Msauza:

What is there to see because the page is even broken?

I am waiting for a functional link, not the one above because it shows an error message or is this some other scam by 419 gang?

Weak excuse and you claim you went to two Universities? Where are your research skills? Page is broken? Check your outdated PC or mobile device! Error message? Check your poor internet access! Can't afford that? Then check for the same link that I posted initially on the thread! If you can't ... then you are a FOOL. Google is your friend ... search word ... "WEF Report 2013". Page 324 and 325.

Product of a poor quality educational system ... South Africans!!

collynzo2:

When people refuse to see beyond their noses, they immerse themselves in their self generated hype. They said it's only Nigerians who don't see Mandela as an African hero, but this Zambian said he isn't even a regional (Southern African) hero and that is a fact!



"When people refuse to see beyond their noses, they immerse themselves in their self generated hype. They said it's only Nigerians who don't see Mandela as an African hero, but this Zambian said he isn't even a regional (Souther African) hero and that is a fact!
Africa must decide who is a hero and who is not. So far, the outside world decides for Africa just like they have pushed the Coca Cola brand toeven represent every other cool drink there is on the market.
Without taking away anything from the ailing former South African president Nelson Mandela, Africa should reflect on other leaders who sacrificed their careers and people for the regional democracy and independence.
Mandela is a hero of course, but can he be more a hero than the people who fought for his release? Yes, the whole of Africa stood by Mandela with the then Frontline States making a lot of noise about his release.
Take Kenneth Kaunda for example. He put his country’s development and the lives of his people on the line just to help southern African countries attain independence.
Mozambican, Angolan, Namibian, Zimbabwean and South African refugees and freedom fighters sought refuge in Zambia where the Rhodesian and apartheid governments would send planes to bomb from time to time.
So where does Africa place Kaunda who obviously saved the lives of many people? Why does Africa not celebrate Kaunda for the help he offered to the region’s independence?
At one time Kaunda fell ill and was stuck in a Windhoek hospital, yet that news was never run on front pages but found itself buried deep in the stomach of the papers.
But when Mandela falls ill, every paper across the world scrambles to get the story.
If at all, isn’t a hero a person who fights for human rights; a person who sacrifices everything for the benefit of others; a person who fights injustice; a person whose life is surrendered for other?
This is what Mandela did but Kaunda did more than just sitting in jail for 27 years but actively fought for the region against apartheid South Africa for the independence of Namibia and South Africa; against the Rhodesian regime for the independence of Zimbabwe; against the Portuguese for the independence of Mozambique and Angola.
If we want to play the numbers’ game, how many lives did Kaunda save and how many did Mandela save? And why does Africa especially southern Africa ignore the man who gave everything for them?
If one fights for the end of oppression, isn’t that person fighting for peace; for human rights; for justice; for fairness?
So is Kaunda not a hero; an international icon and a statesman?
Isn’t that person a suitable candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize which the US president Barack Obama won despite his government still prowling the killing fields in Afghanistan, Iraq and many other parts of the world?
What about Julius Nyerere? He too like Kaunda stood by the continent giving space to people running away from their countries.
He fought for the betterment of others even at the expense of his own country and people.
Without the likes of Nyerere, southern African countries would not have realised the independence dream. Just like Kaunda, Nyerere put
the lives of his people on line because the apartheid
regime would fly its squadrons across the borders just to massacre refuges in Tanzania.
So isn’t Nyerere a hero? Isn’t he a statesman; a freedom fighter; a human rights defender; and an international icon?
Didn’t Kaunda and Nyerere fight for democracy if at all democracy is the key word in defining heroes?
And how does Africa define the late Mozambican president Samora Machel who also opened up his country for revolutionary movements from the then
Rhodesia and SA? Did he not fight for democracy? And just why does he not qualify to be a continental hero?
While Kaunda, Nyerere and Samora fought for the independence and the human rights for millions of people in the region, their contribution is not recognised.
Kaunda’s sacrifices
In a 2001 report titled ‘Zambia Against Apartheid’ compiled by and the Justice Centre for Theological Reflection (JCTR) estimates the cost of southern Africa’s war on Zambia at US$19b.
