jackass the jerk,
milan and juve played the final of 2002/2003, madrid vs valencia 2000/2001, all this teams were 1st and 2nd on thier table. a good team plays good in any tournament be it europe or domestic. stop bragging sh*t here.
You know what, had man utd lost that final i guess the same excuse would have applied here! the fact you guys from EPL will never face reality.

AC Milan finished 4th last season and won UEFA.

by beating man utd (the team that won EPL)

Only a team as good as Man Utd could have achieved the TREBLE status in 1999 . . . .

bullsh*t milan, juve beryen, madrid, ajax all the it.

English clubs get short-changed by the huge schedule of back to back footie while other European clubs enjoy holidays in december.

super story

and if there will be break in EPL you guys will cry of fatique. c'mon give me a break. you guys a pathetic.

@ Jackal,
All those excuses don't hold water at all. Chelsea could have won Liverpool last year and play the UCL finals so what do you say about that.

What competition was Arsenal concentrating on Last year since we have area of specialisation for EPL clubs?

You EPL guys seem to have ready made excuse for everything in this world ranging from plastic pitch in Moscow, Wayne Rooney Injured in Germany 2006,

Beckham and Gerrard injured in Japan Korea, Beckham red carded in France 98, All coaches not good from Venables to Hoddle, to Kevin Keegan to

Sven Eriksson to Mc Claren, excuses excuses excuses. And you know only fakers give excuses for everything.

The thing is English coaches are not up to grade!!! hardly do you have any one worth mentioning. or what is the excuse for English coach being pathetic

in everything they do?

@gabrielgb
We tried winning the game but those wankstars scored a goal at the dieing minutes

@Jackal
u berra dont try to convince these dudes, they will drag this thing till the end of time

@Dayokanu
sharrrrap der and face ur work

@footie
DAYOKANU, english coaches are learning the ropes, all they need to do is go out of their league and coach either in La Liga or Serie A.

Can they learn?

They are block heads No manager from England coaches any top side apart from Alardyce

DAYOKANU, english coaches are learning the ropes, all they need to do is go out of their league and coach either in La Liga or Serie A.

tkb417 i almost fell off the chair here LOL. i dont think you are aware of how technical and tactical the game is here. no beefing though but english coaches( exclude british:SAF) are not just up to the task. ppl consider EPL an entertaining league because of coaches like AW, SAF, benetez, JM etc, imagine another foriegner on board: Juande ramos. EPL is missing its identity.

They are block heads No manager from England coaches any top side apart from Alardyce

even alardyce cant be considered a world class coach.

@gabrielgb

keep it up dude,  haha,  nice one,  i really enjoy you gabriel. Jackal is full of sh*t and non- sense, 

@jackal
You little punk ass what hell is wrong with you ,  i think the male lizard is in your mendula,  if you try to hit me back i will destrroy u sleekgene,

Up chelsea we're winning this night

Verdict 2- 0          or a draw 0-0

Dayokanu, let this be finalised; English national team is different from English Premier League.
Will you support Germany to beat Nigeria b'cos you support Bayern Munich

Anybody could coach Bayern Munich to win the Bundesliga.
Infact, they could win the league even withoutt a coach,so why won't they win this season

What exactly is Folahan trying to say? Bayern did not win the Bundesliga last season so what. English national team is crap, English coaches are terrible.

Gabriel i was just trying to make fun of Alardyce world class for where? Even Onigbinde is more of a world class coach compared to Alardyce.

Fergie support for Blatter stance on imports

Sir Alex Ferguson believes clubs should be seen to have 'a proportion of home-based players' - and feels rivals Arsenal would 'protest the loudest' at such a rule.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter has announced he will lobby for restrictions on the number of foreign players in each team and Ferguson has voiced his support.

'It's certainly not wrong that clubs should be seen to have a proportion of home-based players,' the Manchester United manager said.

'I totally agree (with Blatter) but it would be a problem for a club like Arsenal. That's why they'll protest the loudest.

'You want to protect your own, and there is nothing wrong with that. But, for the good of the game in England, it would be good to see more home-based players at the top clubs.

