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Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by Nobody: 7:25am On Jul 17, 2011
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Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by mrofficial(m): 8:51am On Jul 17, 2011
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What one won't hear in this Naija? Amnesty to Boko Harams? Corrupt leaders! Joke country.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by 3kay945(m): 9:10am On Jul 17, 2011
The boko haram animals are still faceless, abi who is the govt going to call to roundtable negotiation? Or maybe their senator nd reps will represent them. Failed country.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by 3kay945(m): 9:10am On Jul 17, 2011
The boko haram animals are still faceless, abi who is the govt going to call to roundtable negotiation? Or maybe their senator nd reps will represent them. Failed country.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by MAURI: 9:15am On Jul 17, 2011
Hahaha,  Nigeria, pathetic failed state! This is the first step,  the next step will be:
"Reps approve compensation package For Boko Haram!"
Mark my words guys. Nigeria, when you think you've seen the worst, these guys will never cease to amaze us o!!
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by megaford(m): 9:16am On Jul 17, 2011
Granted in every struggle, there is bound to be innocent casualties. Do well to take a clue from the rebels in Libya. Can we equate how many innocents persons have died from that insurgent? What about the struggles in syria and yemen? Even when trained counter terrorist agents like United states special forces or marines enter any area for a military occupation, innocent casualties are recorded. The simple truth is that the Niger Delta militants to a large extent, played by the rules of engagement in their assaults. Properties were targeted with a prior notice warning residents or workers to relocate. Children, Women and unarmed Civilians were not targets. That is what you call combat rules of engagement cause when it is time to come to the table, all stakeholders will be interested in the talks. And what were they fighting for? environmental reparation, and a better life for their people and not the division of Nigeria or that a bulk of the country's resources that come from the Niger Delta area should not go to the north. NO! They never said that. Any right minded individual will definitely want to come to the table with such a group. But now, lets give it up for Gboko  Haram, tell us what you want and lets see if we can come to the table, and lets also hear your rules of engagement,
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by nagoma(m): 9:28am On Jul 17, 2011
We know that amnesty works we saw it with MEND and with Biafra before MEND.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by micklplus(m): 9:31am On Jul 17, 2011
The twist to the story is this,
JTF is now on ground, they are ready to flush BH out. Boko Haram members àñd their sponsors are not comfortable right now , they are going to capture some of them and that would be disastrous cus secrets would come out!!. They quickly asked their senators/ reps to ask for amnesty so that, their A.Ss.es would be covered up. Embezzlement continues and its business as usual.

Chikena
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by blacksta(m): 9:43am On Jul 17, 2011
What is good for the geese is also good for gander . If you can grant basterds in ND amnesty hence same should apply to the BAs tards in the North

it is the only way a failed government can handle this matter ( Invite them to come and Chop)
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by blacksta(m): 9:45am On Jul 17, 2011
micklplus:

The twist to the story is this,
JTF is now on ground, they are ready to flush BH out. Boko Haram members àñd their sponsors are not comfortable right now , they are going to capture some of them and that would be disastrous cus secrets would come out!!. They quickly asked their senators/ reps to ask for amnesty so that, their behind.es would be covered up. Embezzlement continues and its business as usual.

Chikena

Delusions of grandeur - Like they flushed out the ones in Jos and the Niger Delta.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by micklplus(m): 9:48am On Jul 17, 2011
^^^ ok, what's ur take on the situation?
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by Nobody: 9:49am On Jul 17, 2011
ok, amnesty, no amnesty, what is in the package, do the senators want the FG to start paying the boko niggas so they can take a chill pill and start using their guns as walking sticks or to herd cows or do they want the harem boys to be sent abroad for training like was done for the niger deltans,
but wait a minute, the bokos do not want anything western education, so what are u going to train them on, fishing? nah they are desert dwellers, ok lets try farming, animal herding,  grin grin grin,
do the amnesty so some senators can marry more 13yr old grin grin
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by micklplus(m): 9:53am On Jul 17, 2011
ARES, nice one!!
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by blacksta(m): 9:53am On Jul 17, 2011
micklplus:

^^^ ok, what's your take on the situation?

 A national conference to address Nigeria’s structural problems , remove immunity from public office holders ( Gov, President)
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by micklplus(m): 10:00am On Jul 17, 2011
Good point blacksta especially the immunity clause for our blood sucking leaders, but, do you thing national conference is the solution?
I would think, going our various ways would ensure peace in all the regions. I strongly think naija is a fraud and some peeps are hell bent on keep it as one for their selfish ends.

