agaugust:


everything about south african weapons technical details/specifications is available on free public internet....thats why civilians know how to sink your valour frigate from the air

nigeria too is confirmed to have a rockets/missile project with lost of test firing....technical details NOT freely given to public by the nigerian military....wisdom !

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The only country that does not release details of there sytems are those like nigeria who are not trying to sell them because they know it will not sell

And not every detail is released.


Your goverment confired only 10km. Beagel(a man) gave a 120km flight.
Both where unguided test flights so prove what?

agaugust:


everything about south african weapons technical details/specifications is available on free public internet....thats why civilians know how to sink your valour frigate from the air

nigeria too is confirmed to have a rockets/missile project with lost of test firing....technical details NOT freely given to public by the nigerian military....wisdom !

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You think knowing the range of a missile means you know the technical details and specifications? Please post the tracking and trajectory algorithms that Umkhonto uses in order to shoot down a target. There a hundreds of American, British, German etc etc weapons with range and other general details posted on the net. Mokopa anti tank missile - range 10km. Hellfire anti tank missile - range 8km. Are the engineers that produce the Hellfire missile stupid for posting their 8km details? No. So keep quiet fool.

Nigeria has no technical details because Nigeria has no operational missiles. You're firing unguided rockets into the sea. You wish you had technical details.

Proudly South African Engineering

Umkhonto Surface to Air missile being fired from ground based unit.
Work on a 20km+ version is continuing swiftly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNrKGppmV_Q

agaugust:


everything about south african weapons technical details/specifications is available on free public internet....thats why civilians know how to sink your valour frigate from the air

nigeria too is confirmed to have a rockets/missile project with lost of test firing....technical details NOT freely given to public by the nigerian military....wisdom !

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You can get ranges of almost all missiles on the internet. Nigeria doesn't have any operational missile,you still don't have launch platforms. And that simulation showed nothing but how stupi'd you're,you think your air force will remove jets from backing the army in the North?...To show how weak your navy is,the SAS Spioenkop(valour class) will be patrolling in the sphere of influence again.

agaugust:

my senior bros, me i don tell una before before, make nobody rush conclude say na shekau true true, dem boko haram fit just dey 419 the whole world with that dem doubtful new video.

my own suspicion arose from the fact that boko haram is desperate to rebuild the falling morale of its followers when they knew their leader was either dead or mortally and fatally wounded by the mighty nigerian army.

the normal reaction of a belligerent force is to fake the re-emergence of a fallen leader to sustain morale of its fighters, these are simple war strategies....propaganda in a way...and south africa is very good at it

i doubted the validity of that video as being the real shekau because america was silent on it, because proof was lacking.

if it was the real shekau, america has a bounty on his head for capture and would have reacted immediately by renewing calls for his capture.

all the south africans who were shouting, laughing and claiming that shekau of boko haram is ressurected and alive, have been put to shame....as usual, you south africans have carelessly proved yourselves to be a bunch of 33% brain fools who cannot use their 'one third capacity' brains to think deep, judge and analyse a clouded situataion.

intelligence and brain power must be a very rare 'mineral resource' to find in south africa

i salute you nigerian army, you were mighty enough to get a close range shot and baptize the boko haram number one leader with bullets inside his own stronghold.



who has the best army infantry in africa ? nigeria !

South Africa has the best infantry. Even DRC commanders were begging the SANDF to take command. After showing precise counter mortar fire,snipers and disciplined soldiers. And infantry can perish in an instead if the commander lacks experience like Nigeria does. "An INEXPERIENCED commander lacks some nerve". You can ask the Americans this!!!

Ihejirika: French Language Denied Nigeria Lead Role in Mali

11 Oct 2013

Lt-Gen Azubuike Ihejirika

French, Arabic now compulsory for officers Says army ready to defend Nigeria’s territory

Senator Iroegbu

The Chief of Army Staff(COAS), Lt-Gen Azubuike Ihejirika, has said Nigeria’s inability to speak French Language was the main reason the country was denied the Command of the United Nations Multi-dimensional Integrated Stabilisation Mission in Mali (MNUSMA).
He also said Army had recently established a Nigerian Army language school where French is being taught “in realisation of the fact that Nigeria is being surrounded by Francophone countries in the face of the current security challenges.”

