chrissy365:

mr monkey brain. you are the one that has just shown how criminalization has rocked the brains of SMELL AFRICANS. brainless boy that is so desperate to deliver emptiness of his fiddle mind.

why are you talking about democracy when the argument was clearly about police not capable of doing military duty? are you really this S.TUPID(lacking intelligence or common sense)

why did you skip Britain that fought IRA with troops and special forces instead of police, since it was an internal crisis?
or US deploy national guards to assist thousands of the best police tactical team in the world (SWAT) just to fight two terrorists?
are these countries not democracies to you.

what about SA that deployed troops just to protect animals and support your police just to fight marikana protesters? since your special task force team were busy facebooking.

is SA not a democracy?

clearly the word S.TUPID which means "lacking intelligence or common sense" suits your way of reasoning.

so you see that am not insulting you but calling you what you are. I.DIOT

Hezron Lorraine: Chris u are one hell of a sarcastic dude.u know how to drop the lines.
Fellow nigerians,thank you,u are all doing well,well done also to the south africans,u guys also are good at promoting your military though they are better than fashion models in Milan when it comes to taking pictures..
CraigB,na u act die-hard,u don't want to give up yet,anyways u are wanted in ward B,left wing of National hospital for drug collection.

Me I done tire for this thread wey no one end.We keep saying the same thing over and over again
with different points.


Jokes apart,
Thumbs up everybody who has made vital contributions on this thread,u all are wonderful.when real war comes we'll know whose da boss.

Thiza: @AGAUGUST.....SOUTH AFRICANS DO NOT HAVE TO DECEIVE THEMSELVES THEY ONLY HAVE TO PROVE IT THAT SOUTH AFRICA POSSESS INDEGENEOUS WEAPONS NOT AMERICAN OR CHINA.....PROVE ME OTHERWISE WHAT DOES MOROCCO, EGYPT, NIGERIA, LIBYA ETC PRODUCES AS THEIR HOME MADE TECHNOLOGY RIVALLING THE BEST IN THE WORLD.....COME ON WE ARE WAITING??

chrissy365:

my friend sharap. what have you achieved with the weapons you've been building.
Nigerian military has achieved a lot in africa with their imported weapons than you that build your own. go and teach your army how to fight with those weapons before bragging

am still waiting for my response please. achievements

agaugust:

answer that man below...big question



@THIZA, answer him he asked you a question above.

i will answer your own question directed at me over the weekend, saturday/sunday

agaugust:

south africans have 33% brain...always remember

Thiza: now the out of service CHEETAH

Msauza:

Simple, Nigerias military achievements are mainly based on peacekeeping mission of which is the same with South Africa. SA as well participated in many peacekeeping missions.

agaugust:

thats why we say south africans have a 33% brain

biafra war biggest in africa 500,000 soldiers and airforce/navy at war for 3 years...is a peacekeeping mission ?

sierra leone war was no peace keeping mission. nigeria and sierra leone had a defence pact, the national army of sierra leone was defeated by coalition of several rebel groups, president tejan kabbah asked nigeria to invoke our defence pact, we landed there, attacked and defeated the rebels of about 40,000 fighters...and we restored the democratic government of president kabbah.

liberia a bit different, but also about 35,000 rebels of charles taylor armed by libya with anti-tank weapons and shoulder anti-aircraft missiles.

1,000 nigerian soldiers died in both wars . all involved nigerian air force jets in action.

those wars are far superior to what south africa experienced in CAR. your current army has almost zero combat experience, thats why you rush to brazil to learn jungle warfare from your fellow inexperienced brazilian army. blind leading blind

war is war, rebel or national army. the rebels of liberia and sierra leone were more powerful than their national armies and overthrew the two presidents and their governments .

sweden and holland your masters in south africa has far less combat experience than nigeria

war is war.

south african army has no single achievement of winning any battle in modern history. you lost to seleka teenage rebels

south african military, try defeat some teenage african rebels before you dream of fighting nigeria, algeria, ethiopia, morocco

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CraigB:

As I've come to expect from Clover-Danone and the rest of the Naai-gerians: lots of idi*tic questions asked with all the seriousness of respectable enquiry

Not too long ago, we challenged you on your president's having hijacked your military colours. We said that you know nothing about being a democracy. You cried: "Oh! We are Naai-geria! We do it our own way."

We left you alone to live in your fo*ol's paradise.

We then told you about our military training academies and argued that the US have a similar setup. You cried: "Oh, just because the US does it like you doesn't make your academies good."

We left you alone there, as well - so you could bake in the heat of your imbec*ile ways.

