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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:24pm On Aug 22, 2013
AwodwaGyanOniwe: ....Kofi the SOUTH AFRICAN SHINING STAR. grin grin(

your medula oblongata really scattered...Kofi, a South African star ?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:24pm On Aug 22, 2013

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:28pm On Aug 22, 2013

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:30pm On Aug 22, 2013
Die*Vluit:
Having given the continent Nkrumah, Ghana shows signs of having a vision, direction and a story. Those who are small have no such. So they point and stare. What else can they do? They have nothing.

Nkrumah was a stalwart and a hero who fought for his people and for that I respect him. He is the founder of the concept of neo-colonialism concept. Unfortunately, the giant of Africa has no any to match that league of the elites.

May the soul of Kwame Nkrumah live forever.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:35pm On Aug 22, 2013
Msauza:

Nkrumah was a stalwart and a hero who fought for his people and for that I respect him. He is the founder of the concept of neo-colonialism concept. Unfortunately, the giant of Africa has no any to match that league of the elites.

May the soul of Kwame Nkrumah live forever.

you dont know any other history apart from Mandela's prison diary/notebook.

former/late president of nigeria Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe fought as friends with Ghana's Nkrumah jointly fought for African independence and liberation. reason he is called The Great Zik Of Africa....

get more education here :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nnamdi_Azikiwe

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by collynzo2(m): 3:37pm On Aug 22, 2013
Augustine Again:


i dont care what emotional people of the world say, i have checked african history records, Mandela did NOTHING for any other african country except his south african brothers alone, he remains a local/doemstic/homeland hero according to history. FACT !


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Cold, hard fact!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:39pm On Aug 22, 2013
Msauza:

Nkrumah was a stalwart and a hero who fought for his people and for that I respect him. He is the founder of the concept of neo-colonialism concept. Unfortunately, the giant of Africa has no any to match that league of the elites.

May the soul of Kwame Nkrumah live forever.

Which is why his land is the best democracy on the continent; and the best land in west Africa. There's a direct correlation between real leadership and the size of the mind and heart of those that are led. Ghana is undoubtedly the best and most visionary land in west Africa.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by collynzo2(m): 3:40pm On Aug 22, 2013
Augustine Again: .

all the citizens of Ghana on this forum are so ashamed of their Ghana nation, so they decide to post south african things....why are you running away from your own Kofi Nene bloodline ?

Ghana has no hero ? Ghana has no weapons ? Ghana has no war history ?

surely your fellow Ghanians are very 'proud' of how you put your country inside south africa's tiny pocket tongue tongue tongue


Bros I've been wondering when 'Kwame' and 'Gyan' became South African names, thank God I wasn't the only one who noticed. People shouldn't be ashamed of their nationalities.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:43pm On Aug 22, 2013
Obasanjo admits that Ghana is the best in West Africa. Small minds do not recognise greatness. As hip hop heads say: "real recognise real". Small men - if they had anything to show to the world, they would have elevated themselves to something better by now. But alas...all they can do is point at other people's lands.