Anyway, amnesty is a no no and it shouldn't be encouraged at all.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by kpogede77: 10:39am On Jul 17, 2011
The sponsors of Boko Haram who use them to rig election may have promised them amnesty prior to the election. They have become desperate to force the president to grant them unconditional amnesty and negotiate with them (B(o)an(k)o Robbers) because they are running out of fund to sustain the war.
The niger delta youths who have relied on fishing before the oil exploration activities started became jobless as a result of oil production activities that polluted the water and reduce the population of fishes and they became agitated and demanded for resource control and true federalism through militant activities since all effort to dialog with the government proved abortive. The militants didn't beg for amnesty, so why this desperation for amnesty?
Is the oil exploration affecting their cattle and tomato in the north?
If the purpose of the fighting is to get amnesty, then why the attachment of Boko and Haram?
If they are envious of the niger delta militants who were given amnesty, they should remember that amed robbers will be envious of them if they are given amnesty because many armed robbers are graduates and they are watching the unfolding drama.
If FG make the mistake of given them amnesty, he should be prepared to give all armed robbers amnesty as the Boko Haram have no much difference from armed robbers without a course.
My recommendation is that FG should arrest those Borno law makers because they know the boys, they are their foot soldiers and they are already negotiating on their behalf. The ND war lasted with JTF for so many years before amnesty, why are they not willing to experience what we have been experiencing for years that has become a normal way of life in the ND.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by Nobody: 10:39am On Jul 17, 2011
The truth is the Nigerian national assembly is full of bullshit ideas! Why give amnesty to those killing the innocents? I think they have to explain the reason why they think this amnesty is necessary for Boko Haram?
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by micklplus(m): 10:47am On Jul 17, 2011
Well said kpogede and all4naija! It would be a greatest disservice to naija if BH and their members are given this poo amnesty!
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by raphael4u2c: 10:52am On Jul 17, 2011
all of them must die .nonsense boko haram .their papa.what kind of stupid amnesty .i knw dat GEJ wont let dat happen, becos of dis i nid admission 2 NDA .
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by Nobody: 10:52am On Jul 17, 2011
The truth is that,the members of the national assembly asking for Amnesty for the BH are also members of the dreaded group.So what they are indirectly asking for is amnesty for themselves.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by deadie(m): 11:26am On Jul 17, 2011
I totally support the lawmakers. How about pulling out of Borno state and putting the troops at the border between Borno and the rest of the country? When they are ready to live like the rest of the country, maybe they rejoin the union. Wait, isn't this applicable to the whole northern states who practice Sharia? One wonders why these Islam loving people wouldn't want their own Islamic republic ruled by their clerics, but instead fight to live with infidels.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by Johnpaul2k2(m): 11:57am On Jul 17, 2011
GRADUATES = NO WORK angry angry angry
STUDENTS = NO BETTER FACILITIES lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
NIGERIA = NO WATER,NO LIGHT shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
SECURITY= -0 % grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
MEND = AMNESTY grin grin grin
BOKO HARAM = MAYBE AMNESTY TOO cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
CIVIL SERVANTS = AWAITING MINIMUM WAGE angry angry angry angry
BOTTOM LINE
I THINK OUR GOVERNMENT UNDERSTAND VIOLENT TO PEACE
WE MAY SOON FORM 'NIGERIAN GRADUATES HARAM', cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
THEN OUR AMNESTY WILL BE GRANTED
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by mamasani: 12:21pm On Jul 17, 2011
Why were they silent until now. The bokoharam sect have been operating in Maiduguri since the 1980s and what have they done to control it? What have the security agencies been doing to stop it all this while? Why is the govt now sending soldiers to curb it? How would they even know who is bh? The problem of bh is peculiar. It is religious, and as we all know it is the opium of the masses. What makes the lawmakers to believe that they will stop it if amnesty is given to them? The law makers should go back to their constituencies and dialogue with them. The bh are well known. People are afraid to point them out because the bh assassinate them. So the elders of borno, the politicians, the bosg, the shehu etc, should trace them and dialogue with them. Soldiers should leave.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by Tyche(m): 12:30pm On Jul 17, 2011
The title of this post is deceptive. it should read: Senators and Reps from Borno state Back Amnesty For Boko Haram.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by Concept(m): 12:37pm On Jul 17, 2011
Common sense is no longer common. O maa see ooooo.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by sonyvaio(f): 1:23pm On Jul 17, 2011
MASSOB was not offered amnesty or dialogue despite their non-violent approach angry
isn't that unfair?

