Why is the Western Sudanese mallam still typing epistles on here. I asked one simple question namely:

What year was the Petroleum and Land Use Act formulated.

It is based on these 2 laws that the Western Sudanese lay claim to our natural resources, and may I add the lionshare, based on falsified census figures.

If the Western Sudanese mallam could simply answer that question, we can continue the debate under defined axioms and logical lines of reasoning.

In its 5-4 decision in the case of Kelo v. City of New London, the U.S. Supreme Court issued an important, if very controversial, interpretation of the government's power of "eminent domain," or the power of the government to take land from property owners.

The power of eminent domain is granted to governmental bodies -- federal, state and local -- by the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, under the simple phrase, ", nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." In simple terms, the government can take privately owned land, as long as the land will be used by the public and the owner is paid a fair price for the land, what the amendment calls, "just compensation."

Before Kelo v. City of New London, cities typically exercised their power of eminent domain to acquire property for facilities clearly intended for use by the public, like schools, freeways or bridges. While such eminent domain actions are often viewed as distasteful, they are generally accepted because of their overall benefit to the public.

The Western Sudanese mallam is now confusing Fed Govt taking of land for building schools, museums and roads with Fed Govt stealing land to profit from the resources beneath.

gadogado:

In its 5-4 decision in the case of Kelo v. City of New London, the U.S. Supreme Court issued an important, if very controversial, interpretation of the government's power of "eminent domain," or the power of the government to take land from property owners.

The power of eminent domain is granted to governmental bodies -- federal, state and local -- by the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, under the simple phrase, ", nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." In simple terms, the government can take privately owned land, as long as the land will be used by the public and the owner is paid a fair price for the land, what the amendment calls, "just compensation."

Before Kelo v. City of New London, cities typically exercised their power of eminent domain to acquire property for facilities clearly intended for use by the public, like schools, freeways or bridges. While such eminent domain actions are often viewed as distasteful, they are generally accepted because of their overall benefit to the public.

Eminent domain
Show them what you got gadogado.
Eminent domain like" because of the interest of the government , the people therefore take over these abondoned properties, sorry the whole city of PH."

Solomon, in the US, all offshore oil belongs exclusively to the federal government. onshore oil belongs to private individuals, private businesses lease land and mineral rights from the owner of the land where minerals are found, the oil company then pays a royalty of 12.5% to the individual who owns this land, they then pay state as well as federal taxes on their profits. In other words, private businesses practically control the oil industry not the state govt nor the fed as far as onshore in concerned, to drill any oil in the US, anywhere in the US, a company is subject to federal regulations as well as federal licensing.

Wrong again all offshore oil-fields dont belong the federal government, all shallow offshore fields are controlled by the littoral states while only the deep offshore fields are controlled by the Federal govt. So my question to u is that which part of the business has the FGN allowed the individuals in ND and ND states to control like it is being parctised in the US?
See the attachment for the control areas of individuals, states and federal govts around d GoM

See attached for the oil-field control around the GoM

Justice Michael Ekundayo Ogundare, delivering the opinion for the majority, held that the southern boundaries of the littoral States of Nigeria are the sea, meaning the seaward point of the states’ land territory is the low-water mark or the limit of their internal waters toward the sea. Ogundare bases his conclusion first on Common Law, which he said provides that the "seashore…belongs to the Crown," meaning national territory. The Justice further cites Hales as stating that ""The shore is that ground that is between the ordinary high-water and low-water mark. Thus both prima facie and of common right belong to the King, both in the shore of the sea, and the shore of the arms of the sea."

The Court traced the geo-political history of the regions now consisting of the littoral states to support its holding. Justice Ogundare said the coastal states were created out of the old Western, Mid West and Eastern Regions all of whose southern boundary was the sea. He says it goes without saying that the states’ southern or seaward boundary was therefore the sea, citing Section II of the Nigeria Protectorate Order in Council 1922 and the Colony of Niger Order in Council, 1913. The Justice said if the boundary of the old regions was the "sea," it is logical that the states’ boundary cannot go beyond the sea.

That was the majority opinion of the Nigerian supreme court when selfish Niger Deltans wanted to claim derivation on even the oil deep in the ocean.

gadogado:

That was the majority opinion of the Nigerian supreme court when selfish Niger Deltans wanted to claim derivation on even the oil deep in the ocean.