Of this figure, US$5,34b was incurred fighting apartheid alone. The report notes that 2010 figures ‘should be higher’. “Support for liberation of Zimbabwe and others contributed to Zambia going into debt and through harsh IMF and World Bank debt conditions, staying in debt. “And some forces that for gain supported racist regimes have come through other windows and are getting facilities and resources built by Zambia during the liberation. “In April 1994, when apartheid South Africa changed and Nelson Mandela became president, Africa’s liberation sights were reached. But for Zambia, there were no organised international or local processes of healing from Southern Africa’s war of liberation,” the report further says.
In an interview with Harry Kreisler, Executive Director of UC Berkeley’s Institute of International Studies and Executive Producer of Conversations with History, Dr Kaunda admits this fact: “We opened our doors and all liberation movements moved from Tanzania to Zambia. That meant being bombed from time to time by South African war planes.
“Zimbabwe, Southern Rhodesia in those days, the Portuguese in Angola, the Portuguese in Mozambique, the settlers in Namibia, all these were now attacking Zambia because they wanted us to fear that accommodating liberation movements meant being bombed, bridges being destroyed; you build, they will bomb them again, and so on. “Oil places, where you hide your oil, they come and bomb and destroy those. This is what life then was, but it was something we had to do. When God says, ‘Love they neighbor as thyself’ and ‘Do unto others as you’d have them do unto you’ there’s no choice there, if you understood that. We understood that, we accepted it, we worked together.” Dr Kaunda further says his desire and that of the people of Zambia was to see other countries free from ‘people
who did not believe that people of all races were God’s children’. “We were not fighting for independence of Zambia; we were also very much concerned with seeing to it that our neighbours in that region were becoming independent. “Angola, west of us; Mozambique, west of us; Zimbabwe, south of us; South West Africa (Namibia) and of course, South Africa itself . . .” he said.
Considering all this, how honestly can people say Kaunda ran down the Zambian economy?
Nelson Mandela the terrorist
While Kaunda was fighting for the freedom and democratic rights of millions of people, the US and UK had placed Mandela on their terrorist list despite that he was fighting against apartheid.
It only emerged last week that the raid by the apartheid regime 50 years ago on Mandela’s hideout at Liliesleaf farm was engineered by the British.
According to Denis Goldberg, a white communist who was a bomb maker and ended up detained together with Mandela, a British intelligence agent posed as a birdwatcher while spying on Mandela and his comrades.
Goldberg also said the British supplied the apartheid police information resulting in the raid carried out on 11 July 1963.
"We believe that there was a British intelligence agent in the nearby caravan park. Everyone thought he was a birdwatcher because he would climb up a telegraph pole with binoculars every day. But I think we were the birds he was watching,” Goldberg said during the 50th celebration of the raid.
It was because of the British intelligence that Mandela was imprisoned for 27 years and ironically it’s the British today who have become Mandela’s biggest worshippers.
On their part, the Americans wasted no time in place
Mandela on their terrorist list until 2008 – seven years after South Africa’s independence.
This action by both the UK and the USA meant that they supported apartheid even though the United Nations had sanctioned the regime.
It was because of this support for apartheid which, in the eyes of the west, does not see and make Kaunda, Nyerere and Machel heroes because they fought against the very system the two sought to prop up.
Lame excuses and reasons
So far two arguments have been forwarded as to why Mandela is an international icon; that he did not stay long in power and that he forgave the people who wasted his 27 years in jail.
The reality is that Mandela would not come out a belligerent man because his release was negotiated and there is no doubt that one condition was reconciliation and forgiveness.
In any case, nowhere in the region did a black government chase out whites after attaining independence. After a protracted war, Zimbabwe’s independence was negotiated so was Namibia’s and no white man was chased out.
Second, most people say Kaunda presided over a one-party state. But the political atmosphere then demanded that model which was borrowed from the then Soviet Union. Every country in the region from Kamuzu Banda’s Malawi down to apartheid South Africa was a virtual one-party state in accordance to the Cold War Era."

hahhahaha ....truth is a bitter pill to swallow in soweto

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VERY APPROPRIATE MUSIC FOR A MILITARY THREAD,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGU1P6lBW6Q

AwodwaGyanOniwe: Yes ooooooooooo, DOG EATER.