'United's critics would say `It's all right for you, you already have English players in your side'. But I think if you asked a neutral, they would rather see more home-based players.'

He added: 'Under the present Treaty of Rome you couldn't make it law. It would have to be an agreement between the clubs. But if it went to a vote, I think it would get through [even though] there would be opposition from clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal, who have strong Spanish and French connections.

'It would certainly be a contentious issue but I agree with the principle of it.'

In an interview in the club magazine, Inside United, Ferguson also called for agents to be more strictly regulated to prevent money flowing out of the game.

'I think we need a tariff for agents that brings them in line with other professions, like lawyers or accountants,' he added.

'Agents need to be regulated in a far stricter way than they have been in the past.

'They are a very lucky breed because as long as you have greedy club presidents, agents will always be in the driving seat. But if world football recognises the need for regulation, that would make a real difference.

'The set up has to be more professional.'

Wenger has also expressed his views on the topic in Arsenal's club magazine, and feels no coach 'at the highest level' would think it is a good idea.

'I find the whole proposal completely ridiculous,' he said.

'The thinking behind it, I believe, is to protect the national teams. But it won't protect the best players, it will protect the mediocre ones and you don't win a World Cup with mediocre players, you win it with world-class ones.

'The best English players - the Rooneys, the Owens, the Gerrards, the Lampards - they are all playing for their clubs anyway.

'FIFA are wrong if they think this will improve international football. Look at rugby for example. The Argentina national team - all their players play in Europe, and the national team takes advantage of that. Had they all stayed in Argentina, would they have made the semi-finals? To mix the best with the best makes everyone better.

'I am worried that it could happen. I would say that it's more than 50% likely to be brought in.

'FIFA is powerful enough to implement the rule internally, if (Sepp) Blatter has the support of the council and his committees. Will it go through or not, I do not know but it looks as though it could. I have already had many discussions at UEFA and it looks as though it could happen.
'I don't believe one football coach at the highest level would say it's a good idea. A football coach is always confronted with the same problem - he wants to reward good players.'

Asked what would happen if the rule was introduced, Wenger added: 'First of all we have to fight against it.

'If you fight it that should buy us some time. During that time you have to adapt to it.'

The Gunners boss fears the issue could prove divisive and refused to rule out clubs splitting from FIFA.

'Maybe, I don't know what the evolution will be,' he added. 'I always think that it's the strength of the sport if it's unified at the top level and you do not have a split.

'Because then the rules can begin to change and before you know it you have different sports. So that is dangerous too. If the football bodies don't take care of the sport that could happen and that's a real danger.'

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=479393&cc=3888

[size=8pt][size=8pt]Wenger Hits Back At Fergie Over 'Foreign Policy'[/size][/size]

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has responded to Sir Alex Ferguson comments on the lack of English players playing for the Gunners.


Ferguson had accused Wenger of opposing plans for having a minimum number of English players in every Premiership team simply to suit his own purposes.

However, the Arsenal managed has responded by suggesting that United were no messiahs of English football either, pointing towards some big money foreign signings.

“If you look at the investments of Manchester United this year you’ll see they have spent a lot of money on foreign players," he said.

“I do not know what is behind these comments from Alex Ferguson, but if I was a foreign player at Manchester United I would not be very happy if he said these things.

“But I’m ready to take the blame for all the problems of English football if that is what he wants.”

Having responded to Ferguson, Wenger went about explaining why he is against Blatter's plan.

“I have always believed that sport should be about quality so hiding behind artificial rules would not help anyone," he argued.

“It doesn’t make bad students better if you put down the level of the class. It makes them worse.

"Only by competing against the best in the world can you improve levels. The public want to see the best.”

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=472335

@dayokanu,

i think arsenal and inter milan will realy suffer is if this policy is adhere to. arsenal is spoiling english futbal AW should also look for english prodigies. but i cant realy blame him though english players are overrated; AW wanted SWP but the demand was f*king to much. i think young english players have to be modest b4 AW can think of buying them. he would rather go to other leagues and buy 'em cheap.
what am saying is you cant blame AW for his decision but still english players are needed in his squad no doubt.

SAF has nothing to loose, he plays lots of british players.

