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Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by missjo(f): 5:08pm On Oct 09, 2019
EmptyCoconutHead:
I've sent a pm thru. Kindly reply dear.
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I saw the notification, but i can no longer access the mail connected to my account
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Nobody: 5:12pm On Oct 09, 2019
missjo:
Oh dearcheesy
na we we. so no fear
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Cousin9999: 2:04am On Oct 10, 2019
camobri:

all tomboys are lesbians but they mostly live in denial

That's just not true. And a lot of hyper feminine women used to be major tomboys.

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Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Arobake: 2:56am On Oct 10, 2019
Teehaha I like you. You seem to be one of those who know iya Osho more than Osho. You have convinced yourself than you know my thoughts more than I do. You imply that I implied so and so. No, that was not what I implied.
But first, this is the definition of "imply" with example: Impu indicate the truth or existence of (something) by suggestion rather than explicit reference.
"salesmen who use jargon to imply superior knowledge"
See, it does not mean it is true that the salesmen have superior knowledge even if they "implied" same.

Secondly, with permission of 3 of the 5 individuals concerned, I will tell you what I meant by using "mostly". I did not want to be explicit initially because the 5 individuals had confided in me.

3 gays and 2 lesbians. 2 are friends of mine, 2 are colleagues and 1 of them was my student. Each and everyone of them is still undergoing therapy and being used in on-going experments to see if it is possible for them to alter their sexuality. Each one of them claims that he/she "became gays and lesbians" because they were sexually abused multiple times by people of their gender when they were in foster homes.

Sadly, in those days, enough due diligence weren't carried out before babies and toddlers were placed with foster parents. (Sadly, I personally, still believe that enough due diligence isnt being done, but that is story for another day.)

So, once again, quit putting words in my mouth that I did not say. Also quit attempting to get into my head, you can not. And finally, tomboyishness and LGBTs should Not be discussed in the same breath. They are not the same at all. At all.



Kayceenaz:

By using "mostly," you imply there are other factors besides "being born that way" which could trigger a transgender switch. That is where tomness and external influences such as sexual abuse, peer orientation, emotional heartbreak, misogyny/misandry, and so on, come in. Although not every tomboy/tomgirl turns a transgender (a point I have reiterated and you've misunderstood, too), my contention is the probability is high due to the growing comfort associated with assuming behaviours of the opposite gender. Such could (not must) lead to the transgender decision, especially when the resources to effect it are reachable.

Clearly, my position gives room for tomboy/tomgirls to significantly quit the personality as time passes, and advises the "shedding off" can be made earlier for harmony with the self. The fact tomness can be outgrown suggests it doesn't constitute the person's essence, making it extrinsic rather than intrinsic.
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Arobake: 3:14am On Oct 10, 2019
OMGoodness!! ���� Y-o-u are awesome.
And one of the most maddening things is because you are intelligent, smart or what they call "strong", they you are "obirin bi okunrin" i.e a woman like a man. Hell no! I am not a woman like a man. "Strongness", smartness etc isnt the franchise of any gender. I am a w-o-m-a-n and despite all the challenges, I am very happy and very proud to be one. Wouldn't swap it for 10 million pounds.

NiCurious:
Beyond just plain ENJOYING playing football with the guys?

[assuming that tomboys = girls who like to dress boyishly and play "boy" games with the boys]

Another reason you might find a girl acting tomboyish, is when she perceives that only males are respected and compensated for their contributions. She knows how people tend to be blinded by stereotypes, and prescribe for other people how they "should" behave, irrespective of their talents and preferences. If by birth she is "supposed to" sit on the sidelines, wear pink dresses and play with dolls, and follow after boys--in spite of the fact that she has much of value to contribute and which would be valued if she were male--she might reject a feminine appearance to make others take notice of herself for herself, to be heard, and fully express herself and her gifts, and be herself.

A tomboy can be a strong individual reacting to social norms that are too narrow and short-sighted. She is finding another way to be herself, when the first path is closed to her.

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Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by EmptyCoconutHead(m): 3:46am On Oct 10, 2019
missjo:

I saw the notification, but i can no longer access the mail connected to my account
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Nobody: 5:53am On Oct 10, 2019
Cousin9999:


That's just not true. And a lot of hyper feminine women used to be major tomboys.
don't tell me what I know!! all tomboys lowkey wants to smash a woman, the feeling is always there
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Cousin9999: 6:37am On Oct 10, 2019
camobri:

don't tell me what I know!! all tomboys lowkey wants to smash a woman, the feeling is always there

You're projecting ignorance and fear onto someone who thinks/lives different from you.

You don't understand why they don't conform (ignorant), and you consider them similar to males (ignorant). You think they're as oversexed as males (ignorant), and you assume they have predatory thoughts (ignorant).

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Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Nobody: 6:42am On Oct 10, 2019
Cousin9999:


You're projecting ignorance and fear onto someone who thinks/lives different from you.

You don't understand why they don't conform (ignorant), and you consider them similar to males (ignorant). You think they're as oversexed as males (ignorant), and you assume they have predatory thoughts (ignorant).
I'm telling you what I know and not Some psycho analytical jargons.. all tomoys are lesbians, not all lesbians are tomboys. every tomboy gon tell u she hav d feelings, d ones in denial would deny it but deeeep within, dey want it
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by missjo(f): 6:43am On Oct 10, 2019
EmptyCoconutHead:
okay sorry about that.
I'll drop my WhatsApp digits but promise me you'll quickly censor it off okay?
Thanks
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Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by EmptyCoconutHead(m): 7:12am On Oct 10, 2019
missjo:

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thanks dear as I'll be anticipating your soonest response on WhatsApp.
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Cousin9999: 7:37am On Oct 10, 2019
camobri:

I'm telling you what I know and not Some psycho analytical jargons.. all tomoys are lesbians, not all lesbians are tomboys. every tomboy gon tell u she hav d feelings, d ones in denial would deny it but deeeep within, dey want it

lol Sure, troll.
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Nobody: 8:48am On Oct 10, 2019
Cousin9999:

lol Sure, troll.
that's d truth babe
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by EmptyCoconutHead(m): 8:01pm On Oct 10, 2019
missjo:

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you've still not added...
Why
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by tck2000(m): 6:59pm On Oct 12, 2019
Hnmm
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Kayceenaz(m): 10:14pm On Oct 12, 2019
tck2000:
Hnmm
Is that really all you have to say?
Re: Why Turning A Tomboy Or Tomgirl Is Self-Conflicting by Nobilitygem: 8:39am On Feb 10, 2020
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missjo:
Being a tomboy or tomgirl has no correlation with being transgender.
Tomness is exhibited in purely physical ways like in subtle dressing, sports, talking style. Trans is psychological and involves a total transformation across genders. What i mean is, a tomboy is still a girl and can choose to act girly when they have to,they just prefer behaving as a boy. A trans will stick to their new gender and does not make switches.

I take this personally cos i am a tommy myself,so take it from me and be careful about mistaking toms for trans people

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