rusher14:

And when the Israelis come out to debunk the claim that they have Chinook helicopters?

What would the new spin be?

Let them do that first.
No need to jump the gun.

F117A: No nation would put her defence machineries in the hands of another nation?
Get the hell out of here and stop chatting shitt.
Maybe you don't know that the US sells far more weapons than any other nation on earth.

That is why you are shitt if I'm chatting shitt .... I said ''NO sane Nation'' .... Not ''No nation'' as quoted by you!!

Maybe you read like Ebola bat ...Upside down fucqa !

US may owe China alot of money , Europe Economy may be dependent on Russian Gas/Billionnaires But:

Militarily, The West and East stand Independent while the rest nations in the world are nothing but spectators, watching the bigbrothers doing their stunts and bully except for Japan, NK, Isreal and recently IRAN even India and SouthAfrica are performing better in weapon development !!!

Stand there and wait on Obama/Cameron to come and deliver you !!

Billyonaire:

They remained incubated as opposition fighters until USA sent them weapons of mass destruction. Thank you for telling me what I already knew.

If you already knew then you should also know that ISIS is just al Qaeda with territorial ambition. They are extremists from several countries not just Syria. Al qaeda does not depend on the the U.S for weapons in my opinion.

Collynzo22:
Let them do that first.
No need to jump the gun.

Missy89:

I agree. must weapon deals are usually third party anyway!

Nigerian leaders' thought process right there. Weapons are out there to be bought, if you have the money to spend. Just do a trade exhibition, and invite arm manufacturers to come over and show you what they have got albeit not American companies. They need buyers - and they should be the ones showing you what they've got.

These folks would rather loot the money via shady deals for second-hand weapons, despite the huge budget - than be open about it. Aren't these folks the same people who said Nigerian weapons are classified military secret? - laughable. How logical is that when you don't even make weapons, and everything you buy is out there in the open?

Sincere9gerian: Nigerians are the worst enemy of Nigeria. There is nothing in the report suggesting specifically that the US actually denied blocking the sale of CH-47 Chinook transport aircraft to Nigeria.

Let me help you "Israel does not use CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, so selling surplus (or any stock) to Nigeria or any other nation is not even a possibility. The story about USA blocking the sale of non-existent equipment from Israel is therefore non-sequitur."

Thus, Israel can not sell to Nigeria what it does not have.

shymexx:

Go find a schmuck in ya village league to troll, dyckhead.

And I just had tea, finna get some crumpet in a bit - git.

Hah! You know there's so much in life that I need to teach you when you grow up my boy

Missy89:

The bolded has got to be the best joke on the millennium!

Technology are ideas yes but without the expertise, it would only remain in your mind or the scrap of paper you wrote it on.
Do you know how many innovations that never saw the light of day? because some are deems to advance for their time or there is no money to man power to work and perfect it?. The Chinese, Koreans and Indians still rely on foreign technology to develop most of their weapons systems.
Most of the advanced weapons system made by china and India have Russia components/expertise or blueprint in them.

Nigeria is still years away to even be talking about building their own helicopter. just stick to the guns and small arms for now please.

I repeat you never studied any course related to engineering-technology

According to the law of engineering-technology,

Never say it is impossible when you have not tried many times and when you try and fail many times, just say it might be impossible today and be possible tomorrow



Your view is wrong because we are yet to try

I don't know which part of Nigeria you come from but you sound like someone who comes from a part of Nigeria that do not believe in Black man technological capacity


I repeat


#InvolveOurHigherInstitutions InWeaponsDevelopment

shymexx:

Nigerian leaders' thought process right there. Weapons are out there to be bought, if you have the money to spend. Just do a trade exhibition, and invite arm manufacturers to come over and show you what they have got albeit not American companies. They need buyers - and they should be the ones showing you what they've got.

These folks would rather loot the money via shady deals for second-hand weapons, despite the huge budget - than be open about it. Aren't these folks the same people who said Nigerian weapons are classified military secret? - laughable. How logical is that when you don't even make weapons, and everything you buy is out there in the open?

The armory is pretty much empty

Nigerian armed forces are very heavy handed in their tactics, if there was some heavy armor in the armory they would have rolled them out already.

