agaugust:


invisible enemy

the most powerful armies on the world have NOT defeated domestic islamic terrorists or cross border islamic terrorists.

american army is best in the world with number one ranking[/b], but boston city of america was bombed by islamic terrorists few weeks ago inside american homeland. does that mean american army is not great ? nigerian army is facing what american army could NOT defeat.

france is super power military , yet they announced plans to run out of Mali war soon, just before it becomes religious guerrilla where the attackers hit and run and are faceless, transforming to civilians at random. france learned that from america, so they will soon run away from mali and hand over to nigeria army to fight the dirty religious guerilla war.

american army is best in the world but they get every week new attacks from islamic terrorists in iraq up till today, does that reduces american military ranking? NO.

british army could not defeat IRA religious terrorists for almost 30 years. russian army was killed in thousands by islamic terrorists in afghanistan and chechnya. south africa will NOT last 6 months if b.oko h.aram forces live with civilians in johannesburg and change to suicide bombers overnight, then run into villages and change back to civilian clothes in 30 minutes, mix with people on the street, go to work, market, school.....south africa wont last 6 months with that kind of war, its 10 times more dangerous than seleka rebels that come to you face to face and remain publicly availabe for you to shoot at.

israeli military is top 10 ranking in the world, yet they receive bombing attacks in jerusalem and tel aviv regularly from islamic terrorists and rockets from hezbollah islamists pass through israeli anti-missle defences and kill israelis inside israel regularly. does it make israeli military to be weak ? does it change their world military rankings ?

hey south africans...go sit down somewhere and stop ranting about nigerian army. south africa will NOT survive 6 months if you b.oko h.aram terrorists are south african legitimate citizens and residents.

i guess you do think...or am i wrong ? you become like @Mbuisi ? can i find any credible south african on nairaland ?

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Mbuisi:

The enemy atleast respect their military installation and rather attacks innocent people on the streets. Now is different if the enemy attacks government buildings and even launch offensive on the homes and base of soldiers and set them ablaze. I will only tells you one thing that the enermy knows your strength and undermines you. Just the thought of attacking the military base should scare the enermy away and should never even think of committing the nasty attacks any near such installation. Any man who undermines the prowess of your family will even attack you at your home, I mean even if you are hiding in your bedroom will make sure that he will budge in and attack you before your family members.

Mbuisi:

Wonder if they can fly those Jets well or just posing with those uniforms. Generally I told you that Nigerians are bad fliers, and there is nothing you can do about it. In Africa only SA and Ethiopia get the trophy in that respect, not even the Egyptians have the passion to fly planes like those aforementioned nations. In SA while I was still in Bloemfonten, I used to watch SA pilots in their Air show and they have an Airforce base there nearby, dude those pilots are magnificent in manoeuvring jets. Surely it would even be difficult to ground their planes with missiles.

Mbuisi:

This is not about people taking the law into their own hands. When I was in SA there was a lot of complaints about Nigerians, I mean other foreigners can behave including myself when I was in SA. What I noticed in SA is that many Nigerian nationals are undermining the law enforcement of SA and thereby if the citizens begin to take them otherwise and start to accuse them of being xenophobic. Tell me how do you explain to this tabloid pasted below.

http://www.potchefstroomherald.co.za/articles/articledetails.aspx?id=19073

andrewza:
There is no weapon that nigeria has that is better than any thing in SA hands and most modern advance nigerian weapons are in small numbers.

andrewza: only in gunboats do i see nigeria being in the lead. But SA has no need or use of a gun boat.

andrewza: nigeria missile tech is still in the fetus era and has a long way to go.

saengine:

And what jets do those Nigerians fly? Please tell us.

ckkris:

Very true. Nigeria still has high volume of domestic air traffic, flown by Nigerian pilots. Frequent crashes? Well, its part of it. Progress has its own costs, doesn't it? Even primitive Nigerians will not accept to have Nigerian aircraft flown by white people. No. Nigerians must be trained to fly them.

saengine:

can someone please prove to me that the Nigerian air force can crush the South African air force.

andrewza:

IRA attacked a few brit bases, even killed a few of the royal famly

Mbuisi:

I am sorry but I don't buy to this.

agaugust: nigerian air force has the most powerful jet fighters in our west african sub-region, no threat around us.


south african grippen jets have no range to reach nigeria, and no special air to surface weapons on south african jet fighters.

only 6 south african grippen jets can fly as at today, the remaining 20 jets have no pilots or are tied down in long term storage, NOT active, due to financial problems of south africa.


nigerian army has the best anti-aircraft missile defences in the whole of africa second only to egypt


nigeria has the anti-aircraft capability to shoot down the whole south african air force in 5 minutes

agaugust: nigerian air force has the most powerful jet fighters in our west african sub-region, no threat around us.


south african grippen jets have no range to reach nigeria, and no special air to surface weapons on south african jet fighters.

only 6 south african grippen jets can fly as at today, the remaining 20 jets have no pilots or are tied down in long term storage, NOT active, due to financial problems of south africa.


nigerian army has the best anti-aircraft missile defences in the whole of africa second only to egypt


nigeria has the anti-aircraft capability to shoot down the whole south african air force in 5 minutes

Mbuisi:

South African crime rate has nothing to match to terrorists activities that have been consuming Nigeria with mass killings that you only see on movies.

ckkris:

Very true. Nigeria still has high volume of domestic air traffic, flown by Nigerian pilots. Frequent crashes? Well, its part of it. Progress has its own costs, doesn't it? Even primitive Nigerians will not accept to have Nigerian aircraft flown by white people. No. Nigerians must be trained to fly them.