https://www.osundefender.org/?p=77594
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by collynzo2(m): 3:50pm On Aug 22, 2013
When people refuse to see beyond their noses, they immerse themselves in their self generated hype. They said it's only Nigerians who don't see Mandela as an African hero, but this Zambian said he isn't even a regional (Souther African) hero and that is a fact!
Africa must decide who is a hero and who is not. So far, the outside world decides for Africa just like they have pushed the Coca Cola brand toeven represent every other cool drink there is on the market.
Without taking away anything from the ailing former South African president Nelson Mandela, Africa should reflect on other leaders who sacrificed their careers and people for the regional democracy and independence.
Mandela is a hero of course, but can he be more a hero than the people who fought for his release? Yes, the whole of Africa stood by Mandela with the then Frontline States making a lot of noise about his release.
Take Kenneth Kaunda for example. He put his country’s development and the lives of his people on the line just to help southern African countries attain independence.
Mozambican, Angolan, Namibian, Zimbabwean and South African refugees and freedom fighters sought refuge in Zambia where the Rhodesian and apartheid governments would send planes to bomb from time to time.
So where does Africa place Kaunda who obviously saved the lives of many people? Why does Africa not celebrate Kaunda for the help he offered to the region’s independence?
At one time Kaunda fell ill and was stuck in a Windhoek hospital, yet that news was never run on front pages but found itself buried deep in the stomach of the papers.
But when Mandela falls ill, every paper across the world scrambles to get the story.
If at all, isn’t a hero a person who fights for human rights; a person who sacrifices everything for the benefit of others; a person who fights injustice; a person whose life is surrendered for other?
This is what Mandela did but Kaunda did more than just sitting in jail for 27 years but actively fought for the region against apartheid South Africa for the independence of Namibia and South Africa; against the Rhodesian regime for the independence of Zimbabwe; against the Portuguese for the independence of Mozambique and Angola.
If we want to play the numbers’ game, how many lives did Kaunda save and how many did Mandela save? And why does Africa especially southern Africa ignore the man who gave everything for them?
If one fights for the end of oppression, isn’t that person fighting for peace; for human rights; for justice; for fairness?
So is Kaunda not a hero; an international icon and a statesman?
Isn’t that person a suitable candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize which the US president Barack Obama won despite his government still prowling the killing fields in Afghanistan, Iraq and many other parts of the world?
What about Julius Nyerere? He too like Kaunda stood by the continent giving space to people running away from their countries.
He fought for the betterment of others even at the expense of his own country and people.
Without the likes of Nyerere, southern African countries would not have realised the independence dream. Just like Kaunda, Nyerere put
the lives of his people on line because the apartheid
regime would fly its squadrons across the borders just to massacre refuges in Tanzania.
So isn’t Nyerere a hero? Isn’t he a statesman; a freedom fighter; a human rights defender; and an international icon?
Didn’t Kaunda and Nyerere fight for democracy if at all democracy is the key word in defining heroes?
And how does Africa define the late Mozambican president Samora Machel who also opened up his country for revolutionary movements from the then
Rhodesia and SA? Did he not fight for democracy? And just why does he not qualify to be a continental hero?
While Kaunda, Nyerere and Samora fought for the independence and the human rights for millions of people in the region, their contribution is not recognised.
Kaunda’s sacrifices
In a 2001 report titled ‘Zambia Against Apartheid’ compiled by and the Justice Centre for Theological Reflection (JCTR) estimates the cost of southern Africa’s war on Zambia at US$19b.
Of this figure, US$5,34b was incurred fighting apartheid alone. The report notes that 2010 figures ‘should be higher’. “Support for liberation of Zimbabwe and others contributed to Zambia going into debt and through harsh IMF and World Bank debt conditions, staying in debt. “And some forces that for gain supported racist regimes have come through other windows and are getting facilities and resources built by Zambia during the liberation. “In April 1994, when apartheid South Africa changed and Nelson Mandela became president, Africa’s liberation sights were reached. But for Zambia, there were no organised international or local processes of healing from Southern Africa’s war of liberation,” the report further says.
