@tkb147
EFCC can't touch him, have you forgotten your pastor and OBJ are close pals?
"Be ye not equally yoked with unbelievers,What has light got to do with darkness" -is that not what the bible said?.
But your pastor yoked himself, infact almost married the man so he can share the loot. . . .
Your pastor is a goat and you the DEMON tempting and misleading him are a BIGGER GOAT!

REAL TRUTH:

For all NL and Nigerians:
Now know this,,Joel Olstein is a popular pastor in the US and the world,,,he recently made a mistake in his speech/uterances,,,do you know what happened next? His members demanded he should go to the public and refrain the statement he made,,and he did just that,,thats the humility am talking about.
More than the above, just last year,,Revd Wright who happens to be Obama's pastor for 20 years,,,made a statement that boils down to racisms which ultimately would have affected Obama's bid for presidency,,the Revd Wright for that singular mistake was fired(sacked) from the church and Obama eventually resigned from attending that church,,,Simply because his pastor made a blunder! Though the Revd tried apologising but it was to late.
Now my question is this,,can both scenerio ever happened in Nigeria?the answer is NO !! Reason being that Nigerians have been so badly boxed into RELIGION,,,,U MUST NOT QUESTION UR PASTOR,BISHOP,GO etc,,,to me that is arrant nonesense and unscriptural
Again,,I ask the question,,,why have we not heard Pastor Adeboye making statement concerning the Jet? One thing am trying 2 prove is that as human beings,,we re all prone to mistakes,,,and what we should do is to apologise appropriate when we make such mistakes,,,ur Pastor,Bishop,GO,,etc are all fallible and prone to mistakes,,,That is why the WHITES would always be ahead of the BLACKS in almost everything,,,In US,,U would see politicians,pastors apologising publicly when they make any mistakes,,,and they re eventually forgiven,,,

fck u tudor
do you know what that means?
It means go and hang

KunleOshob:

That is in the US, in Nigeria our men of god are demi gods and they can do no wrong, they are infallible and superior to preachers in any other country on this planet hence they can't be corrected by mere men.

LMFAO!

DEMON no weapon fashioned against me shall PROSPER!
Jehovah god shall hang the demons by the gallows prepared for me like he did for modechiah against haman! Go back to HELL DEMON and stop tempting our daddy g.o to steal!!

debosky:

Why should Adeboye respond to frivolous articles published by some newspaper articles who are not even sure of what they are writing? One second it's a private jet for Adeboye, next it's for the church, next it's by a front. . . which is which? In my opinion, the jet issue lies squarely in the realm of speculation, and most people will not respond to speculation for the fun of it.

On the other hand, text messages purportedly sent by him with his name were circulating, so there was every reason to discountenance those as not originating from himself. That issue directly affected his members to whom he has responsibility.

There is no problem in asking a question - we all have different prespectives and see things differently.

I see Tudor is trying to convert human beings again? I guess the pigs and goats turned him down.  

Bleat louder I say!  

noetic2:

u dont have a point.

Adeboye is a public figure. the public has a right for clarifications of issues emanating about him.
I still cant figure out why he responded to the texts and not the jet. something seems fishy, and no one has been able to rightly explain it.

sparta:

@post

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Judge not so that you will not be judged for the measure you use in judging others will be used to judge you.

Let us learn from King David, he never said a bad word to Saul despite Saul's failing, he left the matter to God. Let God be the judge of his own servants, he has not made any one of us their judge. The bible says we should not rebuke an elder.

The angel that came to take moses body did not even curse satan, he said the Lord rebuke you satan because he (the angel) was once under Lucifer's authority. He left the judgement to God.

All these bashings on Pastor Adeboye is too much, we need to be careful. We should not allow pride and too much zeal to get in the way of things.

The bible says vengeance is mine, i will repay, says the Lord'

we nee to leave it at that.

Note: I am not a redeemite but i believe in respect for authority!

sparta:

@post

Judge not so that you will not be judged for the measure you use in judging others will be used to judge you.

Let us learn from King David, he never said a bad word to Saul despite Saul's failing, he left the matter to God. Let God be the judge of his own servants, he has not made any one of us their judge. The bible says we should not rebuke an elder.

The angel that came to take moses body did not even curse satan, he said the Lord rebuke you satan because he (the angel) was once under Lucifer's authority. He left the judgement to God.

All these bashings on Pastor Adeboye is too much, we need to be careful. We should not allow pride and too much zeal to get in the way of things.

The bible says vengeance is mine, i will repay, says the Lord'
we nee to leave it at that.
Note: I am not a redeemite but i believe in respect for authority!

debosky:

He has a right to choose whether to respond to speculations as well - the 'rights' of the public do not trump his personal rights.

