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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 4:19am On Oct 18, 2013
agaugust:

since south africa is full of criminals in broad daylight...R.apists and Armed Robbers....all over your country, and Rhino Poachers are still de-horning Rhinos under your noses on your homeland soil with south african air force helicopter crashing down while pursuing Rhino poachers and your SANF military officers die chasing Rhino poachers....

....can we also conclude that south african police, rangers and military forces are weak too ? answer my question
shocked

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South Africa does not have a state of emergency. Naai-geria does. Notwithstanding that, Naai-geria fails in its objectives.

Let us know if you are planning to have a state of emergency forever. cry
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 4:34am On Oct 18, 2013
agaugust:

since south africa is full of criminals in broad daylight...R.apists and Armed Robbers....all over your country, and Rhino Poachers are still de-horning Rhinos under your noses on your homeland soil with south african air force helicopter crashing down while pursuing Rhino poachers and your SANF military officers die chasing Rhino poachers....

....can we also conclude that south african police, rangers and military forces are weak too ? answer my question
shocked

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Hundreds of poachers have been arrested and the rhino populastion is still the largest in the world and still growing.

The problem comes in that since rhino horn is worth more than gold there aremany more poachers to fill in the gap. So given the circmstance they doing a good job. And you do know kruger nastional park is not even closed down.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:06am On Oct 18, 2013
Henry120: If you missed the last episode of the "war in october", a documentary by aljazeera on the "yum kippur war", it is definitely a "Shame" and very unfortunate.

Great un-biased documentary. I thoroughly enjoyed it all 3 weeks it was aired.

If it wasn't for US spy planes that saw the opening on the Egyptian defense line, Israel would have lost that war. No wonder Israel still relies on US for survival cheesy

Egypt is indeed the biggest threat to Israel. Thanks to aljazeera for not following the western patern of false propaganda interesting documentary indeed.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:15am On Oct 18, 2013
Henry120: If you missed the last episode of the "war in october", a documentary by aljazeera on the "yum kippur war", it is definitely a "Shame" and very unfortunate.

Great un-biased documentary. I thoroughly enjoyed it all 3 weeks it was aired.
is there a way i can download this? I download BBC podcast.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 7:29am On Oct 18, 2013
Aljeezara un biaased? That will be the day.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:30am On Oct 18, 2013
i did not see the documentary. How can i download it?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:34am On Oct 18, 2013
zaandrew: Aljeezara un biaased? That will be the day.
dont understand you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:35am On Oct 18, 2013
zaandrew:


Hundreds of poachers have been arrested and the rhino populastion is still the largest in the world and still growing.

The problem comes in that since rhino horn is worth more than gold there aremany more poachers to fill in the gap. So given the circmstance they doing a good job. And you do know kruger nastional park is not even closed down.

Dude, problem is problem. SA does not have the problem of terrorism but has a crime andd murder rate higher than Nigeria coupled with incessant murder of whites by oppressed blacks which has given rise to a white resistant group (red October) and a soon to be violent black political group that still chant the "kill the boar" song (EFF). SA is on a ticking time bomb and like @naijapikin once expressed; SA's turn is near no matter how you try to hide or deny it.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:39am On Oct 18, 2013
souldust: i did not see the documentary. How can i download it?

I'm trying to see if I can too for record purpose (i love history). It's hard to download aljazeera documentaries. But I'll let you know how if I succeed.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 7:49am On Oct 18, 2013
Henry120: If you missed the last episode of the "war in october", a documentary by aljazeera on the "yum kippur war", it is definitely a "Shame" and very unfortunate.

Great un-biased documentary. I thoroughly enjoyed it all 3 weeks it was aired.
I wish august could watch it. And Learn how Israel was about to defeat an enemy with massive numbers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 7:55am On Oct 18, 2013
agaugust:

since south africa is full of criminals in broad daylight...R.apists and Armed Robbers....all over your country, and Rhino Poachers are still de-horning Rhinos under your noses on your homeland soil with south african air force helicopter crashing down while pursuing Rhino poachers and your SANF military officers die chasing Rhino poachers....

