toecyne:
It is sometimes very annoying wen some people say Okocha is the best footballer ever, and that he is not recognized becos he is Nigerian.
Some even say he is better than Ronaldinho because he benched Ronaldinho wen dinho was only 20, and was yet to adapt to european football. Y not just say giggs is also better than C.Ronaldo because he benched him wen he was new in Man United or that Guily is better than Messi because he benched messi wen messi was still very young

Yaya toure is an african nd he is leading man city, Eto was Barcelona top striker for abt 4 years and a nigerian also played for barca in the 1990s, mikel(a nigerian) was nearly thorn apart by man u and chelsea, they wanted him badly.. my point is african/nigerian or not, you would be rewarded accordingly and sought after if you are that good. Okocha is jst over hyped

Are you from Ghana or South Africa ?

toecyne:
It is sometimes very annoying wen some people say Okocha is the best footballer ever, and that he is not recognized becos he is Nigerian.
Some even say he is better than Ronaldinho because he benched Ronaldinho wen dinho was only 20, and was yet to adapt to european football. Y not just say giggs is also better than C.Ronaldo because he benched him wen he was new in Man United or that Guily is better than Messi because he benched messi wen messi was still very young

Yaya toure is an african nd he is leading man city, Eto was Barcelona top striker for abt 4 years and a nigerian also played for barca in the 1990s, mikel(a nigerian) was nearly thorn apart by man u and chelsea, they wanted him badly.. my point is african/nigerian or not, you would be rewarded accordingly and sought after if you are that good. Okocha is jst over hyped

Dont you think you have a problem with your head?

Okocha was actually underrated in his prime.

To say a football maestro and magician like Okocha was overhyped, is dumbness.

Smh.

Ately:
@op who give u permision to post.... Abeg pursue ur mate inside gurter






#abeg who. Rice. For house cus I dea hung

okonja:
So, what's your main point now because all you wrote is trash..

Guy,

hahaha..

Nawaooo

sufri sufri , no be fight now.

jmoore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeFJQ7dgUn8

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"Okocha on the other hand was so enterprising in the friendly 3-0 loss against the Brazilians in Abuja some years back that their great coach Mario Zagalo was chasing Jay Jay with the Brazilian No10 jersey after the game to commend him for a job well done." - See more at: http://www.sportsdayonline.com/news.aspx?lb_newsid=6895#sthash.taAgyvfa.dpuf

my gawd!! how can a sane person watch this video clip of okocha's dribbling, passing, shots, free kicks and say he was overhyped?? geez..if you dont have mb to watch the video clip then zip it! this guy was a wizard!

Stop talking thrash, Okocha is the greatest footballer ever in Nigeria. He was just unlucky not to have won CAF African footballer of the Year, mediocre footballer like Victor Ikpeba won it

Nairalanders are foul-mouthed and too insultive. Haba! Y can't one critique anoda's comment in a civilize way without diluting t wit UBANKA, UR FADA!, U R STUPID ETC y? Aren't we intellectuals? Moderator, pls take note.

Okocha is simply a product of wrong decision, chose bolton ahead of other big clubs.moreso, he was never serious with football. He saw it as all fun.

okocha remains one of the best average players in Africa

ednut1:
what is this one saying. okocha was an average player

GUY

,U NO JS WELLL......STOP TALKIN GIBBERISH

Op is a basketball lover because if you are a true fan of soccer, Okocha wud be among ur favourites. Infact, maybe you shud try and download d best video of him and enjoy watching soccer. Wat wud be my gain if Manu, chelsea, barca or madrid wins trophies or ronaldo, messi or Zidane breaks nd set new records. Just enjoy ur life watching soccer, Okocha is among those footballers that wud make u happy with their profession. Just imagine Okocha, Iniesta, Zidane, Messi against Mikel, pedro, Ramires and Yaya. You go laff tire.

