sheyie2007:
That is an achievement from a black nation... the world applauded us for that.. it's all over the internet.... the world emphasized "first African built"
http://www.internationalpeaceandconflict.org/profiles/blogs/african-built-satellite-benefits-nigeria-kudos?xg_source=activity

Wow this is really funny because if the writer of that article new about google he/she would've found that Egypt and SA already had satellites way before 2011.

Maybe its just me but last time I checked SA was part of black africa and a African country including Egypt or please tell me does Nigeria have the only right to be called a african nation.

Did u know that SA launched a satellite in 1999/2009/2011.
http://www.earthzine.org/2010/01/11/sumbandilasat-eo-satelilite-shows-south-africa's-space-mettle/

Did u know that Hartebeesthoek radio and satellite tracking station was invloved in assisting and tracking many unmanned U.S space missions, including the Ranger, Surveyor and Lunar Orbitor spacecraft, which explored the planets Venus and Mars
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartebeesthoek

sheyie2007:
Your systems? Built by?

Built by black goverment in the 1990's after the old apartheid one was dismantled.

Msauza:

What about Nelson Mandela

anybody could be locked up in prison. Why dont you right a things fall apart

souldust: anybody could be locked up in prison. Why dont you right a things fall apart

What? Can you please explain yourself

snydergp:

Wow this is really funny because if the writer of that article new about google he/she would've found that Egypt and SA already had satellites way before 2011.

Maybe its just me but last time I checked SA was part of black africa and a African country including Egypt or please tell me does Nigeria have the only right to be called a african nation.

Did u know that SA launched a satellite in 1999/2009/2011.
http://www.earthzine.org/2010/01/11/sumbandilasat-eo-satelilite-shows-south-africa's-space-mettle/

Did u know that Hartebeesthoek radio and satellite tracking station was invloved in assisting and tracking many unmanned U.S space missions, including the Ranger, Surveyor and Lunar Orbitor spacecraft, which explored the planets Venus and Mars
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartebeesthoek

Perhaps they do not regard the so called rainbow nation as African enough. America work their everything as black and white, yet the end product is branded proudly American.

scipher:
A launch site or what?

Yes its a lauching, testing, tracking and missile development owned by the SAAF and used by Denel and other countries.

Msauza:

What about Nelson Mandela

His fight against the apartheid government was for your own good and not Nigeria's or other African country's.. we all just didn't like the way you threw yourselves at their revolvers and Ak 47s, so we helped you financially..(and training)

sheyie2007:
His fight against the apartheid government was for your own good and not Nigeria's or other African country's.. we all just didn't like the way you threw yourselves at their revolvers and Ak 47s, so we helped you financially..(and training)

I've heard this training thing numerous times where certain people here say naija trained ANC members yet history books only states Nigeria was a base for communication in the late 1970's when ANC sent Mbeki build relations with general Obasanjo at that time and the ANC office in Lagos was only operational for 2 years because of Nigeria's own instability at the time.

Don't know why people want to distort history to fit there own means.

snydergp:

Wow this is really funny because if the writer of that article new about google he/she would've found that Egypt and SA already had satellites way before 2011.

Maybe its just me but last time I checked SA was part of black africa and a African country including Egypt or please tell me does Nigeria have the only right to be called a african nation.

Did u know that SA launched a satellite in 1999/2009/2011.
http://www.earthzine.org/2010/01/11/sumbandilasat-eo-satelilite-shows-south-africa's-space-mettle/

Did u know that Hartebeesthoek radio and satellite tracking station was invloved in assisting and tracking many unmanned U.S space missions, including the Ranger, Surveyor and Lunar Orbitor spacecraft, which explored the planets Venus and Mars
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartebeesthoek

The only thing you've contributed to south Africa is raping old women and young children, the SA black community is lost cause No wonder majority of your 2013 budget was allocated to education, it keeps producing dull black folks like you.

sheyie2007:
The only thing you've contributed to south Africa is raping old women and young children, the SA black community is lost cause No wonder majority of your 2013 budget was allocated to education, it keeps producing dull black folks like you.