In an interview with Harry Kreisler, Executive Director of UC Berkeley’s Institute of International Studies and Executive Producer of Conversations with History, Dr Kaunda admits this fact: “We opened our doors and all liberation movements moved from Tanzania to Zambia. That meant being bombed from time to time by South African war planes.
“Zimbabwe, Southern Rhodesia in those days, the Portuguese in Angola, the Portuguese in Mozambique, the settlers in Namibia, all these were now attacking Zambia because they wanted us to fear that accommodating liberation movements meant being bombed, bridges being destroyed; you build, they will bomb them again, and so on. “Oil places, where you hide your oil, they come and bomb and destroy those. This is what life then was, but it was something we had to do. When God says, ‘Love they neighbor as thyself’ and ‘Do unto others as you’d have them do unto you’ there’s no choice there, if you understood that. We understood that, we accepted it, we worked together.” Dr Kaunda further says his desire and that of the people of Zambia was to see other countries free from ‘people
who did not believe that people of all races were God’s children’. “We were not fighting for independence of Zambia; we were also very much concerned with seeing to it that our neighbours in that region were becoming independent. “Angola, west of us; Mozambique, west of us; Zimbabwe, south of us; South West Africa (Namibia) and of course, South Africa itself . . .” he said.
Considering all this, how honestly can people say Kaunda ran down the Zambian economy?
Nelson Mandela the terrorist
While Kaunda was fighting for the freedom and democratic rights of millions of people, the US and UK had placed Mandela on their terrorist list despite that he was fighting against apartheid.
It only emerged last week that the raid by the apartheid regime 50 years ago on Mandela’s hideout at Liliesleaf farm was engineered by the British.
According to Denis Goldberg, a white communist who was a bomb maker and ended up detained together with Mandela, a British intelligence agent posed as a birdwatcher while spying on Mandela and his comrades.
Goldberg also said the British supplied the apartheid police information resulting in the raid carried out on 11 July 1963.
"We believe that there was a British intelligence agent in the nearby caravan park. Everyone thought he was a birdwatcher because he would climb up a telegraph pole with binoculars every day. But I think we were the birds he was watching,” Goldberg said during the 50th celebration of the raid.
It was because of the British intelligence that Mandela was imprisoned for 27 years and ironically it’s the British today who have become Mandela’s biggest worshippers.
On their part, the Americans wasted no time in place
Mandela on their terrorist list until 2008 – seven years after South Africa’s independence.
This action by both the UK and the USA meant that they supported apartheid even though the United Nations had sanctioned the regime.
It was because of this support for apartheid which, in the eyes of the west, does not see and make Kaunda, Nyerere and Machel heroes because they fought against the very system the two sought to prop up.
Lame excuses and reasons
So far two arguments have been forwarded as to why Mandela is an international icon; that he did not stay long in power and that he forgave the people who wasted his 27 years in jail.
The reality is that Mandela would not come out a belligerent man because his release was negotiated and there is no doubt that one condition was reconciliation and forgiveness.
In any case, nowhere in the region did a black government chase out whites after attaining independence. After a protracted war, Zimbabwe’s independence was negotiated so was Namibia’s and no white man was chased out.
Second, most people say Kaunda presided over a one-party state. But the political atmosphere then demanded that model which was borrowed from the then Soviet Union. Every country in the region from Kamuzu Banda’s Malawi down to apartheid South Africa was a virtual one-party state in accordance to the Cold War Era.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:53pm On Aug 22, 2013
The small minds are even more confused. They have been saying that Madiba is no hero. But they look for salvation in pieces that confirm that Madiba is indeed a hero, while inviting Africa to bring others into the light of recognition. Small minds do not recognise that there is enough room for more than one. In their small minds, there can only be one. Only one oga, they believe. But the enlightened know that recognising others does not take away from those that are already recognised. Small minds wish to take away. They have nothing to give. Even the pieces that they quote confirm this.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by otumfour(m): 3:56pm On Aug 22, 2013
GOD BLESS GHANA! grin grin grin grin grin

