agaugust:
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R.I.P in hellfire

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Not so fast:

CraigB: 09 October 2013.

Mr Fake Man's precious VOA.

http://www.voanews.com/content/in-nigeria-new-video-attributed-to-boko-haram-threats-long-war/1766258.html


New Video Attributed to Boko Haram Threatens Long War



Heather Murdock
October 09, 2013

ABUJA — In Nigeria, many people believe Abubakar Shekau leads Boko Haram, the Islamist militant group blamed for thousands of deaths. A man who sounds like Shekau is heard in a new audio message distributed to journalists, raising questions about claims the terrorist is dead.

Boko Haram used to post its videos on YouTube, but now it sends copies to a couple of journalists in northern Nigeria who distribute them to trusted colleagues and eventually the news agencies. Often the videos are transferred to audio-only files to accommodate the shoddy communications network in northern Nigeria.

This is the latest Boko Haram audio file making its way around Nigeria. It is distinctly the voice of Abubakar Shekau, or a very good impersonation of him. Speaking in the local Hausa language, he says Boko Haram has seized enough weapons to maintain a sustained war to turn Nigeria into his version of an Islamic state, which includes death for non-believers.

But he does not take responsibility for any specific recent attacks, most notably the September 29 raid on a college dormitory where about 40 students were killed, some while they were sleeping.

Nigerian authorities say Boko Haram is losing its power in northern Nigeria. Army spokesperson Brigadier General Ibrahim Attahiru says, “Our operations in the northeast have continued to [destroy] terrorist activities, thereby denying them freedom of action. For the last few weeks there were incidences of Boko Haram terrorists, unprovoked malicious attack and wanton destruction of life and property.”
He says Boko Haram is still conducting attacks, but the military is moving in on the group and apprehending suspects.

Other authorities say that recent security forces successes against Boko Haram include the killing of Shekau.

This is a video released last week of a man who looks and sounds like Shekau saying he is alive. Security forces later told Nigerian newspapers the video was doctored to “sustain a non-existent continuum in leadership.”

But some analysts say both the Boko Haram statements - whoever they came from - and the security forces' claims are a smokescreen, designed by powerful politicians to keep the public confused and the northeast in chaos.

Clement Nwankwo, who heads the Policy and Legal Advocacy Center in Abuja, says, “If you have a military presence in virtually all parts of the north then you are able to determine the number of people that come and vote. If there is fear then it means that a lot of people in the area where you think you do not have support do not necessarily come out and vote.”

During the past four years, Boko Haram has claimed responsibility for attacks on schools, churches, mosques, security forces, banks and the government. Nwankwo says in the past some authorities have declared Shekau dead, while others maintained he was alive.

The only thing 100 percent verifiable, he says, is that innocent people continue to be killed.

Abdulkareem Haruna contributed to this report from Maiduguri

Shekau is dead, you obviously don't understand the art of disinformation/propaganda. The video was faked by desperate BH and their sympathisers to keep the morale of their fast fading fighters going.

Mike..ZA:
Apply your "ranking systems". Which you use to rank how discipline a army is to the BDF.

In other words, you don't know.

Mike..ZA:
Here are the facts: No matter where the Nigerian armed would meet the SANDF in a battle situation. Your army would perish under real fire,before your army can learn how to fight a conventional war. It will be wiped out SAAF.

Ask any army currently in the theatre fighting an insurgency whether they would prefer counter terrorism/counter insurgency warfare or conventional warfare and which is more difficult.

CraigB:
Hollande praised South Africa for contributing troops to a United Nations mission with a mandate to help fight rebels in eastern Congo. He also commented on South Africa's role in regional efforts to ensure peaceful elections later this month in Madagascar, as well as South Africa's political support for France's intervention in Mali earlier this year to fight Islamic militants.

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I seem to recall not too long ago you dismissing praise by the Malian president about the good work done by the Nigerian military in Mali as just diplomacy. Short memories indeed.

Nigerian war ship to dock in Albany

By Andrew Collins, Chloe Papas


Thunder is the flagship of the Nigerian navy, and Albany is the furthest that the ship has ever sailed.