Look at him in full SA kit.

He speaks Twi/Chwi, Sesotho,Zulu and Xhosa, English like me.

Kwasia

oh ! sorry, i didnt know you mean Kofi, your fellow Ghanaian economic refugee in south africa

birds of the same dirty feather...fly together

collynzo2:

What makes big news headlines about Sub-Sahara Africa is of great interest to western media and western powers that have political interests to protect on the African continent. For the past couple weeks the western media has been making Nelson Mandela into a political saint. And while writers and television commentators were giving all the praises and well wishes to ailing Mandela, Rwanda-backed Tutsi rebels were terrorizing Congolese villagers inside the Democratic Republic of Congo. Thousands of villagers had to seek refuge across the border in neighboring Uganda. And while most television viewers in the western world are familiar with the name Nelson Mandela, they do not know who President Paul Kagame of Rwanda is and what role he is playing in the destabilization of the Congo, even though they might have seen the document “The Rwanda Genocide.” But they are not politically conscious about what is going in most black African countries. They have no idea of why some Congolese villagers are being terrorized by armed men and who is supplying these armed men with the weapons. However, they know that Nelson Mandela is ill and he is getting very good medical treatment from top medical doctors in South Africa. Just recently there was a war of words between Tanzania and Rwanda over the M23 Tutsi rebels’ invasion of Eastern Congo. The Tanzanian leadership has threatened to strike Rwanda for its military support given to the rebels that keep crossing from Rwanda into the Congo and committing crimes against humanity. In addition, the United States president keeps warning the Rwandan dictator Paul Kagame about his role in the
Congo but, based on the western media interest, the ailing Nelson Mandela is of more interest than the suffering people in Eastern Congo. In this big global village we are living in, everybody has a right to give their opinion and say what and how they feel about things that are of interest to them. However, I think that the social and political situation in South Africa since the ANC came to power has not changed in the interest of black people. The ANC government has done very little to empower the suffering black population, but it seems as though the powerful western media is more interested in trying to make Mr Mandela a political saint, because the ANC regime is not interested in making political changes that will affect those big mining companies that are exploiting workers since the days of the apartheid system. The ANC has disbanded its original manifesto and, most likely, behind the scenes the ANC leadership must have bargained some kind of political deal with the former leaders of the racist apartheid system, whereby the ANC will become the ruling elected party with black leadership but they will not interfere with the economic power base established
under the old apartheid system. Unfortunately, it seems as though the media promotion of Mr. Mandela as a god forgiving person has captured the minds of millions of black people globally. Now that Mr. Mandela is very old and sick, there is great concern that his departure from this life will create tension within the ruling ANC. The black political elite that are benefiting from this present ANC regime are scared that other members within the party ranks might want to make some social and political changes in the interest of the majority of suffering poor uneducated black population, who still live in some of the most miserable living conditions, worse than their African brothers and sisters in Brazil ghettos. In addition, some people believe that out of evil come good things in the future but in the case of what is going on in most parts of Africa, especially in South Africa and the Democratic Republic of Congo, it seems as though out of good comes evil. The rich natural resources in those two countries attract envious business people and powerful political leaders across the globe and, due to that enviousness by outside forces, the citizens of those two countries are suffering. Their human values are not respected because they are living on lands that are rich in natural resources. And as we are seeing presently on the television news reports, Congolese citizens are running away from their homes and villages because armed bandits from a neighboring country keep invading their lands, and stealing the rich natural resources in the interest of some big foreign companies, while the United Nations is doing very little to stop the crisis. In South Africa, the situation is almost the same as in the Congo, even though there is no foreign military invasion terrorizing the masses of South African people. However, the power structure that Mr Mandela and his ANC party inherited from the apartheid system still remains the same. The predominately black ANC government is just a group of politicians with darker skin color

wow ! so the black ANC political class is busy R.aping all south africans economically, while Zuma does it physically.

dog eat dog. chop clean mouth.

