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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 8:57am On Jun 01, 2020
zudozz:


to you maybe..but not to God who searcheth the heart.

That's why you need to search for a wife elsewhere NOT amongst those who don't believe (trust) you regarding the faith you claim! Genesis 24:3
Marriage is a lifetime commitment, that's why Apostle Paul said "marry only in the Lord" meaning those who have the same believe should marry one another, NOT you going to pick a wife amongst those whose beliefs totally contradicts your own!

How do you think it will be easy for both of you to cope during times of distress?

It is for better for worse, so go and find your own wife in the midst of people with whom you share the same FAITH! 1Corinthians 7:39

God bless you Sir! smiley
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 9:00am On Jun 01, 2020
Janosky:


Bros, John 20:28, Thomas NEVER called Jesus our God. RECEIVE SENSE.
John 20 v19-25, Thomas disbelieved Jesus resurrection.
John 20:26-28, Thomas exclamatory surprise shows his acceptance of Jesus resurrection.
John20:29 Jesus says happy are those who have not seen his resurrection,yet believe."

John 20:17. Revelations 3:5,11,12,21.
Jesus says himself is NOT God in heaven.

Bros,Jesus Christ WIPES OUT DUBIOUS Trinitarian attachment to John 20:28.
Greek Theos (God) is a title for man, Jesus,Yahweh and angels. That's no PROOF of Trinity
You rejected Jesus statements & put Thomas exclamatory claim as your doctrine. Nawa ooo grin

Check am well, John 20:28, an exclamation mark dey there.
We know your master is not Jesus Christ.
You simply pay lip service to Jesus. grin

But Isaiah 9:6 called Jesus God....
He wil be called Mighty God

Titus 2:13
while we wait for the blessed hope--the appearing of the glory of [b]our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,[b]

Exclamation mark dey Titus 2:13 too?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 9:05am On Jun 01, 2020
Janosky:



Story for the Dustbin grin grin
You triune pagan deity devotee paying membership fees to gods of men feeding fat on your gullibility,yet you get mouth to Lie LIE against Jehovah's servants.
Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness.
E dey that Bible you hide under your bed.
Go check Isaiah 43:10-12. Acts 3:13. Mark 1:13-15.Revelations 3:5,11-14,21.(ASV)
Deal with it.

grin

Titus 2:13

while we wait for the blessed hope--the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

Are u waiting for your great God and saviour Jesus Christ? Because Paul is waiting for his great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Oh sorry unlike Paul and Isaiah u believe Jesus is not God but Angel Micheal.....u believe Ur governing body over Isaiah and Paul Nd Peter
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 9:07am On Jun 01, 2020
TruthHurts100:


Lie
Were u there, how is it a lie?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by mitchyy(f): 9:07am On Jun 01, 2020
BENARI:


I thought you're trained to endured opposition and persecution. Just a writing word on the internet, you termed it an insult and took to your heels because you have no rebuttal. How will type will never survive the great tribulation when Jws are singled out for thier being the only true religion?
Classic case of a true Jw. Illiterates made literate by a certain theocratic ministry school where they are thought simply to preach thier version of the Goodnews and nothing more. They're never thought to engage in meaningful debate, no, only do the talking to vulnerable people who can be fooled by them; those one they call honest hearted. No wonder they are only able to recruit mostly impoverished and illiterate people in society who in turn are taught to read and right in thier propaganda school. And this is the kind of products they churn out. For heaven's sake, what or where is the insult in the beginning of my response to your lazy invitation for me to come to kingdom hall instead of responding to questions here and make your light shine like Jws always like to brag.
Come to kingdom hall and do what? And sit like a donkey and allow some 8 men from warwick in USA to tell me what is biblical and what is not, and expect unquestioning loyalty from me? God forbid, I'll be loyal to no organisation or group of men but God and Christ.


