A-town:

I don't agree with all of you.
As a matter of fact, this is the only reasonable plan that i have seen from this administration.
University education is not for everybody. Free education up to secondary school stage is enough.
If you really want to go to college, then you should have the brain for it. If you do, there are bursaries and scholarships available.
The reason we have the type of college grads that we have today is because 99% of them used EXPO to get into school.
What is the point of graduating 1 million students every year when you only have 100,000 jobs available.

If you feel you really need to go to college and you are poor and not smart enough, go get a loan.
This may seem harsh but is the best thing that will happen to the education system.
Tertiary education in Nigeria should not be FREE.

zerocool:

@A-Town; i can see frm ur post u are mentally disturbed & need to be remanded in the psychiatry hospital. Even in some european countries where the system is working; electricity,water, employment, politics etc, cost of education is FREE FOR FOREIGNERS. This country is FU#kD, and i kip telling pple i doubt if it will ever advance, not in this generational lifetime.

Quard Core:

@ A-town I dont blame you.You sure talk like a U.S base Nigerian. Abi you be JJC? Get loan from where? Which Nigeian bank or Nigerian govt go give you loan? I can bet my last penny that you did not go through our university system, if not, you would not have responded the way you did. Our educational system is nothing to writew home about. Why do you think our degrees are not regarded outside this country except when you want to further your education(at least yo have to prove yourself).

TheSeeker:

Another PDP miscreant on the block. You say free education up to the secondary school level should be free, where's the freeness? If people want to go to college, they should have brain for it, and what has brain got to do with increase in tuition fee? You obviously are the one with brain deficiency here because your point are stupidly incoherent. Where are the scholarships? Where are the places to get loans from? MTN, GLO and other companies are busy dishing out millions to customers for bullshit that aren't worth it instead of giving scholarships in a country that boasts of poor people; so my dear friend, who will give the scholarships here? Huh? What kind of college grads do we have? Tell me. Every company openly employ people with influence and that's the way it is: You don't know anyone, you won't get a job.

There's 100,000 jobs available, who provides them? Who operates JAMB? Who operates WAEC and NECO? If they cheat at these exams, who sells out the exam papers? Quit being stupid and analyze your arguments intelligently.

afam4eva:

What a waste of bandwidth for a retarded post. Even in the west scholarship is offered to people based on need.

debosky:

Nonsense - in a country where you have virtually NO benefits from the government, the last remaining hope should be taken away?

If the government was providing roads, hospitals and power to Nigerians, then maybe we would be able to afford tuition fees. But when almost all disposable income is used to provide basic needs that the government should be providing, they have NO RIGHT to dictate fees.

Deal with the basic issues and then maybe we can consider the fees.


PS - whose fault is it that only '100,000 jobs are available'? Is it not the ridiculous government who cannot even supply power/basic infrastructure needed for job creation?

Again I say NONSENSE.

asha 2:

@debosky

You are right you know.At times when i hear people saying only a limited amount of jobs are available in nigeria and there is no need graduating millions i ask whose fault is it?

If there was constant electricity in the country most guys i know probably might be engaged in private biz.Not everyone whats a white collar job or work for someone.

Witi:

@ A-Town: You are suppose to be stoned to death in the Village square. You are a monster.

afam4eva:

I now wonder how much schools like Covenant, babcock, Igbenedion and APTI american university will start collecting. It will be not only foolish but moronic for anyone to pay 180,000 for a crappy education like ours. Instead they will stick with their certificate, afterall there's really no much difference between most graduates that are been churned out on a yearly basis and secondary school leavers.

A-town:


Are you saying the solution is to keep the system the way it is. I repeat NOT EVERYONE IN NIGERIA NEEDS TO GO TO COLLEGE. EVERYONE HAS NEGELECTED TECHNICAL EDUCATION. It is people like you that will come here with a degree in religion and ask about job prospects?
The point is that we have the problem now. A way to solve it has been provided. Would you rather keep the system the way it is.
If acceptance rates into universities drop, irrelevant majors/courses will be dropped. People would not be given useless courses because of Jamb.
The schools will be able to focus more on research. Student population will drop and the standards will become what it was in the 70's
Point proven. Sample of a current system Nigerian Graduate.