Die*Vluit:
We talk about universal leaders. Small minds talk about Ghana's dance. Small minds have nothing to show. Ghana does not need a dance to be recognised. Just like I said: small minds celebrate small things. Things like dance. It's because of the legacy they were given. The legacy of the absence of light.

...but your small posts and the small micro-sense in it, shows you are the one that really has a small mind.

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Msauza:

If we do the same to your fellow country men then it becomes a problem. Ghanaians went back and built Ghana to what it is today, the fastest growing economy in Africa. Not for long they will be ruling the whole of west Africa and returned back that favour once hungry Nigerians start to flog in their territory. Watch this space!!!

compare nigeria vs ghana...GDP, Dollar cash reserve, Mineral wealth reserve, Market size, Foreign direct investments, etc.

after that, go kiss the nearest housefly

AwodwaGyanOniwe: MANKGAILE PRIMARY SCHOOL IN LIMPOPO.

SOUTH AFRICA IS KNOWN FOR ITS "TALENTED ENGINEERS,ARCHITECTS,DOCTORS ETC..".

Imaginary Primary School in Limpopo! Where text books meant for kids are never delivered, seen, or used by school pupils? Desperation has led you to post this badly photoshopped image assembly of different unrelated images! Check out the fake shadows of the two kids with the skipping rope and the fake grass which does not blend naturally with the foundation of building. The direction of the actual and fake shadows tell of different light sources.

Even this Ghanaian will go on overdrive to justify his pathetic wannabe SA status You better find more images to justify the shaky reason your paymasters are keeping you on their flank ... because the day you fail or fall short of their weak objectives ... your Ghana-Must-Go bag and one-way ticket to Accra will be handed to you!!

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1266155_mankgale_jpgfa228dc585eb6696ae149c95551c560f

Msauza:

If we do the same to your fellow country men then it becomes a problem. Ghanaians went back and built Ghana to what it is today, the fastest growing economy in Africa.

if south africa expels 250,000 nigerians we wont feel one pinch, many of those nigerians will just head for Europe, then we too will expel MTN and you lose 50 million customers. we expel SASOL and you lose the multi-billion dollar oil and gas business. Jacob Zuma will run to Abuja and beg Goodluck Jonathan saying that it was the devil that pushed him in Pretoria.

you think nigeria is Togo or Congo ? its hard to fight a giant.

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Msauza:

What is it that is more special about your education than our 33.3% pass system? You education system is a rot and we all know that your poorly paid teachers can simply be bribed to give distinctions to where it is not due. You civil servants are poorly remunerated because your country is damned poor bra, live with it.

There is nothing we fear about your filthy education, because I used to school with many Nigerians who subsequently dropped out because they couldn't cope with SA high standard of education. They even went as far as faking our qualifications because it was not easy to achieve them as it was it Nigeria.

Nigerians faking matric certificates in South Africa arrested.

http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/c033558049318b2aa178ed0f1468ba5f/Fake-matric-certificate-suspects-denied-bail-20111125

2 nigerians out of 250,000 nigerians.

do some maths, calculate that as a percentage and tell us the answer in one sig fig (if you know what that terminology means)

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Msauza: South Africa has better resourced schools with better laboratories than Nigeria. That's a fact!! We can afford to hire the best teachers around to come specially to teach our children

...you hired nigerian teachers to teach south africans mathematics and science in your own country. do you want me to repeat that post the 7th time here ?