The ship and its crew have been in Sydney participating in celebrations for the International Fleet Review.

During usual working periods, Thunder fights piracy on the high seas.

ABC's Andrew Collins spoke with Lieutenant Shane Cook from the Royal Australian Navy, who is currently hitching a ride on the ship.

"No Nigerian ship and no person on this ship has ever been to Australia before."

"We have a lot of proud people on this ship right now," says Lieutenant Cook.

Click the audio link to listen to the full interview.

Nigerian war ship NNS Thunder (Royal Australian Navy - images.navy.gov.au)

http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2013/10/15/3869702.htm?site=southcoast

Army kills 40 terror suspects in Borno clash Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:00 From Saxone Akhaine (Kaduna), Njadvara Musa (Maiduguri) and Msugh Ityokura (Lafia) News - National E-mail Print
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Military_maiduguri• CAN presses Shettima on compensation for losses

• Soldiers seize 60 AK47 rifles, 100 machetes from Ombatse

[b]NIGERIANS were spared a horrendous slaughter of residents of Bama and Konduga local councils of Borno State when the Nigerian Army 7 Division troops foiled a planned Boko Haram attack on the area, killing no fewer than 40 of the insurgents and injuring many others in a surprise assault on Sunday.

[/b]The troops, acting on information that the gunmen were planning an attack on Konduga and Bama local councils’ headquarters on the eve of Eid-el-Kabir celebration, engaged the sect at the fringes of Sambisa Forests and repelled the armed militants.

Also, soldiers drafted to maintain peace in the volatile Nasarawa State have reportedly seized 60 AK47 rifles and 100 machetes from the Ombatse militia group, which allegedly killed scores of police and SSS personnel in Alakyo in May this year.

Acting on a tip-off at the weekend that group had convened a meeting in Tudun Adabu, a settlement in Obi Local Council, the soldiers invaded and discovered the cache of arms with the group.

Military sources also told The Guardian that an unnamed top government functionary was also arrested at one of the numerous military check-points in the state with fire-arms in his vehicle.

Similarly, the police in Kaduna yesterday successfully repelled gunmen who invaded Makarfi Local Council during their manhunt for the armed men.

Some of the residents of Makarfi community in the council said that for the timely intervention of the police, who engaged the gunmen in a gun dwell, the insurgents would have over-run the town after they had attacked Keystone Bank Plc.

However, Kaduna State Governor, Mukhtar Ramalan Yero, has called on members of the public to assist the security agencies with useful and timely information to enable them secure lives and property in the state.

Meanwhile, the Borno State Chapter of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) yesterday called on Governor Kashim Shettima to compensate victims of February 2006 sectarian crises and the lingering Boko Haram insurgency that destroyed several lives and 158 churches in the state.

Speaking at the commissioning of CAN office complex in Maiduguri, its chairman, Rev. Titus Pona, said the issue of compensations has to be revisited after the Ahmed Jidda-compensation committee submitted its report to government for implementation.

While commending Shettima for demonstrating genuine interest in restoring peace to the state, he also expressed CAN’s sympathy to those affected by the sectarian crises and insurgencies in the state.

The cleric further appealed to the governor to allow Christians teach Christian Religious Knowledge (CRK) in public schools and also provide places of worship for them in government’s housing estates built across the state in order to give them a sense of belonging among the various faiths.

In his remark at the occasion, the governor’s representative and Commissioner for Special Duties, Mr. Joshua Ishaku Shara, assured of government’s readiness to work with CAN in the state, adding that the issues raised would be looked into.

Acting spokesman of 7 Division, Captain Aliyu Ibrahim Danja, said yesterday in Maiduguri that the clash and eventual repulsion of Boko Haram suspects at the fringes of Sambisa Forests “were based on intelligence report available to our troops on ground and air that over 100 armed sect members had mobilised at a nearby bush, which is 10 kilometres to Bama township, with arms to launch attacks on Konduga.”