Jay-Jay wasn't overrated. If you actually watched him play all through the period He was in the national team,and you still think He was over-hyped,then I'm sorry to say you don't know anything. One thing is certain;we can't call him a successful player due to the fact that He was unlucky to not have won any trophy(both at the local and international level) in club football. But everywhere He played,He was the life wire of the team. As good as wilson oruma was,He was shut out from the team cos of jay-jay. Oruma was a good no 10 like Okocha but never made a hit with the super eagles cos of jay-jay. It's also ridiculous to question why He never played for the big clubs,when you do not know if He was offered a contract with them or not;do you have facts to back such claims up? Also know this,football managers play a big role in the success of a lot of players;I feel jay-jay never had the best of managers during his days. That to me sums up why he never got into the big teams. With the amount of skills and talent He had,he would have made it with some of the very big teams,considering the fact that He was as good as some of the playmakers in those teams(if not better than most of them). Jay-jay single handedly lifted a team like bolton wanderers. It's a pity He played in the premier league when He was already getting old(in his 30's).

In terms of skills and talents,He's without a doubt,one of the best footballers the world has ever seen. In terms of trophies and football success,I think He's one of the most unlucky players the world would ever know.

Dis is what unemloyment can cause,arguing dead issues............

WoodcrestMayor:
Was Alan Shearer a great player?

If u answered "yes",Okocha was great too.

If u answered "No"...there's a problem sumwhere

you have just KILLED this thread /argument. your head dey there

Okocha was massive for both club nd country,if he was dat ordinary y avnt we found a replacement for him in d supereagles,he has great tecnique,immense dribbling skills,his passes re xceptional,he was in d team of tournament france98 worldcup!he had an impact in almost all d clubs he played for,pls nd pls watch j j over nd over again nd u wil see how great he was,!wat pained me most was his inability to play 4 topsides in europe.

IyfeNamikaze:


you have just KILLED this thread /argument. your head dey there

sexyexcalibur:


With all due respect have u heard Pele talk recently.......
D guy z not dt bright u know

Was it recently he called Okocha great? Let's get it right. Pele is a god in football and his opinion(s) do kount!

toecyne:

Who released you from the prison?

@toecyne,what you wrote is trash. definately the indian hemp and high drugs you took before you went to prison still disturbs your brain thats the reason you wrote this rubbish .you are the one that escaped from the prison.You better rush back to kirikiri prison so you are officially directed to yaba left b4 it wud be too late.Ass hole.

ShakurM:
I was liking ur points but how dare you type that a whole Pele can't reason well in his own field. C'mon man!!

No all I am saying is that Pele is not infallible. You cannot construct a logical argument based on a fallible source. Pele's prediction did not come true and his opinion on messi and neymar was loaded with the sentiment of patriot.

Respect to Pele,but rossike cannot build a solid argument based on his opinion. It crumbles once it can be shown that he did not get it right just once as in the case of his prediction concerning an African team winning the world cup by a certain period.

Guys let me add to this Okocha sees football as business then fun too so he was not bothered about his carer that was why he went to Turkey when players are going to real,barca,manu,munich, arsenal and so on but he went to a free tax country just because of money.

Personally as talented as he was I think he had a bad incompetent agent. Compared to say Kanu or an Oliseh

He was not overhyped, but he underachieved...

All this might have been due to his African origin, but George Weah was African, even Liberian and still won World Footballer and Ballon d'Or in 1995...

otipoju:


i was waiting for your reply. I know that it takes a long time for your shallow brain to boot.

so many fallacies AND Sophistries in your argument.I will not fall for it.

1.Appeal to Authority...

Pele sees Okocha as great.So what, it is his own personal opinion. it does not mean that he can reason well. First check the meaning of greatness to understand what is being talked about. Okocha is very very skillfull player and i have reiterated it severally, but is he great? Nooooo. Why, he did not amass any trophies, broke any records or personal honours that set him apart from the pack. Besides what skill did Okocha have that we have not seen from "great players" like Ronaldo Delima, Zidane, Figo, Maradona,Roberto Baggio, Rui Costa et al who combined extraodinary skills with winning trophies and personal awards and achievements here and there.