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AwodwaGyanOniwe: In CAPE TOWN, IMIZAMO YETHU TOWNSHIP
DISA PRIMARY SCHOOL.

oh yes, that computer is being used to upgrade her 33% south african brain up to 39% maximum soweto capacity

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agaugust:


if south africa expels 250,000 nigerians we wont feel one pinch, many of those nigerians will just head for Europe, then we too will expel MTN and you lose 50 million customers. we expel SASOL and you lose the multi-billion dollar oil and gas business. Jacob Zuma will run to Abuja and beg Goodluck Jonathan saying that it was the devil that pushed him in Pretoria.

you think nigeria is Togo or Congo ? its hard to fight a giant.

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you forgot that they tried it and quickly ran to international media to beg for forgiveness.

Msauza:

What is it that is more special about your education than our 33.3% pass system? You education system is a rot and we all know that your poorly paid teachers can simply be bribed to give distinctions to where it is not due. You civil servants are poorly remunerated because your country is damned poor bra, live with it.

There is nothing we fear about your filthy education, because I used to school with many Nigerians who subsequently dropped out because they couldn't cope with SA high standard of education. They even went as far as faking our qualifications because it was not easy to achieve them as it was it Nigeria.

Nigerians faking matric certificates in South Africa arrested.

http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/c033558049318b2aa178ed0f1468ba5f/Fake-matric-certificate-suspects-denied-bail-20111125

You can make Nigerians the scapegoats of the obvious and revalidated fact (by the link you provided) that South Africans are lazy, brainless, and despicably of low (33%) brain capacity! They want certificates yet they do not want to spend 12 years earning a valid high school qualification. The law of economics is simple ... where there is demand there must be supply! Your lazy kith and kin want a job so desperately yet they fail to get qualified ... and those two silly but sharp Nigerians have unknowingly helped to reveal what the World Economic Forum Global Information technology Report FY2013 has pointed out ... SA has one of the weakest educational systems in the World. South Africans think they can buy a brain with R2000? Anyways try some other argument! SA is bottom four in world education to be specific!

I am reposting again for your benefit:

I wonder when the word "broken" began to have different meanings based on "standards". It that case since our educational standards in Nigeria are far higher than what you have in South Africa ... we must then add "totally broken" to Sizwe's article or Bekezela Phakathi's report for total impact! You claim South Africans don't have to do foundation courses, yet less than two (2%) percent of South African applicants ever qualify to enrol in UK Universities.

To a dull CraigB, a very crisp and succinct article is long-winded when it is loaded with truths like this one:

"The World Economic Forum Global Information Technology report, released this year, ranked the quality of South Africa’s education system 140th out of 144 countries. It ranked SA’s maths and science education second last in the world — ahead only of Yemen."

Excerpts from : Outsourcing plan proposed for SA’s public schools by Bekezela Phakathi.
http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/education/2013/08/07/outsourcing-plan-proposed-for-sas-public-schools

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Therefore readers (Nigerian and South African) please find the complete World Economic Forum Global Information Technology Report 2013 here: http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GITR_Report_2013.pdf

Waste no time when report is fully downloaded ... go to:

page 324 refer to Table 5.01 Quality of Educational System
page 325 refer to Table 5.02 Quality of Math and Science Education

I leave the rest to your thoughts and analysis!!

Blame Nigerians all you want ... your certificates are worth nothing actually!

NaijaPikinGidi:


You can make Nigerians the scapegoats of the obvious and revalidated fact (by the link you provided) that South Africans are lazy, brainless, and despicably of low (33%) brain capacity! They want certificates yet they do not want to spend 12 years earning a valid high school qualification. The law of economics is simple ... where there is demand there must be supply! Your lazy kith and kin want a job so desperately yet they fail to get qualified ... and those two silly but sharp Nigerians have unknowingly helped to reveal what the World Economic Forum Global Information technology Report FY2013 has pointed out ... SA has one of the weakest educational systems in the World. South Africans think they can buy a brain with R2000? Anyways try some other argument! SA is bottom four in world education to be specific!