He further disclosed that before the terrorists could move to launch their attacks, the 7 Division ambushed them with armoured patrol tankers and rocket-propelled grenade, killing no fewer than 40 suspects.

He added: “Our troops were also able to recover arms and ammunition from the fleeing terrorists that sustained various degrees of injuries in the repulsion that lasted for over two hours on Sunday.”

The Borno State Police Public Relations Officer, Gideon Jibrin, also confirmed the incident yesterday in Maiduguri.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/national-news/135643-army-kills-40-terror-suspects-in-borno-clash

Has anyone seen the video the DSS released of shekau lying lifeless on the bed? After seeing that video, I know that shekau is dead for sure.


That been said, as we have seen, killing the leader of a terror group doesn't end the insurgency in anyway. We saw same in turkey when the leader of the kurdistan workers party( PKK) was arrested in the 80's in tanzania, we've also seen it in the Philippines, thailand and indonesia, and also with the death of osama bin laden and al' alawki.

We would just have to continue pressing the terrorists to the border region into Cameroon, chad and niger.

rka1:

In other words, you don't know.

This shows discipline? I use reports,records,expert analyses and experience. "Nigeria urged to probe 'custody killings'
Last updated: 4 hours ago
Amnesty International says nearly 1,000 people
with suspected Boko Haram links have died in
military detention centres.
The London-based rights group Amnesty
International is seeking an investigation into the
alleged deaths of hundreds of people in detention
facilities during a crackdown on Muslim groups in
Nigeria, saying it has evidence.
In a report on Tuesday, the organisation said that
"credible information" from a senior Nigerian
army officer indicated that more than 950 people
suspected of having links to Boko Haram died in
military custody in the first six months of this
year.
Boko Haram, an armed group, wants to topple
the Nigerian government and impose an Islamic
state, and has been responsible for thousands of
deaths.
Amnesty International said prisoners had been
suffocated, starved and subjected to extra-judicial
killings in the army-led operation in the country's
northeast.
It said senior Ministry of Defence officials had
not responded to written details about soldiers on
April 19 depositing 60 bodies at the main hospital
mortuary in Damaturu, the Yobe state capital,
claiming they were killed in a shootout.
But a source told Amnesty International they
were detainees taken from their cells and shot.
It said other detainees have suffocated and
starved to death in horrendous conditions.
The Nigerian army has consistently rejected
accusations of human-rights abuses."

rka1:

Ask any army currently in the theatre fighting an insurgency whether they would prefer counter terrorism/counter insurgency warfare or conventional warfare and which is more difficult.

Let's talk about conventional warfare.

Mike..ZA:
Let's talk about conventional warfare.

Okay by me, that is the Nigerian army's bread and butter.

Mike..ZA:
This shows discipline? I use reports,records,expert analyses and experience. "Nigeria urged to probe 'custody killings'
Last updated: 4 hours ago
Amnesty International says nearly 1,000 people
with suspected Boko Haram links have died in
military detention centres.
The London-based rights group Amnesty
International is seeking an investigation into the
alleged deaths of hundreds of people in detention
facilities during a crackdown on Muslim groups in
Nigeria, saying it has evidence.
In a report on Tuesday, the organisation said that
"credible information" from a senior Nigerian
army officer indicated that more than 950 people
suspected of having links to Boko Haram died in
military custody in the first six months of this
year.
Boko Haram, an armed group, wants to topple
the Nigerian government and impose an Islamic
state, and has been responsible for thousands of
deaths.
Amnesty International said prisoners had been
suffocated, starved and subjected to extra-judicial
killings in the army-led operation in the country's
northeast.
It said senior Ministry of Defence officials had
not responded to written details about soldiers on
April 19 depositing 60 bodies at the main hospital
mortuary in Damaturu, the Yobe state capital,
claiming they were killed in a shootout.
But a source told Amnesty International they
were detainees taken from their cells and shot.
It said other detainees have suffocated and
starved to death in horrendous conditions.
The Nigerian army has consistently rejected
accusations of human-rights abuses."