TheSeeker:

Another PDP miscreant on the block. You say free education up to the secondary school level should be free, where's the freeness? If people want to go to college, they should have brain for it, and what has brain got to do with increase in tuition fee? You obviously are the one with brain deficiency here because your point are stupidly incoherent. Where are the scholarships? Where are the places to get loans from? MTN, GLO and other companies are busy dishing out millions to customers for bullshit that aren't worth it instead of giving scholarships in a country that boasts of poor people; so my dear friend, who will give the scholarships here? Huh? What kind of college grads do we have? Tell me. Every company openly employ people with influence and that's the way it is: You don't know anyone, you won't get a job.

There's 100,000 jobs available, who provides them? Who operates JAMB? Who operates WAEC and NECO? If they cheat at these exams, who sells out the exam papers? Quit being stupid and analyze your arguments intelligently.

Quard Core:

@ A-town I dont blame you.You sure talk like a U.S base Nigerian. Abi you be JJC? Get loan from where? Which Nigeian bank or Nigerian govt go give you loan? I can bet my last penny that you did not go through our university system, if not, you would not have responded the way you did. Our educational system is nothing to writew home about. Why do you think our degrees are not regarded outside this country except when you want to further your education(at least yo have to prove yourself).

TheSeeker:

No, I don't think he went to school in the US. Even we over here know loan is not feasible in a corruption-ridden country like Nigeria. Everything is about making money at the expense of the poor. He's simply barbaric and lives in Cotonou.

The point is that we have the problem now. A way to solve it has been provided. Would you rather keep the system the way it is.
If acceptance rates into universities drop, irrelevant majors/courses will be dropped. People would not be given useless courses because of Jamb.
The schools will be able to focus more on research. Student population will drop and the standards will become what it was in the 70's

A-town:

Who said they can't offer scholarships based on need here.
Define Bursary!!
Stop comparing the west to Nigeria. We have our own unique problem and we need to solve it.

When will you guys get tired of saying the same thing over and over. Of course the govt has failed to provide basic ammenties.
Are you saying the solution is to keep the system the way it is. I repeat NOT EVERYONE IN NIGERIA NEEDS TO GO TO COLLEGE. EVERYONE HAS NEGELECTED TECHNICAL EDUCATION. It is people like you that will come here with a degree in religion and ask about job prospects?
The point is that we have the problem now. A way to solve it has been provided. Would you rather keep the system the way it is.
If acceptance rates into universities drop, irrelevant majors/courses will be dropped. People would not be given useless courses because of Jamb.
The schools will be able to focus more on research. Student population will drop and the standards will become what it was in the 70's
Point proven. Sample of a current system Nigerian Graduate.

afam4eva:

I don't think this is what u meant earlier.

philip0906:

u just made a good point.cos i'm at babcock and I know how I strugle 2 pay ma fees.so imagine if government increase 2 180000,that is babcock and co will increase 2 850000 and above .chei God help us.
I will advice A-town 2 flee nairaland b4 he is eaten raw.

afam4eva:

In america and the rest of the world they practically beg their citizens to go to school by offering scholarship ranging from merit based and need based but in nigeria the case is different instead of them to encourage people to go to school they scare them away by not admitting them at all, to put insult on top of a very serious injury the're now increasing the fees.

Government should not take the silence of nigerians as stupidity. One day monkey go go market e no go come back.

A-town:

Do you have a reading deficiency of some sort? An increase in fee will deter people who have no business whatsover in college.
I have only stated that loans can be given out to those who feel they have to go to school but don't have the "brain" to get a scholarship.
What does PDP have to do with this?

