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| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 5:34pm On Jan 22, 2007 |
belotti,this story may interest you,a man called cornelius who gave much alms and prayed constantly but the Bible records he still needed salvation. I love that story because it reminds me of my upbringing. I was born into a protestant church going family that annually donated food and clothing to the motherless babies home and leper colony. We prayed often and mom was the church commitee secretary since I was born. I learnt to recite various Bible passages in Igbo and English as a Child,was baptized,confirmed and received holy communion. Went to Church every Sunday,hosted Reverends and Bishops in our home and every celebration we had was preceeded by a Church service. Knew most hymns in the hymn book by heart and called myself a Christian but living for Christ is more than that. It is a complete regeneration of the heart that is difficult to explain. It starts by acknowledging that salvation is not by works,not by activities but by acknowledging the work of Grace and allowing the Spirit of God to lead your every action[/b A Christian living for Christ lives a life of prayer,fasts,gives his time and resources to Gods work,gives to the less fortunate,loves,keeps away from immoral living like fornication,would not tell lies or seek to defraud you,would not drink alcohol or smoke,do drugs or indulge in all the vices we know today,[b]seeks always to be like Christ,the reason we quote scriptures,that's the guideline and our only standard. read more about Cornelius I told you earlier http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Act/Act010.html#2 |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 5:45pm On Jan 22, 2007 |
belloti: 1. Matt 6: 7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. It is not the amount of times you pray daily that will save your skin from the embers of hell. Romans 10: 8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 2. How does much prayer distract you from worldly sins? What of the other times of the day when you are not praying? Are you exposed to worldly sins then? What really are "worldly sins" since this same things are regarded as rewards for the righteous in aljaanat? 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 3. What would you have done alternatively as a christian? Accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour and you would be free of the deeds of the flesh and the works of righteousness that would lead you to no where! You would not have to be religiously counting the number of times you pray! belloti: This is typical of a phariseeic attitude. Luke 18: 9And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. 13And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 5:48pm On Jan 22, 2007 |
I am not saying Christians cannot sometimes be overtaken with a sinful act. It happens but our standard is to live like Christ and geniune repentance after a fall away is forgiven by Christ that's why we cannot understand why allah would want to cut off hands and feet of thieves,or stone an adulterer or raped woman and yet you tell us he is merciful. When then does he show his mercies? Our God is a merciful God and would not sanction such punishment,that does not mean He is blind to sin,His plan is that everyone repents and comes to his saving grace. Even a murderer has a chance at repentance with our God. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by belloti(m): 9:50am On Jan 23, 2007 |
A point of correction, David and Baby. I was not bragging about our religious activities, i was only listing part of the duties of an average muslim and wondering how idle i would have being after given christiniaty the needed recognition. This apart also, in Islam we dont believe that the weight of your righteousness alone is enough to take you to heaven but we all know that Allah is Gafurrun Raheem. Allah is the most Beneficient, The most Merciful. Reward and Punishment; Allah SAW promised to punish the wrong doers in hell IF THEY DID NOT REPENT TILL THEY DIED. The Lord also said the Forgiveness is His. He assured us of His forgiveness whenever we ask. Your confusion about Sharia Legal System confounded your ignorance about Allah's Mercies. Sharia is an islamic alternative to the conventional legal system, the convictions and sentences follows a pragmatic but transparent judicial processes with lawyers witnesses and judges. It is essentially a state Law and has nothing to do with your personal relationship with God. You broke state law, tried by the state and punished by the state IN LINE with islamic provisions. But if you offended the Lord and seek for His forgiveness sincerely, that is 100% guaranteed Insha Allah. And David, there is no Quranic provision or Hadith that encourages violence, rape or terror, its basically a matter of interpretation and opinion. You know these verses were revealed in the context of some prevailing circumstances. Alternatively, human reasoning then could have led to a worst case scenarios. Last weekend i heard someone said on CNN that if you want legitimise violence you can get support from any scripture you chooses even from a dictionary. Islam is not about rape, terror or killings and Insha Allah i can never be a party to either. I also advice us to keep following the good teachings of Islam and stop telling us that Islam is bad because it hurts when you say that. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 2:35am On Jan 25, 2007 |