Ihejirika, who disclosed this yesterday when he played host to the Senate Committee on Defence and Army, which was at the Army Headquarters, Abuja to ascertain the budget performance of the army from the first to third quarter of this year, said: “The steps was taken because Nigerian Army was denied the leadership of the United Nations' force in Mali as the qualified officers could not speak French... and that was the only factor that militated against them (from the headship of MNUSMA).”

The COAS also said henceforth, French and Arabic language would be taught in schools, adding that officers and soldiers would be compelled to be bilingual.
According to him “one of the consideration for appointments henceforth will be being bilingual. More importantly, is the fact that cooperation with our neighbours will be adversely affected by the lack of French language.”
Nigeria withdrew about 1,000 troops (about 90 per cent) deployed to Mali, following the appointment of Rwandan's Maj-Gen Jean Bosco Kazura, to command the MNUSMA.

In a related development, Ihejirika has assured Nigerians that the service is ready to protect and defend the nation’s territory integrity, despite the current security challenges facing the country.

The COAS, who lamented the lack of funds, which had hampered some constituency projects, said such projects would be carried out as soon as the funds were released from the Ministry of Finance.

Ihejirika further noted that the new 7 Division of the Nigerian Army was established to take charge of the North-east because it was difficult to direct troops from Jos, Plateau State to Maiduguri, Borno State owing to the massive land mass.

He added that Borno State alone was bigger in size than some African countries.

Also speaking, the Chairman, Senate committee on Defence and Army, Senator George Sekibo, said the committee would take a tour of the project sites of the army to see their performance.

“We have however... in the books, seen that they have done well, especially in the area of internal security operations,” Sekibo said.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/ihejirika-french-language-denied-nigeria-lead-role-in-mali/161315/

More in-depth analysis of the training exercise;

TEXT OF JOINT PRESS BRIEFING ON THE AFRICAN WINDS TRAINING EXERCISE HELD AT THE DEFENCE HEADQUARTERS ON 6 OCTOBER 2013




Posted: 2013-10-07 05:47:59
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Permit me to welcome you all to this joint press briefing on the ongoing Training Exercise called AFRICAN WINDS. AFRICAN WINDS is the nickname for a maritime capacity building training programme for the Armed Forces of Nigeria in conjunction with the Netherlands Maritime Forces under the auspices of the United States sponsored African Partnership Station. The objective of AFRICAN WINDS is to enhance the capacity of African military forces to develop and improve their capacity to jointly plan and execute military operations in a maritime environment. The countries covered by the programme are: Morocco, Senegal, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria and Cameroun.

Under the programme, the Netherland Maritime Forces is providing an amphibious logistic support ship, the HMNLS ROTTERDAM to support the training and exercises. The ship which carries a total of 668 troops, 4 helicopters and 6 special boats called Landing Craft Utility (LCU) and Landing Craft Vehicle Personnel (LCVP) is expected to be in Lagos from 15 – 18 October and in Calabar from 21 – 24 October. It also carries many Fast Raid Interception Special Forces Craft used in inserting small number of specially trained troops from sea to land particularly in creeks. The LCU is capable of carrying up to 120 fully equipped soldiers while the LCVP carries 35 Special Forces troops over a distance of 200 nautical miles. The LCUs and LCVPs are used to land troops from the sea to specific objectives on land.

