Rogo:

because there is nothing in their brain and the women are afraid because there are all dead men

simmy:

I'm just stating facts. im not making any conclusions. Xtians in the name of xtianity have killed more people and shed more blood than ANY other religion in the world. and don't go 'Xtianity doesnt preach violence' line, because most religions (including Islam) does not preach violence (at least directly), The old testament is full of gory details of killings of gentile men women and children and xtians extrapolated these killings to their own lifetimes.

simmy:

All im saying is before u accuse Islam of being bloodthirsty (it actually is) consider the bloodthirstiness of at least some people who professed to be membersof your religion in the past. MAN! the catholic church alone has the blood of millions and millions and millions of men, women and children on its hands which will never wash off; protestants have been almost as bad!

sirgai:

what amazing is the many xtians responding to a muslim oriented post. is the original intending to find out why and understand or has already made up his mind and just wanted to ridicule islam?

sirgai:

islam like many other faith has been practised wrongly by people and on hadiths there are so many untrue ones out there.

sirgai:

to understand better google up understanding islam and learn.

simmy:

Heretics have been burnt at the stake in their millions

simmy:

don't get me wrong i actually beleive that fundamentalists are a pain in the neck and i also realise that islam seems to be prone to violence breeding; but most religions (including islam) do not directly preach violence and we should not be unfair to muslims in our horror, shock, unbeleif and grief at what some of the proponents of their faith have done or intend to do

simmy:

Let me just state once and for all that i find the attitude of many xtians appalling and unxtianlike and im actually vewry dissponted.
Many xtians go out of their way to ridicule adherents of other religions without paying attention to the faults of their own religion (if you cna call them faults, )

simmy:

My personal belief (notice the word, personal) is that Islamic theology is poorly developed (at least in comaprision to xtianity0 and so it is easy to pick holes in it.

simmy:

The islamic apparent disregard for women was common to middle Easterners in those days and extended to the early Xtians. (if u don't believe me, try and re-read Paul's exhortation to women to cover their hair and shut up in church. It;s obvious that Paul had so high a regard for women that he told them all to shut up in church. Women should be seen not heard!!!! Thats respect alright, !

That staement was borne out of Paul's personal predjudices against women.

simmy:

the good Lord revealed that women should SHUT UP IN CHURCHES and not speak
Barry ure way way too smart to actually believe that. That staement was borne out of Paul's personal predjudices against women.

simmy:

Oh barry
the good Lord revealed that women should SHUT UP IN CHURCHES and not speak
Barry ure way way too smart to actually believe that. That staement was borne out of Paul's personal predjudices against women.
I really neednt argue with you Barry if you do not know that a horrendous, appalling and awe-inspiring number of people were burnt at the stake for religious reasons in the middle ages,. it just shows that ure ignorant (pardon me , couldnt find a less harsh word).
It was aginst the law in those days to be anything but a Christian in the West. Even Xtians who had opposing or contradicitry view to the church were forced to retract their blasphemous statements or burnt at the stake. Ever heard of the spanish inquisiton?Do u think they were playing games?? Those people killed in the name of the Lord and they were the most bloodthirsty set of vermins u ever saw. the crusades!!!? Do u know how many millions were sensellesly butchered in the name of saving the holy land from the infidels (i.e Islamists, {which they failed to do, the muslims finally took control of the holy land}actually the muslims also butchered just as many xtians as well), and my friend Barry says im making wild statements!!!

(laughs in chinese and shakes his head despondently)

Did you say middle ages dear?
This is 2007,so your muslim friends are still trying to catch up?

when will they change?

simmy:

Oh barry
the good Lord revealed that women should SHUT UP IN CHURCHES and not speak
Barry ure way way too smart to actually believe that. That staement was borne out of Paul's personal predjudices against women.
I really neednt argue with you Barry if you do not know that a horrendous, appalling and awe-inspiring number of people were burnt at the stake for religious reasons in the middle ages,. it just shows that ure ignorant (pardon me , couldnt find a less harsh word).
It was aginst the law in those days to be anything but a Christian in the West. Even Xtians who had opposing or contradicitry view to the church were forced to retract their blasphemous statements or burnt at the stake. Ever heard of the spanish inquisiton?Do u think they were playing games?? Those people killed in the name of the Lord and they were the most bloodthirsty set of vermins u ever saw. the crusades!!!? Do u know how many millions were sensellesly butchered in the name of saving the holy land from the infidels (i.e Islamists, {which they failed to do, the muslims finally took control of the holy land}actually the muslims also butchered just as many xtians as well), and my friend Barry says im making wild statements!!!