SA all ways has education has it's highest priority. It is nothing new. Any case where would you spend the money.

sheyie2007:
The only thing you've contributed to south Africa is raping old women and young children, the SA black community is lost cause No wonder majority of your 2013 budget was allocated to education, it keeps producing dull black folks like you.

What about foreigners in the likes of Nigerians who traffic small girls, r*ape and even force them on drugs. They do not do this in Nigeria because they fear death penalty in their countries. They also contribute to the problem that we already have in SA.

Msauza:

What about foreigners in the likes of Nigerians who traffic small girls, r*ape and even force them on drugs. They do not do this in Nigeria because they fear death penalty in their countries. They also contribute to the problem that we already have in SA.

Till thy kingdom come, you'll continue to point fingers at foreigners for your self inflicted problems... zuma made it clear during his last state of the nation address how apartheid contributed to SAs crime rate. SA has always been full of junkies and drug barons before the arrival of Nigerians.... fix your xenophobic selves and stop highlighting other country's flaws... an average south african is a 'flaw' .. deal with it

snydergp:

Built by black goverment in the 1990's after the old apartheid one was dismantled.

A Black government in SA before 94 was a dream..

Msauza:

What about foreigners in the likes of Nigerians who traffic small girls, r*ape and even force them on drugs. They do not do this in Nigeria because they fear death penalty in their countries. They also contribute to the problem that we already have in SA.

Why would you force a junkie to buy drugs Last time I was in SA, I lost count of high school kids smoking cigarettes on their way back from school (I was like WTF)... msauza, YOU'LL NEVER FIND A SHIIT LIKE THAT IN NIGERIA...I've been to your country so I'll continue to drop facts here... you have a morally corrupt society(fact), the high unemployed youths are just pathetic..pls don't blame Nigerians for your problems...

DictatorZAR:

I've heard this training thing numerous times where certain people here say naija trained ANC members yet history books only states Nigeria was a base for communication in the late 1970's when ANC sent Mbeki build relations with general Obasanjo at that time and the ANC office in Lagos was only operational for 2 years because of Nigeria's own instability at the time.

Don't know why people want to distort history to fit there own means.

Fact is, we played a role

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AfroArab:

who wrote a nonsense like this ? in african military power, ethiopia is not superior to nigeria. i say, not because we arabs dont like ethiopians, but because we know the truth.

ethiopia army has T-62 amoured tank, nigeria is T-72 and vickers british heavy tanks. ethiopia has old SAM-6 anti aircraft missile, nigeria has more modern roland anti aircraft missile that shot down british royal airforce harrier jet in falkland war. ethiopia has no cobra super mordern amoured vehicle with missile and cannon, but nigeria has 200 cobra infantry fighting vehicles very modern. ethiopia army artillery has no moblie type. nigeria army has mobile italian heavy artilley.

only that ethiopia army has very much more history of experience than nigeria and all other black nations. but nigerian army is very well trained even with israeli army tactics and british army tactics and german paratroop training too.

ethiopia has zero navy no navy. nigeria has one of best 4 navy in africa. ethiopia has SU-27 jet better than nigeria but its all second hand used aircraft. nigeria F-7 jet less powerful but brand new and nigeria has too many radar guide anti aircraft guns and roland and cobra anti aircraft missile to shoot down destroy the enemy jet fighter airplane.

nigeria also has more modern electronic warfare and jamming equipment than ethiopia.

we the arab people fear nigeria military in whole africa because the nigeria army is very good fighters and high experience in modern combat. the nigeria army train overseas europe asia and others, so we fear them. even egypt our biggest arab leader of africa is not so good army like nigeria. the nigeria army more intelligent in battle field but egypt has more many weapons to defeat nigeria.

but we arab countries all fear to attack nigeria, it is too big and the people very smart we dont want to risk war to fight nigeria. any african nation that fight nigeria will suffer heavy casualty of lives. so libya hates nigeria but always afraid to fight war with the biggest black power of the earth.