....can we also conclude that south african police, rangers and military forces are weak too ? answer my question
shocked

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Nope!!!! South Africa navy is now patrolling in your waters. That's how we flex our muscle again your face. We are talking about military stuff Mr police officer AKA Lord Seleka..........I bet our rangers are better trained than your soldiers,did you see the programme on Al jazeera?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 7:58am On Oct 18, 2013
souldust: dont understand you.
Al jazeera is biased at times. It is reluctant to report on human rights abuses in Qatar,they report the "Good Good stuff" like "Qatar investing millions in Gaza and Egypt".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:07am On Oct 18, 2013
chris365:

If it wasn't for US spy planes that saw the opening on the Egyptian defense line, Israel would have lost that war. No wonder Israel still relies on US for survival cheesy

Egypt is indeed the biggest threat to Israel. Thanks to aljazeera for not following the western patern of false propaganda interesting documentary indeed.
Egypt had USSR backers then....Not the black bird spy plane only. The USA flown supplies to Israel too like the TOW missile,which was fielded in the closing days of the war. But have you seen the Discovery world documentary(Greatest tank battles)? The Israelis tank crews are trained in long range gunnery. But it would an interesting one,if both got to a war now. I mean Egypt has the Abram MBT and Israel has Merkava,which can fire missiles,carry troops and the latest fitted with the active trophy system which destroy incoming rounds and missiles. Like the South African LED system with its Mongoose missile.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:19am On Oct 18, 2013
Mike..ZA:
I wish august could watch it. And Learn how Israel was about to defeat an enemy with massive numbers.

Don't be naive. The only front Israel had it easy was the Syrian front. the Syrians would have marched unto Israel after they made Israel retreated from the golan, but Assad was such a foolish leader who ordered the attack be delayed which gave Israel enough time to regroup and set a trap that incapacitated Syrian best armoured division.
Egypt almost embarrassed Israel but for US intervention. Israeli airforce lost almost all their jets to the Egyptians, all their attacks against Egypt were successfully repelled and many Israeli soldiers and commanders were captured. Israel was in a dilemma before US intervened in favour of Israel.
Talk facts not fairytales.

Egypt is no joke brah. They can fight

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:32am On Oct 18, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Egypt had USSR backers then....Not the black bird spy plane only. The USA flown supplies to Israel too like the TOW missile,which was fielded in the closing days of the war. But have you seen the Discovery world documentary(Greatest tank battles)? The Israelis tank crews are trained in long range gunnery. But it would an interesting one,if both got to a war now. I mean Egypt has the Abram MBT and Israel has Merkava,which can fire missiles,carry troops and the latest fitted with the active trophy system which destroy incoming rounds and missiles. Like the South African LED system with its Mongoose missile.

Israel had superior tanks compared to the Syrians and Egypt. In the documentary, one of the IDF general that fought the war attested to it. He said Israel had the upper hand because of the superiority of their tank. So one Israeli tank could destroy 20 Syrian and Egyptian tanks.

This was another foolishness on the Syrian side. They went head to head with superior Israeli tanks while Egypt understood this and fielded the best anti tank missiles which destroyed a lot of Israeli armored divisions. I whish you had seen this documentary. It was truth and not graphically made nor re-enacted like the discovery channel's one.

USSR only sold weapons to Egypt, they were not involved in the war. But US on the other hand got involved cos Israel couldn't defeat Egypt alone.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:34am On Oct 18, 2013
chris365:

Don't be naive. The only front Israel had it easy was the Syrian front. the Syrians would have marched unto Israel after they made Israel retreated from the golan, but Assad was such a foolish leader who ordered the attack be delayed which gave Israel enough time to regroup and set a trap that incapacitated Syrian best armoured division.
Egypt almost embarrassed Israel but for US intervention. Israeli airforce lost almost all their jets to the Egyptians, all their attacks against Egypt were successfully repelled and many Israeli soldiers and commanders were captured. Israel was in a dilemma before US intervened in favour of Israel.
Talk facts not fairytales.

