PatriotZAR: .

Henry120:


I swear, there is something really wrong with these people( south africans).

chris365:

guy grow some brains and stop adding another person's comment to yours. it's not so difficult na

PatriotZAR:

On the other hand, Nigerian Air Force is so incompetent that they rely on pakistanis for maintainenace, Training and capacity building.

PatriotZAR:

Ai.. How pathetic can an Air Force be that it would lack the capacity of training capable Pilots? Damn our Saab Griphens would have a field day blowing up what's left of Naaigeria. Being the unprofessional people you are, you won't know what hit you!

Fighter Pilot: Boko Haram lost respect for Nigerian Millitary. Yet again an Army base was attacked, resulting in many deaths of the wives and children of soldiers. As a usual practice, Nigerian military will again downplay number of casualties.

http://mobile.saharareporters.com/news-page/boko-haram-attacks-bama-army-barracks-borno-state-women-and-children-killed

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]NNS Thunder now Africa's longest range blue water Navy warship
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The extremely long-ranged NNS Thunder, capable of handling a voyage of 26,000 kms at ‘economic speeds’, is the only naval ship in Africa today which is able to execute a total circumnavigation of the continent’s 26,000km coastline on one full tank – without the need for refuelling, that is. It underscores her deserved status as an EEZ patrol asset of the highest value in Nigerian naval service.

http://beegeagle./2013/11/20/international-fleet-review-2013-nigerian-navy-ship-nns-thunder-f90-in-australia/


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chris365:

and the source of your delusions is sahara reporters? keep it up dummy

zaandrew:

Do you guys not use them has sources when they suit you?

osystein: Nigeria bigger economy than south Africa
We already know ya'll will "FALL SHORT AND BE STILL A SH8T HOLE".


u can kill urself if u want. GO HANG[/b]

GDP DOESN'T COUNT INFRUSTRUCTURE, HEALTH,EDUCATION,ELECTRICITY AND OTHERS.

Clarity for those who are trapped in GDP nonsence. GDP doesn't measure HDI Index, health, infrustructure and others. Hence GOLDMANS SACHS says GDP system is an outdated system of measuring "PROGRESS". SOUTH AFRICA IS 100 YEARS AHEAD OF NIGERIA INFRUSTRUCTURE, ELECTRICITY SUPPLY AND MANY THINGS. FACT NOT WISHY WASHY. PLEASE READ BELOW.

[b]I SAW THIS INTERESTING ARTICLE LAST NIGHT AND LAUGHED. grin grin grin grin grin grin
NIGERIA THE REGIONAL SUPER POWER NOT A GIANT OF AFRICA cry cry cry cry cry

There has been a great deal of attention paid to the rise of Nigeria as of late. Indeed, it is hard to ignore the impressive economic growth rates being posted at a time when most economies are on the decline. The government appears focused on improving government services and investing in high potential growth areas of the economy. President Goodluck Jonathan’s recent Transformation Agenda is an impressive document that many economists and analysts believe is setting the conditions for Nigeria to become the dominant economy on the African continent. The agenda emerged in 2011 out of a belief by President Jonathan that the government needed a sense of direction and a way to ensure the country’s development priorities were applied with continuity, consistency, and commitment – the so-called “3Cs”. cry cry cry cry

Such analysis of Nigeria’s trajectory is further understandable given the current distribution of economic and political power in the region. Today, there are three regional nodes of economic and political influence in Sub-Saharan Africa: South Africa, Nigeria, and Kenya. These three markets are the dominant players and generally act as hubs for continent-wide trade and commerce. They are also important interlocutors within their regions and across the continent via the African Union. Traditionally, South Africa has been the most dominant of the three, taking on leadership roles within the African Union and often representing the continent in international institutions like the United Nations Security Council. South Africa’s dominance in this respect continues, but many are now arguing that its position atop the hierarchy of African states is being economically threatened by Nigeria.

