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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by IrishBebey: 9:08am On Aug 22, 2013
kofsy:
Wait! How did he know he has been banned? Was he told point blank? Or he just guessed?
I guess thats the punishment for that violation?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Vicjustice: 9:46am On Aug 22, 2013
Ha, Bebeyeco, cheesy cheesy what are you doing in my domain? grin grin grin
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Vicjustice: 9:50am On Aug 22, 2013
uchechuwku: Wonders why d processing is taking too long

Since 29th...habba.

Date on my Itinerary is d 22nd august.
Apparently, my bags are packed.
Does anyone knw if dates on Itinerary affects final outcome?
I mean if date of d supposed departure date has passed before yur docs r processed.
Travel dates do affect the vast majority of visa applications especially if the purpose of travelling is date sensitive
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Vicjustice: 9:54am On Aug 22, 2013
kofsy:
Wait! How did he know he has been banned? Was he told point blank? Or he just guessed?
kofsy:
Lol! Why are you taking this personally though?
There's no need to unduly encourage someone to hope for, or to attempt to amend something that never would be: the guy is banned and he should be told so
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Nobody: 10:15am On Aug 22, 2013
Vicjustice:
There's no need to unduly encourage someone to hope for, or to attempt to amend something that never would be: the guy is banned and he should be told so
From his post, he sounded like the embassy explicitly told him he had been banned. But I know the embassy does not do that. A friend also thought that he had been banned cos the ECO said the birth certificate he presented with his application was fake. He reapplied and was given... This was 2008 though...

Even at that, I'm not giving the guy false hope. I only wanted to know if he was certain that he had been banned. Sometimes people just assume.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by naijarazzi: 10:26am On Aug 22, 2013
Vicjustice:
There are 101 reasons for the ECO to refuse your application, and as your circumstances are, there is no amount of appeal or review that can overturn the decision

Plz state some reasons why d eco won't overturn his decision. In my case, I heard my bank statement isn't necessary, that they only need dat of my sponsor. A frnd of mine, unemployed like me, was granted visa, and he only stated dat he will be returning because he wil be doing his masters soon
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by naijarazzi: 10:31am On Aug 22, 2013
olu1234567:

Try adminisntrative review list that the eco failed to consider the money transfer receipts submitted with the application

Ok thnx bro
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by wola44: 11:28am On Aug 22, 2013
Vicjustice:
Except you visit the hotel in person, or have someone to do that for you, it would be highly unlikely to find a hotel that allows reservation without credit card details

Hi,

Question,

Can i use Nigeria Bank Master card ?
Are they going to charge the credit card if i provide it ?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by DisGuy: 11:42am On Aug 22, 2013
^^ won't hurt trying a Nigerian mastercard..

depending on the hotel ,some will charge you straight away whilst some will charge you 24hrs to your due date-
-read the terms and conditions- it will be stated clearly

or you can always give them a ring
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by solomonwis(m): 11:48am On Aug 22, 2013
foce: Pls huz my younger brother, just received 10years ban the ECO's reason was that he did not mentioned that he has been refused visa 3times in 2006 with the old passport,our taught was that since it was more than 5years ago that they must have destroyed his previews applications. right now I want to know if there is any form of appeal to reduce the ban or something

Your brother might be able to overturn this ban if you can answer these questions:

1. Did he include the old passport in the application?

2. Was the old passport stamped at each of the 3 period he was refused?

If your answer is yes,then this will be termed an “innocent mistake” which is permissible by the guidance for the ECOs in the treatment of such application.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Vicjustice: 11:48am On Aug 22, 2013
wola44:

Hi,

Question,

Can i use Nigeria Bank Master card ?
Are they going to charge the credit card if i provide it ?
Unfortunately, Nigerian credit cards are not accepted in most western country businesses, many thanks to the fraudulent activities of Nigerian syndicates.
Once before, my brother booked a flight to Ireland from Nigeria, the flight confirmation came up, and the itinerary was issued, but days passed by, and then, one week, two weeks and still counting, but his account wasn't charged. With concern, I advised him to contact Airfrance customer care who later informed him that their system automatically cancels or voids any ticket that is purchased in Nigeria without cash.
So, be aware that same thing could happen with hotel reservation.