Yawn! We all know the inaccuracies of Amnesty and their cohorts up north. They always have sources, quotes etc, but no material evidence.

If you wanted to carry out extra-judicial killings as they claim, would you allegedly openly dump bodies at mortuaries or would you make them disappear.

And just by the by, name a country involved in a major conflict that there hasn't been a report of major alleged abuses.

You still avoided answering the question as this story came after your flippant comment. Show your alleged sources.

Hezron Lorraine: It looks bogus and intimidating.it's not as expensive as I thought.Nigeria may not really need it.

This is an enviable development.I believe with more fundings into this project,Nigeria is sure to develop world class missiles.the pieces have been falling into place,more attention has been paid to missile development in the country than before.

Scud missiles are known for being inaccurate. Gaddafi's forces fired a capable of them during the civil there,they're usually used to carry chemicals and can be a serious deterrent. But if you're facing an enemy possessing them it can be a nightmare if your air force is weak,cause you will have to hunt down and destroy this mobile launchers and destroy. The Coalition air force in Iraqi faced or did this. If not the enemy can keep throwing this things,while moving launchers constantly to avoid to counter battery fire or detection. Here's what I think about them included in African countries' arsenals: Since most sub-saharan African air forces are weak and our armies don't have GPS guided MRLS like most western nations,having them in your arsenal can prove as a serious deterrent to hostile nations. This is why the SANDF needs its long range powerful artillery pieces,to bombard fields,mechanised units,supplies,infantry and SAM locations filling the role of bombers.

Henry120: Has anyone seen the video the DSS released of shekau lying lifeless on the bed? After seeing that video, I know that shekau is dead for sure.


That been said, as we have seen, killing the leader of a terror group doesn't end the insurgency in anyway. We saw same in turkey when the leader of the kurdistan workers party( PKK) was arrested in the 80's in tanzania, we've also seen it in the Philippines, thailand and indonesia, and also with the death of osama bin laden and al' alawki.

We would just have to continue pressing the terrorists to the border region into Cameroon, chad and niger.

You are right, just like Al-Queda, they just replace the leaders that's why as you say, they have to continue pressing the terrorists with no let up.

rka1:

Okay by me, that is the Nigerian army's bread and butter.

You say so? When did Nigeria fight any conventional war against a well organised and supplied foe with air force and navy!!!!! I'm talking blood and steal!!! Mechanised war,special forces......From artillery,tank battles,helicopter insertions,dogfights,EW,joint operations,supplies,armour camouflage and ground bombings.

Mike..ZA:
You say so? When did Nigeria fight any conventional war against a well organised and supplied foe with air force and navy!!!!! I'm talking blood and steal!!! Mechanised war,special forces......From artillery,tank battles,helicopter insertions,dogfights,EW,joint operations,supplies,armour camouflage and ground bombings.

Whether you like it or not, Biafra, Chad (Armourd corp under Buhari);

In 1983 Chadian soldiers invaded and took 19 islands in Lake Chad within Nigerian territory. The then Brigadier Buhari, who was the General Officer Commanding of the 3rd Armoured Division (which he did from November 1981 - December 1983) successfully carried out a blockade of Chad. After which all the territories were returned. The Nigerian Army under Buhari then pursued the Chadian Army as far as 50 km into Chadian territory. The 21st Armoured Brigade carried out the blockade and the fighting.

http://transparencyng.com/index.php/people2/116-politicians/3246-muhammadu-buhari-

Babangida oversaw the maturation and massive expansion of the Armored corps including huge foreign armament purchases, training opportunities and career development for upcoming junior officers and soldiers during the heydays of the late seventies and early eighties

[b]During the civil war the range of armored fighting vehicles was expanded to include the Fox, Saladin and Saracen family.The Inspectorate of Recce (led by an “Inspector”) evolved after the civil war into four Recce regiments (1, 2, 3, and 4Reconnaissance Regiments, respectively).Then in 1976/77 it matured into the Armoured Corps (led by a “Commander”) at a time of significant expansion of its range of Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFV) to include French Panhard AML 60s and 90s and light Tanks (like the British Scorpion CVRT).Armored Brigades were created in Enugu (21st), Ilorin (22nd), Bauchi (23rd) and Epe (24th) in the place of regiments.These have long since been reorganized.