This BH crisis is an eye opener that those pot belly generals need to go and the military needs a complete overhaul

The USA hates Nigeria thats all. They wanna be the only equipped nation...

hercules07:

The ones defending the government on Nairaland are not gullible, they are paid.

Yes, a lot of folks are paid.

But a lot of Nigerians also spout nonsense. They watch too much MSM.

Aren't Nigerians the same ones who actually believe the naija army that can't defeat BH, the best in Africa? The government is a reflection of the people, and those throwing junk out there know how gullible the folks are.

These are the same folks who don't even care about how they're governed, and they believe the government selling all the country's assets off to their cronies under the disguise of privatisation is the best thing since slice bread. The same folks who don't even know what they're entitled to as a people.

Mogidi:

Is the above not a hint they ordered Israel not to deal with us?

And what about....

"Israel does not use CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, so selling surplus (or any stock) to Nigeria or any other nation is not even a possibility. The story about USA blocking the sale of non-existent equipment from Israel is therefore non-sequitur."

Sincere9gerian: Nigerians are the worst enemy of Nigeria. There is nothing in the report suggesting specifically that the US actually denied blocking the sale of CH-47 Chinook transport aircraft to Nigeria.

dnt mind some gullible journalists

Collynzo22:
Who is talking about state department, the guy who gave the opinion (Dan) is a media analyst who said what he said based on what he saw on the internet. The US official never said such, there are secrets in weapons and arms deals that goes beyond what is posted on the internet.

Oh thought he was the state department guy, I apologise.

Missy89:
The armory is pretty much empty

Nigerian armed forces are very heavy handed in their tactics, if there was some heavy armor in the armory they would have rolled them out already.

This BH crisis is an eye opener that those pot belly generals need to go and the military needs a complete overhaul

Bwahahahahaha

Just boxes of obsolete weapons, world war 2 T-72 tanks, obsolete fighter jets, China made Soviet era Mig-21 called J-7, AK47s etc., no? America is so scared of Nigeria!!!! Just one s300 missile from Algeria should take out Aso Rock! Can Nigeria even defend against missiles? Hamas should be able to defeat Nigeria then.

Complete overhaul is an understatement - they need to start afresh, and create a new military. Angola started after about three decades of civil war and it has overtaken Nigeria militarily, so there's still hope if they can start afresh.

deScifa:

And what about....

"Israel does not use CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, so selling surplus (or any stock) to Nigeria or any other nation is not even a possibility. The story about USA blocking the sale of non-existent equipment from Israel is therefore non-sequitur."

I quoted the embassy’s press attaché Sean McIntosh, you quoted Mukhtar Dan’Iyan the editor in chief of the 15Past8 Media Group, there lies the difference.