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Vicjustice: 12:06pm On Aug 22, 2013
[quote author=]

Plz state some reasons why d eco won't overturn his decision. In my case, I heard my bank statement isn't necessary, that they only need dat of my sponsor. A frnd of mine, unemployed like me, was granted visa, and he only stated dat he will be returning because he wil be doing his masters soon[/quote]There's no need to enter a debate about this, you only need to know the requirements for tourist visa and understand where these requirements can be tampered with circumstances in order to understand the reasons an appeal or a review won't help
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by foce(m): 5:22pm On Aug 22, 2013
solomonwis:

Your brother might be able to overturn this ban if you can answer these questions:

1. Did he include the old passport in the application?

2. Was the old passport stamped at each of the 3 period he was refused?

If your answer is yes,then this will be termed an “innocent mistake” which is permissible by the guidance for the ECOs in the treatment of such application.
He did not include the old passport
The old passports has the refusal stamps thou,
He didn't know that they still have his 2006 data and you know the biometrics is not in use then so he though since its over 7years that they must have destroyed it,coupled with the introduction of the new nigerian passport. It was only a mistake
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Raphel2011: 6:48pm On Aug 22, 2013
Hi Vicjustice,
Thanks a lot for your reply. The major reason why I'm concerned about how long it will take is because ill have to go back to dubai bcs uni resumes on the 8th
Of sept. I was planning on travelling on the 25th and return back to dubai on the 10th.
Thanks for your time, it was appreciated.

Vicjustice:
Though your dad seems to be wealthy in properties and his income is impressive, but i see some problem with the figure of cash available to him.
Under normal circumstances, it is normal for your visa application to be refused (with such available fund which the visa officer may be concerned about as it is not logical for a father with a combine sum of N1.4m to vastly spend the money on a son's visit to the UK especially when he has other children and responsibilities to attend to). But looking into your travel history and the credibility that you (and your family) have earned over the years, the visa officer may want to give you the benefit of doubt: but don't be surprised if the visa is refused this time.
But why do people always ask "how long it takes" after submitting an application?
The fact is, whether you are anxious or not; whether you ask the question or not; whether it is answered or not; whether the time is short or long, nothing can change anything, and the time that it would take an embassy to decide your application can not be influenced: So, i would say, IT TAKES AS LONG AS IT TAKES, and as long as it takes to apply for a fresh tourist visa: usually between 2 weeks and 2 months.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by solomonwis(m): 6:50pm On Aug 22, 2013
foce:
He did not include the old passport
The old passports has the refusal stamps thou,
He didn't know that they still have his 2006 data and you know the biometrics is not in use then so he though since its over 7years that they must have destroyed it,coupled with the introduction of the new nigerian passport. It was only a mistake

Then case is closed. He should forget about the UK for the next 10 years
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Raphel2011: 6:57pm On Aug 22, 2013
@ justwise, olu1234567, dis guy and everyone please I need your opinion on this. I'm looking forward to getting a response soon. God in his infinite mercies will bless you all. AMEN.