Just after the civil war, the School of Armour was located along old Ife Road in Ibadan but moved to ‘Tank terrain’ in Bauchi sometime in October 1979.Later on, medium Tanks (like the Soviet T-55)and heavy Tanks (like the Vickers “Eagle” Main Battle Tank) were acquired.

http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/nigeria_facts/MilitaryRule/Omoigui/PalaceCoup-1985.htm

Plenty of stories and photos out there in regard to artillery fire in SL & Liberia not to talk of during the civil war.

NAF Hercules as well NN LST's deployed thousands of troops to the above locations as well not to talk of the bombings carried out by Alpha jets in SL, Liberia and even the current onslaught against BH enclaves.

Special ops in Ivory Coast, Mali, NE Nigeria.

They are all too numerous to mention. if you really are that interested, google is your closest pal.

CraigB: Ag shame, tog. Hollande needs South Africa in CAR.


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PRETORIA (Reuters) – French President Francois Hollande said on Monday the collapse of the Central African Republic could destabilise the region, as he sought to drum up support for increased military intervention while on a state visit to South Africa.

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/world/frances-hollande-central-african-republic-troubles-could-spill-over-1171803.html?utm_source=hp-footer

yeah. France that disgraced SA in CAR now wants to use you to protect their interest. Congratulobia.

You don't understand politics åt all

rka1: Shekau is dead, you obviously don't understand the art of disinformation/propaganda. The video was faked by desperate BH and their sympathisers to keep the morale of their fast fading fighters going.

You dont seem to know that boy. He's like a llama that spits all över the place without direction. Too dull to inderstand the art of propaganda.... Or should i say too stup1d to have än independent point of view without relying so much on cut and paste information.

Mike..ZA:
This shows discipline? I use reports,records,expert analyses and experience. "Nigeria urged to probe 'custody killings'
Last updated: 4 hours ago
Amnesty International says nearly 1,000 people
with suspected Boko Haram links have died in
military detention centres.
The London-based rights group Amnesty
International is seeking an investigation into the
alleged deaths of hundreds of people in detention
facilities during a crackdown on Muslim groups in
Nigeria, saying it has evidence.
In a report on Tuesday, the organisation said that
"credible information" from a senior Nigerian
army officer indicated that more than 950 people
suspected of having links to Boko Haram died in
military custody in the first six months of this
year.
Boko Haram, an armed group, wants to topple
the Nigerian government and impose an Islamic
state, and has been responsible for thousands of
deaths.
Amnesty International said prisoners had been
suffocated, starved and subjected to extra-judicial
killings in the army-led operation in the country's
northeast.
It said senior Ministry of Defence officials had
not responded to written details about soldiers on
April 19 depositing 60 bodies at the main hospital
mortuary in Damaturu, the Yobe state capital,
claiming they were killed in a shootout.
But a source told Amnesty International they
were detainees taken from their cells and shot.
It said other detainees have suffocated and
starved to death in horrendous conditions.
The Nigerian army has consistently rejected
accusations of human-rights abuses."

A further proof that you have no idea of what you say.

US soldiers have tortured and killed terrorists and innocent unarmed civilians extra judicially, does that make them indesciplined? They are terrorists and deserve nothing möre than death.

AI can come and fight alongside them Cos we already know they are BH sympathizers.

Get your head out of the gutter and answer his question like a reasonable fellow

Mike..ZA:
Let's talk about conventional warfare.