Then stay loyal to yours and let us to remain loyal to ours. Is that hard to do? cheesy

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 9:16am On Jun 01, 2020
mitchyy:


I do not read replies that begin with insults and demeaning words. I'm not your child. When you are ready to speak maturedly, i will read and reply as i've been replying everyone else

Do u know u r been rude canceling someone's opinion. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. Ur warriors said I'm insultive because I have questioned then into a corner they cannot come out of.

For example @Janosky said after death the spirit (force) returns to Jehovah.

Then I quoted Acts 7:59... Stephen just before death, appealed to Jesus to receive his spirit.

@rozz come n c JW lie o

So I now asked @Janosky, if all spirit returns to Jehovah after death then going by Stephen appeal, it's either Jehovah=Jesus

OR

Your souls sleep doctrine is untrue

Or Stephen doesn't know what he was saying, Jehovah Witness know more than him

So which is it?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 9:23am On Jun 01, 2020
mitchyy:


Then stay loyal to yours and let us to remain loyal to ours. Is that hard to do? cheesy

It's not hard to do o. But scriptural truth must be established. The truth must be brought to the fore.

It's defending ur beliefs really hard to do?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 9:27am On Jun 01, 2020
freshboi88:


Do u know u r been rude canceling someone's opinion. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. Ur warriors said I'm insultive because I have questioned then into a corner they cannot come out of.

For example @Janosky said after death the spirit (force) returns to Jehovah.

Then I quoted Acts 7:59... Stephen just before death, appealed to Jesus to receive his spirit.

@rozz come n c JW lie o

So I now asked @Janosky, if all spirit returns to Jehovah after death then going by Stephen appeal, it's either Jehovah=Jesus

OR

Your souls sleep doctrine is untrue

Or Stephen doesn't know what he was saying, Jehovah Witness know more than him

So which is it?
hmm
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 9:38am On Jun 01, 2020
1. Does Jesus speak divergently from God?. That is does Jesus speak contrary to what God will have said?.

2. Jesus commanded us to observe the Holy communion. But Jehovah witnesses dispise it. Why?.

3. Watch Tower said Jesus came back to earth in the spirit in 1914, contrary to what Jesus Christ said about the matter. So when Jesus came in 1914 according to you people, where did he enter and where is he now?.

4. You people said that spirit and soul as rational entities do not exist, and that spirit is just an active force. Now, can a mere active force be rational, be emotional, speak and also be referred to as 'He'.

5. It's true that Jesus died and rose again. But when He rose again, in what state did He rise, bodily or spiritually?.

6. Who is Jesus Christ?. Is He angel Micheal or not?.

7. By what means and are we saved?. Grace or works?.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 9:39am On Jun 01, 2020
Question them people, they will abandon thread
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 9:40am On Jun 01, 2020
mitchyy:


Then stay loyal to yours and let us to remain loyal to ours. Is that hard to do? cheesy

My brother, these people have become restless! smiley

From 1919 till today Jesus and the angels have been doing a great work by separating obedient descendants of Adam from rebellious humans and bringing them together under one umbrella! Matthew 13:39

Of course all these people belongs to one religious group or another, and they are obeying whatever rule of conduct their leaders impose on them,

©Some will always cover their hairs.
©Some must not take alcoholic beverages
©Some must not use makeups
©Some must put on white garments
©Some must not wear shoes
©Some must not sleep at night.
©Some must not use jewelries.
©Some (females) must not wear trousers
©Some must use candles during prayers

All of them knew that all these settings are the discretion of their different GOs, but they're OK with it.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses who also live by the standards of their own group is the problem to all of them!

WHY?

Because all eyes are fixed on the one and only group standing on mouth ZION! Micah 4:1 compare to Matthew 5:13-16 smiley
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by BENARI: 9:43am On Jun 01, 2020
mitchyy:


Then stay loyal to yours and let us to remain loyal to ours. Is that hard to do? cheesy


My loyalty lies with Jehovah and Jesus not men who keep changing thier doctrines and predictions in the name of new light. The generation of 1914 that will never pass away for example, kept changing and changing, 6 times, all in the name of new light. And when it became obvious they had failed, they came up with another ridiculous new light in the name of "overlapping generation", supporting it with one cherrypicked scripture they found convenient. When this one fails too, they'll come up with another new light, and you'll never stop to think and ask, what in the world is going on.