Raphel2011: Hi everyone, first ill like to appreciate the contributions and advice of everyone on this forum. God bless y'all.
I would like to know the processing time to renew uk visiting visa from lagos. I applied on the 5th of this month.
The truth of the matter is I'm kinda scared for some strange reasons. Some of the documents we submitted are:
My dad's statement of account showing he gets a pension of 350k every month and the balance on that account is about 400k. The balance in his other account is 1m. We included some agreements btw him and some of his tenants as well as evaluation cert from jide taiwo stating his 3 buildings worth over 130m. I also included my statement of account that shows I have about 9k dirhams(360k naira), my transcrip, and my school I.d just to show that I live in dubai and I won't wanna stay in their country. I and my fam go to the uk twice every year since 2004 and our previous visa's was 2yrs(2 times) and 5 years that expired 2 months ago. One of the things that bothers me is that in my mum's form, we stated there that she is supported by spouse who earns pension of 350k and rents of over 4m annually. Do you think we would have any problem with the visa renewal?
Any inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks for d anticipated reply.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by DisGuy: 8:16pm On Aug 22, 2013
I thought you had your question answered already

You chances are high I'd say; you have previously applied and never had a problem keeping to the terms of your visas

was the main sponsor retired during the previous applications?

One of the things that bothers me is that in my mum's form, we stated there that she is supported by spouse who earns pension of 350k and rents of over 4m annually. Do you think we would have any problem with the visa renewal?

in your previous applications what were her circumstances?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Raphel2011: 8:35pm On Aug 22, 2013
Thanks for the swift reply. The sponsor was retired in the last application (5 years ago). My mum retired 8 years ago, so her circumstance wass basically the same as it is now. The main thing that bothers me is the amount he has in the account as of the time we applied.
I'm looking forward to your reply.
Thanks a lot

Dis Guy: I thought you had your question answered already

You chances are high I'd say; you have previously applied and never had a problem keeping to the terms of your visas

was the main sponsor retired during the previous applications?



in your previous applications what were her circumstances?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by ayobj: 8:47pm On Aug 22, 2013
[quote author=Vicjustice]
I beg to disagree.I bought a KLM ticket to london on airport road lagos with my zenith mastercard.
I have also used diamond bank and standard chartered visa cards at walmart,tesco,clarks,pizza hut,asda,subway all over the world-USA and UK inclusive.Nigerian cards are well accepted.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by uchechuwku: 9:32pm On Aug 22, 2013
Yagga!!!!!

I was called today by UKBA around 2PM

(A cool, kind of Nigerian male voice).
I've been worried sick why my application is taking too long. Unfortunately, d officer claimed "they" have been trying to get across to me for some time now (damn!!!, airtel sucks).
It really was a big relief.
Hopefully, wld pick up my visa next week.
(Checking d date and time of dis post)
I Should be MMIA right now excited for my first ever visit to the UK.
N.B- if yur app is taking too long, keep your fone lines active and check your emails sometimes.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by solomonwis(m): 9:42pm On Aug 22, 2013
uchechuwku: Yagga!!!!!

I was called today by UKBA around 2PM

(A cool, kind of Nigerian male voice).
I've been worried sick why my application is taking too long. Unfortunately, d officer claimed "they" have been trying to get across to me for some time now (damn!!!, airtel sucks).
It really was a big relief.
Hopefully, wld pick up my visa next week.
(Checking d date and time of dis post)
I Should be MMIA right now excited for my first ever visit to the UK.
N.B- if yur app is taking too long, keep your fone lines active and check your emails sometimes.

What was their reason for calling?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by uchechuwku: 10:58pm On Aug 22, 2013
solomonwis:

What was their reason for calling?
He said "they" have been trying to get through to my
sponsor for an acknowledgement email from a
"body" that showed up on one of d docs. Apparently, they've tried, but not successful, so I shld get my sponsor for him to get an email across to them. I was just saying "yes, okay, okay, yes,".
After d call, I was like "wetin nah, his number is all
over d IV letter nah even with seal sef, why yu no
call him ursef nah"
Sponsor cum vex, write dem back (CC'ied me) say
na official matter nah, give dem fone numbers,
emails, fax numbers, etc etc say make dem no dey
send am message (no be so him write am oooo).
D tin is he had to drive all d way to d office and d
person in charge said dey never got any email or
calls requesting for details frm UKBA. That dey can't email UKBA cos someone said they should, that it isan official issue.
I just dey middle now ooo (holding my head)
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by uchechuwku: 11:08pm On Aug 22, 2013
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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Vicjustice: 1:15am On Aug 23, 2013
ayobj: I beg to disagree.I bought a KLM ticket to london on airport road lagos with my zenith mastercard.
I have also used diamond bank and standard chartered visa cards at walmart,tesco,clarks,pizza hut,asda,subway all over the world-USA and UK inclusive.Nigerian cards are well accepted.
I don't know about now, but i know that a while ago, my very brother couldn't buy a ticket for Air France from Nigeria with a credit card. Even Turkish Airline wouldn't accept credit card from us last May

