@ SPYDERMAN
PLEASE I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOU ON MY QUESTION BELOWW PLEASEEEEEEE NOW

Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex
« #1524 on: April 23, 2011, 03:52 PM »
da spyder great to know you are progressing wit your project, i believe it will come out fine
i went to the site today and spoke with the engineer as regards the use of 16mm and not 12mm, he said he noticed that water comes out of a portion of the land and he does not want to take chances(he took me a land that looks exactly like mine, i think i was convince) also i noticed a concrete beam round the foundation before they started to lay the blocks and i asked why the concrete beam he then told me it is to allow the foundation to have a firm grip before setting the blocks and to allow the building from cracking.

please oga spyder, what is your take about my explanation because the concrete beam with iron rod will cost extra 55k +.

@ SPYDERMAN
PLEASE I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOU ON MY QUESTION BELOWW PLEASEEEEEEE NOW

Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex
« #1524 on: April 23, 2011, 03:52 PM »
da spyder great to know you are progressing wit your project, i believe it will come out fine
i went to the site today and spoke with the engineer as regards the use of 16mm and not 12mm, he said he noticed that water comes out of a portion of the land and he does not want to take chances(he took me a land that looks exactly like mine, i think i was convince) also i noticed a concrete beam round the foundation before they started to lay the blocks and i asked why the concrete beam he then told me it is to allow the foundation to have a firm grip before setting the blocks and to allow the building from cracking.

please oga spyder, what is your take about my explanation because the concrete beam with iron rod will cost extra 55k +.

the staircase base

more staircase

rods for staircase

kingboy:

@ SPYDERMAN
PLEASE I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOU ON MY QUESTION BELOWW PLEASEEEEEEE NOW

Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex
« #1524 on: April 23, 2011, 03:52 PM »
da spyder great to know you are progressing wit your project, i believe it will come out fine
i went to the site today and spoke with the engineer as regards the use of 16mm and not 12mm, he said he noticed that water comes out of a portion of the land and he does not want to take chances(he took me a land that looks exactly like mine, i think i was convince) also i noticed a concrete beam round the foundation before they started to lay the blocks and i asked why the concrete beam he then told me it is to allow the foundation to have a firm grip before setting the blocks and to allow the building from cracking.

please oga spyder, what is your take about my explanation because the concrete beam with iron rod will cost extra 55k +.

Sorry that I didnt reply you in time, I guess the holidays made me relax too much.
I think your engineer is right to want to use 16mm rods to do the house so far as there is an evidence that the land seeps some water, no matter how small the flow. It will still soak the foundation and may make the works weak. Please allow him to use the 16mm rods as it will give you more rest of mind. Any money spent in building a house is not wasted, especially in the foundations. We can manage the aesthetics but its dangerous to cut corners with the structural aspects. I wish you a beautiful building experience, like mine

Spyder you don take my word oo! "for those who love pictures"
so which one i go use take post this one na ?     
@ all, checkout the fence pic!
I hope you like!
Peace!

kuntash:

@ all, especially Brabus, Spyder & Mr Alone, I have a serious question for you guys as it relates to Lintel & German floor.

- is there any disadvantage in doing a chain-like Lintel round the building?
- is a German floor compulsory for a simple twin 3-bedroom flat? (not storey building) or better put, if I dont do German floor and decides to proceed, what could go wrong?     (whether house is for lease or not)

pls guys kindly advice cos I am getting conflicting responses from the people I left my small project with,  

I am most likely to go with your advice here,  so pls respond,

tanks

There is no disadvantage, in fact, its an advantage to chain your lintels on top, it sort of binds the house together on the top as against just doing lintels on top of doors and windows only. So many people do this chaining in bungalows and its good/ stronger and even more expensive as more materials/ labor is involved.

A German floor is not very compulsory before you continue laying blocks in bungalows, but it is better you do the German floor before laying blocks. One big reason for this is the termites soldiers, they can burrow though the cracks and creep through the floors if you don't do your German floor before continuing with blockwork. And in water logged areas, you must do a solid German floor even in bungalows, otherwise there will be serious cracks in the blockwork and foundation in a few years.

Am Alone:

Spyder you don take my word oo! "for those who love pictures"
so which one i go use take post this one na ?     
@ all, checkout the fence pic!
I hope you like!
Peace!

I just borrowed the phrase na, abi you wan patent the phrase, nice fencing bros. the thing I love about Lagos sand is that its always very white and makes the sand/blocks beautiful. We don't have such sand here in Enugu, but our brown soil/sand is sure representing.

This is a 2days work by the bricklayer(one)
checkout! I am not paying him on daily basis so he is
putting in his best!
Also, I prefer to use just one bricklayer because I like
neat jobs. You can see the fence for yourself.
maybe the bricklayers knows his onion and his crafish _lol
you can testify!
more pic coming soon
Peace!