But what I find particularly remarkable about all the analyses is their failure to consider the political economy of Nigeria as a whole. Indeed, much of the contemporary analysis of Nigeria appears to gloss over, forget, or intentionally ignore some of the important structural issues that still confront it. I don’t mean to downplay the significant economic growth that Nigeria is experiencing, or of the plans to fix its problems – all of these are good things. However, it really is too soon to claim that Nigeria is posing any threat to the dominance of South Africa on the continent.

Whilst Nigeria is a hub for the movement of goods, South Africa’s capacity and infrastructure are still superior in many respects. A recent study coming out of the South African Institute of International Affairs, argues that geography and infrastructure make a real difference to economic growth potential. The study notes that South Africa still maintains a geographic advantage and advanced infrastructural capacity, ranging from deep-sea ports to container activity to strong logistics capacity, and that it is where many multinational companies have chosen to locate their headquarters. The study also warns that other countries are finding ways to improve market share of trade activity in Africa. All of these findings are correct, but the logical jump to assuming South Africa’s decline under Zuma and Nigeria’s rising dominance implied by these sorts of studies leaves me feeling skeptical for the following reasons:

First, even in light of Nigeria’s strong economic growth, its GDP is still far less than that of South Africa. In fact, we are talking about $164 billion less. Not an insignificant sum for two developing countries. Nigeria’s GDP currently sits at $244 billion whilst South Africa maintains a GDP of about $408 billion. With Nigeria’s annual growth rate of 7% that is an extra $16 billion coming into the Nigerian economy next year, in 2012 we have seen the decline of Nigeria's growth from 7% in 2011 to 6.5% and assuming growth continues on par as projected, this will have a compounded effect. In this context, it is going to take more than 20 years for Nigeria to catch up with South Africa’s economy, which is also growing at a (albeit more modest) rate of 3%. Note: with recent oil findings in Southern Africa, South Africas problems are almost done and they will rise and open the gap. This is a far lengthier period than the 2014 prediction made by some analysts, so it is quite possible that the economic fortunes of either state could change significantly. Indeed, it is believed that South African growth rates could increase if problems with labour unrest in the mining sector are resolved. This is entirely plausible if the Zuma administration negotiates a mutually acceptable plan with its union partners currently in the governing alliance. All this takes is political will.

So, Nigeria’s transition into dominance will be reliant on current growth rates, oil prices, and education investments remaining the same for the next ten years. This scenario doesn’t take into account any shifts in macroeconomic conditions or natural fluctuations in markets. As well, it assumes that Nigeria can solve some real challenges it faces with its business environment, primarily that of capital flight and corruption. Indeed, Nigeria is ranked 131 out of 185 countries as a place to do business and has stayed in the same spot for the past two years. In contrast, South Africa’s business environment has improved in the past year – it is now ranked 39th globally, a two spot jump from the 41st position that it maintained last year.

Nigeria remains rife with corruption despite efforts by the government to address it. Continentally, Nigeria is ranked 27 out of 53 states in terms of being a non-corrupt environment; internationally it is ranked 139 out of 176 countries, according to Transparency International. In contrast, South Africa ranks seventh within the region and 69th globally for non-corruption. Corruption in Nigeria is really a systemic issue and the challenge of tackling it cannot be underestimated; to do so would require sustained support from continental and international partners.

The rise of Nigeria will also be dependent on its ability to address socio-political challenges. Longstanding civil conflict due to insurgent groups, and struggles to put in place safeguard measures to protect human rights will also prevent Nigeria from becoming the dominant player on the continent. These challenges are real and if not addressed, will detract from Nigeria’s ability to assert its dominance through the use of force or through moral persuasion.

Political stability in Nigeria is still a major issue. Adding to the existing political divisions between the people in the North and South of the country are the threats that insurgent groups such as Boko Haram and Ansaru pose to stability. Indeed, the national and local level governments appear to be struggling to contain these groups that are committed to destabilizing the North and East and to undermining important development work such as the vaccinations against Polio. Civil conflict brought on by these insurgent groups and their effectiveness at undermining the authority of the state and instilling fear in the local population poses a real challenge to Nigeria’s rise as sorting out internal matters will divert attention and resources for engaging in regional or international issues. Nigeria’s inability to take leadership in intervening in regional conflicts to date, like Cote d’Ivoire and Mali, only highlight the difficulty it faces in projecting leadership outside of its borders. While it is expected that Nigeria will participate in stabilizing Mali through the provision of troops, its slow response has been surprising given its leadership role in the regional economic community of ECOWAS. South Africa, which is a reluctant intervenor in African conflicts, has committed $23 million in humanitarian aid and police training.