The leader of the Movement for the Actualization of the Sovereign State of Biafra (MASSOB), Chief Ralph Uwazuruike has threatened that his group may abandon its non-violent approach and toe the line of the Boko Haram since the Federal Government understands the language of violence. Uwazuruike, in an exclusive interview with Daily Sun in Owerri at the weekend said both groups were calling for the division of the country in different ways, saying while the Boko Haram adopted violence approach to press their demands, the latter (MASSOB) engaged in non-violent method to achieve the same objective.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by mbulela: 1:26pm On Jul 17, 2011
these clowns called leaders will do anything to maintain the status quo so that the bazaar will continue undisturbed.
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by blackbeau1(f): 1:48pm On Jul 17, 2011
this is total rubbish.that means i'm going to start up my own terrorists group soon.who wants to join?
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by executinal(m): 2:39pm On Jul 17, 2011
#Afanna:

[b]Senators, Reps back amnesty for Boko Haram

On July 16, 2011 · In News
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By INALEGWU SHAIBU, Abuja
MEMBERS of the Na tional Assembly from Borno state yesterday asked President Goodluck Jonathan to grant the alleged terrorist group Boko Haram an unconditional amnesty to quell the menace of the sect in the state.

The unrest in the state also led to the rescue of over 50 students of Cross River origin who were stranded in the University of Maiduguri by Senate Leader, Victor Ndoma-Egba.

The legislators under the Borno State Caucus of the National Assembly, led by Senator Maina Maji Lawan also asked President Jonathan to withdraw the Joint Military Task Force, JTF from Maiduguri, the state capital and negotiate with the sect.

Senator Maji Lawan accompanied by Senators Mohammed Ndume, Ahmed Zana, and House of Representatives members Amuna Khadi, Muktar Aliyu and Kyari Gugbawu told journalists in Abuja that the presence of JTF has escalated violence in Maduguri.

The Caucus observed that the use of force by the JTF will not bring an end to the crisis, while lamenting that the JTF has sacked Maiduguri through senseless killings of innocent Nigerians and burning of houses and cars.

He said, “We the National Assembly members from Borno State, having met and reviewed the security situation vis-à-vis the increased deployment of troops and other security agencies, observe that the situation is deteriorating by the day causing untold hardship on the innocent citizens.

“The caucus is further worried by the mass exodus of people with its attendant and concomitant effect of rendering people refugees. We are also worried by the closure of academic institutions, banks and other business as well as relevant agencies.

“The caucus resolves as follows; urged the President and Commander-in-Chief to order for the withdrawal of the military from Maiduguri and its environs. The Federal Government should engage the Yusufiya group in dialogue in order to find a lasting solution to the crisis.”

On amnesty being the best option to tackle Boko Haram, he said, “Giving the situation and the intense pressure that our people are going through we have been compelled to make our position public and demand that the Nigeria state act in the best interest of innocent people and that institution of state should first and foremost protect the lives and property of innocent individuals and citizens.

“In a situation whereby pay organs of authority are the source of the greatest agony of the people, we have no choice but to come and make this statement on behalf of the good people that elected us.

“After painfully looking at the situation and our immediate history in this part of the country and other areas,  in the Niger Delta region a similar situation has arisen where Joint Task Forces under all source of vices were sent they ransacked Odi, they ransacked homes and villages in the name of searching for militants, but what did it comes out with, it only succeeded in aggravating the situation as it is now aggravating the situation, because the victims are now becoming victims of state hands down instead of victims of the suppose militants or terrorist group.

“And ultimately what happened in Niger Delta, it is not the brute force that brought out the solution, it is the unconditional amnesty granted by government where accordingly calling for similar approach.

“Dialogue should commence with unconditional amnesty so that when people are coming to the table they are not coming with swords and guns pointing in their necks and heads. We believe that engaging the Yusufia elements in an honest dialogue will yield a better result and will give us a more positive outcome, will bring us peace and stability to Maiduguri and subsequently to northern Nigeria and Nigeria.”
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/senators-reps-back-amnesty-for-boko-haram/[/b]

What is Jona still waiting for? get this bastards arrested, from their point, i understand that the are the main sponsor of this so called BOKO HARAM IDIOTS. Wonder shall never end. Give amnesty to terrorist? damn angry angry angry angry angry angry
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by mikeslim(m): 2:41pm On Jul 17, 2011
Cowards, they think by shielding the murderers they will be free, if they go down this part it will simply create a ripple effect, another group will start targeting their families and when the government goes after them they will seek amnesty. bloody kahoonsss angry
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by hbrednic: 3:06pm On Jul 17, 2011
Boko never asked for amnesty
Re: Senators, Reps Back Amnesty For Boko Haram by JaaizTech: 3:19pm On Jul 17, 2011
Senator Mohammed Ali Ndume represents Borno South in the Senate. In this interview, he explains the Boko Haram crisis in Borno State and ways to bring the problem to an end.



You are agitating for the military to leave Maiduguri, what did you tell the President when you met with him?


Actually, the topic of discussion was to give the president the other side of the situation. He has the security chiefs. He is the commander in chief of the armed forces and he has all the para-military agencies on the field, but we are the representatives of the people. So we went to tell him what we know is actually on ground. That is to enable him compare what his security chiefs are telling him and what we the representatives of the people know is the actual situation on ground.

