fx45:
Reno nothing will favour you. You no kuku get family again... No need to say you and your family. You're in for a very long and bumpy ride. Go and get a job

Kukutenla:

Lol. You're simply explaining the Northern agenda. He had to bow to their wish. That's the whole idea of Northern agenda. Anything you get will be on their terms.
A Northern Christian can deliver at least five states in the North. Stop making baseless claims.

Well, both Awo and Zik eventually suffered same heartbreak. So i don't see how anyone was better off. I'm still waiting to see if Tinubu can achieve true federalism.

garfield1:


Which state can a northern christian deliver? So babachir lawal can deliver adamawa or dogara can deliver Bauchi or lalong deliver plateau? Stop making baseless assumptions.will the northern christian deliver the core north?
Tinubu was never forced or arm twisteded to pick a Muslim,it has always been his choice right from 2011 in acn and even in 2015.eho forced him then? You should admire how tinubu managed to rubbish atiku.tinubu focus is to bring good governance not enthrone federalism

garfield1:


You lie.apc is gradually pushing out pdp in ss esp with the coming of lp.apc has captured crs,penetrating aks and rivers.even if wike didn't rig,apc still got 25%.apc is solid in bayelsa,has almost recaptured edo.delta is the only place

Kukutenla:

Obi is not a northern Christian yet he won three northern states (four if you add Abj) and performed creditably well in another three. Lalong couldn't deliver Plateau for Tinubu while Obi won there. Let that sink in.
Tinubu already knew that the only way he can win was to align with the north and he knew the only ground he could do so was based on religion. That's why he's always fielded a MuMu ticket. 20 years down the line, the fruit of the success of this ticket will begin to show in our politics. I hope you won't come back and cry then. Tinubu rubbished Atiku while he won only ten states out of 36. What a rubbishing.
Tinubu's claim since his AD days has always been as an advocate of true federalism. That's what he and his cohorts fought OBJ for. He's there now. Let him achieve it with his mandate.

garfield1:


You opposition are where you are because of bad calculations.it is not about the number of states but margins and number of votes and spread.ariku was busy counting number of states won foolishly till he was beaten in the north.if tinubu had picked a Christian,highest he will win is plateau,nasarawa,taraba narrowly.northern christians voted obi because he ran a religious campaign targeting the christians plus they preferred voting a southern xtian than a southern Muslim or another Northerner.
Why are you recanting? Didn't you say tinubu was forced by northerners to field a Muslim? If you don't know something,allow those with superior knowledge to school you,there's no harm in that..even if tinubu picked a xtian,he would still not win plateau.is it not lalong that couldn't deliver himself? Even buhari with a pastor couldn't win there. Tinubu is the greatest politician,just accept it

mrksquare:




Did you just say APC would have gotten 25% if Wike didn't rig the election for Tinubu?


I was in the field on the day of the election. After LP party astounding showing, the next party that performed very well was PDP in the presidential election followed by APC. Owing to Buhari abysmal performance, Rivers people detested the party. Even Buhari performance made it difficult for us to market Tonye Cole.

As for Bayelsa, Timipre Sylva will come second position. You know he can't win in that state. As for Cross Rivers state, the party was factionalized going into that election. So the defeat was eminent.

bjdon:
I really do not like Tinubu

However I totally respect him as a political operative. The man is always thinking many steps ahead.

He knows APC is weak in the SS, so he's looking to solidify his position there. With Wike and Ibori on side, he will be in a very strong position in that region.

Others could learn a lot from him in strategic planning

bjdon:
I really do not like Tinubu

However I totally respect him as a political operative. The man is always thinking many steps ahead.

He knows APC is weak in the SS, so he's looking to solidify his position there. With Wike and Ibori on side, he will be in a very strong position in that region.

Others could learn a lot from him in strategic planning

SendoSendal:
The Ogidigbogbodigbo himself. Strong Politician anytime, anyday. He had his obvious flaws no doubt but well respected in the creeks

Kukutenla:

What is this dude saying now? You people have gone to hide under margins. Why were they rigging when they were so sure of the margins?
If you can rig rivers and benue, what's to say you didn't rig other places?
How did I recant? Is English to hard for you to understand? Tinubu knew he will need northern Muslims votes. But see you saying he wasn't told by the northern govs to chose a northern Muslims? Are you really that ignorant or you're just playing? If Tinubu chose Lalong, he will definitely win Plateau. I see you've shifted from your claim that a northern christian can't win any state in the North after you've seen how harebrained that claim is.
But Buhari won Plateau in 2019 or what are you saying?

garfield1:


You lie.obidients recounted the result,obi had 300,000 and tinubu had 170,000.pdp result was less than 100k.most pdp supporters voted lp and wike suppressed the rest so no way pdp could beat apc.
Lp votes from early results were from ikwerre areas,onelga,eleme.apc dominated or marched lp in the rural areas until wike struck.
You cannot use division as an excuse.apc in rivers was seriously divided.amechi faction were not working for tinubu yet apc still managed to beat pdp.
In CRS,apc too had internal issues.the new pdp led by ayade and old APC were struggling for the soul of the party and are still struggling.
If sylva can unite with the Lyon faction,he can win.dickson as an incumbent struggled to win sylva.a naive diri would struggle.is it not diri that has been crying about apc importing thugs ? Why would a whole gov cry

garfield1:


You don't even know what you are saying.buhari lost plateau in 2019 to atiku.yet you are talking carelessly.lalong that couldn't win his senate,how would he win for tinubu? What is the point of winning plateau and losing the north? Tinubu went for a winning formula unlike lp and pdp.what do you mean by hiding under margins? So winning states is more important than margin? You have nothing to say
Tinubu has always wanted to choose a Muslim,his history shows that.eveb if the govs restated it,tinubu has nursed that idea since.moreover,the gov wanted him to choose one of them that is why they protested to buhari according to you.
What diff does the rigging in benue and rivers make? It shows how powerful,strong and superior tinubu and apc is.rigging is a part of our elections and will always be

bennybuhari:
After meeting with class of 1999 governors, President Bola Tinubu specially received the former governor of Delta State, Chief James Onanefe Ibori at his Asokoro residence.