The AFRICAN WINDS programme has started with 14 days training that will be conducted by Mobile Training Teams (MTTs) drawn from US, UK and Netherland Marines followed by 4 days exercises that will be conducted by units from the Nigerian Army, Nigerian Navy, Nigerian Air Force and Special Forces from the US, UK, Netherland Marines and Spanish Special Forces. The training in Lagos will be conducted at the Joint Maritime Security Training Centre (JMSTC) Navy Town, Ojo from 4 – 14 October while the exercises will be conducted at Ibeshe Beach and the JMSTC/Naval Ordnance Depot (NOD) waterfront between 15 and 18 October. The exercises that will be conducted in Lagos will include Amphibious Raid, Maritime Counter Terrorism, Vessel Boarding Stop and Search in an opposed environment and Hydrographic Survey. A total of 221 Nigerian and foreign troops will participate in the training and exercises in Lagos area. The Executive Governor of Lagos State, His Excellency Babatunde Fashola along with the Chief of Defence Staff, Admiral Ola Sa’ad Ibrahim, the Chief of Army Staff, Lt General Azubike Ihejirika and the Chief of the Naval Staff, Vice Admiral Dele Ezeoba are expected to attend the exercises. The Nigerian troops are drawn from the Army’s 81 Division, the Navy’s Special Boat Service, the Western Naval Command and the Hydrographer of the Navy. The Nigerian Air Force Special Operations Group and the 81 Air Maritime Group as well as the Naval Air Station will be providing air support for the exercises. The Lagos training and exercises which has been nick named AFEFE EKO, Yoruba word for Lagos Wind will be commanded by the Flag Officer Commanding, the Western Naval Command of the Nigerian Navy, Rear Admiral Ibokete Ibas.

Other programmes that will be conducted in Lagos under the AFRICAN WINDS programme are an Environmental Workshop and a Maritime Security Conference which are sponsored by the Netherlands Embassy. They will both be held onboard the ROTTERDAM. The Environmental Workshop will hold on 16 October while the Maritime Security Conference will hold on 17 October. It is expected that the Conference will be opened by the Chief of the Naval Staff and attended by the Governor of Lagos State. The former commander of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) Anti-Piracy Task Force in the Indian Ocean, Rear Admiral Ben Bekkering and Brigadier General Oppelaar Briggen, the Director of Operations of the Netherlands Armed Forces will also attend the Maritime Security Conference.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Press, the training in Calabar will be conducted at the Nigerian Army Amphibious Warfare Training School (ATS) from 7 to 21 October while the exercises will be conducted at the Tinapa and Muddy Beach in Calabar and Oron Beach in Akwa Ibom State from 21 to 24 October. The exercises to be conducted in Calabar will include hydrographic survey and demonstrations. Other exercises to be conducted in Calabar include Riverine and Jungle operations which will be carried out by a combined force from the Nigerian Army Amphibious Warfare Training School, the United States, United Kingdom and Netherland Marines. An Amphibious Raid exercise planned and executed by troops from the Nigerian Army, the Nigerian Navy Special Boat Service and the NNS JUBILEE will be carried out at Oron Beach in Akwa Ibom State to mark the end of the exercise.

The training and exercises in Calabar and Oron nicknamed OFEM EFIK, meaning Calabar Winds in the Efik language will be commanded by the Flag Officer Commanding the Eastern Naval Command, Rear Admiral Joe Aikhomu. The Executive Governor of Cross River State, Senator Liyel Imoke will be attending the Riverine and Jungle Exercise at Tinapa and Muddy Beach respectively while the Executive Governor of Akwa Ibom State, Obong Godswill Akpabio will attend the Amphibious Raid exercise at Oron Beach. Other dignitaries expected to attend the Oron exercise are the Chief of Army Staff, Lt General Azubike Ihejirika and the Chief of the Naval Staff, Vice Admiral Dele Ezeoba, who will equally witness the oil rig protection exercise. The leader of the Netherlands AFRICAN WINDS delegation, Colonel Fredik Swart will be paying courtesy calls on the Governors of Cross River and Akwa Ibom States on the arrival of the ship, HMNLS ROTTERDAM off the Calabar River.