Now lo and behold - you want to be compared to other countries?! All of a sudden!

Ok, spineless invertebrates, let's see:

Which of the countries that you've listed have a healthy democracy? Feel free to refer to the democracy index.

Democracy and separation of powers - you wouldn't know anything about that. You're from the ghetto that's Naai-geria.

Mexico has a long history of using their military internally. As it turns out, they suffer the same ills that Naai-gerians suffer - useless police and useless special forces.

Here: read it and weep. You've just buttressed my argument. And don't be shy to look at what's being said about the Mexican constitution.

-----> http://blog.chron.com/bakerblog/2013/06/why-mexicos-military-is-fighting-the-countrys-drug-war/

Oh! How about this?

"As long as the Mexican government is unable to strengthen the police and the courts and protect them against the powerful ability of organized crime to corrupt or intimidate, it will continue to rely on its armed forces. The military has been and will continue to be deployed by necessity, regardless of the campaign promises or rhetoric of the sitting president. The Peña administration may aggressively attempt to control information about the use of the military; it may de-emphasize the use of the military in its public statements. But the Peña administration, like the Calderón administration before it, does not have an alternative."

Sounds like Naai-geria, doesn't it? The exact same argument made by your very Naai-gerian Daily Trust

The people of Tibet view China's presence as an occupation. The people of Chechnya view Russia's presence as an occupation.

On the democracy index, both China and Russia are authoritarian or thereabouts.

Is this what the already useless Naai-geria aspires to?

You people have a strange way of showing your intelligence.

Donian007: SOUTH AFRICAN AIRFORCE'S AUGUSTA-109 HELICOPTERS GROUNDED, JOINS GRIPENS IN STORAGE FREEZER. www.african-defense.com/?p=2794 AFRIKAAN'S DAILY BEELD REPORTS: www.beeld.com/nuus/2013-07-24-ons-helis-staan ALSO: www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1227/saaf-crisis-caused-by-underfunding DefenceWeb, July 24, 9:58am QUOTE: Not one of SA Airforce's(SAAF) 18 Augusta A109 helicopters is currently flying because there are no funds to use them operationally, the Africaans daily Beeld roports. QUOTES FURTHER: Military analyst Helmoed-Romer Heitman was scathing in his reponse. "The Air Force, as with the entire SANDF is suffering as a result of government's inability to decide what it wants from its military. "An air force without fighters is a dead duck in the African military context. A defence force without helicopters and transport aircrafts is a dinosaur in a swamp. An army without attack and transport helicopters is a lame duck and a navy without maritime helicopters and maritime patrol aircraft is blind, " was how the Defence Review Committee member reacted to the A-109 grounding coupled with other current equipment shortcoings in the SANDF. "UNQOUTE"

Donian007: SOUTH AFRICAN AIRFORCE'S AUGUSTA-109 HELICOPTERS GROUNDED, JOINS GRIPENS IN STORAGE FREEZER. www.african-defense.com/?p=2794 AFRIKAAN'S DAILY BEELD REPORTS: www.beeld.com/nuus/2013-07-24-ons-helis-staan ALSO: www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1227/saaf-crisis-caused-by-underfunding DefenceWeb, July 24, 9:58am QUOTE: Not one of SA Airforce's(SAAF) 18 Augusta A109 helicopters is currently flying because there are no funds to use them operationally, the Africaans daily Beeld roports. QUOTES FURTHER: Military analyst Helmoed-Romer Heitman was scathing in his reponse. "The Air Force, as with the entire SANDF is suffering as a result of government's inability to decide what it wants from its military. "An air force without fighters is a dead duck in the African military context. A defence force without helicopters and transport aircrafts is a dinosaur in a swamp. An army without attack and transport helicopters is a lame duck and a navy without maritime helicopters and maritime patrol aircraft is blind, " was how the Defence Review Committee member reacted to the A-109 grounding coupled with other current equipment shortcoings in the SANDF.

WE SAW THIS ON eNCA AFRICA NEWS, US ARMY SAYS THEY WERE IMPRESSED WITH S.A. ARMY
THE TRUETH IS SELEKA,M23(crying already), HAVE NEVER TESTED THE FULL MIGHT OF "MIGHTY SANDF" AS I SAID THE ZULUS,VENDAS,AFRIKANERS,ENGLISH SA,INDIANS SA,CHINESE SA,XHOSA, TSWANA,SHANGAAN ETC..WEREN'T THERE SELEKA KILLED FEW CHAPS FROM BLOEMFONTEIN.

