

Damn it! Your soldiers are common tea makers.

Ask Liberians and Sierra leoneans if Nigeria Army is the African pride and watch their reactions.

Now you also have to call the American Army incompetent because they didn't win the war in Afghanistan.

keep deceiving yourself. throughout africa everyone knows that ghana army is the best. Ask obasanjo, ask liberians, ask sierra leone. We train the armies of liberia, sierra leone. Your army isnt the pride of africa. They are simply cowards.

iconize:



You mean the same Army that went to Liberia for peacekeeping but due to cowardice were reduced to common tea makers by the Nigerian Army(African pride)?

Its no news that your soldiers are cowardly tea makers, they stayed in the camp all day making tea.

Ask any Liberian and they will tell you the difference between Ghanaian army and the nigerian one. The best equipped and skillful army during the Liberian war was Ghana and Senegal army. Nigerian army was less trained and they easily corrupt.

JiggamanGh:

Ask any Liberian and they will tell you the difference between Ghanaian army and the nigerian one. The best equipped and skillful army during the Liberian war was Ghana and Senegal army. Nigerian army was less trained and they easily corrupt.

The Ghanaian army were better equipped yet they were reduced to tea makers?

Nigeria Army played a major role in the Liberian war, they liberated the Liberans.

Ever wondered why Nigerian soldiers were idolized over there?

mrham03: keep deceiving yourself. throughout africa everyone knows that ghana army is the best. Ask obasanjo, ask liberians, ask sierra leone. We train the armies of liberia, sierra leone. Your army isnt the pride of africa. They are simply cowards.

Ghanaian army is the best?

An army that have never fought any war. Your soldiers are cowardly tea makers.

Come out victorious in any peacekeeping mission then we can talk.

iconize:

Ghanaian army is the best?

An army that have never fought any war. Your soldiers are cowardly tea makers.

Come out victorious in any peacekeeping mission then we can talk.

ghana army has fought soo many wars, our army has been to burma, cambodia and the likes unlike the nigerian army that is weak, corrupt and full of cowards. I just read that a nigerian army airplane used for fighting boko haram is missing. U see what i mean?

mrham03: [s]ghana army has fought soo many wars, our army has been to burma, cambodia and the likes unlike the nigerian army that is weak, corrupt and full of cowards. I just read that a nigerian army airplane used for fighting boko haram is missing. U see what i mean?[/s]

You say, your armies have fought wars?

Please list where and when they fought those wars.



For the record, www.nairaland.com/1386870/african-militaries-security-services-strictly

iconize:

You say, your armies have fought wars?

Please list where and when they fought those wars.



For the record, www.nairaland.com/1386870/african-militaries-security-services-strictly

there's no need to do that because africa knows that ghana's army is the best

mrham03: there's no need to do that because africa knows that ghana's army is the best

This lad is a joke!

Ghana is not even among the top 10 strongest "best" armies in Africa. Ghana is ranked 15 in Africa.

Its obvious you're very hungry. I advice you go and find something to eat.

-So run along, boy!

iconize:


This lad is a joke!

Ghana is not even among the top 10 strongest "best" armies in Africa. Ghana is ranked 15 in Africa.

Its obvious you're very hungry. I advice you go and find something to eat.

-So run along, boy!

so why cant your great nigerian army defeat boko haram?