NaijaPikinGidi:

It still beats me why your brain is so useless! It is not about the nice buildings! It is simply about your weak South African brains! Your poor attitude to learning and your general want to rise to the top without the required qualifications or knowledge. The WEF Report FY2013 is pertinent no matter haow much you try to discredit it! And I see how much you are at pains to deny it.

The biggest poverty of our modern day is the poverty ravaging human brains! And it is OFFICIAL that SA nationals are Africa's greatest victims of this kind of disease!

So cry us the biggest ocean ... you are wasting your time! You surely have the best doctors and engineers because the are foreigners!

Msauza:

You are very wrong sir, to us it reflects very bad. Faking of qualifications by Nigerians tells us that they are nothing but fraudsters, it tells that Agaugust might as well have faked his MBA certificate. There are many Nigerian gangs who were arrested doing the same and confessed that in Nigeria is just a traditional practice. You can be admitted to Nigerian tertiary education with a fake certificate, that's what they confessed. Surely, those men thought that SA and Nigeria are just the same, they do not verify their qualifications and just admit students. No wonder we give Nigerian student a bridging course which many of them fail because of this reasons of faking their qualifications.

You will note that these are all August 2013 reports!! Stop deceiving yourself I take Olodumare beg you!

Msauza:

Do you mean 83% produced from a marking script which was smuggled beforehand from bribed teacher in Nigeria. Bwahahahahaha!! Better 33% from a fair student than 83% from a corrupt student. We all know ahat you are doing there in Nigeria concerning your qualifications.

agaugust:

nigerians keep coming in to score 83% in the same classroom exams where you south africans are scoring 33%. get it ?

kwame tut: [b]@Agaust
THESE ARE naai-gerians LIVING IN S.A. not the ones in your DREAMLAND.
If u talk of professionals teachers,doctors,lectures etc...SA has more SADC professionals than naai-gerians. Same can be said with the number of AFRICAN IMMIGRANTS, MOST COME FROM SADC countries.

Warning to Nigerians coming to South Africa, by Chika Osueze
January 29, 2013 by j j

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For anyone thinking of coming to South Africa from Nigeria, you better do your home work well. Otherwise you will regret at last.

To be fair and honest to South Africa, there are some very nice and wonderful people out there, but they are greatly outnumbered by the bigots among them. I live and work in South Africa and I’ve observed a bias pattern in judicial procedures and policing as regards to corruption and crime prevention.

My assertions are based on my day to day experience and observation as a resident. I have no statistical analysis of the Nigerian population living in South Africa neither do I have the exact figures or nationality of the number of cases prosecuted by the South African judiciary.

From the Nigerian side, the easterners (Igbos) out-number other ethnic groups within the Nigerian community here. That’s why most Nigerians you meet are from the east. A lot (of) Nigerians you meet are not in South Africa to study, though they are enrolled in one college or another, they are semi-illiterates or outright illiterates, very lousy, brash and arrogant (for reasons I don’t understand). Then we have the stranded group who were duped by travel agents into thinking the pasture in South Africa is greener.

In short, you meet criminals of all shapes, size and age. They just sleep, eat, wake up, and hope the next “Mugu” pays. They are so much, you’ll think all Nigerians living in South Africa are criminals, but we have bright students doing well and graduating in South African Universities, we have gainfully employed graduates trained by South Africans themselves (few) and business men and women doing legitimate business exporting goods to and from Nigeria (also few compared to the population of the Nigerian community). But the dot.com or Yahoo boys and drug traffickers are so high in number it seems they’ve all relocated from Nigeria to South Africa. Conditions here favor them.

Basic infrastructure is great here compared to what we have in Nigeria. 24 hours electricity, running water, well laid roads, affordable high speed internet, compact 3/4 bedroom apartment, affordable furniture, little or no scrutiny on international remittance etc. South Africa is a Yahoo Boy’s paradise. Though, most foreigners especially new comers call them as lazy and stupid .

On the South African side, you’ll meet the White Supremacist. A white bigot, loud, aggressive and assertive. He (male and female) hates Blacks and despises Nigerians in particular. He wants to protect the “sanctity” of White superiority; State resources are at his disposal. His opinion and interest supersedes that of others. His ancestors are the second settlers in South Africa. His interpretation of the freedom dictates and guides that the White community must be in control of economic power in South Africa. His favourite question when he meets you for the first time in class or anywhere he sees you provided your black is “Are you a Nigerian?”. He runs the country economically and he knows the “risk” of doing any business with most Nigerians.

Then we have the South African indigenous Chauvinist or the BEE boy, a business tycoon/ hard working student. Drives flashy cars, he believes his ancestors are the real owners of the South. He is rich and he has read stories of Nigerians using South African girls as drug mules, black/chemical money stories; he has seen or read of stranded Nigerians who loiter around the streets of Hillbrow begging for money (these stranded guys don’t shower, so they stink). He cringes when you happen to be in the same elevator, crosses to the other side of the road when you are walking towards each other and always thinks you need something from him any time you try to talk to him. He has held on to so many Nigerian horrible stories and thinks every Nigerian is like that.