I am reposting again for your benefit:


I wonder when the word "broken" began to have different meanings based on "standards". It that case since our educational standards in Nigeria are far higher than what you have in South Africa ... we must then add "totally broken" to Sizwe's article or Bekezela Phakathi's report for total impact! You claim South Africans don't have to do foundation courses, yet less than two (2%) percent of South African applicants ever qualify to enrol in UK Universities.

To a dull CraigB, a very crisp and succinct article is long-winded when it is loaded with truths like this one:

"The World Economic Forum Global Information Technology report, released this year, ranked the quality of South Africa’s education system 140th out of 144 countries. It ranked SA’s maths and science education second last in the world — ahead only of Yemen."

Excerpts from : Outsourcing plan proposed for SA’s public schools by Bekezela Phakathi.
http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/education/2013/08/07/outsourcing-plan-proposed-for-sas-public-schools

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Therefore readers (Nigerian and South African) please find the complete World Economic Forum Global Information Technology Report 2013 here: http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GITR_Report_2013.pdf

Waste no time when report is fully downloaded ... go to:

page 324 refer to Table 5.01 Quality of Educational System
page 325 refer to Table 5.02 Quality of Math and Science Education

I leave the rest to your thoughts and analysis!!



Blame Nigerians all you want ... your certificates are worth nothing actually!

difference between a nigerian and a south african :


if you want south africans to run away from this forum, bring up stuff about mathematics and sciences, the mandela boys will run away so fast you will think it is Seleka rebels chasing them .



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agaugust:


difference between a nigerian and a south african :


if you want south africans to run away from this forum, bring up stuff about mathematics and sciences, the mandela boys will run away so fast you will think it is Seleka rebels chasing them .



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NaijaPikinGidi:

Weak excuse and you claim you went to two Universities? Where are your research skills? Page is broken? Check your outdated PC or mobile device! Error message? Check your poor internet access! Can't afford that? Then check for the same link that I posted initially on the thread! If you can't ... then you are a FOOL. Google is your friend ... search word ... "WEF Report 2013". Page 324 and 325.

Product of a poor quality educational system ... South Africans!!

It is still amazing how poor our education is when thousands of Nigerians live their shores from all the best universities in the world to relocate to SA and have their own share of poor quality education. It is even more perplexing to see how a poor LESOTHO student schooled in a mud premises can have his school ranked above those of SA. Moreover, Botswana and Zimbabwe which both ranks above SA, in terms of WEF keep on sending number of their citizens to SA to further their education, particularly on Medicine and Engineering.

We have the best doctors and engineers in Africa who were produced from that poor quality education which is aspired by millions of Africans.

The rankings as dismissed by the ANC were just a western tool to discredit the ANC government for their strong anti-imperialist stance

Msauza:

It is still amazing how poor our education is when thousands of Nigerians live their shores from all the best universities in the world to relocate to SA and have their own share of poor quality education.

nigerians keep coming into your south African schools to score 83% in the same classroom exams where you south africans are scoring 33% in your homelands. get it ?

@Msauza
I wanted to RESPOND LONG AGO but was blocked by naai-gerians.

Everyone knows what the west is doing in SA. They made sure they control the PRINT MEDIA, most white controlled newspapers are funded by OUTSIDERS/UE/US.

I will never take their cr@p SERIOUSLY, remember not so ago before the SOCCER WORLD CUP. WE HAD British,German,US,NZ,Australian media warning everyone about SA.

DESPITE THIS WE HOSTED "ONE OF THE BEST WORLD CUPS".

NaijaPikinGidi:


You can make Nigerians the scapegoats of the obvious and revalidated fact (by the link you provided) that South Africans are lazy, brainless, and despicably of low (33%) brain capacity! They want certificates yet they do not want to spend 12 years earning a valid high school qualification. The law of economics is simple ... where there is demand there must be supply! Your lazy kith and kin want a job so desperately yet they fail to get qualified ... and those two silly but sharp Nigerians have unknowingly helped to reveal what the World Economic Forum Global Information technology Report FY2013 has pointed out ... SA has one of the weakest educational systems in the World. South Africans think they can buy a brain with R2000? Anyways try some other argument! SA is bottom four in world education to be specific!