(laughs in chinese and shakes his head despondently)

davidylan:

The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies

davidylan:

[size=20pt]More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.[/size]

davidylan:


Here are some quick facts…

Sicilian raid, burning churches in Reggio, enslaving monks and raping an abbey of nuns before carrying them into captivity.

simmy:
The spanish inquisition is just one example of the millions of despicable acts commited by xtians in God's name. The ilamist fundamentalists are just following in the xtian brothers footsteps.

simmy:

ok, maybe not millions, maybe a feww hundred thousands, myabe not even a few hundred thousands, mayb tens of thousands, does it matter??

simmy:

Many xtians do not realise how similar their religion is to islam. Both religions share roots, and stem from the same culture, therefore many teachinfg which have cultural roots found their way into both religions.

simmy:

I don't claim to know much about Islam (I actually know nothing!) but ive spoken to many semmingly rational muslims who assure me that ther jihad theory is only relevant in spiritual contexts. Also put it in mind that Mohahmed had to be violent to survive in his days just like the Isrealites had to be violent in other to propagate their culture, way of life and religion.

simmy:

I don't support terrorists and I'm not a muslim; but christians should learn to be a lot more concerned about the sensitivities of some muslims who just want to worship their Allah in peace.

simmy:

For every act of violence carried out by some muslim fundamentalist, there exists about a thousand acts of barbarism carried out in the name of God by some middle age Knight in Europe to someone labelled a Jew, pagan, muslim or savage, the truth cannot be denied by simply refusing to acknowledge it,

davidylan:

another revisionist historian and member of the Committee of Concerned Christians for Allah (CCCA).

1. Perhaps it is your own brand of christianity that is similar to islam. How can christianity and islam "share the same roots" when christianity had been in existence more than 4000 years before the advent of islam? Can a 107yr old man and a 2 yr old share the same mother?


Duh,  your analogy stinks (don't mean to b e rude but it really sucks),,, but to answer your question,  yes! if the mother is 120 years old, ! don't even bother with a reply to this one!!!!LMAO


. How did christianity and islam "stem from the same culture"? What culture?
Christianity started as part of the Jewish culture (Judaism) until Christ came and opened the door of salvation to the gentiles. Islam on the other hand did not exist until the 12th century and is a largely an incorporation of pagan arab culture - a culture that is radically distinct from Jewish culture!

Well,  my bible tells me that Isaac and Ishmael both came from Abraham. Apart from that both Isreali and Arabs are of the same stock,,, i thot it was obvious



It is clear and has been shown several times over on this forum that islam plagiarised several christian teachings in a bid to decieve its followers into believing the false idea that both it and christianity were similar! Several facts prove this:
- the quran WRONGLY claims that Abraham built the kaaba, however NO jewish tradition nor historical facts buttress this false claim.
- The quran claims mary the mother of Jesus was Aaron's sister - however Aaron lived more than 4000 years before Mary was born! An anachronism

i agree with u. so i really don't understand what ure trying to prove. i beleive the writer of the quoran muddled up many details. (apologies to all potential islamists out there), lol


To compare Muhammad's violence with that if the Isrealites is to be economical with the truth! READ your bible right side up! The jews did NOT kill to propagate their religion, culture or way of life! No where in the bible are we told that they went to war to FORCE their enemies to bow down to Jehova!

Come on man! grow up! when the muslims killed for political reasons u tagged them as murderers,  all of a sudden it was okay when the isrealites (and mordern day israelis) did it for the same reasons,  smacks of double standards if u ask me. Tell me when the Israelites were killing the cannanites was it less cruel than when the islamists where on an expansionist scheme in arabia?ok,  i get it! it was ok because God told the Israelites to do it,  and the devil told the muslims to do it. don't get me wrong1 im not saying the israelites in the OT did anythiong wrong,  but neither did the early muslims.


Mordern day Israelis (with the aid of 'God's-own-country') supported by many (Alas ignorant) Xtians kill palestinians every day in Gaza and nobody sees anything wrong. I rep-eat i don't support terrorists and Islamics,  but Xtians should STOP this hypocrisy once and for all. the whole thing is sickening


The usual "christian" deception! Struggling so hard to find something to justify muslim violence. There have been no christian crusades for more than 500 years yet muslims are still murdering thousands every day!

I'm not defending or justifying muslim violence. Its WRONG! and i condem it in the strongest terms,  but xtians who have not sinned should cast the first stone at them. the stones cast at these islamists will no doubt be dripping thick of  the blood of innocent people killed in the past and also innocent palestininas and iraqi's killed everyday in front of all u blind xtians on this blog!!!!! Take Iraq as an example,  how>??// how? can ANYONE!!!!! justify america's invasion of Iraq ( which was with the full support of most American Evangelical Xtians!!!!!!!!)

Christianity which is supposed to be a religion of p-eace is responsible for all the rubbish that is going on in the middle east! Christian fundamentalists insisted on the Israeli state in the middle east after the 2nd world war without taking into consideration the palestinians who had been living there for thousands of years!!! Yes! Xtians who are supposed tpo be their brothrs keepers!

I'm a xtian but i am constantly apalled by the hypocrisy that exists in the xtian world today (in some cases its not hypocrisy but ignorance which is worse) We xtians are SUPPOSED to be the light of this world. We're not supposed to  be competing with the muslims in bringing darkness and sorrow into it,  We seem to be ahead on darkeness point however,

I'm typing this out in a great hurry because im about to leave work,  hopefully i'll find some time to explain to Barry and David (because im sure theyr inherently good,  just ignorant and misguided alas!, ) how terribly bigoted they sound . Remeber most xtians in the West approved of the slave trade and tried to prove by quoting the bible out of context that your fore-fathers were sub-human!