the best of we arabs is egypt and algeria they will defeat nigeria in war but it will not be easy to win, we too will suffer heavy casualty. the south african and ethiopian military cannot defeat nigeria, it is only their dream it cannot come to reality. good modern weapons in south african military but too few number of the weapons and few soldiers to challenge a big black power nigeria.

i know what we arab nations think about you black nations power. we respect south africa, but we fear nigeria.

true every sensible african nation fear to war against that nigeria military, they are very dangerous in tactics of war. their military doctrine was studied in egypt military academy and it is seen that nigerian army comabt tactic is too much mixed of many europe and asia and other super power tactics including israeli army tactics the nigeian army practice for operation combat.

its so hard to fight nigeria because of their mixed tactics you cannot understand how they operate, the report we have from the libya miltary advisers from russia is that ecomog war shows that nigerian army tactics is full of surprise actions the enemy never expect. the russian colonel at libya said if you fight nigeria army with military textbook you will lose the war because the nigerian soldiers officers do some strange combat tactics in infantry war.

the south africa military need to hire more numbers of soldiers to increase their army if they want to be african new big power. also their 26 grippen jets is good modern but too small few numbers to rule the sky of africa. arab air force rule the sky of africa now, no black nation can challenge us yet.

i just fear that becaus eof the mali war, nigeria is planning a new powerful air force, we read in some world news of nigeria thinking now of buying the best china jets called JF-17 Thunder and if they buy it, nigeria is danger to we arab countries of africa, you see the jet down there i pasted the pix of it, very good to challenge arab F-16 jets and Mig 29, but we can be superior with algeria SU-30 jets if we pilot with tactical dogfight.


army in africa, egypt 1st, algeria 2nd, nigeria 3rd, ethiopia 4th, south africa 5th (south africa is shortage of numbers in heavy weapons, too few artillery and too few soldiers)

navy in africa, south africa 1st, nigeria 2nd, egypt 3rd, algeria 4th, ethiopia zero navy no navy (it has no ocean water). only nigeria and south african navy has stealth ships to beat we arab african navy.

air force in africa, egypt 1st, algeria 2nd, south africa 3rd, ethiopia 4th, nigeria far behind maybe number 9th behind angola, uganda, sudan, morocco that have SU-27 jets and Mirage F1

the best powerful military of africa all armed forces army navy airforce combined, is easy to know if you want to be true.

EGYPT 1ST

ALGERIA 2ND

NIGERIA OR SOUTH AFRICA OR ETHIOPIA STRUGGLE TO BEAT EACH OTHER TO BE 3RD

if the nigerian air force buys that new JF-17 Thunder multirole jet fighter they become threat to we arab countries of africa. any body knows how far the new discussion with china and nigeria air force to buy the new jets ? please give information free, i am not trying to spy your country.

Both the t72 and t62 export model(or monkey model) are not good. Since both have the same gun it comes down to armour. And neither could stop each other. The Vikers is not a heavy Tank it is a MBT.


Both are old and outdated in air deffense. And shooting down a harrier is not a big deal. It is a slow low flying target(has jets go)

There is a cobra armed AGM but all reports show you did not get that version.

Ethiopia has 31 152 SPH and 21 122 SPH plus a lot of mobile MLRS sytems.

No navy since no coast line. Nigerias navy is unable to stope the spread of pirats just of it's coast.

A 4th hand SU27 would tear up in J7. The SU27 was built to kill the best air craft in the cold war USAAF the F15 eagel. It is one of the best Aircraft in the world never mind africa.

A roland would strugel vs a SU27 and what Cobra SAM. All reports show you got the APC version.

All my reports show both of you have got bad EW/ECM.


Since when have the Arabs feard nigeria. Source please.

What do you mean we have shorteges. We have more heavy wepaons than nigeria and can build more any time. Is it because you think it in storage it not in use. You do know we got a large reserve force and keeping thing in storeg when not in use is common sense. I mean we have 1200 ratel alone. Do some reshearch and yous common dog sense.

sheyie2007:
The only thing you've contributed to south Africa is raping old women and young children, the SA black community is lost cause No wonder majority of your 2013 budget was allocated to education, it keeps producing dull black folks like you.