kolomax: The United States embassy in Nigeria has faulted a story of its purported blocking of the sale of CH-47 Chinook transport aircraft by the state of Israel to Nigeria.
Responding to the story published by ThisDay newspaper, that the US had prevented Israel from selling the cargo helicopters to Nigeria, the embassy’s press attaché, Sean J. McIntosh, said his country had a good diplomatic relationship with Nigeria.
“The United States remains committed to helping the government of Nigeria address the threat posed by the terrorist organisation Boko Haram. We continue to support Nigerian efforts to bring about the safe recovery of the abductees and to advise the government of Nigeria on its response,” he said.
He further added that, “We are advising on issues of survivor support, humanitarian assistance, criminal investigations, intelligence and strategic communications.”
He, however, declined to give any assurance of a mutual complement of arms purchase policy that is not in conformity with that of his country and its interests.
“U.S. Departments of State and Defense review all potential arms transfers for their consistency with US policy and interests, as detailed in the US Conventional Arms Transfer Policy, updated by President Obama in January. This includes any requests for one country to transfer US-origin defence items to another country,” McIntosh said, emphasising that he could not comment on any specific application of the policy.
Meanwhile, Mukhtar Dan’Iyan, the editor-in-chief of the 15Past8 Media Group based in New York City, who is also an expert on Africa and Middle East policy and security gave his opinion on the matter in a tweet he posted.
Dan’Iyan wrote, “Israel does not use CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, so selling surplus (or any stock) to Nigeria or any other nation is not even a possibility. The story about USA blocking the sale of non-existent equipment from Israel is therefore non-sequitur.
“Incidentally, Israel uses the Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion as its heavy transport helicopter, and Boeing would do anything to get that business for its Chinook,” he wrote.
Boko Haram killed 13,000 Nigerians in 5 years – Jonathan
President Goodluck Jonathan has in New York, United Statesthat the Boko Haram sect has killed about 13,000 persons in Nigeria since 2005.
Addressing the United Nations Security Council High-Level Meeting on the Threat of Terrorism to Global Peace and Security yesterday , Jonathan, who urged the international community to act immediately to stop the troubling new phenomenon of terrorists and foreign fighters attacking and trying to hold parts of sovereign nations, stated that there was the need to support countries like Nigeria which are in the frontline of the war against terrorism.
Informing the UN Security Council that his administration has continued relentlessly to confront the menace of terrorism with unrelenting determination, Jonathan said the federal government has also evolved initiatives to alleviate the plight of people in affected communities.
He said, “Nigeria knows too well the destructive effects of terrorist activities. Over the past five years, we have been, and are still confronting threats posed by Boko Haram to peace and stability predominantly in the North Eastern part of our country.
“The costs are high: over 13,000 people have been killed, whole communities razed, and hundreds of persons kidnapped, the most prominent being our innocent daughters from Chibok Secondary School, in North East Nigeria.
As daunting as the challenge may be, we have faced it with unrelenting determination, mobilising all the resources at our disposal to ensure that the scourge of terrorism is rooted out of our nation.
“In addition to our counterterrorism efforts, we have evolved initiatives to alleviate the plight of the population in the affected communities. These include a holistic effort through the Presidential Initiative for the North East (PINE) which is aimed at providing immediate relief and fast tracking the infrastructural re-development of the region. It also has as a core goal, an integrated effort at achieving the de-radicalisation of potential terrorist recruits.
“We have also launched a Victims Support Fund which has already raised about $500million of the expected minimum of $1billion in direct support of the victims of acts of terrorism. This is in addition to the. Safe Schools Initiative championed by Mr. Gordon Brown, former British Prime Minister and currently the UN Special Envoy for Global Education which is being rigorously supported by Nigeria’s Federal Government”.
Jonathan further urged the international community must also do more to support countries like Nigeria which are in the frontline of the war against terrorism.
He said, “There is no doubt that foreign fighters have added a troubling dimension to this emerging phase of terrorism. From targeted attacks by Al Qaeda a few years ago, we now have mobile bands of thousands of terrorists sweeping across vast areas, destroying lives, and even attempting to hold territory. This is unacceptable; we must act now.
“We must capitalize on the commitment and evident determination of the Security Council to seek more innovative responses to the threat of terrorism and in particular to the growing menace of foreign fighters. The Council should be concerned about the existence of sources of arming and funding terrorists. Evidence has shown that Boko Haram, for instance, is resourced largely from outside our country.
“We must also commit to ensuring that countries which are in the frontline of this challenge, receive adequate support from the international community.
Only by united action and firm resolve can we check this raging threat to humanity, and also build the enduring structures that will resist their re-emergence”.
Reject cancer of violent extremism, Obama tells the world
…Denounces ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram
United States president, Barack Obama has called on the world to join him in the effort to degrade and ultimately destroy militants terrorising the world.
Addressing the United Nations (UN) General Assembly in New York, Obama highlighted efforts being made to build an international coalition to combat ISIS and Al-Qaeda terrorists, who are taking some parts of the countries affected by their activities.
According to Obama, the militants were terrorising people in Iraq and Syria, gunning down innocent children and subjecting mothers, sisters and daughters to rape as a weapon of war.
“Bodies have been dumped in mass graves. Religious minorities have been starved to death. In the most horrific crimes imaginable, innocent human beings have been beheaded, with videos of the atrocity distributed to shock the conscience of the world.
“In this effort, we do not act alone. Nor do we intend to send US troops to occupy foreign lands. We will train and equip forces fighting against these terrorists on the ground. We will work to cut off their financing and to stop the flow of fighters into and out of the region.
“The ideology of ISIS or Al-Qaeda or Boko Haram will wilt and die if it is consistently exposed, confronted and refuted in the light of day,” Obama said.
He cited as an example a new Forum for Promoting Peace in Muslim Societies and Sheikh binBayyah, who described its purpose: “We must declare war on war, so the outcome will be peace upon peace. Look at the young British Muslims who responded to terrorist propaganda by starting the hash tag #NotInMyName campaign, declaring ‘ISIS is hiding behind a false Islam’.
“Look at the Christian and Muslim leaders who came together in the Central African Republic to reject violence. Listen to the Imam who said, ‘Politics tries to divide the religious in our country, but religion shouldn’t be a cause of hate, war, or strife’.”
President Obama urged the world – especially Muslim communities – to explicitly, forcefully and consistently reject the ideology of Al-Qaeda, ISIS and Boko Haram.