Then, we have the Angry Jews, always pissed off and mean-mugging you. He has been discriminated against so much that even his language is not included in the country’s ATM machine .He is always trying to pick fights with you and the first comment he makes is “THIS IS MY COUNTRY!”. He’ll smash his crash helmet on you at the slightest provocation or stab you. He also reads of atrocities committed by Nigerians and sees you as a threat.

So, living in South Africa has made me a racism connoisseur of sought. In fact, I have become so sensitive that I believe I can tell if an individual is racist within a few seconds of being around him or her. There are people in South Africa whose sole purpose in life is just to ruin your day. Racism in South Africa is perfect. It is subtle when it needs to be and brass when necessary.

As a foreigner you might be misled into thinking South Africa is a boring place and no one gives a damn about you, so you can do whatever you like and get away with it. No, you are seriously mistaken. South Africa sometimes feels like the Islamic Republic of Iran we watch on T.V. Some citizens are very nosy and they watch and observe every move you make. I read a news article some weeks ago that says about 80% of Police personnel don’t do normal Policing but rather, spy and gather intelligence.

So, my point is this: South Africa is a tightly controlled society where the authorities decide what business prospers, whether legal or otherwise. Elements within the certain faceless authorities control the drug trade, the distributors are under their command and they arrest them when it’s politically needed to unite the country against a common enemy. We hear of stories of Cuban and Libyan drug traffickers who are quietly deported and warned never to return to South Africa but other nationalities are shown off as trophy in front of news men who broadcast and publish sensational news headlines.

SADC countries are united against drug trafficking and they hold meetings regularly to discuss new strategies on deterrent, Life imprisonment. But our boys would not listen. Too bad.

In all fairness to the South African authorities , Whatever measures they take to combat drug trafficking in this country could be justified considering that foreigners have turned their teenage girls into drug addicts.

Nigerians in South Africa: please behave ethically because God and justice will judge at the end of time.

Chika, a Nigerian, writes from Republic of South Africa[/b]

NaijaPikinGidi:

As usual South Africans will never take responsibility for their actions but blame others. It takes two to tango! It takes asking and receiving! It takes greed to activate deceit! It takes a dumb 33% brain capacity South African to seek out fraudulent ways of climbing to the top! Did any Nigerian force your lazy kith and kin to desire, request and pay for fake certificates? It is a confirmation that you are all illiterate and your literacy rates are a big FARCE.

You can hallucinate all you want ... your fraudulent get rich quite school dropouts have outdone themselves by seeking the easy way to the top! It cost them R2,000 each and by their own volition!!

I wonder what bridging course you are talking about when your dropout rate for supposedly qualified matriculants is so high!!

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Damning CHE report into university performance
David Macfarlane | 20 Aug 2013 15:18

"Despite there being a small intake that has good academic potential, performance in higher education is marked by high levels of failure and dropout," the report says. For example:

:: "Only about one in four students in contact institutions (that is, excluding Unisa) graduate in regulation time (for example, three years for a three-year degree);
:: "Only 35% of the total intake, and 48% of contact students, graduate within five years";
:: "When allowance is made for students taking longer than five years to graduate or returning to the system after dropping out, it is estimated that some 55% of the intake will never graduate";
:: "Access, success and completion rates continue to be racially skewed, with white completion rates being on average 50% higher than African rates"; and
:: "The net result of the disparities in access and success is that under 5% of African and coloured youth are succeeding in any form of higher education."

Full story here:
http://mg.co.za/article/2013-08-20-damning-che-report-into-university-performance

MsauZA, can we go into the maths of the statistics above to prove the WEF Report?


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Poor non-white students still marginalised
Khaya Dlanga | 22 Aug 2013 00:00

Some of us found the Council of Higher Education (CHE) report released on Tuesday shocking because it painted a bleak and disturbing picture about the state of education in South Africa. According to this report, less than 5% of black African and coloured youth succeed at university, and more than half of all first-year entrants never graduate. It is sad and heartbreaking to realise that those marginalised by apartheid continue to be marginalised post-1994. Opportunities have opened up, but what is opportunity without the ability to take advantage of it?

Full story here:
http://mg.co.za/article/2013-08-22-00-khaya-dlanga-poor-non-white-students-still-marginalised


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Plan to give students extra year
Leanne Jansen | August 20 2013 at 12:07pm

A higher education task team has recommended that an extra year of study be added to all undergraduate three-year degrees and diplomas in attempt to tackle the high university drop-out rate.

More than half of South African students drop out of university and just one in four graduates in the minimum time.

Full story here:
http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/family/kids/plan-to-give-students-extra-year-1.1565155#.UhdJQ20qi3V

Kindly read the 2 comments made by other readers


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‘SA school models too narrow’
Leanne Jansen | August 13 2013 at 12:20pm

A new type of school, funded by the government but run by a private individual or organisation, may be the answer for children being failed by poor education.