Anybody could coach Bayern Munich to win the Bundesliga.
Infact, they could win the league even withoutt a coach,so why won't they win this season

folahann is that a joke or what? i bet its a joke.

Dayokanu, let this be finalised; English national team is different from English Premier League.
Will you support Germany to beat Nigeria b'because you support Bayern Munich

guy i will support the AZZURRI for sure.

FORZA AZZURRI

@Dayokanu
did u see the headlines this morning? I think the English press are bastards. u know why? when Arsenal scored seven against Starving Praque, they said "magnificient seven" check the headlines today and see wassup. And thats supposed to be a record breaking feat. I tire for those guys

When Arsenal scored seven, Juventus have scored seven before, Monaco scored eight against Depor but now, see biased reporting. I just hate the press in that country

@gabrielgb
Nothing stops a british player that has just finished his playing career from going to La Liga or Serie A to learn the ropes just as Mourhinho did. It has nothing to do with where youre coming from. It has to do with learning under a good coach in those leagues for a few years and then they can move on from der.

The English Press is notoriously known to misrepresent facts so nothing is surprising to me

hey TKB manaco's scoreline then was 8-3 so liverpool scoreline is a bit flattering. yea juve defeated olimpiakos or panatinaikos 7-0.

@gabrielgb
Nothing stops a british player that has just finished his playing career from going to La Liga or Serie A to learn the ropes just as Mourhinho did. It has nothing to do with where youre coming from. It has to do with learning under a good coach in those leagues for a few years and then they can move on from der.

the only english player that showed interest in coaching in calcio was paul ince, he wants to manage inter which is quite impossible. but i think if english players wants to be great managers, they have to play or atleast end their careers in other leagues. it will be good for their development.

Sir Bobby Robson was a great world class manager (ask JM)
funny nobody remembered him in this thread.

they have to play or atleast end their careers in other leagues. it will be good for their development.

They dont have to, they just need to understudy a top coach in a foreign league and that will be it.

Some good coaches like Benitez didnt play the game at all and they are top coaches

dayokanu:

What exactly is Folahan trying to say? Bayern did not win the Bundesliga last season so what. English national team is crap, English coaches are terrible.

The squad last season is damn too different from this season's.
Thay failed to win it last season b'cos they were still recovering from the loss of Ballack. Case closed

The quota system will do no good to football.
If it is introduced,let' take England for example; that means there will be more English players in the premiership. All this players can not be selected to play for the national team(only the best will be chosen) meaning a club will have more players without international value. This will also unsettle a lot of players, resulting in Big(Very Good) Players playing for teams not matching their standard.
The affected tems will have to dispatch some of their good players and this players might not find good teams to play for. Take a look at this very well, this is going to cause more harm than good

The quota system will do no good to football.
If it is introduced,let' take England for example; that means there will be more English players in the premiership. All this players can not be selected to play for the national team(only the best will be chosen) meaning a club will have more players without international value. This will also unsettle a lot of players, resulting in Big(Very Good) Players playing for teams not matching their standard.
The affected tems will have to dispatch some of their good players and this players might not find good teams to play for. Take a look at this very well, this is going to cause more harm than good

The milan team has pirlo, gattuso, inzagi, gilardino, oddo and ambrosini, as starters in thier team likewise roma, even barca, man u, etc. so what's ur point?

but i think the system is weird and stupid.

They don't have to, they just need to understudy a top coach in a foreign league and that will be it.

Some good coaches like Benitez didnt play the game at all and they are top coaches

benitez is not a briton. i still beleive their ego wont let them go to other leagues since they beleive theirs is the best.

by the way did you guys see pirlo's pass to inzaghi yesternight? (now that what i call a world class pass)

For milan i will agree, but what of other teams in Seria A . If they are like Milan,there will be a lot of Italian players in the top teams and all these players won't feature for the national team, thereby giving foreingn players less chances of playing for good teams.
This system might help natinal teams(in europe) but will destroy the beauty of club football.