It is expected that the AFRICAN WINDS training and exercises will further improve the capacity of the Nigerian Armed Forces to deal with the numerous security challenges in the Gulf of Guinea especially the stealing of crude oil and attacks on merchant ships. The programme which is in furtherance of the Chief of Defence Staff, Admiral OS Ibrahim’s drive to promote effective Joint Services operations among the Services of the Nigeria’s Armed Forces as well as friendly military forces from other countries and other maritime agencies. The Nigerian Ports Authority for example will be participating in the hydrographic survey exercise in Lagos and Calabar. In addition, the NPA has offered one of its ships, the MT SEA LION to participate in the Maritime Counter Terrorism Exercise in Lagos while a foremost indigenous oil prospecting and production company, Moni Pulo Nigeria Limited has permitted the Navy to use its Floating Production Facility, AGBANI for the oil rig protection exercise. The involvement of these non military organisations further underscores the success of the efforts of the Chief of the Naval Staff, Vice Admiral Ezeoba has been making towards achieving a collaborative effort in tackling the maritime security challenges in Nigeria and the Gulf of Guinea.

So far, the HMNLS ROTTERDAM, which has 4 Nigerian Navy young officers onboard, has successfully conducted exercises with the armed forces of Morocco, Senegal, Ghana and Togo. She is expected to exercise with the armed forces of the Republic of Benin before arriving Nigeria on 15 October. In addition to her troop carrying capacity, the ship equally operates a hospital with two operating theatres.

http://www.navy.mil.ng/press/26.news#.UlffIL5waFQ

Hull formation ceremony in China for 2 new NN OPVs;

http://www.navy.mil.ng/Photo-Gallery/44.html

Quite an interesting article;

Africa seen as $20B emerging arms market


Sept. 16, 2013
| 3:22 PM



JOHANNESBURG, South Africa, Sept. 16 (UPI) -- International defense companies, increasingly dependent on exports because of deep military spending cuts in the United States and Europe, are reportedly looking to mineral-rich Africa to help get them out of a hole.
The U.S. weekly Defense News reports that projections for defense spending in Africa, where there are established or emerging energy booms in the western and eastern regions, will exceed $20 billion over the next decade.

This is no doubt linked in part to the recent expansion of several armies in Africa, which constitutes 20 percent of the world's landmass and since the end of the colonial era in 1960s seems to have been in continual ferment with wars, coup and insurgencies.

Most of this expansion has taken place since 2001 and is primarily concerned with Western-backed efforts to bolster the region's counterterrorism capabilities.

This is particularly true in the Sahel region of northern Africa, including the oil and gas-rich Mediterranean belt, and in the Horn of Africa on the east coast, where al-Qaida and its offshoots have been highly active.

"The scramble for the African defense market has just begun, and it will continue over the next decade," says Col. Joseph Sibanda, a retired army officer in Zimbabwe and now a defense analyst.

He believes that countries like Mozambique, an impoverished former Portuguese colony that's now the center of a major gas boom with neighboring Tanzania, along with Uganda and Kenya, where oil and gas has been found, will need to recalibrate their defense requirements toward protecting their oil and gas infrastructure onshore and offshore.

These will include more patrol ships and probably maritime surveillance aircraft and possibly unmanned aerial vehicles.

"Africa will in the next few years rise to become a defense market almost at the same level with Southeast Asia," Sibanda observed.

"Military aircraft, armored vehicles and advanced artillery systems will be top of the list as African militaries and law enforcement authorities modernize to meet new security threats."

Defense News cited market analysts as saying "demand for military hardware in Africa is set to increase as governments gear up to fight terrorists and Islamic militants.

"Nations say they need better firepower, modernized forces, improved armed mobility and stronger force protection to fight militants that have become the scourge of nations throughout East, West and North Africa."

Oxford Analytica observed there has been "an expansionary period for most of sub-Saharan Africa's leading armies" as well despite the continent's widespread poverty.