Our university system is 10 times more advanced then nigerias we spent more per capita on education because we want a stable and prosperous future for our people.

Why does our education budget concern you am I sensing mild jealously here or what

sheyie2007:
Till thy kingdom come, you'll continue to point fingers at foreigners for your self inflicted problems... zuma made it clear during his last state of the nation address how apartheid contributed to SAs crime rate. SA has always been full of junkies and drug barons before the arrival of Nigerians.... fix your xenophobic selves and stop highlighting other country's flaws... an average south african is a 'flaw' .. deal with it

The same fingers are pointing right back at you, just look at how many of your countryman are in jail in foreign countries for drug, human trafficking and scamming its more than any other nation on this planet yet you point fingers while your own backyard aint clean.

sheyie2007:
A Black government in SA before 94 was a dream..

While Nigeria's goverment were killing its own black people like Ken Saro-Wiwa to please its masters SHELL and the same whites.
http://secretmanoeuvresinthedark./category/shell-nigeria

sheyie2007:
Fact is, we played a role

Fact is Zambia, Tanzania, Mozambique, Angola, Botswana played a much bigger role and lost there citizen including facing frequent cross border military raids, so don't think you are special other countries suffered directly unlike Nigeria Fact.

andrewza:


Both the t72 and t62 export model(or monkey model) are not good. Since both have the same gun it comes down to armour. And neither could stop each other. The Vikers is not a heavy Tank it is a MBT.


Both are old and outdated in air deffense. And shooting down a harrier is not a big deal. It is a slow low flying target(has jets go)

There is a cobra armed AGM but all reports show you did not get that version.

Ethiopia has 31 152 SPH and 21 122 SPH plus a lot of mobile MLRS sytems.

No navy since no coast line. Nigerias navy is unable to stope the spread of pirats just of it's coast.

A 4th hand SU27 would tear up in J7. The SU27 was built to kill the best air craft in the cold war USAAF the F15 eagel. It is one of the best Aircraft in the world never mind africa.

A roland would strugel vs a SU27 and what Cobra SAM. All reports show you got the APC version.

All my reports show both of you have got bad EW/ECM.


Since when have the Arabs feard nigeria. Source please.

What do you mean we have shorteges. We have more heavy wepaons than nigeria and can build more any time. Is it because you think it in storage it not in use. You do know we got a large reserve force and keeping thing in storeg when not in use is common sense. I mean we have 1200 ratel alone. Do some reshearch and yous common dog sense.

nice to hear! But i just found out from a military source that close to 50% of nigerian weapons are not documented! Therefore meaning the are not in the UN WEAPON INVENTORY, that is why nigeria is rated low! I personally have seen, motorized rocket launchers( the type used by brazil and togo) which are not documented in the inventory, a Ranking officer said "nigerian army is not an army of pictures" . The are several weapons undocumented including a soviet built long range Missile system, i had not even know we had(though in a little bad shape), there up to 3 navy warships, undocumented, several many others. I dnt knw nigerian army choose to conceed its military strength, bt its sure must be a military stragedy for element of surprise.

DictatorZAR:

The same fingers are pointing right back at you, just look at how many of your countryman are in jail in foreign countries for drug, human trafficking and scamming its more than any other nation on this planet yet you point fingers while your own backyard aint clean.

Baseless post.. who points fingers? Who blames foreigners for their problems? Explain how I'm pointing fingers please.... NIGERIA is 170mil you're just 50 Millie, see how crime has eating y'all up like termites..Mheen enough points have been highlighted in previous pages.. I'm just too lazy to type... just deal with your problems and we'll deal with ours.. if you catch our village boys selling drugs, you're free to jail him..

DictatorZAR:

Fact is Zambia, Tanzania, Mozambique, Angola, Botswana played a much bigger role and lost there citizen including facing frequent cross border military raids, so don't think you are special other countries suffered directly unlike Nigeria Fact.

Lol.... fact is [size=14pt]NIGERIA played a role in SAs apartheid whether directly or indirectly [/size] it disturbs your asses that we were written in your history...

DictatorZAR:

Our university system is 10 times more advanced then nigerias we spent more per capita on education because we want a stable and prosperous future for our people.

