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Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Onlytruth(m): 9:06pm On Apr 10, 2010 |
ChinenyeN: I swear I can only figure out about 2% of the bold quote, yet that is Igbo! I completely agree with you. lol! |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Dede1(m): 10:38pm On Apr 10, 2010 |
ChinenyeN: Nwadede kwuachakwa onu |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by grafikdon: 11:27pm On Apr 10, 2010 |
Onlytruth: Hehe. . . it is always fun to watch the ITK Professors of Igbology paint a picture with their ignorance. They are usually quick to jump into these "Igbotic" threads and argue over nothing. Now I have to speak in the language of my ethnic group, which is not Igbo btw. . . 1. Ashi unu shi nevu lituo, unu ashi n'ive wu ghaa ghaa wuu wuu. 2. Nihi owheke hu no kanihi, solo umuazi alului aka n'utuohu esi ye n'imi. 3. Bia Ika! Bia kaanwa! Bia Kana! Bia mbe! Ashim ghu bia Ika! Asumgu bia kaanwa! 4. Waa! Eene! Kpaa! On a serious note, Ndi be anyi si na onye ji mmadu n'ala ji onwe ya. So ihe m nwere igwa ndi iberibe na ndi amosu a na bu ha hu ebe obuna edere "Igbo", ahu ana ama ha pepepe ka ndi aduru ogwu anwu n'otule bu. . . OSUKOSU NWA MKPI! Inyuo anwu, ogbaputagi kpakpando n'anya. 'Nuff said. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Kobojunkie: 11:56pm On Apr 10, 2010 |
grafikdon: abegi . . . go siddon somewhere. You sure say the same no apply to you? @Graffikdon. From where I sit, the same applies to you, and those on your side of this debate. lol |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by henry101(m): 12:54am On Apr 11, 2010 |
purplelady: una don carry come again. which one is left igbo? |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by 006(m): 4:37am On Apr 11, 2010 |
grafikdon: An attempt to interpret to Igbo izugbe (central Igbo) - - - 1. Ashi unu shi nevu lituo, unu ashi n'ive wu ghaa ghaa wuu wuu. = Asi m unu sina ebe a lituo, unu asi na-ihe a bu ga ga wo wo. 2. Nihi owheke hu no kanihi, solo umuazi alului aka n'utuohu esi ye n'imi. = Nihi na ofeke a no na-ana nihi, solo umuaka alu aka na ike na-esi na imi. 3. Bia Ika! Bia kaanwa! Bia Kana! Bia mbe! Ashim ghu bia Ika! Asumgu bia kaanwa! = Bia ebe a! Bia ebe a nwa! Bia kene! Bia ebe a! Asi m gi bia ebe a nwa. 4. Waa! Eene! Kpaa! = Mba! |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by udezue(m): 4:18pm On Apr 11, 2010 |
Igbo language is so diverse. Ngwa dialect if you are not very familiar is like its own language sef lol. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by henry101(m): 6:47pm On Apr 11, 2010 |
udezue: Dis is a fact, check out dis song igbanke song from edo state. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUJXEVGTIM8 |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by ChinenyeN(m): 11:28pm On Apr 14, 2010 |
Question to the non-Igbo. If my own Ngwa people declared ourselves a separate ethnicity, would you also show your support for our decision the way you have shown your support for the Ikwere? Or would you make a mockery of our "right to DENY the term being used to qualify [us]"? I'd like an honest answer, thank you. Reference Quote: Kobojunkie. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by oge4real(f): 11:46pm On Apr 14, 2010 |
Is that why they added "R" to almost every word to make it meaningless? Imagine Umuokoro has become Rumuokoro. Abeg make dem go sidon for dirty. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Abagworo(m): 11:55pm On Apr 14, 2010 |
oge4real: so wrong of you to say that.rumu is akpo,obio and partly emowhua dialect.some parts of ikwerre use umu or omu.what about nmu that my dialect uses? |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by ChinenyeN(m): 11:57pm On Apr 14, 2010 |
That "r" is a legitimate lexical characteristic. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by wedapeople(f): 2:21am On Apr 15, 2010 |
Does it make your life any better stating what you are. @ least you got the spelling right(IGBO) which makes me think that you are lieing to the man/woman in the mirror. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by TOUCHNOT(m): 2:11pm On Apr 15, 2010 |