Before you decide to be loyal to men who claim they were appointed in 1919, when clearly in 1919 it was a one man show by Rutherford, read this scripture, and then reconcile it with all the failed governing body predictions over the years including the famous 1975 besides others. Rd Deuteronomy 18:20-22.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by paltielx: 9:43am On Jun 01, 2020
JorgedeToledo:

No
They only read the bible and interpret it as dictated by their governing body.
They dare not question the governing body as doing so will be questioning Jehovah.
That's why it's a cult.
Cult that encourages their member to seek peace, do good and help others?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 9:48am On Jun 01, 2020
Matthew 10:25 smiley
paltielx:
Cult that encourages their member to seek peace, do good and help others?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by femicyrus(m): 9:48am On Jun 01, 2020
luap1990:
Then there's no need for telling those who have no time to read. Ahhh
do it look like I give a fu*k about it.?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 10:31am On Jun 01, 2020
chatinent:

Could you tell me what ways of theirs you dislike?
their 'i kmw it all" philosophy makes them belive every other religions are false ones except theirs. they never entertain other people religious views and conversations while they expect you to entertain theirs. they neuer stop misinterpreteing parts of the bible to suit their own doctrine and beliefs.the height of hypocrisy

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Wierdceo: 10:58am On Jun 01, 2020
jeff1993:
I remember when I was in Ss3 ... I had this beautiful class mate of mine called Uchechi ...she was a very funny and lively girl and she was a Witness.

One fateful day she had an accident on her way to write NECO exam .... She lost a lot of blood and was the hospital requested for blood transfusion but the parents refused ... Everyday we went to the hospital we literally watched our classmate tether on the brink of death just because of a stupid manmade ideology.

Our principal had to involve social service authorities from the local govt and when they intervened, they took over the case and called the senior brother who was in another state to come and donate blood since the parents were adamant.

That was how Uchechi's life was saved but the unity of their family was never saved because she quitted the church when she went to Uni and her parents kind of partially disowned her.
I know this is not my concyn and am not in any way related to that girl but eh, fhuck her parents and their stupid ideology.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Timalt: 11:26am On Jun 01, 2020
mitchyy:


I do not read replies that begin with insults and demeaning words. I'm not your child. When you are ready to speak maturedly, i will read and reply as i've been replying everyone else
Where did he insult you?

Why do you like to dish what you can't take? You have been asking people to examine articles on your website and think for themselves, why not do the same and check out www.jwfacts.com? After all of you have the truth, you should fear nothing. The truth fears no scrutiny.

He said your governing body member testified in the Australian royal commission case number 29 and he said it would be presumptuous to say the governing body are the only channel jehovah is using. That is a lie as you well know. Infact he went further to give some false and misleading testimonies that you know is false when you read the organized to do Jehova book and the shepherd book (the elders book which you will never read because you are a woman in jw land. Infact you may not even know it exist)

Here's evidence of Geoffrey Jacksons Testimony :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erWV8YnTFto

All throughout your publications it is stated clearly that the governing body (faithful and discreet slave) is the only channel by which you get spiritual food and directions.. Infact in 2017 the Watchtower said that you should follow all directions from them even when it doesn't seem logical from a strategic point of view. So in a nutshell, follow the direction even if it makes no sense to you and may as well lead to your death.

My own is I want you to answer these questions if you may.

1) What is the scriptural and emperical evidence that your organization was chosen by Jesus in 1919?

2) since you don't accept blood because the Bible says abstain from "whole blood" and "blood components" (red, white blood cells, plasma and platelets) why then can you accept blood fractions, like haemoglobin which is more than 90% red blood cells? And hope you know blood fractions are gotten from stored blood of other donors? What is the scriptural basis for accepting blood fractions?

3) since your publication says this : “No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.” Awake! 2009 Jul p.29 why does your religion practice the exact opposite by destroying families when a family member decides he no longer wishes to be a part of your organization?