I am reposting again for your benefit:





Blame Nigerians all you want ... your certificates are worth nothing actually!

You are very wrong sir, to us it reflects very bad. Faking of qualifications by Nigerians tells us that they are nothing but fraudsters, it tells that Agaugust might as well have faked his MBA certificate. There are many Nigerian gangs who were arrested doing the same and confessed that in Nigeria is just a traditional practice. You can be admitted to Nigerian tertiary education with a fake certificate, that's what they confessed. Surely, those men thought that SA and Nigeria are just the same, they do not verify their qualifications and just admit students. No wonder we give Nigerian student a bridging course which many of them fail because of this reasons of faking their qualifications.

Msauza:

It is still amazing how poor our education is when thousands of Nigerians live their shores from all the best universities in the world to relocate to SA and have their own share of poor quality education. It is even more perplexing to see how a poor LESOTHO student schooled in a mud premises can have his school ranked above those of SA. Moreover, Botswana and Zimbabwe which both ranks above SA, in terms of WEF keep on sending number of their citizens to SA to further their education, particularly on Medicine and Engineering.

We have the best doctors and engineers in Africa who were produced from that poor quality education which is aspired by millions of Africans.

The rankings as dismissed by the ANC were just a western tool to discredit the ANC government for their strong anti-imperialist stance

It still beats me why your brain is so useless! It is not about the nice buildings! It is simply about your weak South African brains! Your poor attitude to learning and your general want to rise to the top without the required qualifications or knowledge. The WEF Report FY2013 is pertinent no matter haow much you try to discredit it! And I see how much you are at pains to deny it.

The biggest poverty of our modern day is the poverty ravaging human brains! And it is OFFICIAL that SA nationals are Africa's greatest victims of this kind of disease!

So cry us the biggest ocean ... you are wasting your time! You surely have the best doctors and engineers because the are foreigners!

[b]@Agaust
THESE ARE naai-gerians LIVING IN S.A. not the ones in your DREAMLAND.
If u talk of professionals teachers,doctors,lectures etc...SA has more SADC professionals than naai-gerians. Same can be said with the number of AFRICAN IMMIGRANTS, MOST COME FROM SADC countries.

Warning to Nigerians coming to South Africa, by Chika Osueze
January 29, 2013 by j j

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For anyone thinking of coming to South Africa from Nigeria, you better do your home work well. Otherwise you will regret at last.

To be fair and honest to South Africa, there are some very nice and wonderful people out there, but they are greatly outnumbered by the bigots among them. I live and work in South Africa and I’ve observed a bias pattern in judicial procedures and policing as regards to corruption and crime prevention.

My assertions are based on my day to day experience and observation as a resident. I have no statistical analysis of the Nigerian population living in South Africa neither do I have the exact figures or nationality of the number of cases prosecuted by the South African judiciary.

From the Nigerian side, the easterners (Igbos) out-number other ethnic groups within the Nigerian community here. That’s why most Nigerians you meet are from the east. A lot (of) Nigerians you meet are not in South Africa to study, though they are enrolled in one college or another, they are semi-illiterates or outright illiterates, very lousy, brash and arrogant (for reasons I don’t understand). Then we have the stranded group who were duped by travel agents into thinking the pasture in South Africa is greener.

In short, you meet criminals of all shapes, size and age. They just sleep, eat, wake up, and hope the next “Mugu” pays. They are so much, you’ll think all Nigerians living in South Africa are criminals, but we have bright students doing well and graduating in South African Universities, we have gainfully employed graduates trained by South Africans themselves (few) and business men and women doing legitimate business exporting goods to and from Nigeria (also few compared to the population of the Nigerian community). But the dot.com or Yahoo boys and drug traffickers are so high in number it seems they’ve all relocated from Nigeria to South Africa. Conditions here favor them.