nobody give a shit if u are igbo's or not, all ya names are IGBO'''' bOO u all need to stop. and start bearing ur so ikwerre name, to hell with u all the igbo's dont need ur Ass |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Lasthy: 7:24pm On Apr 15, 2010 |
This is all rubbish. I find it quite amazing how a people can be so confused and the so called Ikwere’s suitably fit into this scenario. You speak Igbo language, bear Igbo names but chose to claim Fulani or whatever as your ethnic group, you can all go on deceiving yourselves. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Nobody: 8:53pm On Apr 15, 2010 |
Dede1: ah ah See this cheap liar. You are attacking me when i'm pointing out something thats true. Edo means no shet in Igbo and Bini means no shet in Ikwerre. You are just too dumb. same goes to igbo_boy. Do you know Bini is a yoruba word?coined from ile-ibinu? But it just happens that ikwe-rre means dirt in benin and igbo means slave in edo. It's in the Bini dictionary. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by ChinenyeN(m): 9:15pm On Apr 15, 2010 |
abi dem no wan ansa ma kweshion? ChinenyeN: |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by 006(m): 6:53am On Apr 16, 2010 |
Excerpt from Letters & Viewpoints by Johnbull Diepreye "What Dr Peter Odili has done is tantamount to having an Asaba man preside over Delta state, and after his 8 year tenure pick another Ukwuani man to succeed him, which represent handing the baton from one Igbo to another Igbo in a multi-ethnic state. Such a move is bound to cause a backlash and crisis if not nipped in the bud. The attempt to hide under an invented and imaginary "Ikwerre ethnic nationality" to justify the brazen injustice is a monumental fraud that must be resisted. The ethnic identity of each group in Nigeria has long been established under the British colonial administration for almost a century, and subsequent anthropological, cultural and linguistic researches has confirmed same. Any attempt to seek to confuse the facts in order to benefit from another turn by the same ethnic group as Rivers state governor is bound to unavoidably lead to crisis. We use this opportunity to thank elder statesman Chief Alabo Graham Douglas for alerting the public to the unfolding fraud being perpetrated by Dr Peter Odili and sending a petition to the presidency in protest.” Lol, you can run but you can't hide. 1 Like |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by igboboy1(m): 9:31am On Apr 16, 2010 |
babaearly: My friend Sharap there, u dey Ph dey talk nonsense no let me corner u |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by ChinenyeN(m): 12:42pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
Some people seem to have no idea of the meaning and implication of "ethnicity" and "ethnic group". |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Dede1(m): 1:50pm On Apr 18, 2010 |
I had the opportunity to attend occasion marking the 80th birthday ceremony of King TJT Princewill Amaechi XI of Kalabari Kingdom. Throughout the festivity, I found myself swinging between happiness, intrigue and sadness. The sadness came from the craps such as denial of someone’s ethnicity that have recently graced the national dailies and Internet forums. I often wonder the dividend accrued from such dastardly behavior from deluded punks that engage in such endeavor. The intrigue weighed on me through the display of cultural activities that were not different from the fundamental experience I had while growing up as an Igbo chap. The happiness poured from the fact that I stood witness to the celebration of 80th birthday bash for King Princewill Amaechi XI of Kalabari Kingdom. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by PiodeGidgeRow: 12:29am On Apr 20, 2010 |
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Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by ow11(m): 6:24am On Apr 20, 2010 |
Dede1: I thought his name was King TJT Princewill Amachree XI. How did you come by the Amaechi? |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Abagworo(m): 7:42am On Apr 20, 2010 |
ow11:me too.i wonder how dede1 came about that.2ndly i thought this thread was all about ikwerre and greater igbo not kalabari or ijaw. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Tumuzi: 8:08pm On May 01, 2010 |