Now before you argue that your religion does not divide families? See another receipt I have
“Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail.” Watchtower Study Edition 2013 Jan 15 p.16

I have some more critical thinking questions after you answer these for all of us to see.

Thank you.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by chival(f): 11:27am On Jun 01, 2020
chatinent:

Wow. What you narrated could be a mental disorder. How do I know? Because it's not what Speaking In Tongues entails. First Century Christians used the gift to preach God's Kingdom.

Mental disorder? Really? Okay, that gave me a good laugh. Dont even know how to address this promulgation of yours so I'll just let it slide.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Arkmanbuddy(m): 11:39am On Jun 01, 2020
Narijoel:

Okay, we have heard you, churchgoers really need to hear this more. They are mostly affected.

Who told you I don't go to church?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 11:41am On Jun 01, 2020
BENARI:



My loyalty lies with Jehovah and Jesus not men who keep changing thier doctrines and predictions in the name of new light. The generation of 1914 that will never pass away for example, kept changing and changing, 6 times, all in the name of new light. And when it became obvious they had failed, they came up with another ridiculous new light in the name of "overlapping generation", supporting it with one cherrypicked scripture they found convenient. When this one fails too, they'll come up with another new light, and you'll never stop to think and ask, what in the world is going on.

Before you decide to be loyal to men who claim they were appointed in 1919, when clearly in 1919 it was a one man show by Rutherford, read this scripture, and then reconcile it with all the failed governing body predictions over the years including the famous 1975 besides others. Rd Deuteronomy 18:20-22.


Why are wasting ur time with @ mitchyy with all the scripture here that shows that their doctrine is flawed when compared with biblical truth, she will not accept.

So even if Jesus comes and says I am God!!!! As well as JW is fake, she and other indoctrinated ones like @Janosky will still not agree.

They will tell him that they witness to Jehovah not him, that he is a god just like them. They will quote scripture for him and say to Jesus...Ur Father, said ye are gods. So they would trash him.

Little do they know that their salvation is not hinged on doing door to door sharing of magazine but believing in our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by explosiveskull(m): 11:45am On Jun 01, 2020
Janosky:


John 4:34, Whose work did Jesus Christ come to do on earth?
Mark 1:13-15. John 7;16. Whose gospel and message did Jesus Christ preach and teach?

1 Corinthians 3:23, who does Jesus Christ belongs to?

Revelations 3:5,12. 2 Peter 3:13 whose reward will Jesus Christ receive and also who owns the reward given to faithful servants of Jehovah ?

John 17:3, John 20:17 is the Servant more important than His Boss in heaven and earth ?
Please who said this in this passage and to who and for what?

Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Timalt: 11:49am On Jun 01, 2020
As I have shown to the friends on this forum in another thread with receipts receipts and more receipts grin the jehovah's witnesses teach that all of you would die at armageddon unless you convert to becoming one of Jehovah's witnesses.

Think about it, 8 billion + population to be toast like Barbecue while only 8 million + jehovah's witnesses, infact it will be far less than 8 million because there are many in their ranks that would not survive because of their unfaithfulness and their practice of secret sin, living a double life and unconfessed sins. Believe me when I tell you that a good number of jehovah's witnesses here have sins they have not reported cheesy grin

Better go and report or else no survival of armageddon for you. The sins ranges from many who are viewing pornography, some are dating an unbeliever, some have used tobacco or weed at some point in their lives, some have committed porneia.

Jehovah's witnesses, notice ị used porneia. It is because it includes those of you who have fondled the breást or buttocks of another person, those who have been engaged in mutual maturbation, those who have received lap dance or given it, those who have gone to clubs (wild parties grin), those who have engaged in extreme petting, those who have done oral and anal sex. And those who have had fornication or adultery. cheesy

And the most clear, most prominent sin you find among the Jehovahs witnesses ranks is dishonesty. grin
All of you who continue to write fake hours and inflate your return visits and Bible studies in your report slips, better go and report o grin grin
Unless you don't want to survive Armageddon.