THE TRUETH IS ONCE WE Bleep THEM UP SOON WE WILL BE CALLED DICTATORS

andrewza: http://www.peherald.com/news/article/17416

THE usual calm and tranquility of the R342 leading into the Eastern Cape hamlet of Alicedale exploded into dramatic action yesterday as a group of South African and US soldiers opened fire on an extensive convoy of "enemy" vehicles carrying hundreds of troops through the area.

Small arms and rocket fire and the booms of other ordnance echoed through a valley leading into the town before the ambush party was quickly overrun by the soldiers in the convoy, marking the end of the first major engagement of the military exercise Shared Accord.

Formally launched in Port Elizabeth on Wednesday, this is a joint peace support operation and humanitarian relief exercise between the militaries of South Africa and the US and involves a number of arms, such as the air force, army, navy and medical services of both countries.

Shared Accord involves 2500 soldiers from the SANDF's 43 South African Brigade and about 700 members of the US Armed Forces who will be involved in various other exercises, including an airborne assault and a massive beach landing operation.

These will be held in a variety of locations which include Grahamstown, King William's Town, East London and Bulembo Airport near Bhisho, with an important aspect of the overall mission being to provide medical services to a number of communities in the vicinity.

With the overriding objectives being to test the two militaries' capabilities, increase their knowledge and understanding of one another and further entrench cooperation between the two armies and countries as a whole, yesterday's operation was hailed as a success.

Based on the mock military scenario that critical water supplies had been cut off by an occupying force, the exercise saw the militaries split into two opposing forces with the objective of the first force being to engage the enemy to re- establish the water supply and thereby alleviate a humanitarian crisis.

This scenario saw contact points, including an ambush, which incorporated the tactical placement of improvised explosive devices (IED) ahead of the arrival of the enemy convoy which had sent an advance four- vehicle scout ahead of the long convoy of vehicles.

The four vehicles, which included the famous Humvees known for their use in Iraq and Afghanistan, were struck by the hidden IED, which marked the start of the exercise. The vehicles formed part of an extensive convoy of 75 South African and US troop carriers and light fighting vehicles, which immediately gave the area the appearance of a military invasion zone.

Following the subsequent ambush manoeuvre, the convoy moved towards Alicedale where they were met by a mock group of protesters blocking off the entrance to the town. Having secured the road leading in, the troops in the convoy then swept through the town which they secured in front of thrilled residents watching the exercise, before moving on to Grahamstown.

Captain Jaco Theunissen of the SA Navy reiterated that this was a training exercise and it was being used to both train and develop skills and tactics.

"It went very well – there was good cooperation and objectives were achieved," he said.

Speaking after the convoy had arrived in Alicedale, Lieutenant Shane Darville of the USAF said he was very pleased with how the exercise had progressed. "It was great and worked well," he said.

Darville, who commended the South African troops involved, labelling them "very tough", said cooperation between the two forces had been excellent and this boded well for the remainder of Shared Accord, which ends on August 5.

Townsfolk who lined the street leading into Alicedale to "catch the action", expressed their delight at having the opportunity to view the operation.

"I absolutely loved it," Bed & Breakfast owner Eli Konstant said. She explained that the SANDF had visited the area and explained the operation to residents there about three weeks ago.

"It was great to see. It is just a pity that more school pupils from this area were not present to see it. They would have really enjoyed it," she said.

Paul Kuhne, who operates a gap year course for youths in the area, told The Herald that he had thoroughly enjoyed watching the exercise.

"This was great, especially for the kids. Everyone wants to see the firearms and equipment they use. It was really exciting," he said.

agaugust:

morocco

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AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Agaust
I WILL REPEAT WHAT I SAID BEFORE nigeria WILL ALWAYS COME BEHING R.S.A IN EVERYTHING.

IN BOXING nigerians ARE SO WEAK AND HAVE SMALL HEARTS TO FIGHT. IN "CAGE FIGHTING" WE KICK YOUR SORRY ASSES. I laughed last night when SA fighter was seating on TOP OF A NIGERIAN BABOON. BEATING THE HELL OUT OF HIM.

Msauza: The Denel's Vektor CR-21 (5.56) is set to replace R4 and R5.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektor_CR-21

Here under are images of vektor CR-21

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as26/vektor-cr21-2.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as26/vektor-cr21-4.jpg

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agaugust:

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the best main battle tank in africa is the T-90 MBT of the armies of Algeria and Uganda. algeria spent almost $1 billion to buy 305 units of this tank from russia.

it is surprising that some countries we think have the most modern weapons in africa are not having so much of the best.