[/quote]I passed through the system for sure and thats why i know what i'm talking about. What the you call a university graduate that can't write a simple career objective. They need not be in college. There are other things to do instead of wasting time in college.?[quote]

You over where. You better watch your mouth. I just might be the manager that you'll be sending your CV to when you finish school. Don't assume everyone here is a college student. When i was in college in the US you were probably still in diapers.I made a suggestion. Simple enough. Whether it is viable or not is your cup of tea.

I am yet to see anyone with constructive criticism. All you do is shout, curse and blab when anyone proferrs a solution.
Rather than offer your own solution, you babies are just sitting here typing nonsense. I'm waiting for an intellect to come up with some intelligent rebuttals here juh,

A-town:


Flee from a bunch of kids without any form of intuitive reasoning. Please.
By the way, did anyone force you to go to BABCOCK.
The truth is bitter. Being passionate will only result in people making/saying rash decisions.
There is a problem with the university system. Nigeria is graduation more than it can handle.
98% of those is schoo don't deserve to be there.
In 10yrs what will happen to technical jobs like mechanics, carpenters and so forth. No one wants to do this jobs anymore.
The reason is because everyone thinks they need to go to the university even if it means studying RELIGION as someone on this site as shown

TheSeeker:

Let's assume the standards of education will improve -- which I don't believe anyway -- what happens to the larger populace that doesn't have the opportunity of going to school? Do you have an idea that even when school is affordable, we have as many YAHOO BOYS as possible? Do you have an idea how they are spreading all over the country? Do you know how many 419ners we have? Do you know how many armed robbers this will produce? It'll produce more societal ills than the "good" they think they want to do Nigeria.

I'm try so hard not to pounce on you with insults, but has the Nigerian government ever done anything in favor of the poor? Tell me one thing they have done except not to enrich their pockets. So poor people's children will no more go to school and you think that's the best way to revamp education? By the way, you said education is not for everyone, yes, it is not but it's the government's duty to provide it comfortably now, if you choose not to take the opportunity, it's your decision. Not being able to go to college should be a choice, not because of the harsh policy of the government.

Show me an instance of where this kind of policy was used to restore educational sanity? You are definitely delusional and there's no contesting that. Let the government provide more jobs in the technical department and see if there won't be enough people in that area. I see THE NIGERIA POLICE having more workers though. Won't that be an advantage?

By the way, did anyone force you to go to BABCOCK.

asha 2:

@All i get the flow of A-town argurements but some basic infrastructre have to be in place before it can work.

blacksta:

@A town

Check this out / Your theory will only work where you have other training institutions for example apprentice schemes and not everybody wants to go university . I dont know whether u are aware of the situation in Nigeria - Apprentice schemes or similar institutions dont exist.

asha 2:

@All i get the flow of A-town argurements but some basic infrastructre have to be in place before it can work.

presido1:

Who will give out that loan? you or a bank you established while collecting CV in US. Are u not aware that if there is anything like loan it will go to the children of those that are capable of paying the fees(Govt Stolen Fund).

Just like the highlighted.
The highlighted shows that you are not presently in US. How then will you be collecting CV when u are not there.

. You did not make any sense from all your post. The only thing i learnt from your post is that you gain from the system

asha 2:

@All i get the flow of A-town argurements but some basic infrastructre have to be in place before it can work.

A-town:


Do you have a reading deficiency of some sort? An increase in fee will deter people who have no business whatsover in college.
I have only stated that loans can be given out to those who feel they have to go to school but don't have the "brain" to get a scholarship.
What does PDP have to do with this?

TheSeeker:

I agree Nigeria is graduating more than she can handle but that's the responsibility of examination bodies -- that's why they are there. Wasn't it that students will sit for O'Level exams, JAMB and then get admitted to the university? When they found out people are using expos to get through the two stages of exams, they introduced Post-UME. Post-UME is supposed to be tough, but what happens? I hear the rich still buy their way through.

Most people that are in the university aren't supposed to be there especially courtesy of cheating at exams, but what happens to the majority that deserves a place yet, can't afford the fees? I've asked you numerous questions you fail to answer, hence, you can't defend your points wisely.