2.Begging the question.

Where in this whole argument did the issue of playmaker come in.. what exactly is your point? that greatness is restricted to playmakers and therefore great strikers like Filipo Inzaghi, great defenders like Paulo Maldini and goalkeepers like Oliver Khan and Peter Scmiechel who did not have the skills of Okocha but did what they did extraordinarily well and won trophies for top clubs do not count? Daft Old man..... your stupidity or senility on display again.

3. Poisoning the well.

No where in my post did i call Okocha mediocre, he has achieved his aims...play regularly, enjoy football, entertain the fans and make good money in the process...Being world best or achieving greatness was not on his agenda...until he saw the light later in his career and by then age was no longer on his side. He had a fantastic career.It is your brain that i was referring to as mediocre because you do not know how to reason. Your thought process is disjointed and it is therefor mediocre.



4.Appeal to Probability.

You concluded that I use a Cheap china phone which to you represents poverty...which also translates into the the deduction that it is responsible for an inability to think properly. Well i will not be dragged to your level.Those who use China phones are grateful that they have them. And please what has using a China phone from Asia just like Samsung ,Lenovo or LG got to do with the ability to construct a sound argument and articulate your view point cohesively...Mr Rich man,some people like you are so poor that all they have is money.

5.Red Herring

Yes there is politics in football...just like in religion, work and every facet of life. But it did not stop Chelsea and Man United to fight to the death over the potential for greatness that they so in Mikel Obi as a green horn,nor did it stop Manchester City from snapping up Kelechi Iheanacho or Emmanuel Amuneke from playing for Barcelona, Sunday Oliseh from playing for Juventus or Finidi from winning the champions league with Ajax in its hey deys nor Taribo West from turning out for Inter Milan.Nor Kanu from playing for Arsenal and winning the FA Cup with Portsmouth. Wether you are black ,blue or red, the truly great clubs will come for you if they believe you will add value to them...

Okocha shied away from them in spite of his immense talents because what was uppermost in his mind was a regular shirt,enjoying himself and entertaining his fans while making cool money in the process.

If you can provide superior arguments to counter my position, please do so because i am not impressed with the shallow, confused and disjointed thinking of a retarded person that you are spitting out.

u killed it. abeg tell am more, am following right behind

Obi1kenobi:
Okocha was a good player, but was not amog the world's best. He won next to nothing and didn't distinguish himself at the highest levels of the game, and seemed more obsessed with showboating than making the right decisions. And no, irrespective of what "Pele said", Okocha is nowhere near the top 100 players. I liked Okocha. I think Nigeria currently lacks a playmaker of his technical ability who can put his foot on the ball and control the game. But he's overrated by Nigerians because he could pull off fancy tricks and flicks. There are many players like that playing in the domestic Brazilian and South American leagues. Modern era top class European influenced football needs morethan Okoch offered at the highest level.

Mr MAN!! See as u use ur hand dey shoot ur self 4 leg. "Okocha lacks technical ability" but still "Nigeria currently lacks a playmaker who can put his foot on d ball nd control d game" WHAT AN IRONY. Lolz. 4 pele who played football nd his living football 2 name him nd he is also a brazilian dat also lives in brazil nd have over d years played, watched and followed brazilian league , my broda PA Jay is not over rated. Okocha just enjoyed d game as he saw it nd most especially went 4 d money. Datz why he went 2 Turkey nd Quater, where salaries re not taxed. So u can saty in ur kitchen or mansion nd say dat he is not great because he didn't win anytin. Remember Abidi pele of Ghana won african best player 3times, compare him 2 jay jay now. Who is richer? Of all gifts in dis lyf my broda WISDOM is d ultimate.