.....like the 1987 bush war where South Africa was almost defeated by tiny Cuba that was fighting about 10,000km away from its Carribean Islands home

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rka1:

Whether you like it or not, Biafra, Chad (Armourd corp under Buhari);

In 1983 Chadian soldiers invaded and took 19 islands in Lake Chad within Nigerian territory. The then Brigadier Buhari, who was the General Officer Commanding of the 3rd Armoured Division (which he did from November 1981 - December 1983) successfully carried out a blockade of Chad. After which all the territories were returned. The Nigerian Army under Buhari then pursued the Chadian Army as far as 50 km into Chadian territory. The 21st Armoured Brigade carried out the blockade and the fighting.

http://transparencyng.com/index.php/people2/116-politicians/3246-muhammadu-buhari-

Babangida oversaw the maturation and massive expansion of the Armored corps including huge foreign armament purchases, training opportunities and career development for upcoming junior officers and soldiers during the heydays of the late seventies and early eighties

[b]During the civil war the range of armored fighting vehicles was expanded to include the Fox, Saladin and Saracen family.The Inspectorate of Recce (led by an “Inspector”) evolved after the civil war into four Recce regiments (1, 2, 3, and 4Reconnaissance Regiments, respectively).Then in 1976/77 it matured into the Armoured Corps (led by a “Commander”) at a time of significant expansion of its range of Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFV) to include French Panhard AML 60s and 90s and light Tanks (like the British Scorpion CVRT).Armored Brigades were created in Enugu (21st), Ilorin (22nd), Bauchi (23rd) and Epe (24th) in the place of regiments.These have long since been reorganized.

Just after the civil war, the School of Armour was located along old Ife Road in Ibadan but moved to ‘Tank terrain’ in Bauchi sometime in October 1979.Later on, medium Tanks (like the Soviet T-55)and heavy Tanks (like the Vickers “Eagle” Main Battle Tank) were acquired.

http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/nigeria_facts/MilitaryRule/Omoigui/PalaceCoup-1985.htm

Plenty of stories and photos out there in regard to artillery fire in SL & Liberia not to talk of during the civil war.

NAF Hercules as well NN LST's deployed thousands of troops to the above locations as well not to talk of the bombings carried out by Alpha jets in SL, Liberia and even the current onslaught against BH enclaves.

Special ops in Ivory Coast, Mali, NE Nigeria.

They are all too numerous to mention. if you really are that interested, google is your closest pal.

Biafra The civil of mercinaries?......Nigerian armed forces. Have no conventional warfare experience. Your forces will be wiped out before your commanders can realise what's going on. Ask the Americans what happens when "overconfident and ill experienced" soldiers are thrown into combat against a experienced General and his men(soldiers).

I have begged you guys to leave Mike..ZA to bask his brains in his recycle bin! Cutting and pasting rubbish from scrap material is his mainstay! SMH. Even CrazePig has strayed back here again? Spam-times are here again.

agaugust:

.....like the 1987 bush war where South Africa was almost defeated by tiny Cuba that was fighting about 10,000km away from its Carribean Islands home

.

You don't know a thing about the bush war. By saying "the 1987 bush war" only proves it well. What is known about the bush is: Every time when Cuban troops made contact with the South Africans they took heavy casualties. Ask what happened when tried to help their swapo brothers during the battle of cassinga. Or maybe ask about the Bridge 14 battle. Cuban troops or commanders had Soviet advisors,to make up for their ill experience,and received massive quality equipment from the communists.

NaijaPikinGidi: I have begged you guys to leave Mike..ZA to bask his brains in his recycle bin! Cutting and pasting rubbish from scrap material is his mainstay! SMH. Even CrazePig has strayed back here again? Spam-times are here again.

I want facts not some rubbish talk. Recycled or whatever a fact is a fact and the FACT is Nigeria lacks experience,modern equipment and understanding how battles are fought in high heat Africa.

chris365:

A further proof that you have no idea of what you say.

US soldiers have tortured and killed terrorists and innocent unarmed civilians extra judicially, does that make them indesciplined? They are terrorists and deserve nothing möre than death.

AI can come and fight alongside them Cos we already know they are BH sympathizers.