Egypt is no joke brah. They can fight
Have you watched Discovery world's Greatest tank battles,about that war?. The documentary on Al jazeera doesn't go into detail about the battle on the ground,Israeli tanks didn't have night vision capabilities but like T-62 using their long range gunnery skills managed to hold down their own against the whole "Arab army" ......Look both countries had backers(the USA and USSR). Israel was outnumbered but performed well. Here are the numbers Israel had 358 fighter jets,2100 tanks and 37 naval vessels while the had 998 fighter jets,4350 tanks and 137 naval vessels.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:38am On Oct 18, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Al jazeera is biased at times

True. Only a person who understands how the media works would know this. But I still like them for a lot of their educative and insightful programs. It's BBC and CNN would rather fear the most compared to aljazeera.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 8:44am On Oct 18, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Have you watched Discovery world's Greatest tank battles,about that war?. The documentary on Al jazeera doesn't go into detail about the battle on the ground

And how do you know since you didn't see the documentary ehn? Mr unsure cheesy

I would rather stick with the aljazeera documentary that showed real video coverage of the war with accounts and testimonies from general's from both sides that fought the war. Rather than just re-enactment in favor of just one side.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:51am On Oct 18, 2013
chris365:

Israel had superior tanks compared to the Syrians and Egypt. In the documentary, one of the IDF general that fought the war attested to it. He said Israel had the upper hand because of the superiority of their tank. So one Israeli tank could destroy 20 Syrian and Egyptian tanks.

This was another foolishness on the Syrian side. They went head to head with superior Israeli tanks while Egypt understood this and fielded the best anti tank missiles which destroyed a lot of Israeli armored divisions. I whish you had seen this documentary. It was truth and not graphically made nor re-enacted like the discovery channel's one.

USSR only sold weapons to Egypt, they were not involved in the war. But US on the other hand got involved cos Israel couldn't defeat Egypt alone.
No,they had superior training in long range gunnery using the WW2 centurion MBT against the T-55,T-35(used as artillery,dugged up) and T-62. Watch the Discovery world documentary where all the capabilities of the tanks are explained(from gun diameter,range,mussel velocity and all that). The USSR helped rearm Egypt,remember when some Israel reported seeing Egyptian troops with strange tubes and bags(ATMs). During the initial attack and this were portable USSR made SAMs. Israel fought alone on the ground the USA flown supplies and provided Israel with intelligence,and Israel wasn't fighting Egypt alone it was the whole Arab world From Iraq to Morocco. Egypt was fearful of the Israel air force,they created an umbrella of SAM batteries. They had advanced tanks and the wire guided sagger missile which was used to a devastating results on the Israelis....And yes,I'm watching that series,It doesn't go into detail about the quality of equipment fielded during that war.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:54am On Oct 18, 2013
chris365:

And how do you know since you didn't see the documentary ehn? Mr unsure cheesy

I would rather stick with the aljazeera documentary that showed real video coverage of the war with accounts and testimonies from general's from both sides that fought the war. Rather than just re-enactment in favor of just one side.
I'm watching that series. The Discovery world one has more tank commanders from both sides,even those seen on the AJ one. You should watch it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:36am On Oct 18, 2013
Mike..ZA:
I'm watching that series. The Discovery world one has more tank commanders from both sides,even those seen on the AJ one. You should watch it.

Maybe I will. But you can't deny the aljazeera one explains about the war better. They didn't go into weapons details, (not my thing any way wink) but it covered every aspect of the war from political to military.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:11am On Oct 18, 2013
agaugust:

Israel and Egypt fought to a draw in that war.

Egypt is NOT the fool that south africans think they are, as at today, Egypt has the strongest military in Africa and they will wipe out South Africa in war withing a few days.

Nigeria, Algeria, Ethiopia, Morocco are the 4 countries that will give Egypt a very tough battle and for Nigeria, we will hold Egypt to a stalemate/draw if the battle lasts more than 30 days, Nigerian military will re-modularize its modular weapon systems and raise a one million man army to push back Egyptian attack, the only way Egypt can defeat Nigeria is by launching an all out war, full scale attack, and lightning strike to try and overwhelm nigerian military in about 14 days.

it is very hard for Egypt to launch surprise attack on nigeria even if we remove the distance barrier, the nigerian Satellite system will see any enemy long before they reach nigerian soldiers positions.