Iceg:



Totally agree wit u....ppl always say okocha taught ronaldinho how to play.....To me hes jst an overhyped player who jst knew how to do the rainbow flicks and the stepovers.....he wasnt african footballer once in his career,,and some ignorant ppl compare him to the likes of eto'o ,,if he was so good as nigerians portray ,why didnt the likes of man u,madrid,barca,chelsea,and oder top clubs come callin 4 him,,or you tink thoes clubs dont go 4 d best......he was a good player....but ppl should mind the type of worldclass players dy compare him to.

ronaldinho in one of his interviews confirm it that he learn his skills from okocha by watching him play football. so if people say okocha taught him d skills I think they can still b adjudged 2 b right. my opinion though

Fellonigerians:
He was not overhyped, but he underachieved...

Exactly my point. You become great by winning many things. Truly great players know this and don't settle for less.

Obi1kenobi:
Okocha was a good player, but was not amog the world's best. He won next to nothing and didn't distinguish himself at the highest levels of the game, and seemed more obsessed with showboating than making the right decisions. And no, irrespective of what "Pele said", Okocha is nowhere near the top 100 players. I liked Okocha. I think Nigeria currently lacks a playmaker of his technical ability who can put his foot on the ball and control the game. But he's overrated by Nigerians because he could pull off fancy tricks and flicks. There are many players like that playing in the domestic Brazilian and South American leagues. Modern era top class European influenced football needs morethan Okoch offered at the highest level.

Irrespective of what pele said but respective of what Obi1kenibi said. Who are we supposed to listen to? You or Pele?

otipoju:


No all I am saying is that Pele is not infallible. You cannot construct a logical argument based on a fallible source. Pele's prediction did not come true and his opinion on messi and neymar was loaded with the sentiment of patriot.

Respect to Pele,but rossike cannot build a solid argument based on his opinion. It crumbles once it can be shown that he did not get it right just once as in the case of his prediction concerning an African team winning the world cup by a certain period.

I like ya but hold up, Now the notion is changed..we ain't talking predictions , we talking facts. Assuming he does state that Ronaldo or Messi aren't great, then we all can and should question his thinking.

toecyne:
It is sometimes very annoying wen some people say Okocha is the best footballer ever, and that he is not recognized becos he is Nigerian.
Some even say he is better than Ronaldinho because he benched Ronaldinho wen dinho was only 20, and was yet to adapt to european football. Y not just say giggs is also better than C.Ronaldo because he benched him wen he was new in Man United or that Guily is better than Messi because he benched messi wen messi was still very young

Yaya toure is an african nd he is leading man city, Eto was Barcelona top striker for abt 4 years and a nigerian also played for barca in the 1990s, mikel(a nigerian) was nearly thorn apart by man u and chelsea, they wanted him badly.. my point is african/nigerian or not, you would be rewarded accordingly and sought after if you are that good. Okocha is jst over hyped

okocha was a great player but the guy is too selfish on the pitch

toecyne:
It is sometimes very annoying wen some people say Okocha is the best footballer ever, and that he is not recognized becos he is Nigerian.
Some even say he is better than Ronaldinho because he benched Ronaldinho wen dinho was only 20, and was yet to adapt to european football. Y not just say giggs is also better than C.Ronaldo because he benched him wen he was new in Man United or that Guily is better than Messi because he benched messi wen messi was still very young

Yaya toure is an african nd he is leading man city, Eto was Barcelona top striker for abt 4 years and a nigerian also played for barca in the 1990s, mikel(a nigerian) was nearly thorn apart by man u and chelsea, they wanted him badly.. my point is african/nigerian or not, you would be rewarded accordingly and sought after if you are that good. Okocha is jst over hyped

We have to put things in perspective. if what you mean by Okocha being overated has to do with him not winning personal and team laurels then you're right. But if you're talking of his ability then i say to your Mr, you don't know football. Okocha is one of the greatest footballer to grace the game of football.