Then there are those who have taken money from the contribution envelope they used to carry around to eat. Even if you replaced the money, you have stolen from Jehovah, please go and meet the elders.

Back to what I was saying cheesy Jehovahs witnesses that will survive will not reach 8 million because according to them, if you don't confess of your serious sins no matter how long ago it happened, you are a goner grin


So dear Christians and even Muslims reading this, you have no chance of survival into their new world unless you were lucky to be born in their religion (born ins account for over 85% of their number). How convenient that for you to survive you have to belong to an American high control group led by 8 men or you die. Bravo!!! Nice logic jw's. Nice one.

Jw's go and confess ọ grin Armageddon is near. grin
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 11:49am On Jun 01, 2020
Timalt:

Where did he insult you?

Why do you like to dish what you can't take? You have been asking people to examine articles on your website and think for themselves, why not do the same and check out www.jwfacts.com? After all of you have the truth, you should fear nothing. The truth fears no scrutiny.

He said your governing body member testified in the Australian royal commission case number 29 and he said it would be presumptuous to say the governing body are the only channel jehovah is using. That is a lie as you well know. Infact he went further to give some false and misleading testimonies that you know is false when you read the organized to do Jehova book and the shepherd book (the elders book which you will never read because you are a woman in jw land. Infact you may not even know it exist)

Here's evidence of Geoffrey Jacksons Testimony :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erWV8YnTFto

All throughout your publications it is stated clearly that the governing body (faithful and discreet slave) is the only channel by which you get spiritual food and directions.. Infact in 2017 the Watchtower said that you should follow all directions from them even when it doesn't seem logical from a strategic point of view. So in a nutshell, follow the direction even if it makes no sense to you and may as well lead to your death.

My own is I want you to answer these questions if you may.

1) What is the scriptural and emperical evidence that your organization was chosen by Jesus in 1919?

2) since you don't accept blood because the Bible says abstain from "whole blood" and "blood components" (red, white blood cells, plasma and platelets) why then can you accept blood fractions, like haemoglobin which is more than 90% red blood cells? And hope you know blood fractions are gotten from stored blood of other donors? What is the scriptural basis for accepting blood fractions?

3) since your publication says this : “No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.” Awake! 2009 Jul p.29 why does your religion practice the exact opposite by destroying families when a family member decides he no longer wishes to be a part of your organization?

Now before you argue that your religion does not divide families? See another receipt I have
“Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail.” Watchtower Study Edition 2013 Jan 15 p.16

I have some more critical thinking questions after you answer these for all of us to see.

Thank you.

Thank you.....mitchyy will flee from u like a plague. @rozz come and see o. Shey u aid u r beginning to reason with JWs.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 11:56am On Jun 01, 2020
Timalt:
As I have shown to the friends on this forum in another thread with receipts receipts and more receipts grin the jehovah's witnesses teach that all of you would die at armageddon unless you convert to becoming one of Jehovah's witnesses.

Think about it, 8 billion + population to be toast like Barbecue while only 8 million + jehovah's witnesses, infact it will be far less than 8 million because there are many in their ranks that would not survive because of their unfaithfulness and their practice of secret sin, living a double life and unconfessed sins. Believe me when I tell you that a good number of jehovah's witnesses here have sins they have not reported cheesy grin

Better go and report or else no survival of armageddon for you. The sins ranges from many who are viewing pornography, some are dating an unbeliever, some have used tobacco or weed at some point in their lives, some have committed porneia.

Jehovah's witnesses, notice ị used porneia. It is because it includes those of you who have fondled the breást or buttocks of another person, those who have been engaged in mutual maturbation, those who have received lap dance or given it, those who have gone to clubs (wild parties grin), those who have engaged in extreme petting, those who have done oral and anal sex. And those who have had fornication or adultery. cheesy

And the most clear, most prominent sin you find among the Jehovahs witnesses ranks is dishonesty. grin
All of you who continue to write fake hours and inflate your return visits and Bible studies in your report slips, better go and report o grin grin
Unless you don't want to survive Armageddon.