Get your head out of the gutter and answer his question like a reasonable fellow

Soldiers who commit crimes in the USA army are put in military courts,and are then investigations taken. But your soldiers are killing and starving enemy combatants and this ill disciplined boys are not taken to military courts. Disciplined armed forces punish soldiers who commit any crime. "RESPECT YOUR ENEMY"!!!!

rka1: CraigB:
Hollande praised South Africa for contributing troops to a United Nations mission with a mandate to help fight rebels in eastern Congo. He also commented on South Africa's role in regional efforts to ensure peaceful elections later this month in Madagascar, as well as South Africa's political support for France's intervention in Mali earlier this year to fight Islamic militants.

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I seem to recall not too long ago you dismissing praise by the Malian president about the good work done by the Nigerian military in Mali as just diplomacy. Short memories indeed.

Spot on! It's the flip side!

Trash is back just the way they like it ... recycled!

Mike..ZA:
Soldiers who commit crimes in the USA army are put in military courts,and are then investigations taken. But your soldiers are killing and starving enemy combatants and this ill disciplined boys are not taken to military courts. Disciplined armed forces punish soldiers who commit any crime. "RESPECT YOUR ENEMY"!!!!

you and the person who liked your post are ignorant donkeys.

you seem to confuse terrorists with a regular army. how many soldiers that tortured and killed terror suspects in G-Bay have been tried and jailed (proof please)? how many IDF soldiers have been jailed for killing protesting Palestinians? how many US soldiers were arrested and jailed for the atrocities in iraq?

even the super powers understand better that terrorists have no rights to protect cos they are animals who deserve nothing other than death.

we don't respect the rights of terrorists and Nigeria is not the federal republic of amnesty international. so you and them can go hug transformer

you claim to have military knowledge but fail to differentiate between terrorists and regular armies. you are nothing but a novice

South Africans seem to love Shekau and his Boko Haram bandits (SA's proxy fighters) hoping they'll slow down a resurgent and rising Nigeria? But didn't they teach you in your SA military school that Nigerian Armed Forces leave terrorists dead ... like your Shekau below?

sandf new procument plan:

Under the Defence Review the Army, Navy, and Air Force have laid-out criteria for effectively meeting their strategic demands. The Review stresses the importance of six broad strategic areas in which urgent procurements will be prioritised for the near to medium term (according to the draft policy paper):
Infantry Combat Vehicles (ICVs) – Currently Utilising decades-old Ratel ICVs, pertains to Project Hoefyster
Armoured Personnel Carriers – Possibly pertains to Project Vistula
Logistics Vehicles – Pertains to Project Vistula
Light Artillery – Likely based on a locally-designed 105mm system
Aerial Weaponry – Sourcing appropriate munitions for the Gripen multirole aircraft
Combat Support Ships – Pertains to Project Millenium


For the Air Force, major procurement projects have already been completed under the Strategic Defence Package (SDP), in the acquisition of Gripen and Hawk multirole aircraft. For the Army and Navy there are several outstanding projects of note. In the immediate short-term, it is the land forces who will almost certainly receive budget priority, with naval procurements swiftly following. This will be directed at the following major projects:

Project Vistula

Project Vistula, the SA Army’s procurement allotment which intends to replace the current “B” fleet of SAMIL 50 and SAMIL 100 soft-skinned (i.e unarmoured or lightly armoured) transport vehicles, has received renewed interest by ARMSCOR following a shelving of the project in 2007.

Vistula will replace the B fleet with around 5,000 vehicles of various configurations for use by the Army. These include 8x8, 6x6 and 4x4 vehicles fulfilling basic transportation, mine-resistant capable, and logistics vehicles depending on the need and supplier’s ability to provide the correct vehicles.

Project Hoefyster (Horseshoe)

Project Hoefyster is aimed at replacing the now-outdated, 30-year old Ratel Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFV) in use by the SANDF. At present, Government has agreed upon a deal to procure 264 “Badger” 8x8 IFVs with an estimated cost of R8bn. The IFV would transport SANDF mechanised troops on operations, serving as a support platform for troops during combat. The range of turret models which Denel Land Systems (DLS) is offering would enable the complete combat needs replacement and upgrading of the SANDF’s current Ratel system, enabling combat forces to utilise infantry support, heavy weapons (mortars) and anti-tank capabilities in one mechanised brigade. The SANDF currently has two mechanised infantry battalions (excluding artillery and support mechanised units), and will need far more than the currently-ordered IFVs to be completely refitted.