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I agree 100% with what you stated above. The egyptians are very strong. Take nothing away from that. The south africans make egypt look weak on this thread, however doing that or rather, actually believing that in real life, at your own peril. Even though the isrealis advanced into ismalia ( the egyptian city), the egyptians at the end of the conflict retook the Sinai, which was the main objective of there mission.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:16am On Oct 18, 2013
chris365:

If it wasn't for US spy planes that saw the opening on the Egyptian defense line, Israel would have lost that war. No wonder Israel still relies on US for survival cheesy

Egypt is indeed the biggest threat to Israel. Thanks to aljazeera for not following the western patern of false propaganda interesting documentary indeed.

Yeah man. You saw the documentary finale last night also?

The isrealis are a strong force though. The americans are indispensable to the Israelis. They (israel) simply cannot do without the americans.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:18am On Oct 18, 2013
souldust: is there a way i can download this? I download BBC podcast.

I don't think so. You can still search on youtube. Search for "the war in october". It's a 3 part series.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:20am On Oct 18, 2013
zaandrew: Aljeezara un biaased? That will be the day.

Complete your statement. That will be the day.......... That what happened?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:28am On Oct 18, 2013
Mike..ZA:
I wish august could watch it. And Learn how Israel was about to defeat an enemy with massive numbers.

Israel also had massive numbers. You didn't see how Egyptian SAM's were taking down Israeli planes like fire-flies? Numbers are just as important as weaponry. Anyway, The superior Israeli tanks and the ability of the isrealis to muster reservist in just under 18hours proved to be the difference.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:38am On Oct 18, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Al jazeera is biased at times. It is reluctant to report on human rights abuses in Qatar,they report the "Good Good stuff" like "Qatar investing millions in Gaza and Egypt".

Al jazeera is biased at times, yes. However, they are way, way better than the obvious bias shown by BBC, CNN, SKY and the rest of the openly bias western media.


For african news, I watch TVC news, world news, aljazeera, if I want to see the comical americans, I watch CNN. The BBC is an american lap-dog news channel. They portray the british, as a people who do not have an opinion of their own. Simply do what america does, and say what the american says. Slave-master relationship.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:42am On Oct 18, 2013
chris365:

Israel had superior tanks compared to the Syrians and Egypt. In the documentary, one of the IDF general that fought the war attested to it. He said Israel had the upper hand because of the superiority of their tank. So one Israeli tank could destroy 20 Syrian and Egyptian tanks.

This was another foolishness on the Syrian side. They went head to head with superior Israeli tanks while Egypt understood this and fielded the best anti tank missiles which destroyed a lot of Israeli armored divisions. I whish you had seen this documentary. It was truth and not graphically made nor re-enacted like the discovery channel's one.

USSR only sold weapons to Egypt, they were not involved in the war. But US on the other hand got involved cos Israel couldn't defeat Egypt alone.


Bravo!!!!!! I could not have said it any better.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 12:23pm On Oct 18, 2013
souldust: dont understand you.

They a news network run basicaly by a contray that does not reconise israile.

I only watch there documantrys on africa not Middiel east since they cherey pic info.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:30pm On Oct 18, 2013
Henry120:

Israel also had massive numbers. You didn't see how Egyptian SAM's were taking down Israeli planes like fire-flies? Numbers are just as important as weaponry. Anyway, The superior Israeli tanks and the ability of the isrealis to muster reservist in just under 18hours proved to be the difference.

The Russians supplied advanced SAMS and anti-tank weapons that the Israelis didn't know about. They recovered well though.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:35pm On Oct 18, 2013
Henry120:

Yeah man. You saw the documentary finale last night also?

The isrealis are a strong force though. The americans are indispensable to the Israelis. They (israel) simply cannot do without the americans.

The Israelis even use American made weapons more effectively that the Americans themselves and improve on them through their defence industries.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:42pm On Oct 18, 2013
zaandrew:

They a news network run basicaly by a contray that does not reconise israile.

I only watch there documantrys on africa not Middiel east since they cherey pic info.

They all have a leaning. The Arab stations generally are biased against Israel while the opposite is the case for most western media, although I have noticed that the BBC has a left liberal leaning and tends to look at the Middle East situation through the Palestinian perspective on things. That is Israel generally is the baddie while the Palestinians are the goodies in their eyes.

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