Am Alone:

This is a 2day work by the bricklayer(one)
checkout! I am not paying him on daily basis so he is
putting in his best!
Also, I prefer to use just one bricklayer because I like
neat jobs. You can see the fence for yourself.
maybe the bricklayers knows his onion and his crafish _lol
you can testify!
more pic coming soon
Peace!

His work is neat, I like that, there is only one bricklayer I have that works like that, but he is too slow. (worked in my last project last year) An old man who retired from active service years ago. Keep the pictures coming.

@ Spyder,
Dont think we don't have that sand here. That is what I was referring to as fresh water sand.
I don't use it, so I don't have the real price of it, but i know it is less than 10k.
People hardly use it here in Lagos, because it is believed not to be as efficient as the
dredging sand(the sand brought from high sea) and it goes for nothing less than 22k(though I
just found a supplier that can give me for 20k. And this is because he owns the truck and likes moi!)
check out the pic
However, people who cannot afford the dredging go for this.

once they supply me with the dredging sand, I will post for your to compare.

Goodlucks with your house too jorray!       1luv

Am Alone:

@ Spyder,
Dont think we don't have that sand here. That is what I was referring to as fresh water sand.
I don't use it, so I don't have the real price of it, but i know it is less than 10k.
People hardly use it here in Lagos, because it is believed not to be as efficient as the
dredging sand(the from brought from high see) and that one for for nothing less than 22k(though I
just found a supplier that can give me for 20k. And this is because he owns the truck and like moi!)
check out the pic
However, people who cannot afford the dredging go for this.

once they supply me with the dredging sand, I will post for your to compare.

Goodlucks with your house too jorray! 1luv

How much will it cost to send me the dredging sand to Enugu? I will love to use it abeg

lol!!!!~~~~^^^^^
No need bros. Your house make sense still na!

back back

@mike,
I went there today o
but it ain't easy, Mushin as a whole don't have what I like
and for my 9" doors, I was getting 120k
one of the brand name I love is 'Zodaic'
It amazing! And the quality is even higher than
thes turkey doors too. And it is even more expensive
so I plan to mix them. I have a neighbor who bought some
of thes doors for his house, I will contact with him
to see if I can know where he got his from.
The zodaic 3ft for 9" block, they were calling 70k oo!
Its too much my man. But for the normal 9" door for 4ft
I saw 110k for a stainless door I don't need and some
goo looking doors too of 4ft for 9" block 90k
and some 130k. For the china, I saw 37k for the 4ft
and 12k for the 3ft.

Abeg where you say them won give you 31k for turkey door?
Abeg jamisi! Also, you think say If I come Island I go fit get classy doors
there? Doors wey go fit command respect ooo!!! Mushin doors no too get levels
like that. Or maybe, I no too waka well.
I feel like say I don come back to square zero!
Oshey!!!

my bullet proof door cost 155k .nd got it from mushin

@Am_Alone, Spyder, Kuntash and Everyone.
Thanks for keeping this thread alive. I really wish Nairaland could provide a "like" button like we have it on facebook. You are really amazing!

@Am_Alone, I will be here watching how you will spend the final N4-5m that will take your house to completion. Keep the good work, men!

thanks mikeadeoye & Spyder, even though I ve asked Spyder smthn similar b4.

mikeadeoye I think I would follow ur route on the german floor.

I would also wait so the sand could set very well, I learn it rained well ystdy, better for me

tanks once again

brabus:

@Am_Alone, Spyder, Kuntash and Everyone.
Thanks for keeping this thread alive. I really wish Nairaland could provide a "like" button like we have it on facebook. You are really amazing!

@Am_Alone, I will be here watching how you will spend the final N4-5m that will take your house to completion. Keep the good work, men!

Bros welcome!
I no talk say I budget 10million for the bungalow o!
Just sit down and relax and enjoy the ride!
If i budget 10m, I no go use that roof!
Anyhow sha! make we dey look how e dey go!!!!
Thanks

Bros SMARTMEADE
Abeg you fit tell me where you buy that door?
Also abeg shey you fit post me the person contact number

Also, Brabus,
don't think 4m cannot finish the house
But to my standard/taste, IT CANNOT!!!

@ alone, good job- I like your taste. However, please make sure that your roof is supported by a very good entrance door. otherwise, a low level door will drown the look of your house.
@spider, you give me a lot of energy. Can not thank you guys enough!!!