Naval Considerations

In terms of naval procurement, Project Millenium, Project Biro, and Project Saucepan are designed towards sourcing new LHD-class vessels, Offshore Patrol Vessels, and Maritime Patrol craft respectively.

Thiza: sandf new procument plan:

Under the Defence Review the Army, Navy, and Air Force have laid-out criteria for effectively meeting their strategic demands. The Review stresses the importance of six broad strategic areas in which urgent procurements will be prioritised for the near to medium term (according to the draft policy paper):
Infantry Combat Vehicles (ICVs) – Currently Utilising decades-old Ratel ICVs, pertains to Project Hoefyster
Armoured Personnel Carriers – Possibly pertains to Project Vistula
Logistics Vehicles – Pertains to Project Vistula
Light Artillery – Likely based on a locally-designed 105mm system
Aerial Weaponry – Sourcing appropriate munitions for the Gripen multirole aircraft
Combat Support Ships – Pertains to Project Millenium


For the Air Force, major procurement projects have already been completed under the Strategic Defence Package (SDP), in the acquisition of Gripen and Hawk multirole aircraft. For the Army and Navy there are several outstanding projects of note. In the immediate short-term, it is the land forces who will almost certainly receive budget priority, with naval procurements swiftly following. This will be directed at the following major projects:

Project Vistula

Project Vistula, the SA Army’s procurement allotment which intends to replace the current “B” fleet of SAMIL 50 and SAMIL 100 soft-skinned (i.e unarmoured or lightly armoured) transport vehicles, has received renewed interest by ARMSCOR following a shelving of the project in 2007.

Vistula will replace the B fleet with around 5,000 vehicles of various configurations for use by the Army. These include 8x8, 6x6 and 4x4 vehicles fulfilling basic transportation, mine-resistant capable, and logistics vehicles depending on the need and supplier’s ability to provide the correct vehicles.

Project Hoefyster (Horseshoe)

Project Hoefyster is aimed at replacing the now-outdated, 30-year old Ratel Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFV) in use by the SANDF. At present, Government has agreed upon a deal to procure 264 “Badger” 8x8 IFVs with an estimated cost of R8bn. The IFV would transport SANDF mechanised troops on operations, serving as a support platform for troops during combat. The range of turret models which Denel Land Systems (DLS) is offering would enable the complete combat needs replacement and upgrading of the SANDF’s current Ratel system, enabling combat forces to utilise infantry support, heavy weapons (mortars) and anti-tank capabilities in one mechanised brigade. The SANDF currently has two mechanised infantry battalions (excluding artillery and support mechanised units), and will need far more than the currently-ordered IFVs to be completely refitted.

Naval Considerations

In terms of naval procurement, Project Millenium, Project Biro, and Project Saucepan are designed towards sourcing new LHD-class vessels, Offshore Patrol Vessels, and Maritime Patrol craft respectively.

most of the above is just a wish list and day dream of south african military.

south african government has no money to waste any more on defence.

south african CANNOT raise money to maintain the weapons it already has.

only 8 pilots for 26 Gripen jets.

12 Gripen jets are in long term 'deep freezer' cold storage.

only 11 Exocet missiles remain instead of 32 Exocet missiles for 4 valour frigates.

only 46 G6 artillery and 11 Rooivalk helicopters have been purchased since 20 years ago.

stop daydreaming bros, south africa is NOT buying any new major military equipment due to lack of money

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NaijaPikinGidi:

South Africans seem to love Shekau and his Boko Haram bandits (SA's proxy fighters) hoping they'll slow down a resurgent and rising Nigeria? But didn't they teach you in your SA military school that Nigerian Armed Forces leave terrorists dead ... like your Shekau below?

[size=16pt] Shekau Boko Haram Leader Killed by Africa's best Army Infantry [/size]