Pure Levels.....

theophorus:
Say whatever you like about James Ibori but go ask Deltans Na the Best Governor for Delta till date be that no be those Yeye Eweta and Ifeanyi.

mrksquare:




Which people voted for Tinubu? How many LGA's did Tinubu win? I am really amazed at your position. That obidient counted what and Tinubu got 170k votes? Very laughable. More like a tale from wonderland.

Kukutenla:

Buhari won Plateau in 2015 then. And it was again a southern christian. Tinubu went for a winning formula to satisfy the north. If he had not divided the south, he could choose a northern Christian and still win because he'll be assured of winning almost all NC states, two states in NE and one in NW at least with all the southern states. That's a sure victory. So don't make it seem as if that's the only way for him. It became the only way because of APC's divisive policies.
Rigging is for losers. Anyone sure if winning need not rig. You rig because you're afraid of losing.
It shows that even with all the northern Muslim votes, tinubu still needs to win christian states to win overall.

bjdon:
I really do not like Tinubu

However I totally respect him as a political operative. The man is always thinking many steps ahead.

He knows APC is weak in the SS, so he's looking to solidify his position there. With Wike and Ibori on side, he will be in a very strong position in that region.

Others could learn a lot from him in strategic planning

garfield1:


Even 2015,buhari lost plateau by 120k but it narrowed to 80k in 2019.apart from the south,how many christian states did tinubu won apart from benue and maybe kogi which made no difference? The north gave him over 60% and the ne nw gave him over 4 mil votes which is almost half of his votes.

How did tinubu divide the south? Se were always going for obi or atiku and sw was slightly going obi or division.tinubu will not need core north if south voted him like they voted obj.apc strength has always been the core north.
They will always be rigging.sometimes you rig incase your opponent rigs.most times popularity is not enough.eveb if tinubu forbids rigging,some of his lieutenants will still rig for him.in summary without rigging,tinubu still won.tinubu went for a winning formula to satisfy his personal desire not the north.whej he insisted on mm in 2011,was he satisfying the north? If he did anything to please the north,it was just for him to get there while he later shows his true colour like obj.this is politics l.oh wait,you wanted him to choose a Christian and lose? Lol..
Tinubu simply studied the 1979 and 1993 template and deployed it by correcting awo and mko mistakes

FourQu:
Thief meets thief

They look good in bed together

bjdon:
I really do not like Tinubu

However I totally respect him as a political operative. The man is always thinking many steps ahead.

He knows APC is weak in the SS, so he's looking to solidify his position there. With Wike and Ibori on side, he will be in a very strong position in that region.

Others could learn a lot from him in strategic planning

beerfraud:
who is Omokri if i may ask you? you Obi supporters were licking his anus when i joined nairaland. go through my post

Kukutenla:

Buhari won Benue and Nasarawa in 2015 and Nasarawa in 2019. Tinubu did not win benue. Irev has proven that. That's why I said he had to go with what the north wanted. It's a divisive template. You go extreme to get the bloc on your side. If APC was not a divisive party, after 2015 elections, the right thing would have been to give the SE either of SP or Speaker. That is what GEJ wanted to do in 2011 which the Tinubu crew frustrated. One thing that APC has now brought into our politics is sharing political offices like spoils of war instead of to achieve national cohesion and integration which used to be the focus before APC. That's why from 2015 to 2019, APC had: President NW, VP SW, SP NC, Speaker NE, leaving out SE and SS from the top four political posts. 2019 to 2023 was worse: President NW, VP SW, SP NE, Speaker SW, leaving out three regions from the top posts. 2023 to 2027 when they managed to achieve regional balancing, they can't achieve religious balancing. That's to show how divisive APC as a party is. APC has never tried to court the SE/SS. They were too fixated on the numbers to look at the greatest good of the country. They are like mercenaries. That's why the country hardly progressed as an entity under them.
Rigging is a sign of weakness. When you're sure of victory, there's no reason to rig. He went for the extreme formula because he had used his greed and lust for power to divide the south. He's the first southern president with a northern mandate. He couldn't win the south. He lost the south yet he claims he represents the South. The 1979 template was about national cohesion. If Tinubu had adopted it, no way he would have run a Mumu ticket. Awo ran a christian-christian ticket then and lost!! Abiola on the other hand won because it was obvious everyone just wanted the military out and no one cared for religion then.
That said, you keep claiming he would have lost if he chose a northern christian and I keep proving to you it's because he did not have the support of the majority south where majority of Christians are. That's why his ticket is mainly divisive and based on pandering to the north

bennybuhari:
After meeting with class of 1999 governors, President Bola Tinubu specially received the former governor of Delta State, Chief James Onanefe Ibori at his Asokoro residence.

Pure Levels.....

exotique1fy:
Time for him to truly bounce back on the national scene. He has paid for his crimes.