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Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by ketubah: 5:04pm On Jul 29, 2011
Babe,not sure about bridge having the highest success rate o ,they are a pioneer though i've had a lot of people go to Bridge,Nordica,Nisa etc,what we do not know for sure is how many attempts did they achieve success,i had posted earlier about a friend who was +ve first time at bridge and two days later ,was _ve,the reason Bridge gave was that the linning of her womb was thin.I was so upset cos at the time they started stimulation they should have checked the linning of the womb, i know someone abroad whose Fs had to freeze the embryo cos her linning was so thin and she had to treat that and then asked her to come back for a FET.

That singular stuff with my friend put me off o,after spending 1milla ,so there are so many scenarios ,one thing i tell people is you just need to be informed and i hear bridge does only 2 embryo transfer cos of some Uk regulation,i understand the multiple risk thing but i do not think there's any clinic in Nigeria that has a UK standard yet,regulation is good but we should have a UK standard before we start regulating,UCH london does only Eset(Elective single embryo transfer ) and i hear they have fantastic results.So a lot depends on God,and the expertise of the personnel

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Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by osiyemia: 5:27pm On Jul 29, 2011
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Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 4:48pm On Jul 30, 2011
The success of IVF depends on a lot of factors, not necessarily on the FS.
And the better the surgeon the less painful he's able to make the procedure .
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by osiyemia: 4:57pm On Jul 30, 2011
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Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 10:06pm On Jul 31, 2011
osiyemia:

Pls can you list d factors so we know.Thanks
The common factors as I know them are,
1.egg/Embryo Quality, there are a lot of factors affecting Egg quality,
A, Age and Ovarian reserve--A woman is born with all the eggs she will ever produce.
She uses them up through her
reproductive life and when they are gone, her
reproductive potential ends. It is interesting
that a woman’s eggs are already stored in her
ovaries 6 months before she is born.
In fact, she starts losing her eggs at a furious rate from the get-go such that by the time she is born, more than half of her eggs have already been re-absorbed. By the time she reaches puberty and then start to ovulate her egg population will have dropped from about 5million to less than 1 million.
Another factor is that less than 40% of embryos resulting from fertilization of even young women’s eggs are capable of making a healthy baby.
As women get older, this gets progressively worse, such that by her mid-40’s the number drops to less than
10%.
osiyemia:

Pls can you list d factors so we know.Thanks
The common factors as I know them are,
1.egg/Embryo Quality, there are a lot of factors affecting Egg quality,
A, Age and Ovarian reserve--A woman is born with all the eggs she will ever produce.
She uses them up through her
reproductive life and when they are gone, her
reproductive potential ends. It is interesting
that a woman’s eggs are already stored in her
ovaries 6 months before she is born.
In fact, she starts losing her eggs at a furious rate from the get-go such that by the time she is born, more than half of her eggs have already been re-absorbed. By the time she reaches puberty and then start to ovulate her egg population will have dropped from about 5million to less than 1 million.
Another factor is that less than 40% of embryos resulting from fertilization of even young women’s eggs are capable of making a healthy baby.
As women get older, this gets progressively worse, such that by her mid-40’s the number drops to less than
10%.















2 Poor Uterine Receptivity , he uterine factors are just as critical to the equation as the quality ofthe embryo. There are a number of factors that contribute to the receptivity of the uterus including the contour of the uterine cavity,
thickness of the uterine lining,
3 Embryo Transfer,

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Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by lullabi: 12:54pm On Aug 02, 2011
Hi, Dr Haastrup, I went for Hvs and Urine mcs and it says i have scanty growth of Candida Albicans, yeast +++. My blood preg test was -ve. now my af showed up yesterday. Does it mean i have not been infected with the bacteria my husband had(is it possible). So i dont have to be treated for that only for the yeast?
What should we do next concerning TTC, i really am confused now. Pls help