OP this is damn too long. are you high on something? aaarh!

deScifa:

Let me help you "Israel does not use CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, so selling surplus (or any stock) to Nigeria or any other nation is not even a possibility. The story about USA blocking the sale of non-existent equipment from Israel is therefore non-sequitur."

Thus, Israel can not sell to Nigeria what it does not have.

What is this one talking about? Do you know that the US controls majority of the world's arms trade both formal and informal. You think the US don't participate in underground arms trade to revolutionaries around the world? Do you know the real story behind Cuba?
What it seems in the world today is not actually what it is in real life. Do not be fooled. America plays double politics.

Missy89:

I can build a satellite if i have the time. it is not hard to do. students build mini satellites for fun with Iphone processors and scrap metals from the junk yard and pay few bucks to get it launched. the shelf life are usually small thou because it doesn't have advance power(they use cell batteries most times)
The way to know how sophisticated it is by knowing the components and capabilities. will it carry advance optics? infrared? what is the shelf life? how fast is it?how advance is the processor? what is the purpose etc.

That is nothing special in being the first to launch it because countries like south Africa etc can do it as well in a hear beat but maybe they would rather just buy it abroad. After all even if Nigeria is to launch it, they will still have buy a space time abroad and send it to space from a foreign country or are we developing advanced rockets to send it to space as well?

Those kind of white elephant project can be used to bamboozle gullible Nigerians not the well informed ones.

good luck to them!

you don't have the facts, so you have no right

hercules07:

Oh thought he was the state department guy, I apologise.

We forget that the Nigerian source of this whole "USA is blocking our arms purchase" debacle is unnamed

There would be an official denial about this in days to come.

BlackTechnology:


I repeat you never studied any course related to engineering-technology

According to the law of engineering-technology,

Never say it is impossible when you have not tried many times and when you try and fail many times, just say it might be impossible today and be possible tomorrow



Your view is wrong because we are yet to try

I don't know which part of Nigeria you come from but you sound like someone who comes from a part of Nigeria that do not believe in Black man technological capacity


I repeat


#InvolveOurHigherInstitutions InWeaponsDevelopment

Nigerians can be funny really.

The bolded has to be a joke of some sort. is it?

this doesn't have anything to do with black man mentality but reality. now lets see. assuming we want to start weapons development.
involving higher institutions isn't the first step.

The education system would need a complete overhaul to start with.
Teachers, needs to be retrained
There must be enough infrastructure to support development
There must be financial asses to keep development going
The markets must be there (u cant just create weapons and use them alone, u have to sell or it wont be profitable)

This is just to mention a few

I can start telling you how those list cant even be achieved in the the next 20 years not to talk of 40.

You cant just throw few millions into those glorified high schools and expect them to come up with a missile. apart from the fact that is wishful thinking, the quality of graduates and teachers cant support that kind of ideas.

Your ideas are what actually makes people think the black people cant do this kinds of things not mine. u seem to be living in Utopia. Are u?

Law of engineering my foot!

hercules07:

Oh thought he was the state department guy, I apologise.

Blame it on Nigerian media who muddle up official statements with tweeted opinions from random individuals all in one article, and finally uses a headline that is completely unrelated.
All for traffic and propaganda.

shymexx:

Yes, a lot of folks are paid.

But a lot of Nigerians also spout nonsense. They watch too much MSM.