so bellotti,you want to overlook those bad areas eh? Even the places about Muhammad sleeping with helpless slave girls,we should just forget them and focus solely on the peaceful verses. My joy is that you know the truth. Its up to you what you choose to do with it. But sincerely ask your imams and mullahs their interp of those bad areas and get back to us. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by belloti(m): 10:26am On Jan 30, 2007 |
There you go again Baby, there is no bad areas in islam but there are percieved bad areas depending on who is saying it. All the negative and cheap publicities you are giving our holy prophet, Muhammad SAW, you cant take away the fact that he is our hero and role model and could have being yours too if only you knew. The truth here is subjective and dont cut your joy yet but remember one day all of us will account for our actions and inactions. The day of recknoning is coming. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by hannydarl(f): 8:52am On Jan 31, 2007 |
my dear belloti i was wondering why you keep thinking that as a mortal man mohamed was perfect? lets call a spade a speda if he acted unjostly to slave girls, caused justice to fall mainly on poor people then admit he was wrong. besides why is it that in islam it is mostly a woman that gets caught in adultry i mean where did the man go?a woman is boldly accused of adultry but no man is claiming to be the man who did it with her and so she gets stoned alone i just wonder if a woman can do it with her selfi mean if a guy is not involved then there was no act commited pls explain this to me. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by belloti(m): 9:26am On Jan 31, 2007 |
Hannydarl i have explained that before. In the olden days they dont have the benefit of a DNA and so you cant point on any man with enough evidence for conviction. And even then the punishment was not strictly effected as in most cases the women were encouraged to repent and move on with their lives elsewhere. Most if any effected were largely due to the insistence of the women to voluntary surrender due to the fear of God in them. You may not understand this. And Hanny, The Holy Prophet is the best example of mankind, you can only know this if you truly care to find out without bias. Some of our detractors here came with a mindset to blemish the person of our Rasoul. He never raped anyone, He never punished any one unjustly and infact he encourage patience, tolerance and forgiveness. He is my teacher and i am telling you what he taught me. Any one else can only be subjectively unfair. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 1:45am On Feb 01, 2007 |
he never raped anyone eh? I guess killing a woman's husband and parents and then sleeping with the same woman is one of his noble act? If you say that was a fair act then you do not know right from wrong Volume 5, Book 59, Number 512: Narrated Anas: The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaibar when it was still dark and then said, "Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned." Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet . The Prophet made her manumission as her 'Mahr'. That poor slave girl must have given herself willingly to mohammed after suffering the death of her relatives eh? belotti please stop this non sense |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 2:45am On Feb 01, 2007 |
belloti: One cannot help but ponder at the lies and contradictions that are evident in this appology of a post. So because there was no DNA evidence to convict a man of rape men were free to rape anyone and get away scott free while the women were stoned to death? What if the woman was able to identify her attacker? If armed robbers came and raped your wife (God forbid!), would you merely "encourage" her to "repent" and move on with her life? Would you insist on DNA evidence to prove guilt even if your wife can identify her attacker? Since when did we begin to excuse rape and blame it on women who "insist on voluntary surrender due to the fear of God"? If the prophet to this evil religion, that makes the heart of even the most wicked individual to churn with revulsion, is the best of mankind then we are all doomed! Thank God for Jesus! |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 3:57pm On Feb 01, 2007 |