Finally, the Nigerian government continues to grapple with respecting human rights. Amnesty International recently released its annual report on Nigeria that notes the continuing prevalence of extrajudicial killings, enforced disappearances, forced evictions, and unlawful detention. As well, rights for the LGBTI community continue to be hindered as homosexuality is still illegal in Nigeria and the president is planning on signing the Same Sex Marriage (Prohibition) Bill that was passed by the Nigerian Senate in 2011. All of this impacts Nigeria’s ability to act as a moral actor on the continent and internationally. South Africa, on the other hand, continues to be a moral actor as a result of the strong human rights provisions within its constitution and the existence of a constitutional court that effectively upholds those provisions.

When considering the “rise” of countries, it is important to remember that influence and dominance are also determined by other socio-political conditions than just the economy. The political reality of Nigeria includes real efforts to improve economic conditions in the country but also persistent problems that, if left unresolved, will undermine its ability to influence and dominate in Africa. In this light, it is important that one-dimensional analyses based on economic growth figures be tempered and contextualized against the challenges the country faces. [/b][/b]


http://nairaland.com/1561136/nigeria-economy-largest-africa-rebasing

rka1:

rka1: ''I will continue to let you hang yourself. The Gulma was built indigenously by our engineers with only the camera being a foreign component.''

Me: Hehe.. It's so unfair that you'd sideline Cranfield's Aerospace Engineers like this and take all the credit. They did enormous work too, rka1.
A 5-year old can believe as much as he wants that he can fly, He'll never do. Same way as you and your fellow countrymen believe that Gulma UAV is an indigenously made drone while it is not and it will NEVER be indigenous.

rka1: ''You are very funny, do you know how many pilots we have trained over the years ? Google is your friend to look up the NAF's training command, both fixed wing and helicopter training. You comedian

osystein: @kwame tut
won't it be great if you'd post these on the thread i linked to, there are more people following that thread than this one. What does all this have to do with the military.

PatriotZAR: ''
Me: How many pilots have you trained over the years? I can search the farthest corners of the Web i'll never find info on the training commands of the NAF because as Agaugust wouldlove to say, ''Nigerian Military is secretive''. Well we all know why they are so untransparent...They do not want to be the laughing stock of Africa especially not when Nigerians consider themselves the 'Giant of Africa'.

You're welcome to bring whatever good info you have on your Airforce's training.

rka1:

Organisation Structure of The Nigerian Air Force



Training Command

The first requirement of any air force is a constant supply of a crop of highly motivated and competent airmen and airwomen. No matter the level of sophistication of platforms, they cannot attain the mission objectives if the personnel behind them are ill trained and incompetent.

The NAF therefore places great premium on training and re-training of its personnel to ensure a high state of readiness at all times.

To achieve optimum personnel skills at reasonable costs, the NAF established the to enable her embark on the development of an internal training capacity. The Command is tasked with the responsibility for all local training both in the air and on the ground. Since its establishment in August 1978, TC has been involved in the provision of both initial and advanced training for NAF pilots, paratroopers and air traffic controllers.

Ground training is also provided for support services and technical personnel. So far, the Command has trained over 1,699 Officers and 10,150 airmen and women in various trade specialities.
The Command is organised into a Command Headquarters located in Kaduna with three Staff Branches namely: Operations, Logistics and Administration. The Air Officer Commanding (AOC) heads the Command, assisted by a Senior Air Staff Officer and Principal Staff Officers.
There are 10 field units under the Command comprising 3 flying training schools, 2 ground training facilities, a logistics group, 3 medical facilities and 2 other administrative units. The locations of the units are as follows:
i. 301 Flying Training School, Kaduna.
ii. 303 Flying Training School, Kano.
iii. 305 Flying Training School, Enugu.
iv. 320 Technical Training Group, Kaduna.
v. 325 Ground Training Group, Kaduna.
vi. 330 NAF Station Jos.
vii. 333 Logistics Group, Kaduna.
viii. 335 Base Services Group, Kaduna.
ix. 345 Aeoromedical Hospital, Kaduna.
x. NAF Hospital, Jos.
xi. The Aeromedical Centre Project at Kaduna.