If you can't figure out why he would respond to a message purportedly sent by him (with his name attached) then I don't know what to say to you.

There is no 'right' explanation beyond what I have given - one case was speculation (rightly ignored) while the other was misrepresentation using his name, which needed to be corrected.

noetic2:

does the jet also not involve his name? why would he buy a jet is a poverty stricken nation? why did he not make clarifications about the jet? is it because he really bought the jet?

in fact he should have responded to the jet and not the text, cos the text made people pray but the jet made people make comments that do not glorify God. Adeboye was far on the wrong.

debosky:

How does the jet involve his name? Newspaper speculations?? That the next day the same newspapers claimed it wasn't owned by him? Why should he engage in mindless speculation when the 'accusers' cannot even make up their minds whether it was Adeboye's or the church's? Aimless speculation does not deserve any response
People say things that don't glorify God daily - should Adeboye respond to those?  What about those claiming he is friends with Ibori? He should come out to deny every bad thing people say about him.

The text purportedly said he sent a message about prayer request out to people - a fundamental part of his ministry as a pastor. It behooves him to clear up any speculation about that.

No document has been brought out with Adeboye's name on any jet manifest, no evidence whatsoever. Who responds to speculation??

noetic2:

The text was also a speculation. until adeboye spoke up everyone believed he sent the text, but because he did  not send the text he made clarifications.

why did he not apply the same logic to the jet? up till today every one believes something is fishy about the jet, it is only adeboye that can make a clarification, yet he has refused to. is this because he actually bought the jet and is now ashamed of himself? is it because he is afraid of the reaction of his members?

did u read the follow up report on thisday. That was a ridiculous attempt at a cover up. If adeboye could refute a simple text message because it was claimed that it originated from him, there is absolutely no reason why he should not refute the claims that he bought a jet.

which would have been more harm to adeboye's personality or ministry, is it the fact that he sent a multiple prayer request text or the fact that he bought a jet.

There is no big deal if he sent or did not send the text. But it is a big deal if he bought that jet.

why are u resorting to documents? All adeboye has to do is to speak up on the matter and make clarifications. what is he scared of?

why did it take him 2 years until obasanjo left power to speak up on third term? what was he scared of?

debosky:

Text message: Pray for your family - Adeboye

Newspaper speculation: Adeboye buys jet, no wait, his church members buy a jet. wait it's 50m, no wait it's an old jet of 3m.

The text was purported to come from HIM, effectively signed by him. What similar evidence has been seen to link Adeboye with the jet except speculations?

Even if he makes any comment, do you think the speculation will end? NO - people will say he is lying or denying it. There is no point going on about an issue which is pure speculation.

So who is covering up? Thisday? Oh I guess the next thing is for Adeboye to come out and tell you that Thisday's article is not a cover up? Wait - Adeboye owns Thisday and is using Nduka Obaigbena as a front!

If I publish an article on my website saying Adeboye owns a house on the North Pole, I guess he should also come and defend it?
The text of course - If Adeboye wants to communicate prayers to his church, he does so through his Pastors - obviously this didn't go through that route and needs to be dispelled as false. The jet issue was NOT RAISED BY MEMBERS but my mischevious press elements. If his members require a clarification, let them speak to their pastors or to Adeboye - it's none of your business.
That is a matter of opinion - Adeboye clearly takes the spiritual wellbeing of his flock and the spiritual messages as more important. A phantom jet without any evidence of linkage to Adeboye need not be defended nor even responded to.

Clarifications on RUMOURS? Why should he? Why pick this rumour? What other rumours are out there? Should he now make it a duty to be responding to the news peddlers who have no evidence and are not his constituency?
A distraction - is Adeboye a politician? Must he speak according to YOUR timeline? Last I checked, he can talk about whatever he wants whenever he wants. You neither elected him nor attend his church nor play any role in his ministry. I see no reason for you to dictate to him when he can or cannot speak as he chooses.

When RCCG bought over a defunct TV station and used it to start up Dove Media, was it hidden? When they built their auditorium in Texas was it hidden? When they acquired a License for a University was it hidden?

If there is anything that merits disclosure it will be passed across as and when due - responding to baseless media speculation is not what they specialise in.

sparta:

@ sonye

You are right, i rarely visit the religion section of this forum because it has been taken over by  pessimistS. They never see anything good in what other people do.

noetic2:

do u actually think before u write this things?

debosky:

Do you think before you compare a text message bearing a Pastor's name directed to his flock to self-contradicting rumours in newspapers ?

For the record, even the 'response' by Adeboye was to his church members, not to the 'public'. His constituency remains the church - anyone who is a member and is concerned about him allegedly buying a jet can approach him through the proper channels.

Including third term in this discussion shows how much grasping at straws you are engaging in.