davidylan: How could she identify her attacker when Sharia says she needs four eyewitnesses for her claim to be valid,in other words,the rapist must be an idiot and carry out his attack in full view in the presence of 4 people,a better place perhaps would be in a market square. The same sharia in Iran also classifies female prisoners as captives and guards are assigned to rape them repeatedly in obedience to allahs commands especially if they are awaiting execution,no virgin must enter jannat,they say, so to ensure this,they must be dehumanised by the slaves of allah before they eventually meet their untimely death. You don't hear any Muslims carrying placards to demonstrate about this beastly behaviour on their fellow humans but will troop out en masse to protest cartoons drawn of the same individual who instituted this barbaric acts. How hipocritical!! |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 4:07pm On Feb 01, 2007 |
You notice how the womens dressing is geared towards not arousing the males. They have to cover up to the ankles and wrists,in some sharia countries the outfit must be black (like perpetual mourners),lower their gaze,not be seen outside without a male relative,need permission to leave the house or travel,not work outside the home,not drive or have a voice and God forbid if anyman should capture her and rape her,she is also blamed for bringing it upon herself and could be killed for defiling the family name for allowing herself to be raped. At what point does that soceity realise that men are responsible for their actions rather than the likes of bellotti giving us these excuses. If the man should go free for lack of evidence,why should be woman be punished? How insane!!! |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by belloti(m): 5:11pm On Feb 01, 2007 |
Baby, believe me or not, a muslim woman feels much more better up with herself than you do. She is more at peace with herself, more secured and definitely much more happier than you are. If you have any one around you, try asking her. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 5:27pm On Feb 01, 2007 |
belloti: Continue your wild flight of fancy! Yeah the muslim women in Saudi Arabia feel more secure than American women since they cannot vote, are not eligible to hold ID cards, will never know the luxury of being able to drive neither can they go to their neighbours house without the permission of a male! Yep, she definitely feels more secure! How much more peace can a woman have when she knows she can be hanged for being raped? Wow! If only my female cousins knew the peace and wisdom in islam!  |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 6:01pm On Feb 01, 2007 |
what the "happy" Islamic woman had to say. [b]Being born and brought up in a traditional Moslem family and faced all the disadvantages. We are not allowed to study in a co-education schools and colleges and if separate college for women is not available we have to discontinue our studies. We are neither allowed to talk to men (other than close relatives) nor allowed to participate in social gatherings. Even when we go out occasionally and we have to observe ‘PURDAH’ system (Covering our entire body with special black dress). All in the name of Islam and Allah. Still, I could not understand the logic behind all this. If it is a sin for a woman to talk to a man then it should equally be a sin for a man to talk to a woman. But, there seems no restriction for men. Why should a woman observe purdah system (veil, hijab)? Is it to prevent men from looking at her with evil intentions? If looking with evil intention is a sin then the sinner should be punished not the victim; or is it devised to save men from not committing the sin? Then what prevents these men from looking at non-Moslem women? If some men have evil intentions, they will have it regardless of we wearing purdah or not. It would be more reasonable to declare that having ‘Evil Intention’ is a Sin and if anyone commits it he should be punished instead of asking women to wear purdah. If a woman talks to a man (who is not a close relative) can’t it be other than a physical relation? Isn’t it degrading for women to be treated like a sexual object and not as a person? Are Moslem women dedicated to their kitchens? Can’t they work outside? Can’t they have their careers? Why shouldn’t they mingle freely will classmates, colleagues or for that matter any outsider. Can’t Islam distinguish social gathering of men and women from sexual relations? Then why is the prohibition for social gathering of men and women? Some Moslems confuse the absence of purdah with indecent exposure. In fact both are totally different issues. Islam cannot treat men or women equally on the basis that women are less intelligent. Even if we agree that women are less intelligent, for argument sake, why should this make her ‘less equal’? Then it is discriminating against intelligence (In the past, same argument was extended to justify slavery stating that some races are more intelligent that other races hence entitled for less rights). As per Islam the testimonies of two women is equal to one man (Even though the woman is a University Professor or a Doctor still she is considered less intelligent than an illiterate male!!). The criterion here is not intelligence but gender. See the