Basic infrastructure is great here compared to what we have in Nigeria. 24 hours electricity, running water, well laid roads, affordable high speed internet, compact 3/4 bedroom apartment, affordable furniture, little or no scrutiny on international remittance etc. South Africa is a Yahoo Boy’s paradise. Though, most foreigners especially new comers call them as lazy and stupid .

On the South African side, you’ll meet the White Supremacist. A white bigot, loud, aggressive and assertive. He (male and female) hates Blacks and despises Nigerians in particular. He wants to protect the “sanctity” of White superiority; State resources are at his disposal. His opinion and interest supersedes that of others. His ancestors are the second settlers in South Africa. His interpretation of the freedom dictates and guides that the White community must be in control of economic power in South Africa. His favourite question when he meets you for the first time in class or anywhere he sees you provided your black is “Are you a Nigerian?”. He runs the country economically and he knows the “risk” of doing any business with most Nigerians.

Then we have the South African indigenous Chauvinist or the BEE boy, a business tycoon/ hard working student. Drives flashy cars, he believes his ancestors are the real owners of the South. He is rich and he has read stories of Nigerians using South African girls as drug mules, black/chemical money stories; he has seen or read of stranded Nigerians who loiter around the streets of Hillbrow begging for money (these stranded guys don’t shower, so they stink). He cringes when you happen to be in the same elevator, crosses to the other side of the road when you are walking towards each other and always thinks you need something from him any time you try to talk to him. He has held on to so many Nigerian horrible stories and thinks every Nigerian is like that.

Then, we have the Angry Jews, always pissed off and mean-mugging you. He has been discriminated against so much that even his language is not included in the country’s ATM machine .He is always trying to pick fights with you and the first comment he makes is “THIS IS MY COUNTRY!”. He’ll smash his crash helmet on you at the slightest provocation or stab you. He also reads of atrocities committed by Nigerians and sees you as a threat.

So, living in South Africa has made me a racism connoisseur of sought. In fact, I have become so sensitive that I believe I can tell if an individual is racist within a few seconds of being around him or her. There are people in South Africa whose sole purpose in life is just to ruin your day. Racism in South Africa is perfect. It is subtle when it needs to be and brass when necessary.

As a foreigner you might be misled into thinking South Africa is a boring place and no one gives a damn about you, so you can do whatever you like and get away with it. No, you are seriously mistaken. South Africa sometimes feels like the Islamic Republic of Iran we watch on T.V. Some citizens are very nosy and they watch and observe every move you make. I read a news article some weeks ago that says about 80% of Police personnel don’t do normal Policing but rather, spy and gather intelligence.

So, my point is this: South Africa is a tightly controlled society where the authorities decide what business prospers, whether legal or otherwise. Elements within the certain faceless authorities control the drug trade, the distributors are under their command and they arrest them when it’s politically needed to unite the country against a common enemy. We hear of stories of Cuban and Libyan drug traffickers who are quietly deported and warned never to return to South Africa but other nationalities are shown off as trophy in front of news men who broadcast and publish sensational news headlines.

SADC countries are united against drug trafficking and they hold meetings regularly to discuss new strategies on deterrent, Life imprisonment. But our boys would not listen. Too bad.

In all fairness to the South African authorities , Whatever measures they take to combat drug trafficking in this country could be justified considering that foreigners have turned their teenage girls into drug addicts.

Nigerians in South Africa: please behave ethically because God and justice will judge at the end of time.

Chika, a Nigerian, writes from Republic of South Africa[/b]

agaugust:

nigerians keep coming in to score 83% in the same classroom exams where you south africans are scoring 33%. get it ?

Do you mean 83% produced from a marking script which was smuggled beforehand from bribed teacher in Nigeria. Bwahahahahaha!! Better 33% from a fair student than 83% from a corrupt student. We all know ahat you are doing there in Nigeria concerning your qualifications.