301 Flying Training School
The 301 Flying Training School (301 FTS) is the cradle of pilot training in the NAF. It started as the Light Transport and Liaison Squadron in 1964 and was charged with the responsibility of converting NAF pilots who were returning home from overseas training. However, with the outbreak of the Civil War in 1967, the nation’s need for pilots increased while the available slots for pilots’ training overseas became inadequate to meet the country’s operational needs. Consequently, the Light Liaison Transport Squadron was tasked to undertake primary flying training in addition to its original task of converting NAF pilots. As a result, the Squadron grew in strength and was later redesignated as the Primary Flying Training Wing (PFTW). Following further expansion and subsequent re-organisation of the NAF in 1984, the Wing was upgraded and renamed the 301 Flying Training School (301 FTS).
The school has over the years, used several aircraft types for ab-initio training purposes. It started training with the Piaggio-149D aircraft from Germany. This was later replaced with the Bulldog 123. Other aircraft types operated in the 60s and 70s were the DO-27, DO-28 and DO 128-2. Currently, the aircraft holding of the school include the Airbeetle ABT-18, Dornier 128-6 and the DO-228 aircraft series.
Since its inception, the school has trained over 600 pilots for the NAF including the first set of pilots for the Nigerian Navy. The school has assisted in the training of pilots from friendly African countries including 5 from the Republic of Benin, 4 from Cape Verde, 3 from Niger Republic, 10 from Zimbabwe and one from Sierra Leone.
These are spread between Student Pilot Courses 1 and 32 (SP 1 to Sp 32) with the present batch undergoing training as SP 33. The number of students trained could have been higher but for the six year period (1988-1994), when NAF suffered a debilitating lull in training due to lack of funds to sustain training. However, with the emphasis on training by the current NAF leadership, the School is fully operational and the training backlog is being redressed.
301 FTS is also tasked to conduct operational conversion, type-rating and recurrency training for NAF transport pilots on the Dornier aircraft series. Furthermore, it provides light liaison and VIP transport as well as courier services for the NAF. Besides it primary roles of ab-initio and transport pilot training, 301 FTS has featured in aerial displays during NAF and National day celebrations.
It has also been involved in various internal security initiatives and joint exercises. Prominent among these are the Maitatsine Crises in Kano, the Ops Harmony series in the Northeastern parts of the country and simulated air cover during Nigerian Defence Academy cadets training exercises.

