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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by DCatt: 2:24am On Mar 06, 2022
Thank you @Op for putting this out.

I have these and more I was going to post since yesterday but been busy. I said it that 95% of the news out of Ukraine is fake but the zombies will keep swallowing it. I don't get why people still take words from media that has done nothing but lie to them for years.

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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Nova1988(m): 2:24am On Mar 06, 2022
neuf:
The truth is that this war has nothing to do with Ukraine, NATO or Russian national security. This war was designed and perfected by China and Russia to dethrone the US Dollar and put an end to the dollar hegemony. Bear with me let me explain a little.


I believe China and Russia finally figured it out that as long as the dollar remains the top currency, the US will always have the advantage. They can outrightly declare war on America, because then the world will be at war and anything other than China or Russian victory and US surrender, the status quo will be maintained.

Why do I reason this way?

Well in 2008, Ukraine and Georgia submitted a membership request to join NATO. At Romania NATO convention, members vote to denied their request. This is a step further than what Putin used as an excuse to start this senseless war. In 2022, Ukraine never submitted the request, only making it a law that Ukraine must join NATO and EU. There was no guarantee that their requested will be granted just like it was in 2008 given the Donbass and Crimea crisis but yet Putin decided to go to war.

I know must be thinking Russia wasn't strong enough as at 2008, that's why. You'd be wrong because so far, all their gadgets used in this war are equipments they had in 2008. None of their new tech have made an appearance in the war.

Also, the behaviour of China is giving the US vibes in WW2, sit on the fence and then swoop in to save the day and change the narrative.
I believe Russia thought that invading Ukraine will bring in the US into the war which might go nuclear in the worse case scenario. In that case, too much external pressure will cause the dollar to tumble, people will sell off dollars to purchase the Yuan, steadily making China the New superpower. They will in turn rebuild the Soviet Union alongside Russia.

think for a sec before you shout western propaganda, why is every one "the propagandists" blaming the US for absolutely nothing in particular.
- There is no evidence that the US cause the coup in Ukraine,
- there's no evidence that the US install Ukraine former president (this is for those of you that think Zelensky was the president back in 2014).
- The US specifically said they won't put boots on ground or come into direct confrontation with Russia over Ukraine even before the war started.
- The US promise to provide Ukraine with aids to defend itself which they have done.
- They promised sanctions on Russia which they have done.

Yet despite all these, all you see is how the US pushed Ukraine and then abandoned it. How the US is at fault. Even China that when it mattered choose to sit on the fence is blaming the US for absolutely nothing. Russia at every turn wants to bring the US into it.

why is that

there's some truth in what you're saying but lemme add something China may not have anything to do with this...let me explain one of the main reasons why the dollar is the top currency it's simply because Saudi Arabia(the largest oil exporter) after the 1981 Arab-isreali war agreed with the US on the petro-dollar which means for you to be able to buy oil you must use the dollar which the US can print any amount anytime they like. so that gave us the upper hand that's why the dollar is the main currency. remember the 2009 AU summit when gaddafi(president of libya) proposed for Africa to become one country and an African currency named gold dinar that is backed up by 140tonnes of gold and silver which is what will be used to buy oil and boom the US invaded Libya and bombed gadaffi out of existence and that's same thing happened to Saddam Hussein's Iraq( he didn't want to sell oil in usd again) and this was the main reason the US invaded Libya and Iraq, you can check over 3000 of hilary Clinton leaked emails. it was the invasion of Libya that pained me pass, at one time it was the richest African country and had a higher GDP per capita than US and UK now it's a war thorn shit hole and a safe heaven for terrorist! cry

Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Nova1988(m): 2:29am On Mar 06, 2022
naijaman2225:

GOOD QUESTION. EVERYONE HERE IS SHOUTING ABOUT 'WESTERN PROPAGANDA' WHEN IT IS A KNOWN FACT THAT THE RUSSIANS ARE MASTERS OF THE GAME.

come on bruv!

I'm not going to deny that Russia is using propaganda too o, but how will you say Russia are "masters" of the game? how old are you?
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Nova1988(m): 2:36am On Mar 06, 2022
sylvajoe:
I rather support the West than Russian for the following reasons.
1. The West promotes democracy and encourages open society Russian prefers dictators and autocrats.
2. The West support humanitarian and international development while Russia support conflicts only, eg. Syria, Mali, CAR, etc
I know some of those hating the West here work with western NGO,s or have friend and relatives who do so, collect their salaries in hard currencies, Ibdo not know any Russian foreing NGO. Kindly tell us one.
3. The West will allow media and religious freedom, Russia bans or persecute religious minorities, the media and evn their own NGOs.

4. The West will counter your political views with greater argument or reasoning while Russia will either jail you, expel and evn send men to the person in exile to poison and eliminate him.
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you made some fairly arguable points here but that your number one is solid bull crap!

check Libya under Gaddafi's socialist regime and Libya under the West "democracy"

Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Deffjam: 5:11am On Mar 06, 2022
afrikanns:


A slave will always be a slave no matter how cheap freedom is to them. It is in lineage blood.tufiakpa
stupidity will never allow an hypocrite to have and oversight.....to begin with stop using all what the west are producing....... ranging from software to hardware.......fool.
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by pegix(m): 5:58am On Mar 06, 2022

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