The thing people fail to understand is that nobody called themselves Igbo before british came to nigeria. Do you even know the meaning of the word "Igbo." The way people use it today to identify themselves originated in the slave era. In precolonial times "igbos" did not refer to themselves as such. So in reality people languages and customs to the so called "Igbo" are not denying anything at all. Holp this helps the confusion people have about the term "Igbo." ***Im new to nairaland by the way, i think this is a very interesting website, so ill posting from time to time |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by AndreUweh(m): 8:17pm On May 01, 2010 |
If the Igbo do not know themselves as Igbo, how did the slave masters document about Igbo slaves. The slave masters never wrote about Ngwa, Umuahia, Ndoni, Ndoki, Nkwerre, Ikwerre, Igberre etc but Igbo. Igbo is older than what you people think. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Tumuzi: 8:54pm On May 01, 2010 |
Andre Uweh:The culture of people called "Igbo" today is old. But the self "identity" and "ethnicity" of being "Igbo" all began in the slave era. Why else do you think Igbo people have always been politically fragmented as a society. Have you read the writings of Olaudah Equiano a former igbo slave he explains this quite clearly about how he became to know himself as Igbo. And the slave masters could care less what about the true identity of slaves, they were there to make money. "Igbo" in a sense is a coined term due to a significant period of invasions, the same way "Bantu" is a coined term to a lot of africans by Europeans. There is a lot of information about how Igbos came to know themselves as Igbo people. The truth is slavery is a big part of the reason, its sad but its true. Why else is there not a clear cut meaning of "Igbo" because people never saw themselves as such before the white man came thats a FACT. Theres a lot of evidence on the transgressions of Igbo identity. This book is a start. http://books.google.com/books?id=rzBBUKRO4DwC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Violence,+Migration,+and+Becoming+Igbo&source=bl&ots=Ey54uqSdX3&sig=v8-nWVo6gcrG_RXaTmH_5zBbsRo&hl=en&ei=42bcS9HJHobK9gTLp6WyBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Violence%2C%20Migration%2C%20and%20Becoming%20Igbo&f=false |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by ChinenyeN(m): 8:58pm On May 01, 2010 |
Andre Uweh:Slave masters referred to most, if not all, of the southeast as "Igbo"/"Ibo"/"Ebo" (or Eboe Country). "Igbo Identity" as we know it now, is a recent development. Tumuzi is correct. Although, Tumuzi, if I'm remembering correctly, there is actually a group of people within Igboland whose name is actually "Igbo", but they're the only ones that I know of who bear "Igbo" as their actual group name (before colonialism). |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Dede1(m): 9:06pm On May 01, 2010 |
@ Abagworo and Ow11 The name switch was a typographical error. There was no intent to deceive onlooker. However, you missed the intention of the post. Though differ in language, the Amachree XI and his Kalabari Kingdom had similar band of culture with Ndigbo. There should have been no rancor in any form of affinity between the Ijo of old Rivers State and Ndigbo talk less of Ikweere. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by Dede1(m): 9:14pm On May 01, 2010 |
Tumuzi: What an arrant nonsense. I guess you are not insinuating that British indentified the people as Igbo. Or the people did not identify themselves as IGBO before the British colonialists. Please educate us on the collective name of this group of people as presented to the colonialists. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by hackney(m): 9:45pm On May 01, 2010 |
Does anyone really care who comes from where? It does not affect the standard of living of the common man in any way so what's the f.u.ck.ing point? I find that this continous attempt to tag people collectively is just for selfish purposes of the elite few. |
Re: I Am Not Igbo, I Am Ikwerre! by AndreUweh(m): 9:47pm On May 01, 2010 |
Tumuzi. How about towns such as Amaigbo, Igbo Ukwu, Akwukwu Igbo etc. Did the slave masters or the British give them such names. How did they arrive at such names 800 years ago if they did not know they were Igbo?. |
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