This is attributed largely to expanded donor-funded peacekeeping operations involving African forces and "elevated security threat perceptions." This has been particularly evident in Uganda, Ethiopia, Kenya and Nigeria.

"Since 2001, Africa's armies appear to have enjoyed external support levels not since the height of the Cold War," Oxford Analytica observed.

"U.S. and European programs have funded initiatives aimed at 'stabilization' or 'democratic consolidation'." However, it noted that "such schemes appear to have had limited success in improving performance."

Africa has not been a key market for major Western defense contractors, although the oil-rich African states like Nigeria, Algeria and Libya have been buyers of top-tier weapon systems like aircraft, naval vessels and tanks over the years.

The only African states with indigenous arms industries are South Africa, although its Israel-linked defense sector has diminished considerably since the end of white rule in 1994, and Egypt, which since the 1979 peace agreement with Israel has largely been U.S.-oriented.

"South African companies are especially better positioned to make the best out of this business opportunity given their excellent track record in meeting continental defense needs," Sibanda said.

South Africa's defense sector is led by Denel, capable of producing advanced missile systems, world-class artillery and aerospace systems. The country, Africa's largest economy, could be a major beneficiary of a major equipment upgrade of the continent's armed forces.

Denel and B&T of Switzerland recently signed a technology transfer under which Denel will produce and market small arms ranging from submachine guns to grenade launchers.

Denel will initially use Swiss-made components whole upgrading its production plant to manufacture the parts in South Africa.

In the aviation sector, Denel Aviation recently signed a repair and service deal with Eurocopter, a division of the European defense giant EADS, that covers all AS332 Super Puma, B0 105, AS350 Ecureuil and Alouette helicopters in Africa.


Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2013/09/16/Africa-seen-as-20B-emerging-arms-market/UPI-26421379359376/#ixzz2hQZgMnxd

Fynline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNrKGppmV_Q

thanks Fynline for this nice video.

comments from senior air force officers/chiefs of air staff from Pakistan, South Africa, and Brazil all say nigerian air force aircraft are in excellent technical condition and the pilots very skillful.

reason why i warned south african navy never to attempt any blockade of nigerian waters....NAF will sink all your warships in 45 minutes, we have mastered our aircraft and know how to use them perfectly in combat with some surprise tactics that the enemy is not expecting.

agaugust:

thanks Fynline for this nice video.

comments from senior air force officers/chiefs of air staff from Pakistan, South Africa, and Brazil all say nigerian air force aircraft are in excellent technical condition and the pilots very skillful.

reason why i warned south african navy never to attempt any blockade of nigerian waters....NAF will sink all your warships in 45 minutes, we have mastered our aircraft and know how to use them perfectly in combat with some surprise tactics that the enemy is not expecting.

that does mean your pilots will not get blown out the sky

Greetings.Am I still welcome here?
Been a while.I've been unsuspended from visiting this thread.

FG Sends Another 800 Soldiers To Darfur

By: Isaiah Benjamin on October 12, 2013 - 3:50am

Another batch of 800 officers and soldiers of the Nigerian Army have been sent to Darfur, Sudan for peace operations by the federal government.

The officers and soldiers were drawn from the 342 Artillery Regiment, Owerri under 82 Division, Enugu and are expected to leave Nigeria for Darfur tomorrow.

Speaking at the graduation of the troops pre-deployment training at the Nigerian Army Peace Keeping Centre (NAPKC), Jaji, Kaduna State yesterday, the General Officer Commanding (GOC), 82 Division, Enugu, Major General Ashimiyu Olaniyi, said the four-week pre-deployment training given to the troops was to enable them protect themselves, United Nations equipment and the loyal citizens of their host nation.

The GOC, who was represented by Brigadier-General Abubakar Alkali, warned the peacekeepers to avoid being seen as a soft target due to carelessness or act of cowardice.

According to him, “I must categorically state that you must fight to discharge your duties in consonance with the mission mandate when the need arises. I must also remind you that Rules of Engagement in the mission has given you all the latitude to exhibit bravery and fight like professional soldiers while you protect yourself, your colleagues, law abiding civilians and property in the cause of executing your task”.