thread of logic. First argument is ‘ Less legal rights to less intelligent people’ Second argument is ‘Woman is less intelligent than man’ therefore she should have fewer rights than man. Many Moslem fundamentalists state that even ‘Scientifically’ an average women is less intelligent than average man, so are average person of a particular race is more intelligent than average person of another race, average person of a country is more intelligent than average person of another country. The idea of average intelligence can be applied to gender, race, color, country, region etc. to justify any garbage. The less we talk about polygamy the better. No sane person considers this as an equal treatment to women. If many Moslems think that social gatherings of men and women, absence of purdah, equal legal status to men leads to wide spread immorality and indiscriminate sexual relation, nothing is more foolish than this. If these people talk of morality, in what way ‘Temporary marriage’ of Islam is different from prostitution. Last but not the least where is the equality when a woman is not allowed to go to the place of worship along with her family even with the so-called purdah!!! The ultimate pity is that the Moslem women are made to accept all this in the name of Islam and Allah.[/b] |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 6:07pm On Feb 01, 2007 |
that muslim woman is more secure than the average western woman! Belloti must be wondering how islam has made him sound so foolish! I cant imagine that in this day and age we still have those whose intellect has been so bastardised by maurading journey-men calling themselves prophets! |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by belloti(m): 10:28am On Feb 02, 2007 |
Who do you call free western women, David? The abused back up dancers for Snoop or 50 cents? The almost always naked madonna with a heavy cross dangling on her neck or the insensitive Angelina Jolie who dropped her fathers name leaving him wailing? Is that the moral you are teaching your christian siblings?. Its quite unfortunate that apart from diffusing your cultural and traditional heritage to crave for western antics, you are still feeling cool about your new so-callede secular mentality. i think you are a lost sheep and you dont count a dime in the calculation of your new adopted western lords. A muslim woman see herself as a partner and understand her roles very well. This muslim women you talk so much about like some aliens are actually our mothers, wives and sisters and somehow you think you love them more than we do when you dont even have love for your roots. Its so absurd how you twist an issue to potray your utter ignorance and gaping foolishness. David, you are a disappointment. am sorry about it but you are making me feel that way. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by barikade: 10:56am On Feb 02, 2007 |
@belloti, The ladies you see on MTV and others who shamelessly parade themselves have nothing to do with Christianity. Even in Madonna's case, her brazen ridicule of the Cross testifies to her anti-Christian stance; and I'm sure if she or anyone else attempts/attempted something like that about Islam, the Qur'an and Muhammad, you guys would have shown her how secure she is - by hunting for her head! I'm deeply concerned about the plight of Muslim women in Afghanistan who are daily exposed to inhumane treatment from Muslim men! Pakistan is no better as a Muslim society where Muslim women are raped and still have to be punished by the Islamic law! These are not isolated cases outside Islam; and I haven't seen you address those situations that spell reality in typical Muslim cultures. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by belloti(m): 1:30pm On Feb 02, 2007 |
Barkade, why is your radar solely focus on muslims society? Have you seen the ethnic cleansing of muslims in Bosnia just recently? Ever heard of the rape in Congo? and other atrocities elsewhere. Try being fair next time. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 3:08pm On Feb 02, 2007 |
belloti: 1. The above mentioned individuals have NOTHING to do with the christian faith. In fact had they been living in muslim communities they would long have lost their heads! 2. The above mentioned women are a tiny minority out of a large pool of free and independent women! 3. Christian values are radically different from western values, dont attempt to muddle both in order to get a cheap shot at christianity. 