Then there are those who have taken money from the contribution envelope they used to carry around to eat. Even if you replaced the money, you have stolen from Jehovah, please go and meet the elders.

Back to what I was saying cheesy Jehovahs witnesses that will survive will not reach 8 million because according to them, if you don't confess of your serious sins no matter how long ago it happened, you are a goner grin


So dear Christians and even Muslims reading this, you have no chance of survival into their new world unless you were lucky to be born in their religion (born ins account for over 85% of their number). How convenient that for you to survive you have to belong to an American high control group led by 8 men or you die. Bravo!!! Nice logic jw's. Nice one.

Jw's go and confess ọ grin Armageddon is near. grin

Good write up. Let me call them out to respond to this

@Janosky @Maximus69 @Jozzy4 @CANTICLES @oneJ @Barristter07 @Peacefullove @1×2×3 @mitchyy

Make Una come o....den don finish Una for this thread

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by chatinent: 11:58am On Jun 01, 2020
Collinsaik:
their 'i kmw it all" philosophy makes them belive every other religions are false ones except theirs. they never entertain other people religious views and conversations while they expect you to entertain theirs. they neuer stop misinterpreteing parts of the bible to suit their own doctrine and beliefs.the height of hypocrisy
This is untrue. We are taught to have listening ears. Try meet a JW in reality. Secondly, we are proud of our religion, you can also be proud of yours!
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 12:06pm On Jun 01, 2020
Maximus69:


My brother, these people have become restless! smiley

From 1919 till today Jesus and the angels have been doing a great work by separating obedient descendants of Adam from rebellious humans and bringing them together under one umbrella! Matthew 13:39

Of course all these people belongs to one religious group or another, and they are obeying whatever rule of conduct their leaders impose on them,

©Some will always cover their hairs.
©Some must not take alcoholic beverages
©Some must not use makeups
©Some must put on white garments
©Some must not wear shoes
©Some must not sleep at night.
©Some must not use jewelries.
©Some (females) must not wear trousers
©Some must use candles during prayers

All of them knew that all these settings are the discretion of their different GOs, but they're OK with it.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses who also live by the standards of their own group is the problem to all of them!

WHY?

Because all eyes are fixed on the one and only group standing on mouth ZION! Micah 4:1 compare to Matthew 5:13-16 smiley


So many people have been asking questions here...did they insult u too....I wonder why u have no answer to their questions
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by dokie: 12:07pm On Jun 01, 2020
meemee:
Hmmmm so if for any reason you are asked not to take alcohol but you decide to put it into your body through intravenous procedure so it means you have not consumed it. Okay try take in a dozen bottles of dry gin through intravenous procedure to see if you can prove your point that taking in anything through intravenous procedure means not consuming it.

You need to understand that behind every law made by God, there is a spirit. In simple terms when God gives a law, he has an intention, something he wishes to achieve in human conduct which will ultimately be for the good of mankind.

Coming to your analogy on alcohol, it would interest you to note that none of the denominations that see alcohol consumption as sinful finds anything wrong with using it as a hand sanitizer. So its forbidden in one circumstance and permitted in another. Why? The spirit behind their law of non consumption.

Again cocaine consumption is forbidden by state and faith organisations alike. But cocaine is an anesthetic which is used (consumed) in certain medical conditions. Once again forbidden in one circumstance permitted in another. Why? The spirit behind the law.

When you come to terms with this concept, it wouldn't be difficult for you to understand why this JW teaching is senseless.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by freshboi88: 12:10pm On Jun 01, 2020
Collinsaik:
their 'i kmw it all" philosophy makes them belive every other religions are false ones except theirs. they never entertain other people religious views and conversations while they expect you to entertain theirs. they neuer stop misinterpreteing parts of the bible to suit their own doctrine and beliefs.the height of hypocrisy

@ rozz can u see people know them for who they really are. Scripture misinterpreters. @ Janosky cannot answer my question on Stephen asking Jesus to receive his spirit.

God is a God of the living. Right. So when God says I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If they are dead in the grave awaiting resurrection then God is not a God of the living.