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by shalon: 8:25am On Aug 23, 2013
shalon: Hello guys,I want to share my experience .i was refused renewal based on the following refusal note given to me
You wish to visit for 10days and I am aware that you were previously granted a visit visa.With that application you stated that you intend to spend 7 days and provided hotel reservation but end up spending 1 month.You provided no evidence or any details as to why you stayed longer or how you maintained your self during the extended visit. Furthermore checks by our office revealed that you made hotel reservation using false credit card details(which was a pure lie cos I used my Gtb bank card to reserve it and I subsequently cancelled the reservation cos I could nt travel at the stated period.

In view of the above,I am not satisfied that you are genuinely seeking entry as a visitor.I therefore refused your application .Your right of appeal is limited to the ground blab blab .
I have to say that I am a widely travelled individual with good business here.Been to us,canada,schegen many times,even have a valid 1 year schegen and us visa..

It all happened in late December and I never bothered to write or reapply cos I see them as being unnecessarily racist and just want to be exploiting money from applicants though I didn't apply for two years cos I don't see the justification for paying 73 k as visa fee while us is just 26k and Germany is 12800 for a year visa.
Please I want to know if my case over the false credit card attract 10 years ban because I never used a false credit card cos all I did was to reserve room not to make payment.please advise.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by histamine(m): 9:05am On Aug 23, 2013
Hi Justwise,

I recently got a Job in the UK and will be coming home to apply for a tier 2 visa as i am on a visit visa. I have all the required documentation, only thing that concerns me is claiming points for English language. I do already have IELTS, problem is its expired (was taken for medical licensing exams). I was wondering if i can claim points with my University degree or O level English language results.

Is it better i retake the IELTS?

Thanks.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by Vicjustice: 9:33am On Aug 23, 2013
shalon: shalon: Hello guys,I want to share my experience .i was refused renewal based on the following refusal note given to me
You wish to visit for 10days and I am aware that you were previously granted a visit visa.With that application you stated that you intend to spend 7 days and provided hotel reservation but end up spending 1 month.You provided no evidence or any details as to why you stayed longer or how you maintained your self during the extended visit. Furthermore checks by our office revealed that you made hotel reservation using false credit card details(which was a pure lie cos I used my Gtb bank card to reserve it and I subsequently cancelled the reservation cos I could nt travel at the stated period.

In view of the above,I am not satisfied that you are genuinely seeking entry as a visitor.I therefore refused your application .Your right of appeal is limited to the ground blab blab .
I have to say that I am a widely travelled individual with good business here.Been to us,canada,schegen many times,even have a valid 1 year schegen and us visa..