303 Flying Training School
Following the Statutory Act of Parliament that officially established the NAF in April 1964, some basic organizational structure was put in place for the nascent service to function properly. One of these structures was the Nigerian Air Force Tactical and Technical Wing (NAFTW) Kaduna, comprising the Military Training School (MTS), Light Transport and Liaison Squadron (LTLS) and support elements of administration, engineering and supply.
NAF Kano was born out of the LTLS in August 1967. NAF Kano, then a detachment was established as a result of the expansion embarked upon by the NAF to prosecute the civil war. At that time, the unit was tasked with conducting operational training for combat crew on the L-29, MiG 15 and 17 aircraft types.
In 1969, the detachment was transformed into a pilot training institution with student pilots of Basic Flying Course One (BFC 1) as the first intake. Today, 11 basic flying courses have been concluded with the current one being BFC 12 Bravo.
During the post civil war reorganization between 1970 and 1975 the unit was renamed Advanced Flying Training Wing (AFTW). However, by March 1975, the station was upgraded to a group status known as Flying Training Group (FTG) with two Flying Wings namely, Primary Flying Training Wing (PFTW) stationed at Kaduna and Basic Flying Training Wing (BFTW) located in Kano. The MiG 21s and Alpha Jets were at various times stationed at Kano before relocating to their bases at Makurdi and Kainji. The school attained its present status in 1985, when it was renamed 303 Flying Training School (303 FTS), with the sole responsibility of conducting basic flying training on jet aircraft using the L-29 aircraft type. The L-29 aircraft hitherto used as basic trainer aircraft was later phased out due to age and replaced with the MB-339 Aermachi in June 1985. By 1986, the L-39ZA aircraft was introduced as the basic trainer, while the MB-339 was re-roled as a close support aircraft.
In 1989, the Instructor Pilot Training Wing was established to give NAF a capacity to train its instructor pilots locally. The wing, which was initially designated as Instructor Pilot School (IPS), was meant to be an independent unit to be located in Minna (Niger State). However following the rationalization of NAF units, the IPS remained in Kano as a wing under 303 FTS. The primary role of the Instructor Pilot Training Wing (IPTW) is to produce instructor pilots on fast jet aircraft for the NAF.
Since its inception, the 303 FTS has trained 112 pilots comprising Nigerians and foreigners. The foreigners include 4 pilots from Zimbabwe and 8 Ghanaians who attended a conversion course on the L-29 aircraft. As in the case of the primary training programmes, the lull of 1988 to 1994 also affected the basic flying training programme. However with the re-newed focus on training by the current NAF leadership, a new momentum has been introduced into the activities of the school.

305 Flying Training School
The 305 Flying Training School (305 FTS) Enugu, metamorphosed from NAF Station Enugu, which was established in the mid-1970s. NAF Station Enugu was the home of the MiG 17 fighter aircraft until 1981, when the Headquarters of Tactical Air Command (HQ TAC) and Air Defence Group (ADG) were established at Makurdi.
Subsequently, following the recognition of the need to train its own helicopter pilots locally, the NAF established 305 FTS as an ab-initio and basic helicopter flying school. Being the first and only one of its kind in the sub-region, the 305 FTS was established to provide helicopter training for pilots of the NAF and sister Services of the armed forces as well as friendly African countries. On 22 February 1987, the pioneer set of helicopter pilots to be trained locally commenced training as Basic Helicopter Flying Course 1 (BHFC 1) on the Hughes 300C helicopter.
However, during the rationalisation of NAF units in 1991, the School was downgraded to a wing status and relocated to 97 Special Operations Group Port Harcourt, while what was left became a NAF detachment. In subsequent years, the need to have an autonomous helicopter training school to complement the fixed wing schools at 301 and 303 FTS led to the re-establishment of 305 FTS Enugu in June 2000. By 2001, the unit became active again and the Mi-34C trainer helicopter was introduced into NAF inventory to replace the Hughes 300. The same lull that befell NAF aircrew training also affected this school, thus since its inception, only 2 courses have been graduated with BHFC 3 just about to commence flying. The unit currently conducts local type-rating courses for its engineers and technicians.

320 Technical Training Group
The Nigerian Civil War resulted in the introduction of a variety of aircraft and associated weapon systems into the service of the then young NAF. The introduction of these weapon systems brought with it a corresponding increase in the need for skilled manpower to operate and maintain these machines. The NAF at that time relied on her foreign partners to develop the required manpower. The idea of establishing a NAF Logistics and Supply School was initiated after the Civil War in 1970, in order to increase the number of training slots and to conserve scarce foreign exchange. The Nigerian Air Force Technical Training Wing was thus established in 1977 with the collaboration of Messrs Dornier GMBH of Germany. The School was established to provide basic training for officers and men in the fields of aircraft maintenance, armament technology, supply and maintenance of ground communication equipment.
It was also the responsibility of the Group to conduct relevant up-grading courses for all logistics trade specialists in the NAF. The quality training offered by the schools has helped considerably in enhancing the NAF’s maintenance capabilities. The school has also trained a good number of personnel from the air forces of friendly sister African countries.