Abi nor be so?........@Janosky get brain, he nor fit use am

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 12:15pm On Jun 01, 2020
[quote author=freshboi88 post=90192023]

@ rozz can u see people know them for who they really are. Scripture misinterpreters. @ Janosky cannot answer my question on Stephen asking Jesus to receive his spirit.

God is a God of the living. Right. So when God says I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If they are dead in the grave awaiting resurrection then God is not a God of the living.

Abi nor be so?........@Janosky get brain, he nor fit use am.funny
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by popovich: 12:42pm On Jun 01, 2020
Abeg i need your number!

Let me take you on again on point 5

This is fact - the bible forbids the eating of blood not blood transfusion. It warns against the eating of blood in the ritual where animals serves as food.

The Genesis account (Ge 9:1-7) of Noah law warned against the eating of the animals with its blood. The blood is poured out in acknowledgement that the life thus sacrificed (for food) was taken by divine permission, not by natural right. This shows respect for animal life during the ritual of slaughter. In its strict Hebrew wording, it means that an "animal should not have flesh torn off it for food, whilst the animal is still alive." It means that out of respect for the life of an animal, it was to be bled when being killed for food; a command against eating things strangled.

The passages in the old testament prohibited against the eating of flesh with its blood - a situation where a man kills the victim and then uses the blood without returning (pour out) it to God, who alone has the right to take life. (Compare Le 7:26, 17:11; 17:13)

Blood transfusions, is not the result of the killing of either animals or humans, the blood comes from a living donor who continues to live. Rather than representing death (as those referred in the bible), such blood is employed for the very opposite purpose, namely, preservation of life.

Now, Blood is a symbol of life, just a symbol. The real thing is life. Is then morally acceptable you hold on to a symbol and allow the real thing which is life to waste away? Does does it show respect for life that allow life to waste away when they are ways in which the said life can be saved?

Let me illustrate, the wedding ring is a symbol of a marriage between two people. When face with a life or dead situation, is it moral for a husband to hold on to a wedding ring, a symbol of his marriage to his wife and allow his wife to die?

Now, aside the fact that God has not commanded that blood should not be used to save life (as in the case of blood transfusion) but warned against the eating of blood, let just say he had warned against blood transfusion.

What do you learn form Jesus personality throughout the bible? Did he not consistently demonstrated that need override laws, that mercy overrides sacrifice? Did he not reflect God mind when he said “if YOU had understood what this means, 'I want mercy, and not sacrifice,' YOU would not have condemned the guiltless ones.” (Mt 12:7) Why should we sacrifice our lives when God has not requested for it?

In another occasion, condemning the Pharisee’s scrupulous strictness to the letters of the law, He said: “you have disregarded the weightier matters of the Law, namely, justice and mercy and faithfulness. These things it was necessary to do, yet not to disregard the other things- (Mt 23:23)”.

Have you heard of the Jewish principles of Pikuach Nefesh? Do you seen on how many occasions Jesus display that principles? Have you ever heard your religious leaders mention that expression before among witnesses even though it is known and applied throughout the world?

Let me ask you, does Jehovah forbid cannibalism? The eating of human flesh? Does forbid organ transplants to save life? Does Jehovah's Witnesses allow organ transplant to save life?

On what grounds should blood transfusion be forbidden but organ transplant is allowed? Do you know that blood transfusion is the transplants of fluid tissues?

Do you know that in isolated occasions, when humans needed to eat unbled meat in order to sustain their own life, the Mosaic Law permitted such, but then required the eaters to fulfill the requirements of being “unclean” for a few hours. (Lev 17:13-16)


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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by spiralwedge(m): 12:44pm On Jun 01, 2020
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Please explain where Jesus mentioned it and the parable.

Your answer is in Like 16:24. Flame and hell are your key words

I don't normally argue with JW, because it's a cult and it's usually manipulative or unreasonable.

The history of the cult, especially of several failed apocalyptic dates predicted by the leaders, gives much not desire. Please, don't mention me again, won't trade words with you.

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