Mbuisi:

The last picture I have it, so please do not let me to disgrace you by telling the truth about where do you get that picture from.

agaugust:

wrong information.

b.oko h.aram killed about 3,000 people in 4 years in nigeria, but south african murder rate in same 4 years is about 60,000 people killed. google is your friend, crime and violence is 4 times worse in south africa than nigeria. south africa is a silent death trap.


south african women below in photo below beg for stopping daily bloodshed of thousands in their country

agaugust:

wrong information.

b.oko h.aram killed about 3,000 people in 4 years in nigeria, but south african murder rate in same 4 years is about 60,000 people killed. google is your friend, crime and violence is 4 times worse in south africa than nigeria. south africa is a silent death trap.

south africa is the murder and R.ape headquarters of the world today with number one ranking, undisputed champion.

south african women below in photo below beg for stopping daily bloodshed of thousands in their country

Mbuisi:

Is so amazing that all that hardware you have is failing to finish BH in five minutes. I wonder how will it now manage to stop over 75000 force with modern day artillery and technology.

agaugust: nigerian air force has the most powerful jet fighters in our west african sub-region, no threat around us.

south african grippen jets have no range to reach nigeria, and no special air to surface weapons on south african jet fighters. also, only 6 south african grippen jets can fly as at today, the remaining 20 jets have no pilots or are tied down in long term storage, NOT active, due to financial problems of south africa.

nigerian army has the best anti-aircraft missile defences in the whole of africa second only to egypt

nigeria has the anti-aircraft capability to shoot down the whole south african air force in 5 minutes

agaugust:

you are a joke, that is photo from the country that sold the anti-aircraft missiles to nigeria, germany. nigeria has the same weapons. the whole world knows nigeria has the weapon, google is your friend. nigerian military never shows its missiles firing in photos like south africa.

so what disgrace ? you just a kid in school....try to learn things.

Mbuisi:

The last picture I have it, so please do not let me to disgrace you by telling the truth about where do you get that picture from.

Mbuisi:

You are lying to your teeth with desperation in your face. Just imagine 60 000 in four years. Do you forget that I am studying international relations and taught by most reputable professors. Desperation will make you miss facts.

all4naija: Jeez! Using such weapons on terrorist hiding among innocent civilians will lead to collateral damages.

agaugust:

thats a big lie. nigeria has many modern weapons that south africa does NOT have and you have no plans to even buy some of them.

then some of nigerian heavy weapons from year 2000 to 2012 were purchased in many hundreds costing billions of dollars.

you want me to prove you wrong with photos and weblinks in front of your fellow south africans here ?




nigeria too has no need of submarines and grippen jets, no threat against us in those areas. equation balanced.



north korea started missile project like nigeria, today america is threatened by the past under-estimated north korea, nigerian long range missile project is aimed to grow to inter-continental ballistic level, thats a threat to even europe in future, it is linked to our space launch rocketry and trajectory project going on at epe coastal are of lagos

Mbuisi:

Oops!! There are no records you have such weapons. Aguagua must have raised your hopes, psedo-expectations. Sorry!!!

all4naija: Dassault-Breguet, Dornier Alpha Jet and a host of others.

What kind of jet fighter do pilots fly?

andrewza:

only the alpha, j7 and and 2 su24s are in service

Saaf flies gripens and hawk 120s. With the A-darta the Hawk could handle all those aircraft. Only the SU24 is any good. J7 are basically Mig21s and the alpha jets are ok not world class not bad just ok.

all4naija: There is 12 multi-fighter Chengdu F-7 Airguard bought from China. Those can take on your Su24 any day.

andrewza:

F7 is the export name of the J7. SAAF dose not use the SU24 we use the SAAB JAS39 grippen a real multi role fighter.

saengine: Because of your inland rivers, deltas etc etc it makes sense that Nigeria should have a bigger navy than SA. I don't think anyone doubts that. But even with the lack of funding in our air force, can someone please prove to me that the Nigerian air force can crush the South African air force.

andrewza:

never doubted that, but it more to do with the weakness of the rest of west africas air force not the strength of nigeria's air force

yes that is true, there is mid long term plan for a airtanker, most likely a KC130. incorrect the SAAF operates the paveway 3 LGB and a number of long range standoff weapons are available but not integrated or in the pipeline, again incorrect SAAF has 6 pilots senior pilots at 2 squadron at all times, they rotated around with pilots seconded to other units(normally air school has instructors), on leave or on course. nor dose it take in to account junior pilots who have yet to qualify on the gripen but are in 2 squadron. This was covered. SAAF has 12 gripens ready. SAAF all so has 2 full simulators and the hawk and gripen have the same copit. this was covered some time ago. We still point out SAAF sent 8 pilots to sweded for war games and the gripens flew 850 hours last year.

what a lie, you have a few roland SAMs, a few manpads(most a orxy would deafet) and some AA guns

The roland is without a doubt nigerian Air defens best weapon. But it is no threat to a gripen. It use old fashion Radar and has a max detection range of about 20km, max missile range 8km and effect engagement range about 6km. basical the gripen can just fly above it and drop LGBs on them. Algeria has a far better SAM sytem than nigeria

SANDF ground based Air Defense was just upgraded. The 35mm AA guns and Starstreak SAM have been complement with the new ground based umkhonto. The vehicle carries 6 block 2 sams and was revealed late last year. Full detail on numbers are not yet known.

Mbuisi:

Do you insinuate that you would rather keep an incompetent black pilot who is a lot riskier to crash the plane than a competent white pilot who will fly you save to your destination.

all4naija: Yes! It is still more competent in fight than your Swedish SAAB JAS39 grippen.

F7 combact radius of 850km(with avionic FIAR Grifo-7 mk.II radar) against your SAAB JAS39 grippen 800km. Where I found grippen to be useful is the thrust and weight against the J7.