4. At least such women are free to choose what lifestyle fits them! That is what freedom of expression is all about, at least they are far better than your "mothers, sisters, wives" who have no rights to themselves! How they choose to live their lives is none of my business! belloti: A muslim woman sees herself a partner to whom? How can she be a "partner" when her testimony is half that of the starkest illiterate of men and she has to provide 4 witnesses too prove rape against her male attacker? What of the muslim women "partners" in prison who are systematically raped by guards since allah commands that no virgin must enter al jaanat? "Partners" you mean? Not even in rural Kano can the women claim to be partners to their Lords whom they call husbands! They are no better than sexual slaves! belloti: If i am a disappointment, i wonder what you will refer to urself! You have been a bundle of contradiction, double speak, lies, hypocrisy and everything wrong about islam from day 1 What you are really sorry about is the fact that others choose not to allow the wool to be pulled over their eyes but to see your evil religion for what it really is! belloti: The rape in Congo has nothing to do with christianity nor secular lifestyle either. It is a product of war! In Afhanistan, Kano, Saudi Arabia, Iran e.t.c. women are raped not as war booties but as sexual slaves who are then meant to be hanged for being sexually abused! Ethnic cleansing of muslims in Bosnia? How long ago was that? Did those involved tell you they were doing it in Jesus name? |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by barikade: 4:28pm On Feb 02, 2007 |
@belloti, belloti: Of course, I was trying to be fair in just precisely the way you arrogated the likes of "back up dancers for Snoop or 50 cents. . . Madonna . . . and Angelina Jolie" had anything to do with Christianity. How is it that when you make for an open-air obsequiousness, then it becomes tyrannical to apply the same rules to your case? |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by belloti(m): 4:57pm On Feb 02, 2007 |
Barkade, atleast you sound more sensible that the little david. But come to think of it, are we not all talking about some aberrations in the society with nothing to do with religious doctrines? Ofcourse christianity cant sanction madonna's attitude just like islam can order me to rape or abuse anyone. We need to understand these very well because as a christian i dont see how you are practically better than me or vice versa. Forget about the quotes and misquotes of david and other loud mouth like him. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 5:08pm On Feb 02, 2007 |
belloti: I'm honestly laughing in greek! I notice how muslim appologists like you and Olabowale are quick to "forget about . . ." those of us who take your ridiculous posts to shreds revealing them for the empty lies that they are. 1. Madonna has NEVER claimed to be a christian, whatever attitude she puts up has nothing to do with christianity. It is desperate drowning men like you who cleverly try to substitute secular lifestyle with christianity because that is the only avenue by which you can at least have a basis to attack the bible. In Islam, muslims are EXPRESSLY ORDERED or ENCOURAGED to kill, rape and abuse their victims usually women! Stop being partial with the truth. 2. Your attempt at "reasoning" rings hollow! It is but empty rhetoric employed to give you a false air of intelligence. 3. To label islamically sanctioned atrocities as merely "societal aberations" is trying to paper over a gaping crack! Rape, murder, violence all have EVERYTHING to do with islam as a doctrine, it has been shown times without number that those who do such are actually doing it in the name of one certain allah. These cannot be weighed on the same scale as the nude hiphop dancers! |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by belloti(m): 5:15pm On Feb 02, 2007 |
David, dont you see how you maliciously over simplify your analogy? If we go by your postulations, then i should probably be looking out for who to kill or rape rather hanging out in my office chatting with you on my broadband. Does that make sense to you? Cant you for a moment be reasonable? |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 5:39pm On Feb 02, 2007 |
belloti: I notice a trend here. Those sitting on the fence who attempt to paper over your gaping discrepancies are hailed as being "reasonable" while those who show you up for your hypocritical lies are tagged as "malicious". That you are not hanging out right now looking for a woman to rape does not change anything. Osama Bn Laden was once a respectable young university graduate before allah called him into the ministry of "violence"! The real danger in islam is not the bellicose few who go about threatening to cut off our necks, it is in those who pretend to be liberal and understanding while waitiing for a moment of vulnerability to pounce on the innocent! Afterall Mohammed once enjoined his slaves to form a truce with the enemy and then break it as soon as the enemies back was turned! |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 6:44pm On Feb 02, 2007 |