Why does our education budget concern you am I sensing mild jealously here or what

Dude, nobody is disputing your university ratings... see, the ratings matter but it's products counts ... Nigeria have produced enough wiz.. we have Nigerians in NASA.. do you know a large percentage of black doctors in the US are Nigerians? Speak of engineering and ICT we dey.. so bra, the future is bright! Jealousy my bottom

@Synderp - the made in NIGERIA drone features

Not too high tech but all this for a start



Customisable flight control software

• Waypoint navigation

• High speed real time image processing for onboard Geo-location and Target Tracking

• Up to 40 km VHF communications

• Modular and mobile GCSrget Tracking

• Up to 40 km VHF communications

• Modular and mobile GCS


More info http://beegeagle./2012/09/28/world-exclusive-made-in-nigeria-amebo-iii-drone-inspired-by-henry-a-beegeagles-blog/



Oh! You're on nairaland we own the platform too

Capnd143: nice to hear! But i just found out from a military source that close to 50% of nigerian weapons are not documented! Therefore meaning the are not in the UN WEAPON INVENTORY, that is why nigeria is rated low! I personally have seen, motorized rocket launchers( the type used by brazil and togo) which are not documented in the inventory, a Ranking officer said "nigerian army is not an army of pictures" . The are several weapons undocumented including a soviet built long range Missile system, i had not even know we had(though in a little bad shape), there up to 3 navy warships, undocumented, several many others. I dnt knw nigerian army choose to conceed its military strength, bt its sure must be a military stragedy for element of surprise.

Yes you correct a lot of it is not document. A lot of countries do that. Actually all of them. But hinding a locally produced rocket is easy. Hiding tanks is not. All so the cobra is a turkish wepaon. When they sold it to you they had to report it. Same for SA. I can go online and look at what we sold.

Has for unreported wepaons.
1 long rang russian misseils. You mean north korean knock off SCUD SLBM tahat never took place.

Your MLRS are listed by janes. The UN dose not do stock takeing of wepaons. So I don't under stand the UN wepaon list. None of our stuff are listed on the UN.


People in nigeria think that because they don't see pics there is jhigh secricy. It not true. You may hide small arms but all your major wepaons are knowen about. Though some times there level of maintence is not known

AfroArab:







ethiopia has zero navy no navy. nigeria has one of best 4 navy in africa. ethiopia has SU-27 jet better than nigeria but its all second hand used aircraft. nigeria F-7 jet less powerful but brand new and nigeria has too many radar guide anti aircraft guns and roland and cobra anti aircraft missile to shoot down destroy the enemy jet fighter airplane.







the south african and ethiopian military cannot defeat nigeria, it is only their dream it cannot come to reality. good modern weapons in south african military but too few number of the weapons and few soldiers to challenge a big black power nigeria.



the russian colonel at libya said if you fight nigeria army with military textbook you will lose the war because the nigerian soldiers officers do some strange combat tactics in infantry war.

the south africa military need to hire more numbers of soldiers to increase their army if they want to be african new big power. also their 26 grippen jets is good modern but too small few numbers to rule the sky of africa. arab air force rule the sky of africa now, no black nation can challenge us yet



army in africa, egypt 1st, algeria 2nd, nigeria 3rd, ethiopia 4th, south africa 5th (south africa is shortage of numbers in heavy weapons, too few artillery and too few soldiers)

navy in africa, south africa 1st, nigeria 2nd, egypt 3rd, algeria 4th, ethiopia zero navy no navy (it has no ocean water). only nigeria and south african navy has stealth ships to beat we arab african navy.

air force in africa, egypt 1st, algeria 2nd, south africa 3rd, ethiopia 4th, nigeria far behind maybe number 9th behind angola, uganda, sudan, morocco that have SU-27 jets and Mirage F1

the best powerful military of africa all armed forces army navy airforce combined, is easy to know if you want to be true.

EGYPT 1ST

ALGERIA 2ND

NIGERIA OR SOUTH AFRICA OR ETHIOPIA STRUGGLE TO BEAT EACH OTHER TO BE 3RD

Where did you get this info from because its full of basic flaws. What is up with this Arab nonsense we are all africans.