Aren't Nigerians the same ones who actually believe the naija army that can't defeat BH, the best in Africa? The government is a reflection of the people, and those throwing junk out there know how gullible the folks are.

These are the same folks who don't even care about how they're governed, and they believe the government selling all the country's assets off to their cronies under the disguise of privatisation is the best thing since slice bread. The same folks who don't even know what they're entitled to as a people.

Ha, Nigerian privatisation, at least the Americans talk about trickle down economy (bullshit), our leaders dont even pretend, everything private is good, anything public is bad.

cirmuell: you don't have the facts, so you have no right

Lol I don't need to have the facts. If those stuffs i listed were sophisticated enough, we would have heard it by now!

Omen100: I pursed the reading of this epistle to make, so president jonathan told the world that boko haram have so far killed 13,000 Nigerians and he back dated the boko haram crisis to 2005 to make it look like previous governments before him failed to tackle the menace and that he's the only tackling it, this man called jonathan & his handles think they are clever,



hmmm, make I continue 2 read d stori dey go 1st, I go comment when I finish

So what's your problem?

Missy89:

Lol I don't need to have the facts. If those stuffs i listed were sophisticated enough, we would have heard it by now!

Any competent Army will route the Nigeria Army in days not weeks, they should thank their stars they are fighting BH, imagine them against these ISIS guys.

Missy89:

I can build a satellite if i have the time. it is not hard to do. students build mini satellites for fun with Iphone processors and scrap metals from the junk yard and pay few bucks to get it launched. the shelf life are usually small thou because it doesn't have advance power(they use cell batteries most times)
The way to know how sophisticated it is by knowing the components and capabilities. will it carry advance optics? infrared? what is the shelf life? how fast is it?how advance is the processor? what is the purpose etc.

That is nothing special in being the first to launch it because countries like south Africa etc can do it as well in a hear beat but maybe they would rather just buy it abroad. After all even if Nigeria is to launch it, they will still have buy a space time abroad and send it to space from a foreign country or are we developing advanced rockets to send it to space as well?

Those kind of white elephant project can be used to bamboozle gullible Nigerians not the well informed ones.

good luck to them!

you don't have the facts, so you have no right

did u expect me to read all dis

Missy89:

I can build a satellite if i have the time. it is not hard to do. students build mini satellites for fun with Iphone processors and scrap metals from the junk yard and pay few bucks to get it launched. the shelf life are usually small thou because it doesn't have advance power(they use cell batteries most times)
The way to know how sophisticated it is by knowing the components and capabilities. will it carry advance optics? infrared? what is the shelf life? how fast is it?how advance is the processor? what is the purpose etc.

That is nothing special in being the first to launch it because countries like south Africa etc can do it as well in a hear beat but maybe they would rather just buy it abroad. After all even if Nigeria is to launch it, they will still have buy a space time abroad and send it to space from a foreign country or are we developing advanced rockets to send it to space as well?

Those kind of white elephant project can be used to bamboozle gullible Nigerians not the well informed ones.

good luck to them!

you don't have the facts, so you have no right to downplay it.

It is no big deal in your eyes but until

cirmuell: you don't have the facts, so you have no right to downplay it.

It is no big deal in your eyes but until

i dont need to. Nigerian standards are legendary.

Mogidi:

I quoted the embassy’s press attaché Sean McIntosh, you quoted Mukhtar Dan’Iyan the editor in chief of the 15Past8 Media Group, there lies the difference.

Forget some Nigerians. They are too blind to see what is going on. I laughed at Nigerians who think America is their friend. An enemy friend is dangerous than a known foe.
High time Nigeria forms big collabos with China and North Korea.

hercules07:

Ha, Nigerian privatisation, at least the Americans talk about trickle down economy (bullshit), our leaders dont even pretend, everything private is good, anything public is bad.

That's what they don't understand. Folks watch too much TV and see words, off the bat, believe that's how America and other countries work...without getting themselves acquainted with other things the complement the privatisation drive with to appease the people.

Also, rather than hold the govt responsible for not doing what it's meant to do, and paid for to do with the country's sovereign wealth - they believe selling all the country's assets without getting anything in return is the progressive way. I just don't understand the mentality of the people.