In his address, Commandant of NAPKC, Major General Salihu Uba, disclosed that the troop was adequately trained to ensure effective performance in any Peace Support Operation, with particular emphasis on effective operations in Darfur region of Sudan.

http://leadership.ng/news/121013/fg-sends-another-800-soldiers-darfur

Hezron Lorraine:

Greetings.Am I still welcome here?
Been a while.I've been unsuspended from visiting this thread.

you are welcome anytime here.

you missed the Congo DRC renewed combat action when Tanzanian army was commanding south african army and protecting the soweto soldiers from M23 rebels under the united nations MONUSCO force in Congo DRC. the UN force attacked the M23 rebels and we had a nice time here reading and posting comments on how the battle was going on in congo, helicopter and artillery combat by the air force of Ukaranine, army of Tanzania and South Africa joint operatios. it was fun seeing how UN was kicking the rebels in Congo.


you missed some action. go to page 806 and see NNS Aradu & F-7 jets Vs South African Navy Valour frigate in a new naval blockade simulation.

you also missed the post on the nigerian navy aircraft carrier project you talked about, i found out it was true, details not known yet but a friend of mine in the navy says there is slow but steady 'insider only' talk with china for an extended version of Type 071 LPD or smaller verion of Type 075 LHA to carry about 8 helicopters and function as a mini-aircraft carrier in nigerian navy, project may take another 3 to 5 years to implement.

"In the first, scheduled to last two years, Abuja will procure two light frigates and two 85-metre offshore patrol vessels (OPVs).

The second phase will span between two and five years, during which 10 OPVs, 20 helicopters, 1 hydrographic ship and two mine-countermeasure vessels (MVMVs) would be purchased.

The last phase would see Nigeria acquire three conventional submarines, two corvettes, two landing platforms dock (LPDs) and 20 long-range maritime patrol helicopters.

"In the future, Nigeria wants to secure the Gulf of Guinea with its Navy in order to facilitate oil trade," adds the ADIT."


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4023&Itemid=363


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^^

OMGawd,a lot has been proven already.Good job @Augaugust and my fellow nigerian brothers for reclaiming the dignity of the Nigerian Armed forces.I'm highly impressed at the spirit of nationality investe here.

Hope those e-cockroaches are no longer here,they know themselves.

Hezron Lorraine: ^^
Hope those e-cockroaches are no longer here,they know themselves.

You mean the spammers? They have been gon for some time.

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andrewza:

You mean the spammers? They have been gon for some time.

good.peace of mind at least.

andrewza:

that does mean your pilots will not get blown out the sky

by who ? Egypt or Algeria maybe. anyone else ? No.

....and nigerian navy has Aspide SAM anti-aircraft missiles with longer range than nigerian army Roland SAM

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Nigerian Navy 13km range Aspide anti-aircraft missiles.[/size]

agaugust:

by who ? Egypt or Algeria maybe. anyone else ? No.

....and nigerian navy has Aspide SAM anti-aircraft missiles with longer range than nigerian army Roland SAM

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Nigerian Navy 13km range Aspide anti-aircraft missiles.[/size]

By a lot of african countries from sa, algeria, morroco, ethyopyia, extra extra.


It is a 1970s desghine not what I would call top of the line.

Mike..ZA:
South Africa has the best infantry....

....when compared to Botswana, Lesotho, and Swaziland

It must be really sad when you talk about weapons you have but can only post pics of OTHER countries firing them, not your own. Infact it's not sad....its actually quite funny. I wonder why Nigerian admirals are so scared of going out to sea and firing weapons in exercises. Maybe because they don't know how to use them.....haha. I wonder if the Nigerian Air Force has ever fired a missile in a live simulation? Some pics would be nice. Im starting to think they buy them from China or wherever and only plan on taking them out of the package on the day of the fight. Hehe

andrewza:

By a lot of african countries from sa, algeria, morroco, ethyopyia, extra extra.