1-Nigeria's roland sam's is old and outdated it will not shoot down SU-27/30 unless there is pilot error not to mention Grippen Jas-39's.

2-what few weapons are you talking about because SA has more modern long range artillery systems then any other african country + SA builds there own G6-52 the best howziter in the world.

3-what Russian colonel are u talking about source please

4-what skys of africa are u talking about no airforce in the world will ever control the sky in africa simply because the airspace is to large. Radar coverage is the only alternative even this can be a daunting task. The F-16's are reaching retirement and is being fazed out in the US and other nations, nolonger the best and the specifications Egypt has is no match in a dog fight against JAS-39's.

5- SA's infantry mobile batteries are best equiped on the continent even Algeria uses SA made systems. Mobile REUTECH infantry radar warning systems, STAR STREAK mobile anti-aircraft, umkhonto anti-missile/anti-aircrft mobile batteries including Rooivalk helicopters are unmatched even by world standards. Numbers means nothing in such conventional war situations its been proven many times in wars the world over.

6- how can nigeria be 2nd best navy when it lacks Blue Water Naval ships. Only Algeria and Egypt can take on SA because they have more ships but not as modern as SAN ships and submarines. Nigeria don't even have any submarines capability currently, and no country in the world can built a credible submarine deterrent within 10 years. I really think you are a big dreamer.

Now this has been the most badly written bull I've seen in the short time I've been on this forum

Capnd143: nice to hear! But i just found out from a military source that close to 50% of nigerian weapons are not documented! Therefore meaning the are not in the UN WEAPON INVENTORY, that is why nigeria is rated low! I personally have seen, motorized rocket launchers( the type used by brazil and togo) which are not documented in the inventory, a Ranking officer said "nigerian army is not an army of pictures" . The are several weapons undocumented including a soviet built long range Missile system, i had not even know we had(though in a little bad shape), there up to 3 navy warships, undocumented, several many others. I dnt knw nigerian army choose to conceed its military strength, bt its sure must be a military stragedy for element of surprise.

Yes you correct a lot of it is not document. A lot of countries do that. Actually all of them. But hinding a locally produced rocket is easy. Hiding tanks is not. All so the cobra is a turkish wepaon. When they sold it to you they had to report it. Same for SA. I can go online and look at what we sold.

Has for unreported wepaons.
1 long rang russian misseils. You mean north korean knock off SCUD SLBM tahat never took place.

Your MLRS are listed by janes. The UN dose not do stock takeing of wepaons. So I don't under stand the UN wepaon list. None of our stuff are listed on the UN.


People in nigeria think that because they don't see pics there is jhigh secricy. It not true. You may hide small arms but all your major wepaons are knowen about. Though some times there level of maintence is not known

sheyie2007:
Lol.... fact is [size=14pt]NIGERIA played a role in SAs apartheid whether directly or indirectly [/size] it disturbs your asses that we were written in your history...

Nigeria played a small role. The europeans and yanks played a way bigger roll.

The Cubans, Angolans, warsaw pact counties and nambian freedom fights where the only group who gave blood.

sheyie2007: @Synderp - the made in NIGERIA drone features

Not too high tech but all this for a start



Customisable flight control software

• Waypoint navigation

• High speed real time image processing for onboard Geo-location and Target Tracking

• Up to 40 km VHF communications

• Modular and mobile GCSrget Tracking

• Up to 40 km VHF communications

• Modular and mobile GCS


More info http://beegeagle./2012/09/28/world-exclusive-made-in-nigeria-amebo-iii-drone-inspired-by-henry-a-beegeagles-blog/



Oh! You're on nairaland we own the platform too

Now compare that to SANDF's Seeker-400 UAV's that has a defense and attack capabilities not even speaking about Bateleur's all post apartheid built systems including africa's first domestic indigenous built light attack and recon aircraft the ARCHLIC.

Nigeria can learn a lot from SA and we can also learn from u, but the fact remains SA is still years ahead in research and development.