325 Ground Training Group
The 325 Ground Training Group started as Military Training School (MTS) under NAF Tactical Training Wing (NAFTTW) when the NAF Base Kaduna was established in 1963. It was responsible for the training of recruits. The MTS was re-designated Military Training Wing (MTW) in 1975 when NAFTTW was upgraded to become NAF Ground Training Group (NAFGTG). The Wing was later upgraded to a group status and called Military Training Group (MTG) in 1984. When a new establishment came into effect in 1991, the then Administrative Services Training Group (ASTG) was merged with MTG to form the Ground Training Group (GTG). With the Establishment Order of 2000, the Group was re-designated as 325 Ground Training Group.
Over the years the unit’s roles have widened to cover provision of non-technical training in other air force specialities, particularly with the suspension of overseas training for certain trade specialties for both officers and airmen. These include basic and further training in personnel and accounting specialities, air police, physical education and regiment courses.

330 NAF Station Jos
The NAF Station Jos was established to provide administrative and logistics support for the military schools namely, the Air Force Military School (AFMS) and the Air Force Girls Military School (AFGMS). Since inception, the AFMS and AFGMS have turned out 1,500 junior airmen and 588 junior airwomen respectively.
The AFGMS has since become a Comprehensive Secondary School following NAF’s decision to de-emphasise rigorous military training for girls.

333 Logistics Group
The 333 Logistic Group is responsible for 3rd and 4th line maintenance of aircraft used for flying training operations at 301 FTS and the 81 Air Maritime Group. The 4th line maintenance function of the Group also involves the conduct of the periodic engine overhaul on the DO128-6 and DO-228 aircraft. In addition to its maintenance task, the unit co-ordinates the local training programme for the NAF engineers and technicians on the aircraft types within its locality. It is noteworthy that the 333 Logistics Group recently commenced the reactivation of its equipment in readiness for Research and Development (R & D) projects. The R & D programme is intended to enable the unit to produce various aircraft components and spares. The Group worked assiduously in the joint NAF and Messrs Dornier-AEIP venture, to produce the first locally manufactured aircraft type in Nigeria, the Air Beetle ABT-18.

335 Base Services Group
The 335 BSG like its counterparts in TAC and LC is responsible for providing welfare and administrative support services for the various groups located in its vicinity. It also provides similar support to HQ TC, the Air Faculty of the Armed Forces Command and Staff College and the Air Wing of the Nigerian Defence Academy.

345 Aeromedical Hospital
The Aeromedical Hospital located in the Kaduna Base is the only one of its type in the NAF. The hospital was recently upgraded to the status of a 60-bed hospital. The upgrading is designed to enable the hospital meet the increasing demand for medical health care in the Kaduna Base and the NAF as a whole. This hospital also conducts annual medical fitness examinations for all aircrew specialties as well as routine medical examinations for NAF personnel right from the point of intake. It is expected that in the near future, the hospital will be fully equipped to the standard of a teaching and research hospital.

NAF Hospital Jos
The NAF Hospital, Jos provides health care services for NAF personnel and the 2 NAF secondary schools in Jos.

Aeromedical Centre Project
More than two decades ago, the NAF realized the need for a well-equipped medical facility to cater solely for the specialized medical demands of its aircrew. The objective is to enhance safety by ensuring that only medically fit personnel are allowed to fly. Consequently, efforts were made to establish an aeromedical centre. It is expected that on completion, the NAF Aeromedical Centre will be a centre of excellence with one of the most comprehensive facilities in the world. The facility is expected to reduce aircrew training cost compared with the cost of training personnel abroad. It will also reduce accident rates attributable to human factors. Besides, it will improve the selection process of potential pilots, while engineers and technicians will be exposed to new developments in the aviation industry. It is hoped that the Aeromedical Centre will also provide the same services to the civil aviation sector and conduct relevant research into peculiar problems associated with flying in tropical environments.


http://www.nigerianairforce.net/nafstructure/TC.aspx

zaandrew:

It all so has no missiels of any kind or any means to defend against a air attack. It is prety much a only good for fighting pirats.

Not to menstion thanks to drakensberg the SA navy can sail a task force any where in the world.

osystein: Nigeria bigger economy than south Africa


http://nairaland.com/1561136/nigeria-economy-largest-africa-rebasing