Selfish "Niger Deltans?" Now thats rich!
What happened to the groundnut pyramids and why? Who is really selfish?

How far does your state go underground? Did the FG ever own the roots of your groundnut crop, because the state stops at the surface?
One could come up with enough ridiculous positions, but hey! maybe we need to look into this seriously, so that in the future we might sieze everything below the surface in your state; things like underground water and rocks will belong to FG. How does that sound?

We might even take this offshore thing a bit more seriously and apply it to inland lakes and rivers, therefore festivals like Argungu will become illegal and anyone caught fishing anywhere in the country will be jailed or something. Sound clever?

That was the majority opinion of the Nigerian supreme court when selfish Niger Deltans wanted to claim derivation on even the oil deep in the ocean.

As I have been advising u they have d right to be selfish if they want to. And what stop u and your people from harnessing resources from your vicinity and stop relying on resources from others for.

They have gotten 10% form 3% and presently on 13%. They will keep fighting until they get 100% for what is theirs in the first place and there is nothing U and I can do about it.

Simple antidote is to develop the economic base of your state or face d consequences in the future

Rubbish, you dont know what you're talking about? This resource we call oil belongs to all Nigerians. so I as a Nigerian citizen have a stake in all natural resources found anywhere in Nigerian territory not just oil but cocoa as well. At this point in time, oil happens to be valuable, tomorrow, it could be a resource in the north that becomes valuable. And all Nigerians will have an interest in the new found value of the resources. It is because of oil that the country left the other sectors of the economy to deteriorate so it was national shift. At that time (when petro dollars started pouring in) no one said that it was the exclusive preserve of ND, ND didn't even exist, no one said that the north should be excluded from oil revenue. Its now that all of a sudden, you're claiming only you should have access to the oil revenue. Like I said, if you want to keep all the oil, then declare independence. But as a country, all the resources, oil and others belongs to the entirety of the Nigerian citizenry.

@beaf, I actually agree with most of the issues you raised.

@ gadogado

Rubbish, you dont know what you're talking about? This resource we call oil belongs to all Nigerians. so I as a Nigerian citizen have a stake in all natural resources found anywhere in Nigerian territory not just oil but cocoa as well. At this point in time, oil happens to be valuable, tomorrow, it could be a resource in the north that becomes valuable. And all Nigerians will have an interest in the new found value of the resources. It is because of oil that the country left the other sectors of the economy to deteriorate so it was national shift. At that time (when petro dollars started pouring in) no one said that it was the exclusive preserve of ND, ND didn't even exist, no one said that the north should be excluded from oil revenue. Its now that all of a sudden, you're claiming only you should have access to the oil revenue. Like I said, if you want to keep all the oil, then declare independence. But as a country, all the resources, oil and others belongs to the entirety of the Nigerian citizenry.

Wen your eye go clear it will b too late for u and yor people. Develop or starve

gadogado:

Rubbish, you dont know what you're talking about? This resource we call oil belongs to all Nigerians. so I as a Nigerian citizen have a stake in all natural resources found anywhere in Nigerian territory not just oil but cocoa as well. At this point in time, oil happens to be valuable, tomorrow, it could be a resource in the north that becomes valuable. And all Nigerians will have an interest in the new found value of the resources. It is because of oil that the country left the other sectors of the economy to deteriorate so it was national shift. At that time (when petro dollars started pouring in) no one said that it was the exclusive preserve of ND, ND didn't even exist, no one said that the north should be excluded from oil revenue. Its now that all of a sudden, you're claiming only you should have access to the oil revenue. Like I said, if you want to keep all the oil, then declare independence. But as a country, all the resources, oil and others belongs to the entirety of the Nigerian citizenry.

Good job, very good job
Ojukwu couldn't even make as good and forceful and arguement. If he did, maybe Chief Clark and Adaka Boro might have listened.

Solomon227:

@ gadogado
Wen your eye go clear it will b too late for u and yor people. Develop or starve

Common now, the laws of nature states that water naturally flows downwards.
If you can come down south and drain as much oil as you want, and without any meaningful opposition from a people you had successfully pitted against each other, why in this World would go back to soiling your well manicured finger nails growing groundnuts?

