Redman44:

. . . Is it not Pastor  Enoch Adeboye [ I respect him and his Ministry ] that told a gathering of thousands of Area Pastors, Deacons and Workers that God told him if the rapture should take place at the moment he was speaking to them, only about 3-5 people would make heaven? The story still makes me shudder in fear and trembling as I type this post. . . .

nuclearboy:

@vanitty:

Did you read anything I wrote at all?

Who are the unbelievers here you are talking about? The questions you REFUSE to answer are many and they show you to not be sure of what you are saying - [1] those "great servants" that Jesus Himself said He will say He does not know - are they Christian pastors or Imams? [2] Why will He say He never knew these"workers of iniquity" if they are and did right AND taught what was right? [3] Who was God talking to in Malachi (priests or regular israelis? [4] Have you ever noticed that fanatics (Jos and suicide bombers are examples) turn everything into a fight instead of bringing "true proof" and that it is because they have only lies to depend on so they "da si rough"? [5] Why are you turning this into a fight and insults if you have truth on your side? Why not just "show forth your strong reasons like Is 45 says?

Nobody tells you NOT to give but if you think you can bribe God for "blessing" or open the windows of Heaven through tithes, 

The berean Christians are praised in the Bible ONLY because whatever even Paul told them, they went back home and checked the scriptures to be sure he was telling the truth - are you a berean Christian or following sheepishly? There's no fight here. Just bring truth, facts, Bible verses backed by study not half baked rubbish that depends on insults to make oneself look good. No man can support God. Remember the Pharisees kept trying to say they were supporting God by fighting Jesus.

Bring your facts to the table

nuclearboy:

Jesoul will have to forgive me here!

@Joagbaje:

Watch your mouth. Blaspheme? Because I speak about one swing-hipped fake-phonetics spouting likely homosexual mofo, you say I'm blashpheming? You don craze before abi you chop rabbit food with fried eggs?

WTF do you think your oyaks is? Greater than Peter when Paul rebuked him? Or that he is our high priest when the Bible says there is only one high priest in the entire priesthood of believers and that Jesus Christ? Where's the seniority in that aside your asinine grovelling for Naira's sake.

Men of God? And what am I, Aletheia, Enigma, you, Africankel etc? Men of bottles? Or men of plastic? Well, maybe you are a man of satan anyway. idol worshipper worshipping fake jeri-curls. Ode agbalagba!

Someone please warn this $%^@###.

22 “You shall truly tithe all the increase of your grain that the field produces year by year.

23 And you shall eat before the LORD your God, in the place where He chooses to make His name abide, the tithe of your grain and your new wine and your oil, of the firstborn of your herds and your flocks, that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.

24 But if the journey is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, or if the place where the LORD your God chooses to put His name is too far from you, when the LORD your God has blessed you, 25 then you shall exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place which the LORD your God chooses. 26 And you shall spend that money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen or sheep, for wine or similar drink, for whatever your heart desires; you shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your household. 27 You shall not forsake the Levite who is within your gates, for he has no part nor inheritance with you.

28 “At the end of every third year you shall bring out the tithe of your produce of that year and store it up within your gates. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion nor inheritance with you, and the stranger and the fatherless and the widow who are within your gates, may come and eat and be satisfied, that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.

Mkpotu:

@Poster as per Topic;

There is nothing wrong in calling up people that have their tithe to the altar and then pray for them. For your information, it is not only in RCCG that such is done, it is usually done in most churches and I do not see it as a new thing in RCCG or anything that could give any sane person this kind of concern. Whether they say people with their tithe should stand up for prayers and later they still match to the altar to drop and calling them to the altar for prayers and thereafter, they drop their tithe, to me I believe they are the same thing.

Meanwhile, announcement for tithing is usually done every Sunday (for convenience as different people have different times/period they receive their salaries/wages/remuneration), so I don't see the reason why you are bothered that you are seated except your conscience is really disturbing you as per not tithing. It's just conscience thing and nobody cares who goes this Sunday and who goes the next Sunday. Mind u, may be your church/parish is smaller because in some bigger ones, people with their tithe are asked to raise it up, after prayers, the ushers go around and collect them.

As per looking for the Biblical interpretation, there is no format/procedure stated in the bible on how to bring your tithe to the house of God.

bong4:

Well ,Well, Well Only the stingy will oppose tithing and expect God to talk to them on it directly. Go to Malachi 3 and read up. It is not compulsory but if you believe the God that said You shall be blessed and That The Lord is thy Shepherd, why is it too difficult for you to believe that you must pay your tithe. Besides God is not a beggar and your ten percent will not, i repeat will add shishi to his numerous wealth. How much do you guys even make that you think tithing should be difficult?