^^^^
Trust me nah!!!!!
B4 I say Mushin no get the type of door wey I dey find
make you know say
E Dey REDD DIE!!!
PEACE!!!
THANKS MAN

@Alone, Very nice fence. do you mind giving me the bricklayer's contact? thanks

Am Alone:

^^^^
Trust me nah!!!!!
B4 I say Mushin no get the type of door wey I dey find
make you know say
E Dey REDD DIE!!!
PEACE!!!
THANKS MAN

make u order doors from heaven now since your taste no dey market  

prince_onx:

make u order doors from heaven now since your taste no dey market  

NO! Make I still try other markets first na!
Mushin is just one place

nettan:

@Alone,  Very nice fence. do you mind giving me the bricklayer's contact? thanks

Sorry brotherly, as much as I like to give you his number
but you can see I still have a lot to work to be done @mysite
So if I give you his number now, and you offer him 100k to come
and work for you, and he leaves my Job, I will be the one stranded with all these weak
bricklayers right?! Anyways, the bricklayer that set the block of my
house, his work is neat as well(but not as neat as this new one o!)
Do you care for that one's number? or you look for a neat bricklayers
job around your area and try to get the contact of the bricklayers that
did the job! This one was introduced to me my an Engineer, and before
he introduced the guy, I shouted and shouted and shouted at his ears!
"PERSON WEY SABI WORK WELLA NAI I WANT O!"
Peace!!!

^^^ By the way are those 9" blocks that you used as/for pillars? if yes why didn't you angle it like most people do? will it still serve the same purpose the way you have it?

^^^
Yes those are 9" blocks and the way I laid mine is a bit finer
I guess

^^^^^^
No doubt they look fine but they really don't look like they're serving the/it purpose ^pillars anymore. ^{guess u did it for the look not the importance/purpose.}

Actually, I was not the one who invented it
people have been doing it, and it has been
working just fine.
Peace!

Am Alone:

@mike,
I went there today o
but it ain't easy, Mushin as a whole don't have what I like
and for my 9" doors, I was getting 120k
one of the brand name I love is 'Zodaic'
It amazing! And the quality is even higher than
thes turkey doors too. And it is even more expensive
so I plan to mix them. I have a neighbor who bought some
of thes doors for his house, I will contact with him
to see if I can know where he got his from.
The zodaic 3ft for 9" block, they were calling 70k oo!
Its too much my man. But for the normal 9" door for 4ft
I saw 110k for a stainless door I don't need and some
goo looking doors too of 4ft for 9" block 90k
and some 130k. For the china, I saw 37k for the 4ft
and 12k for the 3ft.

Abeg where you say them won give you 31k for turkey door?
Abeg jamisi! Also, you think say If I come Island I go fit get classy doors
there? Doors wey go fit command respect ooo!!! Mushin doors no too get levels
like that. Or maybe, I no too waka well.
I feel like say I don come back to square zero!
Oshey!!!

Am Alone,

Thanks for the update on the doors. When u said Mushin the other time, I was kind of skeptical about u finding what u will like in that place given my idea of ur taste.

I have visited virtually all the main security doors dealers ( at least 4 majors ones) in the mainland and their offices on the Island. And what I have noticed is that everyone produces similar doors. What they do is just to go to the manufacturer Abroad to produce to a particular spec for them and simply just put their Nigerian Brand logo on the doors. One that I visited is a subsidiary of a foreign door Coy and deals mainly in doors as produced from their parent Company abroad. Meen!!! Their doors are very expensive, I found Bullet proof security doors being sold for 1 Million and some others 9 inch 3ft (90cm wide) doors being sold as low as 45K. U can be sure of their quality though as I actually saw their door somewhere before I went to their office. Though I’m NOT going to buy from them as the doors are BEYOND my budget.

There are so many other small Coys and traders who are into doors too and that is what u find in Mushin, Orile and the likes. And that is why u have to be careful when buying to be sure u are buying the right quality at the right price. They are of different grades ( China, Turkey) depending on the features. I have not particularly considered the China doors becos I might not go for them as I believe I can get something better from Europe at small additional prices and that is not to say that China doors are not of good grades.

The Coy I’m considering buying from have wooden doors, normal security doors (of different grades, sizes, and prices (but imported from Turkey/Poland), PVC doors for toilets and stores and ofcourse Israeli doors ( bullet proof) starting from 116k to 216K for 3ft or 5ft doors.

I have 18 doors (3 of them 4ft i.e 120 cm wide ) in that my house but all of 6 inch blocks as my internal walls are all 6 inch blocks. I’m doing a combination of wooden doors for my room entrances except the Master (turkey imported with lovely finishing) , Metal doors but wood finished (for my 2 internal 4ft doors, kitchen internal and external doors and my master bedroom), a metal door for the entrance thru my BQ and PVC doors for my bathroom and store. I’m considering one of the Isreali doors for my main entrance which is currently a 4 ft (120cm wide) but I’m considering reducing it to 100cm width to accommodate the size of Isreali door I’m looking at.

It is the wooden doors that go for about 31k or 32k depending on the sizes. Their other security doors (metal finished or metal but wood finished) range from 30k to 105k depending on the size (they’ve got 80cm, 90cm, 100cm, and 120 cm width plus frames). The pure PVC doors for toilets go for 17k or so.

The Coy is located on the Mainland (not too far from Ikorodu road) so if you want to check them out let me know. The only thing I remember is that I don’t remember seeing a lot of 9 inches door frames in their show room. Pls note that I m not trying to advertise for any Coy and that is why I have not mentioned any Company here.