Did Mohammed rape captured slaves and encourage his followers to do so ? Did he kill those who disagreed with him? Did he order infidels killed ? Did allah allow him to sleep with anyone he wished? Did he break covenants? Did allah say women were properties,tilths? Belotti I'm sure you know the answers to all those questions. Your mindset of equating anything western to be Christian is so wrong,you're no different from the haters of the west in that regard. You'll call snoop dog and Madonna Christians because they are Americans,how uninformed,I thought we had gone through this before. The congolese rapes,how many were done as biblical injunctions? Any allegations we've made here of Muslims are taken right out of your noble Koran and hadiths where Mohammed actually did those things and asked his followers to do same. That you,Mr belotti will not rape or kill(Thank God) does not make those Muslims that do, abberations to the Muslim faith when it's been proven that Islam sanctions such actions. Like I said earlier,if some actions of Muhammed are of concern to you,sorry he was not a good example but if you regard him as the perfect example then you must be prepared to accept that some of those actions you detest ( like rape and murder) were his specialty. Think on these things. |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 6:51pm On Feb 02, 2007 |
belloti: and when the ethnic cleansing started how many "christian countries" were jubilating? How many carried placards,burning flags, dancing and chanting the Christian version of allahu akhbar Who were the ones that went to the aid of those being cleansed. what country today harbors most of the refugees from that war? You see how you consistently compare apples and oranges!! |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 4:24am On Feb 03, 2007 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT031csTNcE&mode=related&search= There are still those who know right from wrong, may the head hunters not see him Amen |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by barikade: 10:25am On Feb 03, 2007 |
@babyosisi, babyosisi: I'm amazed at your investigative skills, and want to thank you for that link. Here are some very disturbing issues that caught my attention in that interview with Iraqi Politician Iyad Jamal Al-Din - Serious Question for Arabic anti-Israel Interests: #1. "How come Israel is not using the Arabs as a pretext for delaying its democratic development, its free economy and its free press?" Other Comments: #2. . . . "we have it all. Nevertheless, we have backward, tyrannical, and dictatorial regimes, and the people readily accept this. There is no real demand for democracy in Arab countries." #3. "Some people whine about Iraq's natural resources, and about its oil. They say that America has come to plunder Iraq's resources. I ask them: Were Iraq's resources ever yours? Did you ever benefit from these resources?" #4. Our countries are rich, yet our peoples are poor [sounds like he was making a case for Nigeria?  ]#5. "Islam has various interpretations. Some of these interpretations are completely divorced from humanity, let alone from islam itself. The well-known ideology of accusing others of heresy is an ideology of terrorism." #6. "Who turned Al-Zarqawi into a criminal murderer? Who?. . . He began to go to the mosque, and the imam got hold of him, and turned him into what he is. . . We face a bloodthirsty religion, or rather, a bloodthirsty interpretation of the religion. This is the truth." |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by gbadex1(m): 11:02am On Feb 03, 2007 |
@ bari_kade: lol, an Arab has come to the realization and truth. Like when Neo left the matrix. . . . |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 1:33am On Feb 05, 2007 |
an excerpt from the testimony of a sharia enforcer who became a Christian. My world came crashing down with this loss. I tried to concentrate on my work, but became more and more frustrated for lack of proper answers. (For instance, a rape required 4 witnesses to convict the rapist, which is not generally possible or likely, so I always had to let the rapist go free, and at times, the same rapist was brought to court, having raped another girl, and without the 4 witnesses, I was paralysed, and had to let the rapist go free again. Innocent young women’s lives were destroyed in the name of Islam, and knowing him to be the actual rapist, yet Islam did not permit me to see justice done. Worse, if the Islamic court did not think it to be a rape, then the victim gets stoning to death for getting pregnant out of wedlock). |
| Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise) by Nobody: 1:36am On Feb 05, 2007 |
the testimony continues In the Quran, Sura 2.106 and 16.101, Allah says he re-edited the verses in the Quran and abrogated other verses for better ones. If Allah is God, then he did not need to change what he wrote in the first instance, because it should have been perfect. But re-writing the Quran seems to be not God to me and Allah is just as a man, making corrections to his own work. (This Allah could have used a lot of ‘Liquid Paper’). Who can ever believe, that Allah needs to correct his own work – but this is exactly what Allah says in these Suras of the Quran. In Sura 11.114, 17.78-79, 20.130, & 30.17-18 of the Quran Allah says every muslim must pray 3 times a day. But in the Hadith it says 5 times a day. Couldn’t Allah make up his mind? Why this contradiction? |
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