These monkey nigerians on here throwing weak jabs @ Ghana when we ain't done shyt to them.....

SOUTH AFRICA! KEEP SHINING!!!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by collynzo2(m): 3:58pm On Aug 22, 2013
They say all others see Mandela as a hero, this one doesn't. This Jamaican doesn't.
The ANC government has done very little to empower the suffering black population, but it seems as though the powerful western media is more interested in trying to make Mr Mandela a political saint, because the ANC regime is not interested in making political changes that will affect those big mining companies that are exploiting workers since the days of the apartheid system.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:58pm On Aug 22, 2013
otumfour: GOD BLESS GHANA! grin grin grin grin grin

These monkey nigerians on here throwing weak jabs @ Ghana when we ain't done shyt to them.....

SOUTH AFRICA! KEEP SHINING!!!!!

Ghana's biggest sin was to be the better country. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by collynzo2(m): 3:59pm On Aug 22, 2013
What makes big news headlines about Sub-Sahara Africa is of great interest to western media and western powers that have political interests to protect on the African continent. For the past couple weeks the western media has been making Nelson Mandela into a political saint. And while writers and television commentators were giving all the praises and well wishes to ailing Mandela, Rwanda-backed Tutsi rebels were terrorizing Congolese villagers inside the Democratic Republic of Congo. Thousands of villagers had to seek refuge across the border in neighboring Uganda. And while most television viewers in the western world are familiar with the name Nelson Mandela, they do not know who President Paul Kagame of Rwanda is and what role he is playing in the destabilization of the Congo, even though they might have seen the document “The Rwanda Genocide.” But they are not politically conscious about what is going in most black African countries. They have no idea of why some Congolese villagers are being terrorized by armed men and who is supplying these armed men with the weapons. However, they know that Nelson Mandela is ill and he is getting very good medical treatment from top medical doctors in South Africa. Just recently there was a war of words between Tanzania and Rwanda over the M23 Tutsi rebels’ invasion of Eastern Congo. The Tanzanian leadership has threatened to strike Rwanda for its military support given to the rebels that keep crossing from Rwanda into the Congo and committing crimes against humanity. In addition, the United States president keeps warning the Rwandan dictator Paul Kagame about his role in the
Congo but, based on the western media interest, the ailing Nelson Mandela is of more interest than the suffering people in Eastern Congo. In this big global village we are living in, everybody has a right to give their opinion and say what and how they feel about things that are of interest to them. However, I think that the social and political situation in South Africa since the ANC came to power has not changed in the interest of black people. The ANC government has done very little to empower the suffering black population, but it seems as though the powerful western media is more interested in trying to make Mr Mandela a political saint, because the ANC regime is not interested in making political changes that will affect those big mining companies that are exploiting workers since the days of the apartheid system. The ANC has disbanded its original manifesto and, most likely, behind the scenes the ANC leadership must have bargained some kind of political deal with the former leaders of the racist apartheid system, whereby the ANC will become the ruling elected party with black leadership but they will not interfere with the economic power base established
under the old apartheid system. Unfortunately, it seems as though the media promotion of Mr. Mandela as a god forgiving person has captured the minds of millions of black people globally. Now that Mr. Mandela is very old and sick, there is great concern that his departure from this life will create tension within the ruling ANC. The black political elite that are benefiting from this present ANC regime are scared that other members within the party ranks might want to make some social and political changes in the interest of the majority of suffering poor uneducated black population, who still live in some of the most miserable living conditions, worse than their African brothers and sisters in Brazil ghettos. In addition, some people believe that out of evil come good things in the future but in the case of what is going on in most parts of Africa, especially in South Africa and the Democratic Republic of Congo, it seems as though out of good comes evil. The rich natural resources in those two countries attract envious business people and powerful political leaders across the globe and, due to that enviousness by outside forces, the citizens of those two countries are suffering. Their human values are not respected because they are living on lands that are rich in natural resources. And as we are seeing presently on the television news reports, Congolese citizens are running away from their homes and villages because armed bandits from a neighboring country keep invading their lands, and stealing the rich natural resources in the interest of some big foreign companies, while the United Nations is doing very little to stop the crisis. In South Africa, the situation is almost the same as in the Congo, even though there is no foreign military invasion terrorizing the masses of South African people. However, the power structure that Mr Mandela and his ANC party inherited from the apartheid system still remains the same. The predominately black ANC government is just a group of politicians with darker skin color

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:59pm On Aug 22, 2013
They now quote an article talking about the "ANC government", when Mandela is not even in government. Still, they offer us nothing about their own land, because their own land has offered them nothing. With their argument in disarray, and instead of reaching deep inside to find something positive in their story for us to see and marvel at, they look to focus on the stories of South Africa and Ghana. They are the smaller beings. Their story is untold and incapable of being told. So they lash out at greatness.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by otumfour(m): 4:02pm On Aug 22, 2013
Augustine Again: .

all the citizens of Ghana on this forum are so ashamed of their Ghana nation, so they decide to post south african things....why are you running away from your own Kofi Nene bloodline ?