It is a 1970s desghine not what I would call top of the line.

those african countries that have 4.0 generation jets like Gripen jets and SU-30 jets but NO single beyond visual range air to air missiles have to be very careful in dogfight with 3.5 generation jets armed with PL-9C 4.0 generation jet air to air missiles like nigerian F-7 jets.

when both pilots are within visual range of each other, both are in danger of being shot down....and nigerian pilots have mastered and perfected the use of all our jets. we train regularly and dont keep any jet in 'cold freezer warehouse' long term storage due to lack of cash....like some countries do with their expensive jets

F-7 Jet of nigeria's very deadly PL-9C missile...costs $1 million for each missile


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agaugust:

....when compared to Botswana, Lesotho, and Swaziland

You are a genius.

saengine: It must be really sad when you talk about weapons you have but can only post pics of OTHER countries firing them, not your own. Infact it's not sad....its actually quite funny. I wonder why Nigerian admirals are so scared of going out to sea and firing weapons in exercises. Maybe because they don't know how to use them.....haha. I wonder if the Nigerian Air Force has ever fired a missile in a live simulation? Some pics would be nice. Im starting to think they buy them from China or wherever and only plan on taking them out of the package on the day of the fight. Hehe

show me proof that south african navy has test fired even only one of its 17 Exocet missiles since about 7 years ago your navy purchased the missiles.

try show me how DENEL tested its Umkhonto missiles as defense against one south african Exocet missile. show us the proof. we are waiting

the photo below is nigerian navy test firing one of our missiles. date of test is not disclosed by nigerian navy. photo is from nigerian navy official website.

click the weblink below, put your mouse/cursor on the "operations and support" menu but no clicks, and this photo below will appear.

proves we test fire missiles without making public noise about it. missiles are expensive to waste.

one single otomat missile of NNS Aradu costs half a million dollars.

one single PL-9C missile of F-7 jet costs $1 million !!!!!

a missile and a bullet are not the same price in the market. use your head before you write comments.

http://www.navy.mil.ng/Exercises

agaugust:

those african countries that have 4.0 generation jets but NO single BVR SRAAM have to be very careful in dogfight with 3.5 generation jets armed with PL-9C 4.0 generation jet SRAAM.

when both pilots are within visual range of each other, both are in danger of being shot down....and nigerian pilots have mastered and perfected the use of all our jets. we train regularly and dont keep any jet in 'cold freezer warehouse' long term storage due to lack of cash....like some countries do with their expensive jets

F-7 Jet of nigeria's very deadly PL-9C missile


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What is a BVR SRAAM?


The PL-9c is a export version of the PL-8 witch is a chinness liscended mafactoerd python III sraam. It uses the same seeker head(a seeker head SA has by the way) so don't try to make the PL-9 somthing it is not.


When last did nigeria put the fighters against forghin fighters. SA has put the gripens vs other gripens and torndoes along with zim F7s.

saengine: It must be really sad when you talk about weapons you have but can only post pics of OTHER countries firing them, not your own. Infact it's not sad....its actually quite funny. I wonder why Nigerian admirals are so scared of going out to sea and firing weapons in exercises. Maybe because they don't know how to use them.....haha. I wonder if the Nigerian Air Force has ever fired a missile in a live simulation? Some pics would be nice. Im starting to think they buy them from China or wherever and only plan on taking them out of the package on the day of the fight. Hehe

We know Nigerian military secrecy and media shyness can be a pain in the neck but their history already has all the evidence you need.