I must state that I was humbled by the concern of the President and his willingness to take any advice that will lead to solving this problem. I think we are getting to it because he said whatever will bring back peace and progress to that area; he is willing to do it. We now say the first stage in the process is to withdraw the military because they have not achieved the desired or expected result. When you have a problem and you apply a solution that is not solving the problem, then you have to pull back and look at the methodology and maybe apply another method.

We told the president just everybody is now suggesting that the use of force in the world history has never succeeded in any insurgence cases. In the United Kingdom, they had the issue of the Irish Republican Army (IRA), in Spain, you have the issue of ETA, in Russia there is the Chechen rebels and in several other places. Even in Afghanistan, the United States and its allies have been fighting the Talibans for over ten years without much success, now they have to go back to the negotiation table with the moderates in the Taliban. That is why we are saying that the federal government should engage in dialogue and intensify intelligence instead of using force. That cannot solve the problem especially when you have an enemy that is invinsible. The victims are the visible civilians. In this trouble now the visible civilians are the victims. They have been displaced and we have gotten to a level of a humanitarian crisis.

We went and spoke with Mr. President and he said he is going to do a lot of consultation to take a quick decision as to what is the way forward. We also called on government to manage the humanitarian crisis there by sending the appropriate agencies to provide relief to the victims.


Many people are saying that the leaders of Borno state are late in speaking out on this crisis.


Well, the military and the authority were taking action, any action we take outside that would have been in countenance to what they are doing. The government is responsible for security and welfare of the people. The government always says or claims that they are in charge and we as the citizens will have to give them the opportunity. But as the situation is getting out of hand now, we have to offer a solution. The solution we have offered is that they should withdraw this military and engage in dialogue. It is from the dialogue that we can get the necessary steps to be taken. I don’t think that we are coming late.

The previous government was responsible for the bad management of this situation that has now degenerated to where we find ourselves today. It is not that we have not been advising. We have been doing that at the lower level. It is now that we have to come out to the public and to the larger society. It is not that we have been sitting down. We tried our best in quelling this crisis long ago but the previous government was not even ready to listen.


As a then member of the ruling ANPP in Borno State, what will you say is the level of government’s involvement in establishing the Boko Haram sect?

Let me say that Boko Haram started eight years ago. It started in Yobe, spread to Kano, Gombe, Bauchi and Adamawa. Although they had their headquarter, that is what they call the Madras in Maiduguri, but it was as a result of bad management of the situation by the then governor of Borno state, Ali Modu Sheriff, that led to the crisis that we now have. I was a member of the ANPP, the governor was from our party but he was solely responsible as the chief security officer of the state. He is the problem or part of the problem. He cannot exonerate himself from that to be part of the solution because he is part of the problem. Sheriff may not be the one who created Boko Haram but who created the Boko Haram problem? It is not the Boko Haram now but the crisis. We are not talking about the sect now because they have been in existence for the past eight years; they never attacked any civilian or engaged in violence. It was just like every other religious sect. there are sects in all the religions. But there is no fight over that. That was how the Boko Haram was. But the security organizations thought that their ways of preaching borders on national security and instead of managing it, they tried to crush that sect and that created more problems than solution. It was the then governor who was at the center of the problem that we now face, so he cannot be part of the solution because he cannot exonerate himself from it.


How can government now negotiate with the sect because they don’t even know the sect members?

As I said, when you withdraw the military, initially they issued their demands before they launched attacks. Parts of their demands were that compensation be paid to the families of their members unlawfully killed and that those involved in the extra judicial killing of their members be prosecuted. That was not done. The federal government set up a panel of inquiry, they requested that the report should be published, that was not done. Let me tell you that they have contact with the security especially the State Security Service (SSS). The SSS was even containing the Boko Haram. Not by force, but by conviction. They interact and the SSS tried to de-radicalize some of them, they try to set them up. When the situation got out of hand, I thought that the SSS and the intelligence people should have been the agencies that government should use as vehicles to intensify reaching out to the sect to know what they want and if that is legally acceptable.

Instead, they just decided to use force. Now the soldiers, because they don’t know who their enemy is, have succeeded in killing so many innocent citizens. While the Boko Haram on the other hand know their enemy and are specific about that, have never except in few instances of stray bullets, they go for their targets. Borno citizens generally were not panicking at that time because they knew that the problem is between the Yusuffiyya and the authorities. Initially, when they issue their threats, they did not include army. They say they are coming after the police and those informants that led to the arrest of some of them who ran away when their headquarter was crushed. They had a list and they even sent letter to their targets telling them why they were coming after them. There are several people today who know they wronged the Boko Haram sect and cannot venture into Maiduguri today including Ali Sheriff himself. He knows that. We were in the same party, but if you advice him, he won’t listen. The consequence now is that he cannot go to Maiduguri.

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