Ghana has no hero ? Ghana has no weapons ? Ghana has no war history ?

surely your fellow Ghanians are very 'proud' of how you put your country inside south africa's tiny pocket tongue tongue tongue




ur moda and fada are the 1's ashamed of that filthy fat sore and scar disgracing Africa called nigeria

throw away ur 1990 looking generator and see if u can even live for a day, murthafurking nigerian ape

filthy nigerian peasant



Now y'all got what u wanted on this thread abi undecided...u wanna attract Ghanaians on here to come diss poor nigeria grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by otumfour(m): 4:04pm On Aug 22, 2013
Die*Vluit:
They now quote an article talking about the "ANC government", when Mandela is not even in government. Still, they offer us nothing about their own land, because their own land has offered them nothing. With their argument in disarray, and instead of reaching deep inside to find something positive in their story for us to see and marvel at, they look to focus on the stories of South Africa and Ghana. They are the smaller beings. Their story is untold and incapable of being told. So they lash out at greatness.


Can u blame them?

they are apes running a country grin grin grin grin grin

they can't vene stand each other, they only come together when Ghana or S.A. is mentioned, nigerian monkeys they are grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:07pm On Aug 22, 2013
otumfour:


Can u blame them?

they are apes running a country grin grin grin grin grin

they can't vene stand each other, they only come together when Ghana or S.A. is mentioned, nigerian monkeys they are grin grin grin grin grin

Indeed. And this is why they live live they live. A lower existence begotten by a lower consciousness.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by collynzo2(m): 4:07pm On Aug 22, 2013
otumfour: GOD BLESS GHANA! grin grin grin grin grin

These monkey nigerians on here throwing weak jabs @ Ghana when we ain't done shyt to them.....

SOUTH AFRICA! KEEP SHINING!!!!!
How do you feel seeing that your 'Gyans' and 'kwames' are ashamed of calling themselves Gaynaians?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by otumfour(m): 4:09pm On Aug 22, 2013
Ghana en Zuid-Afrika zullen altijd beter dan deze nigeriaanse apen zijn


grin grin grin grin grin grin grin


De nigeriaanse apen zullen altijd onder mijn laars zijn grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by otumfour(m): 4:11pm On Aug 22, 2013
collynzo2: How do you feel seeing that your 'Gyans' and 'kwames' are ashamed of calling themselves Gaynaians?


how do u feel abt ur monkey leaders smashing their heads wit mace during a sitting ?


it juz says a lot abt u animals grin grin grin grin

btw, how is that ur rusty nasty room? grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:12pm On Aug 22, 2013
Can the small people do such? The results of leadership, legacy and a solid story.

http://www.ghanabusinessnews.com/2013/08/16/ghana-hints-exporting-excess-electricity-to-burkina-faso-mali/

President John Dramani Mahama on Thursday hinted that Ghana would soon transmit excess electricity to Burkina Faso and Mali as soon as work on the West Africa Gas Pipeline and Power Pool Project (WAGP) was completed.
He has also promised to expand trade and commercial activities with Burkina Faso by increasing the evacuation of goods through the ports and by stepping up commercial links in tomatoes, maize and other relevant food crops.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:24pm On Aug 22, 2013
All they can do is point and stare. They have generated nothing inspirational. They have witnessed nothing inspirational. They are uninspired and therefore, their first reaction is to drag and pull...not push and elevate. How could they push and elevate when they know nothing about elevation?

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