From the interventions in Liberia, SL, etc... The proof of their combat effectiveness and weapons usage are there for you to see (from fighter jets to naval and land battles)

Missiles and bombs are still being fired against boko haram. Unless Nigeria starts to develop and test homemade weapons, don't expect to see fancy photos cos our neighbors are no threat to us.

agaugust:

show me proof that south african navy has test fired even only one of its 17 Exocet missiles since about 7 years ago your navy purchased the missiles.

try show me how DENEL tested its Umkhonto missiles as defense against one south african Exocet missile. show us the proof. we are waiting

the photo below is nigerian navy test firing one of our missiles. date of test is not disclosed by nigerian navy. photo is from nigerian navy official website.

click the weblink below, put your mouse/cursor on the "operations and support" menu but no clicks, and this photo below will appear.

proves we test fire missiles without making public noise about it. missiles are expensive to waste.

one single otomat missile of NNS Aradu costs half a million dollars.

one single PL-9C missile of F-7 jet costs $1 million !!!!!

a missile and a bullet are not the same price in the market. use your head before you write comments.

http://www.navy.mil.ng/Exercises

[img]http://www.armsdeal-vpo.co.za/images/mm40-01.bmp [/img]
Proofe enough?

The umkhonto have been test against drones in SA and finland.

andrewza:


What is a BVR SRAAM?


The PL-9c is a export version of the PL-8 witch is a chinness liscended mafactoerd python III sraam. It uses the same seeker head(a seeker head SA has by the way) so don't try to make the PL-9 somthing it is not.


When last did nigeria put the fighters against forghin fighters. SA has put the gripens vs other gripens and torndoes along with zim F7s.

i mean BVR AAM...beyond visual range air to air missiles.

PL-9C missile is as powerful as IRIS-T missile. PL-9C is the missile on JF-17 Thunder and the JF-17 is equal to a Gripen.

Nigerian air force pilots in real life war drills have tested our F-7 jets in dogfight combat air to air against Pakistan's air force and mighty China's air force a world super power, and we know how use all our jets and missiles perfectly.

nigerian military is just not in the same noise making newspaper self-advertisement and internet publicity marketing that south african military has decided to busy itself with for many years.

south africa has turned respected military things to become like ordinary police affairs.

Nigerian F-7 jet pilots after air to air combat drills in the air engaging the air force of Pakistan

agaugust:

i mean BVR AAM...beyond visual range air to air missiles.

PL-9C missile is as powerful as IRIS-T missile. PL-9C is the missile on JF-17 Thunder and the JF-17 is equal to a Gripen.

Nigerian air force pilots in real life war drills have tested our F-7 jets in dogfight combat air to air against Pakistan's air force and mighty China's air force a world super power, and we know how use all our jets and missiles perfectly.

nigerian military is just not in the same noise making newspaper self-advertisement and internet publicity marketing that south african military has decided to busy itself with for many years.

south africa has turned respected military things to become like ordinary police affairs.

Nigerian F-7 jet pilots after air to air combat drills in the air engaging the air force of Pakistan

Ok. Because the 2 terms controdict each other.


No. It can match the range but the seeker and manvrobliety are not on the same level.

Show proof nigerian J7s have flown against these 2 nastion.

andrewza:
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Proofe enough?

The umkhonto have been test against drones in SA and finland.

Proves nothing you claimed.

Proves me right.

Proves you wrong.

show us , i said you should show us proof/source where south africa test fired any single one of its 17 Exocet missiles from a valour frigate.

also show us where DENEL test fired its over-rated Umkhonto anti-aircraft missile to stop your south african navy Exocet anti-ship missile to prove the false claim that it can work against sea skimming water hugging missiles. show us proof.

maybe your 33% soweto brain never tells you that testing a missile against a sky flying drone in the air is NOT the same as testing it against a sea water surface hugging anti-ship missile.

your little brain too does not tell you and @saengine that those umkhonto missile tests were done by DENEL as a company marketing its product, NOT south african navy test firing the umkhonto it has purchased and fire from a valour frigate.

it was DENEL that traveled to finland to test umkhonto missile against a drone for marketing purposes, NOT south african navy sailing warship to finland to test fire umkhonto missile.....you really to be spanked until your bum is sore

is there no better thinking brain in south africa than the ones we see here on nairaland ?

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