For milan i will agree, but what of other teams in Seria A . If they are like Milan,there will be a lot of Italian players in the top teams and all these players won't feature for the national team, thereby giving foreingn players less chances of playing for good teams.
This system might help natinal teams(in europe) but will destroy the beauty of club football.

folahann grow up, only inter is considered a non italian team ( due to the number of italian players there). if you watch calcio you wouldn't have posted that.

Roma-totti, cassteti, panucci, de rossi, aquilliani, tonetto, espotino, perotta (only espotino doesn't have a stating shirt.)there was cassano, tommasi delvechio, etc

juve has always produced half of azzurri players right from the time of rossi, zoff, down to zambrotta, del piero, canavaro, buffon, conte, tachinardi, brindelli, and now chiellin, noverino, crisito, palladino, laquinta, etc.
even fiorentina is producing some exciting azzurrini

i folahann i dont realy understand your point? as a matter of fact but juve produces great italian players.

For milan i will agree, but what of other teams in Seria A .   If they are like Milan,there will be a lot of Italian players in the top teams and all these players won't feature for the national team, thereby giving foreingn players less chances of playing for good teams.
This system might help natinal teams(in europe) but will destroy the beauty of club football.

folahann grow up, only inter is considered a non italian team ( due to the number of italian players there). if you watch calcio you wouldn't have posted that.

Roma-totti, cassteti, panucci, de rossi, aquilliani, tonetto, espotino, perotta (only espotino doesn't have a stating shirt.)there was cassano, tommasi delvechio, etc

juve has always produced half of azzurri players right from the time of rossi,  zoff,  down to zambrotta, del piero, canavaro, buffon, conte, tachinardi, brindelli, and now chiellin, noverino, crisito, palladino, laquinta, etc.
even fiorentina is producing some exciting azzurrini

i folahann i dont realy understand your point? as a matter of fact but juve produces great italian players.

Sorry, i know Italian teamsare os that nature.
There was no player from outside Italian at the world Cup last year, but what oh other leagues.
Look at this very well, if Figo had spent his in the Portugese league, Zidane spent his in the french league, not to talk of none european players especially (south America) if they had not got the chance of playing for big team in Europe. . . . .
you know what coul have happened yourself

Who saw Ibracadabra's goal yesterday??

It was surprising to know that none of you could answer the question.For you information,the best COACH on planet Earth is, Godwin Uwua.

The squad last season is damn too different from this season's.
Thay failed to win it last season b'because they were still recovering from the loss of Ballack. Case closed

Dont even try and talk about Ballack and bayern because that is an unfamiliar territory to you. What exactly did Bayern win with Ballack? Considering our record Ballacks stay in Munich was unfruitful.

His coming was the beginning of our downward trend in UCL. Check the records; Bayern lost for the first time in 8 years at home in the champions league in

Ballack's first game!!

@Gabriel, sage and Hustler, what do you think is the problem with Adriano? I used to think the guy was the next best thing in Football but he is not up to it right now

see some footage of when Adriano was good A skillfull big man striker that can use his head that is rare for a Brazilian cos most Brazilians are not good headers
see this footages
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=AnTgfC4FFe0&eurl=http%3A

His coming was the beginning of our downward trend in UCL. Check the records; Bayern lost for the first time in 8 years at home in the champions league in

Ballack's first game!!

yeah right!!!! at least he wasnt der when Bolton played draw at the Allianz Arena yesterday. The last time i checked, Bolton is at the bottom of the EPL while Bayern is at the summit

Buntcha shmuks.

@footie
Adriano is another case of wine gone sour. . . I think his personal excesses are his undoing.
Like someone said, skills, luck and self discipline are the ingredients that will take you to the top of your career, Skills and Luck he has them but the latter is what he lacks at a very alarming proportion. He needs divine deliverance. Imagine West ham bidding for Adriano. Thats insults

Do you remember Newcastle at the bottom of the EPL this time last season beating Palermo on top of Serie A? Yet italian team won the UCL.

Do you remember Larrissa from Mars/Lilliput eliminating Blackburn? one of the top teams in EPL. Do you still remember Rosenborg drawing Chelsea at home?

You shouldn't also forget Croatia Zagreb playing 0-0 with the all conquering man Utd in 1999-2000 champions league