Mkpotu:

@KunleOshob, all these things are clearly stated in the Bible both in the Deut. 14:22-29 (usually done Catholic & Anglican churches as in Bazaar/thanksgiving where people bring things and they are later sold in the church) which you quoted as well as Malachi 3:6-12 (an obligation with a promise attached)
Why I do not really like venturing into argument about tithing is because I know in the past I have not really kept this obligation as a Christian, but that does not mean that when people are taught or encouraged to pay tithe, it is now a sin/fraud. Most of us are fund of choosing the ones that suits us whilst the unsuitable ones are criticized and argued against.

As a Christian, we are obliged to pay our tithe, most times it is not really easy but we are enjoined to do it. This is similar to telling you as a Christian, do not commit fornication or adultery, but you see most times how many of us Christians keep to it. it is simple, judgment is not for us but for God.

What I can understand from the tithing stuff is that, It is an instruction from God for us to observe and there is a promise/reward for it; Malachi 3:10-12 and I know it works. I do not think it was the pastors/ Rev. Fathers that put this Chapter of the Bible and I believe the Bible should be read as a whole and not in segment or piece meal.  

fabay:

u had better fear God.The issue of tithing is not by force. all what the pastor needs to do is to make the congragation understand and see the importance of tihte. Mind what you say about these anointed men of God o. Respect the anoionting!!!!!.

Its not by force.

Re: New Rccg's Tithe Collection Format
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am sorry but if ure a christian and u find tithe payn difficult. . . . . then y u a christian?
No be the same Bible we dey read?

The biblical thing is to pay your [size=16pt]damn tithe[/size] simple. . . . . . 10% of wut u earn!
some pay it weekly, some monthly!
how the church chooses to collect it is not my business!

if ure a christian that believes the bible, u should know that ure robbing God and robbing urself indirectly!

simple

007busman:

. . .
Those of you that think you have study bible so much that the issue of tithing is not relevant are just fooling yourself.I want to ask which of the word of God is to be discarded, is it from the old testament or the new one.Have you forgotten that thou shall not add or remove from the word of God those that are doing that has been cursed by God already.Why must you obey the ten commandment and decided not to honour the payment of tithe in the same testament.You guys just love where you will go and the sermon will be preach to suit your purpose.

22 “You shall truly tithe all the increase of your grain that the field produces year by year.

23 And you shall eat before the LORD your God, in the place where He chooses to make His name abide, the tithe of your grain and your new wine and your oil, of the firstborn of your herds and your flocks, that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.

24 But if the journey is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, or if the place where the LORD your God chooses to put His name is too far from you, when the LORD your God has blessed you, 25 then you shall exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place which the LORD your God chooses. 26 And you shall spend that money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen or sheep, for wine or similar drink, for whatever your heart desires; you shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your household. 27 You shall not forsake the Levite who is within your gates, for he has no part nor inheritance with you.

28 “At the end of every third year you shall bring out the tithe of your produce of that year and store it up within your gates. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion nor inheritance with you, and the stranger and the fatherless and the widow who are within your gates, may come and eat and be satisfied, that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.

ogajim:

^^^ Mind control is a serious thing or these guys would not be defending a topic that has been hashed plenty of times here on NL but they seem to use every opportunity they have to regurgitate what they were "INSTRUCTED" to do or they want to be just like the others who do it out of conviction.

I wanted to use this thread to find out why they now have to come out and to see if it was Biblical, they have retorted to insults and "how dare you question a Pastor/"MOG". I am not sure they know the Priesthood has changed but maybe they might find out sooner than later so we all can stop following the herd instead of chatting our own courses.

Suppressed people (mental and physical) find it VERY HARD to maintain a position independently, Jesus Christ came to show the way and how hard is it to follow his footsteps

sly-k:

this na church matter.

keep off!

pay if you like--no pay if you like

davidylan:

I am in a church where they are sometimes asked to wave their tithes in the air. I have no problems waving nothing.

nuclearboy:

@ Olaadegbu:

Dim-D:

I follow the style of Jesus and call hypocrites hypocrites but resort to love when discussing with innocent people. Chaps here are mainly reasonable people though gullible. Did you ever notice how Jesus related with such? He loved them, fed them, taught them, healed them etc. They, He called His people.

nuclearboy:

With your type, (hypocrites who want the adulation of men and to be seen as leaders, who want the high places and go about screaming "I am a priest",) do you recall what names/terms Jesus used? -? hypocrites, white washed sepulchers (which means a grave cleaned on the outside but rotting and full of maggots inside), Self-righteous, saying they fight for God when their God is their tummies etc!

nuclearboy:

The Bible says todays priesthood is after the order of Melchizedek, not the levitical order. Who did Melchizedek pay tithes to if he's our example and why didn't Jesus EVER collect tithes?