Full story here:
http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/family/kids/sa-school-models-too-narrow-1.1561516#.UhdIdG0qi3U


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You will note that these are all August 2013 reports!! Stop deceiving yourself I take Olodumare beg you!

NaijaPikinGidi:

Learn to read and comprehend statements made here!



Nigerians coming in an beating you academically in your own turf!! That is what the statement above means!!

Msauza:

Faking of qualifications is something that Nigerians do in their country and is not something new which they have learnt in SA.
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NaijaPikinGidi:
Stop talking trash in baseless self-defence. You should know the rules by now ... back up your claims with proof like I have already done or shut up for lack of any fact!


MsauZA:
Here is a stop station, we verify your qualifications before we can hire or admit you at any tertiary. Many South Africans who couldn't meet the minimum requirements to admitted in Engineering and Medical studies have tried their Nigerian brothers but their scheming has failed the moment their qualifications were verified with the department of education.
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NaijaPikinGidi:
Many South Africans who couldn't meet the minimum requirements to admitted in Engineering and Medical studies ... from your running mouth ... shame!!

You couldn't verify those that had schemed on the system before the SABC report yet you make your bogus comments! Nice to see that you have rendered your desperado South African brothers destitute and orphaned since according to you South Africans are brothers to Nigerians ... chei!! Wetin person no go hear! I would have hoped/expected that you'd deal directly with the points I made from your own local sources!


MsauZA:
In Nigeria, it is however very easy for students to gain admission with fake certificates since there is no reliable system to verify qualifications.
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NaijaPikinGidi:
Again wishful thinking by a clueless South African! No sense!

Msauza:

Faking of qualifications is something that Nigerians do in their country and is not something new which they have learnt in SA. Here is a stop station, we verify your qualifications before we can hire or admit you at any tertiary. Many South Africans who couldn't meet the minimum requirements to admitted in Engineering and Medical studies have tried their luck with their felow Nigerian brothers but their scheming has failed the moment their qualifications were verified with the department of education.

In Nigeria, it is however very easy for students to gain admission with fake certificates since there is no reliable system to verify qualifications.

chris365:

see this goat

even with your 33% requirement, south african brains can't perform and they resort to getting fake certificates till dat. and your schools have admitted them.

Fake qualifications certificates is growing problem say experts
A degree, no matter how it was obtained, is seen as a ticket to the good life. On average, about 13% percent of the degrees that are submitted to us for verification turn out fraudulent to some extent. Often, the symbols are changed to reflect a higher pass or subjects are added for which the student had never registered. In many cases the degrees and diplomas are outright fakes - many obtained from degree mills in the United States where for a few hundred dollars they will provide near perfect fakes of degrees from any university in South Africa or elsewhere in the world.
http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/06/25/fake-qualifications-certificates-is-growing-problem-say-experts

Msauza: Everybody can become a doctor in Nigeria.

Two fake doctors arrested in Nigeria on Tuesday this week.

http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Fake-Nigerian-doctors-arrested-20130819

Msauza: Everybody can become a doctor in Nigeria.

Two fake doctors arrested in Nigeria on Tuesday this week.

http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Fake-Nigerian-doctors-arrested-20130819

Msauza: There are 51 illegal universities in Nigeria. So, tell me how will we trust Nigerians with their qualifications?

http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201109210655.html/

chris365:

idi0t.. not as much as south african doctor, engineers, lawyers and everything is fake

The M&G‘s Lisa Steyn walks us through her investigation into the growing trend of fake degrees. These documents are being bought online and paraded on CVs at all levels of the employment sector.

I would have felt honoured had I not known that 99.9% of applicants qualify.
Unfortunately, I was unable to graduate from this prestigious institution as the “combo package” on offer (a high school diploma, BA, MA and PhD) would have set me back almost $1 596 (R10 170)—a Thanksgiving offer that had slashed the price by more than R4 000.
http://mg.co.za/article/2011-11-25-cutprice-degrees-no-sweat

NaijaPikinGidi:

What does that report say to you?

The Nigerian system takes no rubbish! We condone no irregularities with our qualifications and standards. I could help you pick out more related stories! In all you don't see Nigeria blaming anyone! If we condone such, they'll never be in the news.

You can never make any sense out of nonsense! Did your mama not tell you that?

chris365:

how is it as worse as south africans getting fake degrees through degree mills? and it gets worse every year.

no wonder Nigerians always get your jobs

kwame tut: Self hating FOOL all SOUTH AFRICANS OF ALL RACES KNOW WHO MAKE "fake degrees=Igbos from naaigeria in Hillbrow". EVEN YOUR OWN YORUBA KNOW THAT.

chris365:

how is it as worse as south africans getting fake degrees through degree mills? and it gets worse every year.

no wonder Nigerians always get your jobs

chris365:

how is it as worse as south africans getting fake degrees through degree mills? and it gets worse every year.

no wonder Nigerians always get your jobs