Arlly, weve not heard from you for a while, just hoping you r okay. Mypeace, hope you r fine too.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 6:18pm On Aug 02, 2011
lullabi:

Hi, Dr Haastrup, I went for Hvs and Urine mcs and it says i have scanty growth of Candida Albicans, yeast +++. My blood preg test was -ve. now my af showed up yesterday. Does it mean i have not been infected with the bacteria my husband had(is it possible). So i dont have to be treated for that only for the yeast?
What should we do next concerning TTC, i really am confused now. Pls help



Arlly, weve not heard from you for a while, just hoping you r okay. Mypeace, hope you r fine too.
Yeah you both need to get treated .
Your gyn might give you a broad spectrum. Antibiotics.
And he might also do another test to confirm complete clearance .
As for the TTC let's chat or call me so we can talk privately and if need be for consult .
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 3:01am On Aug 03, 2011
Stress can be a factor with infertility and has
been shown to decrease
pregnancy rates in IVF patients, however, I do
not think that it is adequate
to be a cause of sustained infertility. Therefore,
I don’t think that is
the issue.
Based on the information you gave, I don’t think
you have completed an
infertility evaluation. Just for your reference,
these are the tests
usually done in a basic infertility evaluation:
Cycle day #2 or 3 hormone panel (FSH, LH,
Estradiol, Prolactin, TSH)
Hysterosalpingogram
Hysteroscopy or Hysterosonogram
Cycle day # 20,21 or 22 Progesterone level (mid-
luteal phase)
Cycle day #26,27 or 28 Endometrial biopsy for
Endometrial dating
Pelvic ultrasound, expecially to view ovaries and
adnexa.
Antral follicle
count is sometimes done with this scan.
Semen Analysis (Repeat to verify if the first one
is abnormal)
Laparoscopy to evaluate the pelvis.
First, I think you need to know that you now
have at least one recognized
reason for your inabiility to become pregnant,
and that is an abnormal semen
analysis. A “morphology” of 3% is a severe
abnormal semen analysis. It
should be 33% or more. That means that only 3%
of to total count are
actually normal sperm and only those sperm have
the potential to fertilize
an egg. So how many is that? Take the total
count and multiply by 0.03
then multiply that by the motility percentage
and that will give you the
number of available sperm. If that number is less
than 20 million but
higher than 10 million, then IUI would be a potential
treatment option. If
it is less than 10 million, then ICSI in conjunction
with IVF would be the
treatment of choice.
Of course, before making
this decision, a second semen
analysis should be done to verify the result.
Many fertility specialists,
including myself, believe that the semen analysis
is merely a reflection of
the sperm potential. After all, the function of a
sperm is to fertilize
your egg, but that test does not exist. It has
been shown in IVF cycles
prior to the development of ICSI, that when
there is an abnormal semen
analysis, there is often a functional defect i.e.
the sperm do not fertilize
well. That is why ICSI was developed. With that in
mind, it might be
better to proceed with IVF and ICSI. In light of
this fact, I don’t think
that the laparoscopy is necessary because IVF
will bypass the normal
pathway.

Secondly, I think that you need to see a fertility
specialist. You need one
that does ALL levels of evaluation and
treatment, including IVF. If you do
to someone that does less, they will often
defer to the treatment that they
can do rather than refer you to a higher
specialist. IUI in this case would
probably not be worthwhile and would waste
time and money.
Just like Gynecologists who say
they do infertility but in
reality can do only a small portion of infertility,
Someone who has done additional
training in Male infertility can then do additional testing if need be
and make additional treatment
recommendations if there are any. But, word of
caution. Most male
infertility will require ICSI with IVF. There are very
few male infertility
cases that can be treated with medication or
surgery, so going to see a Male
infertility specialist would be more to explore all
options and do all
testing, rather than hope for a treatment less
than ICSI.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by udoka2: 3:26pm On Aug 03, 2011
Hello Doctor
l have a colleague who aborted 4months pregancy in 2006, and since then she has not seen her period. However if she takes drug to induce period, it comes, but without drugs she doesnt see it.  she is married now since 2008, still same problem. The whole thing is making her to add unecessary weight on her waistline.  Pls what can she do?  She has tried gyneas. without success. they most times place her on family planning to correct it, while on it the period will flow. it stops as soon as she stops the family planning or drug to induce it.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 2:33am On Aug 04, 2011
udoka2:

Hello Doctor
l have a colleague who aborted 4months pregancy in 2006, and since then she has not seen her period. However if she takes drug to induce period, it comes, but without drugs she doesnt see it.  she is married now since 2008, still same problem. The whole thing is making her to add unecessary weight on her waistline.  Pls what can she do?  She has tried gyneas. without success. they most times place her on family planning to correct it, while on it the period will flow. it stops as soon as she stops the family planning or drug to induce it.
Its quite unfortunate but I think your friend might e suffering from a condition know as Asherman's Syndrome . Its a post abortion complication.

Asherman's Syndrome
causes a decrease in menstrual flow, abdominal
pain, cessation of menstruation and infertility.

In
females with the disorder, such symptoms and
findings occur due to inflammation of the lining of
the uterus (endometritis) and the development
of bands of scar tissue abnormally joining
portions of the uterus.
The scar tissue becomes
so dense that is impossible for a baby to grow.
The condition can be very mild, or it can be
severe and irreversibly damage the uterine
cavity.
These intrauturine damages
can occur spontaneously or as a result of
trauma to the uterus, such as surgical scraping or cleaning of tissue from the uterine wall (popularly known as
known as  D & C .)

Tell her to talk to me privately I will see her or make referral as appropriate.
She would need surgery and fertility treatment.

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Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by Beetle: 10:12am On Aug 04, 2011
Ketubah,

I beg to differ UCH doesn't do ESET, it's the NHS side that does that. Most Fertility clinic in UK puts back 2 apart from NHS that puts back 1.


Hope everyone is doing good!
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by Beetle: 10:14am On Aug 04, 2011
Udoka, Your friend needs to go for Hysteroscopy to remove all the scarring
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by osiyemia: 10:49am On Aug 04, 2011
lipsrsealed
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by ketubah: 10:56am On Aug 04, 2011
Beetle,

i did not know that,i already consulted with them last year and they said it was going to be Eset cos of my age and medical history
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 10:58am On Aug 04, 2011
osiyemia:

Hi dr,if you have one blocked tube and it does not contain toxic fluid is there any need to clip or remove the tube for ivf
The decision to clip or remove lies with the surgeon with the patients consent.
But be well informed before deciding on what you want.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by Arlington(f): 2:51am On Aug 06, 2011
Dr Haastrup has taken over the thread?
Where is everyone ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh General Abiop,my peace stages everyone where una don waka go ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I am guilty as well lipsrsealed
Hope everyone is doing ok.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by Nobody: 7:33am On Aug 06, 2011
Me , iam still around oh!!
hi everyone smiley
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by oduamine: 7:36am On Aug 06, 2011
dr haastrup should start another thread not here pls.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 7:55am On Aug 06, 2011
oduamine:

dr haastrup should start another thread not here pls.
Point of correction Oduamine, am not here to take over the thread . I don't have to.
Do you have anything against me or the fact that I guidevpeople and educate them on what to do concerning their fertility issues?
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by oduamine: 5:22pm On Aug 06, 2011
@dr haastrup i dont av anytin against u,just that this thread is meant to bring ttc 2geda,to share our pains,help n heal eachoda.
If u want to give advice on fertility u can do it on anoda thread.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 6:06pm On Aug 06, 2011
oduamine:

@dr haastrup i dont av anytin against u,just that this thread is meant to bring ttc 2geda,to share our pains,help n heal eachoda.
If u want to give advice on fertility u can do it on anoda thread.
Share pains?, heal each other?
Is that a way out?, Pity party or knowledge about what you have and a way to get treatment and where to get one.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by camrygmail: 12:47am On Aug 08, 2011
Hmm. I think dr haastrup and other members have the right to post and respond to questions. ( as long as they are not breaking any group rule, which as far as i am aware the group as no rules)

I do not need a pity party and I do not believe that the dr is taking over the disussion thread in anywa. Just my two cents.(if u don't feel the same way, I can understand that)

@odu if u want talk about something else please feel free to post and am sure everyone who has an opinion will respond to ur post (even if they r a doctor Or not) for some of the ladies that post questions and get a response from dr. Am sure they are glad , they enjoy the support, which is the reason they joined the group.


. I wish everyone well and I pray we all get our miracles.

Shalom!
.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by osiyemia: 7:38am On Aug 08, 2011
lipsrsealed
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by member67023: 10:01am On Aug 08, 2011
Another Fertility forum that may help TTCs

http://www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by Rondo1: 1:29pm On Aug 08, 2011
Just joining and finding right answers to questions.

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Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 9:11am On Aug 09, 2011
Frequency of intercourse. And its effect

The simple rule is - as often as you like; but the
more often you do the better your
chances.
Thus, for couples who get intimate only on
weekends (often the price they pay for a heavy work schedule) the chance of Being Intimate on the fertile preovulatory day is only one-third that
of couples who are Intimate every other day -
which means they may take three times as long to conceive.
I think its much more fun making a baby in your bed room than coming to me! (And think of all the money you’ll be saving !)
Also remember that you cannot "store up"
Fluid, which means that there is really no
advantage to abstaining from sex if you are
trying to conceive.
In this case, more is better,
and in fact studies have shown that fresh
Fluid have a better chance of achieving a
pregnancy than Fluid which have been stored
up for many days.
And for the older woman, Women who are more than 30 and who wish to
postpone childbearing should get their FSH levels checked on Day 3 of their cycle. This is a simple
blood test which allows the doctor to check
your ovarian reserve ( the quantity and quality
of the eggs in your ovaries). A high level
suggests poor ovarian reserve and should be a
wake-up alarm that your biological clock is ticking away rapidly. It's important that this test should be done in a reliable laboratory
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 12:29pm On Aug 09, 2011
LOW SPERM COUNT-in the absence of any medical problem little can be done with conventional therapy to improve the sperm count, today we usually offer
them one of the assisted reproductive
technologies. This might seem unfair , since the
wife is being treated for what is essentially the husband's problem, but the fact of the matter is that there is very little effective therapy for a low sperm count. Since the fertility of the couple is the sum of the fertility potential of both the partners, a male factor problem can often be treated by treating the wife !
The modern
protocol for managing male infertility is based on the man's motile sperm count; and on a simple test, called a sperm survival test.
The sperm are
washed, and their recovery assessed; the
washed sperm are then kept in culture medium in
the incubator for 24 hours and then rechecked.
If there are more than 3 million motile sperm per
ml, this is reassuring. If, however, none of the
sperm is alive after 24 hours, this suggests
that they may be functionally incompetent.
Treatment depends upon how low the count is.
If it is only moderately decreased (total motile
sperm count in the ejaculate being 20 million), it
makes sense to try to improve the fertility
potential of the wife, and the easiest
treatment for men with moderately low sperm
counts is superovulation plus intrauterine
insemination.
If after doing this and trying for 4
treatment cycles (the reason 4 is the "magic"
number is that most patients who are going to
become pregnant with any method will usually do
so within 4 cycles) and if no pregnancy ensues, you
need to go on and explore further alternatives,
such as IVF.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 12:58pm On Aug 09, 2011
The diagnosis of a low sperm count
can be such a blow to one's ego --- it is so
totally unexpected, because it is not associated with other symptoms or signs. Men react differently - but common feelings include anger with the wife and the doctor; resentfulness about having to participate in infertility testing and treatment since they feel having babies is the woman's "job"; loss of self-esteem; and temporary sexual dysfunction such as loss of desire and poor erections.
Many men also feel very guilty that because of "their" medical problem, they are depriving their wife the pleasures of experiencing motherhood.
So he is forced to put up a brave front and show that he doesn't care. Since he is a man, he is not allowed to display his emotions. He is expected to provide a shoulder for his wife to cry on - but he needs to learn to cry alone. However, remember that the urge for fatherhood can be biologically as
strong as the urge for motherhood - and we
should stop treating infertile men as second
class citizens.