Common now, the laws of nature states that water naturally flows downwards.
If you can come down south and drain as much oil as you want, and without any meaningful opposition from a people you had successfully pitted against each other, why in this World would go back to soiling your well manicured finger nails growing groundnuts?

Ahhh u must remember dat d only permanent thing in diz life is change. Wen hunger start knocking on yor door nobody wil teach u b/4 u commot d manicure start tilling and sowing 1000x of groundnuts per day

Solomon227:

Ahhh u must remember dat d only permanent thing in diz life is change. Wen hunger start knocking on yor door nobody wil teach u b/4 u commot d manicure start tilling and sowing 1000x of groundnuts per day

Yeah, you're right about hunger. No hunger as long as you have sown an eternal seed of discord among the people from who land the eeeeaaasssyy oil is milked.

Dokpesi must be out of his senses.He has no integrity to protect because if he do,he won't be supporting the evil man.What does his support has to do with Babangida presidential ambition Babangida personally known he won't be winning at the poll.He just want people to have their shares of his ill gotten wealth.

Yeah, you're right about hunger. No hunger as long as you have sown an eternal seed of discord among the people from who land the eeeeaaasssyy oil is milked

There is nothing eternal in this world. Dont be surprised if IBB walks to halter with Turai or GEJ marrying IBB daughter b/4 election

^^^
True.

See who is talking Dokpesi that can not manage is company well with staff been owned more than 10months salary is coming up to show is face. Both him and IBB will fall down

It's a pity. What people tend to eat blocks their sense of reasoning. Dokpesi has always been a dissapointment.

wales:

See who is talking Dokpesi that can not manage is company well with staff been owned more than 10months salary is coming up to show is face. Both him and IBB will fall down

Apart from ethnicity, one other clog in our wheel to development is unweaving of unecessary sentiments and avoiding issues. @ WALES, with all due respect to u, are u an employer of labour?. The campaign aside take it or leave it, Nigeria will be better of with more Dokpesis. For having d courage to set up a company in Nigeria and thus, employ people, he is better off than most of the rogues who stash stolen money in foreign Lands, Dokpesi should b encouraged!

jabbok:

Apart from ethnicity, one other clog in our wheel to development is unweaving of unecessary sentiments and avoiding issues. @ WALES, with all due respect to u, are u an employer of labour?. The campaign aside take it or leave it, Nigeria will be better of with more Dokpesis. For having d courage to set up a company in Nigeria and thus, employ people, he is better off than most of the rogues who stash stolen money in foreign Lands, Dokpesi should b encouraged!

Who is avoiding issues? Wales who has rightly pointed at some of Dokpesi's fatal flaws? No! It is you who is advocating that we overlook and avoid those Dokpesi's flaws.
Abeg go sidon jare!

Beaf:

Who is avoiding issues? Wales who has rightly pointed at some of Dokpesi's fatal flaws? No! It is you who is advocating that we overlook and avoid those Dokpesi's flaws.
Abeg go sidon jare!

Is Dokpesi now running for president himself?
Why should his so-called fatal flaws be used as an excuse to threaten him? Why can't we just let him express his God-given political options which ever way he chooses?

Say no to lbb.

naijaking1:

Is Dokpesi now running for president himself?
Why should his so-called fatal flaws be used as an excuse to threaten him? Why can't we just let him express his God-given political options which ever way he chooses?

Exactly my thoughts

naijaking1:

Is Dokpesi now running for president himself?
Why should his so-called fatal flaws be used as an excuse to threaten him? Why can't we just let him express his God-given political options which ever way he chooses?

And when did I threaten him?
The man has fatal flaws which include lying. Period.

someone should remind raymond what happened to him during the days of el-rufai.

I cant donate money to revive one media house again, never, not for dump dokpesi

Beaf:

And when did I threaten him?
The man has fatal flaws which include lying. Period.

Let's focus on d presidential candidates.

jabbok:

Let's focus on d presidential candidates.

Dude, this is the title of the topic; "Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By [size=14pt]Dokpesi [/size] (Zoning)."
Why should we talk about presidential candidates when the topic is about the liar called Dokpesi?