It all happened in late December and I never bothered to write or reapply cos I see them as being unnecessarily racist and just want to be exploiting money from applicants though I didn't apply for two years cos I don't see the justification for paying 73 k as visa fee while us is just 26k and Germany is 12800 for a year visa.
Please I want to know if my case over the false credit card attract 10 years ban because I never used a false credit card cos all I did was to reserve room not to make payment.please advise.
It's not because you stayed longer than 10 days that you're having this problem, it's because other things have gone wrong, and they have now brought your previous stay into question: it is not a breach of visa conditions to stay for 5 months even if you declared that you'd be staying for 7 days, but you may be subjected to explain why you stayed that long and how you manage yourself during the stay.
If the information that you have given is accurate, then you are a victim of circumstance, but you're to blame partially, this will serve as a caution to others who like to book a hotel and then cancel it in order to keep their money: this rampant act may soon force hoteliers to apply restrictions to people booking hotels from Nigeria.
You made a huge mistake by not requesting for administrative review during the window period, it will be near impossible for you to fight it now...
I'm of the opinion that you've been banned for 10 years for this error which the visa officer considers the use of fraud and deception.
Worse still, if your passport bears visa of these countries that you mentioned the UK embassy could contact the embassies concerned to advise them that you're a fraudster and that would mean a wider problem
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 9:52am On Aug 23, 2013
histamine: Hi Justwise,

I recently got a Job in the UK and will be coming home to apply for a tier 2 visa as i am on a visit visa. I have all the required documentation, only thing that concerns me is claiming points for English language. I do already have IELTS, problem is its expired (was taken for medical licensing exams). I was wondering if i can claim points with my University degree or O level English language results.

Is it better i retake the IELTS?

Thanks.


That should be good enough but to have peace of mind i suggest you take IELTS again if you don't want to leave any stone unturned.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 9:56am On Aug 23, 2013
shalon: shalon: Hello guys,I want to share my experience .i was refused renewal based on the following refusal note given to me
You wish to visit for 10days and I am aware that you were previously granted a visit visa.With that application you stated that you intend to spend 7 days and provided hotel reservation but end up spending 1 month.You provided no evidence or any details as to why you stayed longer or how you maintained your self during the extended visit. Furthermore checks by our office revealed that you made hotel reservation using false credit card details(which was a pure lie cos I used my Gtb bank card to reserve it and I subsequently cancelled the reservation cos I could nt travel at the stated period.

In view of the above,I am not satisfied that you are genuinely seeking entry as a visitor.I therefore refused your application .Your right of appeal is limited to the ground blab blab .
I have to say that I am a widely travelled individual with good business here.Been to us,canada,schegen many times,even have a valid 1 year schegen and us visa..

It all happened in late December and I never bothered to write or reapply cos I see them as being unnecessarily racist and just want to be exploiting money from applicants though I didn't apply for two years cos I don't see the justification for paying 73 k as visa fee while us is just 26k and Germany is 12800 for a year visa.
Please I want to know if my case over the false credit card attract 10 years ban because I never used a false credit card cos all I did was to reserve room not to make payment.please advise.

Why did you not challenge such serious allegation then?

Racist and exploitation? The same people that issued you visa before?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by DisGuy: 11:08am On Aug 23, 2013
was also surprised he used that language even and still considers it a good place to visit

many things i dont understand about our people--you go through so much hassle to visit a place then come back and mouth off- "ahh what is in that place sef, they just want our money"

stay principled people! if you dont like a country why worry so much about what they do, there are many other options
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(m): 11:49am On Aug 23, 2013
Dis Guy: was also surprised he used that language even and still considers it a good place to visit

many things i dont understand about our people--you go through so much hassle to visit a place then come back and mouth off- "ahh what is in that place sef, they just want out money"

stay principled people! if you dont like a country why worry so much about what they do there are many other options

1000....Likes
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by shalon: 4:11pm On Aug 23, 2013
Thanks Guys for your contributions.Maybe I should just say this,this forum is all about sharing ideas.First of all,I didn't cancelled the hotel cos of money,I did because I couldnt travel as the reserved period,secondly I was never aware that I could ask for an administrative review and since the period which I intend to travel has passed,I never felt it was necessary to reapply cos I wasn't desperate.I applied cos I wanted to travel in December not after that.Lastly It is possible for me to ask my lawyer to email clarifying the aspect of a false credit card.I don't intend to travel to the UK now or in the nearest future.I need constructive advice.

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