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Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by mypearl: 2:06pm On Aug 09, 2011
In Oct 2010 I had a miscarriage. the pain was so bad the Dr had to evacuate with a D&C. Since then i've not ben able to get pregnant again
In June this yr i went for again to be sure nothing was wrong with me. i did pelvic scan, vagina swab test and sampls of blood and urine was taken
i had this very bad smelling vagina discharge. it doent even let me know whn i ovulate.
the result of the test showed yeast and staphilococus infection. no VDR was discovered. i was given diflucan and norfloxacine for 10days and a repeat after a week.
even after the treatment i still have the discharge. lately i have this monor pelvic pain though the pelvic scan scan came up ok
I still feel bad about the miscarriage as my husband was really looking forward to the baby. this delay is really getting to us.
what do i do. lest i forget my husband was treated too.

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Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by drhaastrup1: 3:06pm On Aug 09, 2011
mypearl:

In Oct 2010 I had a miscarriage. the pain was so bad the Dr had to evacuate with a D&C. Since then i've not ben able to get pregnant again
In June this yr i went for again to be sure nothing was wrong with me. i did pelvic scan, womanliness swab test and sampls of blood and urine was taken
i had this very bad smelling womanliness discharge. it doent even let me know whn i ovulate.
the result of the test showed yeast and staphilococus infection. no VDR was discovered. i was given diflucan and norfloxacine for 10days and a repeat after a week.
even after the treatment i still have the discharge. lately i have this monor pelvic pain though the pelvic scan scan came up ok
I still feel bad about the miscarriage as my husband was really looking forward to the baby. this delay is really getting to us.
what do i do. lest i forget my husband was treated too.
[/quot
I'm sorry for your loss and the pain you went through. God in His mercy will remember you.
From the the medical history you gave me.
You could be suffering from Bacterial Vaginosis.p ok
I still feel bad about the miscarriage as my husband was really looking forward to the baby. this delay is really getting to us.
what do i do. lest i forget my husband was treated too.
[/quot
I'm sorry for your loss and the pain you went through. God in His mercy will remember you.
From the the medical history you gave me.
You could be suffering from Bacterial Vaginosis.
It is caused by an overgrowth of bacteria rather than a specific type of bacteria.
Its exposes you to PID (Pelvic inflammatory Disease ) which is the leading cause of infertility and its common among women of child bearing age.
The symptoms you describe are in consistent with the ailment.
Treating your male partner does not stop it from re-occurring.
First if you are douching you need to stop it.
See your Gyn for adequate treatment.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by mypearl: 3:45pm On Aug 09, 2011
Thank you Dr Haastrup
when i first complained about the discharge to my Gyn he waived it off as normal
i went back again and he gave me metronidazole and Clotrimazole. it stopped and came back after a month. he later stepped me up to tinidazole
yet it didnt work.
i cant afford to have a PID. my husband really loves kids i want want to give him some
pls do u have any suggestions of a lasting solution?
i dont douch though i use tampoons sometimes but d gyn told me to stop which i did.
Re: Trying To Conceive A Child? TTC by Nobody: 4:06pm On Aug 09, 2011
If ur treating discharge try to avoid sugar bcoz it creates a more condusive environment for bacteria

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