El Guapo:

Mind You, this 'claim' is not Just about this Season alone.

Now u know how Voluminous the Evidences u're Clamoring for would Look like.

elampiro:

Come up with the evidence why United should not be champions. Period!

Every team benefit from referees errors, if you were to compile fairly, United will be far behind City and Arsenal in favours received, irrespective of the period or range of review. You will be surprised United negatives will be higher than the positives. Incase you don't know, there is a chart for this.

StarBoard:

So by your logic, before 2004, Chelsea was what?
Stop making yourself look bad clutching at straws.
Answer my questions and stop bandying weak excuses.

For real this guy cannot be taken seriously.
Chelsea look up the table and see United 17 points ahead.
They have even tried sef, given that the final gap last season was 25 points.
Inferiority complex raring its head in the form of pompous supporters who can't let go of the past.
And he wants us to believe that the gulf in class is due to Howard Webb and co alone.

These Chelsea fans wont cese to amaze

StarBoard:

Leave the dimwit to keep clutching at straws.
He didn't see the goal wrongly chalked off at the Manchester derby.
He didn't see the van Persie goal vs Reading that was ruled out wrongly.
But he comes here regurgitating beer-parlor statements about refs to justify his position why Chelsea for two consecutive seasons have remained at least 15 points behind United in the league.

elampiro:

And Wayne Rooney un-awarded penalty (clear penalty appeal turned down) against Totteham. That would have killed the game because United should have be two nil up with few minutes to go.

El Guapo:

The Real Challenge would only Surface when Roman took Over and that's a Fact. And i'd tell you its been a Successful Era.

Credit most of ur Domestic Success to the Refs and Shut It.

El Guapo:

The ref got it spot on. Rooney wrapped his leg with the defender and fell.

elampiro:

You can as well credit United European successes to the referees, even the double United did on Chelsea in Europe.

Mr Man, can you apply logic to this argument? You can at least prove you aren't the every day Chelsea fan on the street. This is what you can learn from a Manchester United thread- constructive argument. A team is won the league and lost yours with 20+ points at the time, you are shouting referee. Do you realised your team entered into 8 competition this season and are only left in one? I guess the referee threw you out of those seven.

El Guapo:

The Real Challenge would only Surface when Roman took Over and that's a Fact. And i'd tell you its been a Successful Era.

El Guapo:


Credit most of ur Domestic Success to the Refs and Shut It.

El Guapo:

Well, the argument has got nothing to do with Chelsea's Poor Outing on many Fronts this Season.

The Premise have been on U guys getting favors from Refs -- Stick that into ya Membrane!

European Successes that appear Once in a Blue moon? I hate to think of u guys as UCL Favourites every Season, not with those traditional outdated wing football.

Count the Semis we've made In the Past 6Yrs and Check Urs then get me the Scorecard.

El Guapo:
The Real Challenge would only Surface when Roman took Over and that's a Fact. And i'd tell you its been a Successful Era.

Credit most of ur Domestic Success to the Refs and Shut It.

coogar:

since the roman revolution in 2003.....
chelsea won the league thrice(2005, 2006 and 2010)
united won the league 5 times(2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013)

the referee stuff is bullshit, chelsea get more favours than any other team domestically. you have won titles by dodgy decisions. your ghost goals cost spurs the fa tie in wembley last season. no team scores ghost goals as much as chelsea and we all remember when terry was the only defender allowed to use his hands to block shots for several seasons.....

elampiro:
I have told you countless times that every team get these favours. You guys were shouting as though United won on goals difference such that plus or minus, referees' errors would have produced a different table standing. You are yet to convinced anyone that United benefited more than four points from the supposed favours.

For the UCL record.

2007- United lost at 1/4 final to Milan
2008- United won the UCL, beat Barca in the semi.
2009- United lost the final to Barca, did double mercilessly on Arsenal in the semi.
2010- United lost the 1/4 final to Bayern Munich
2011- United lost the final to Barca after completing double on Chelsea in semi.
2012- went out on group stage
2013- lost at 2nd round to Madrid.

So what you trying to get at?

Note: The lost to Bayern and Madrid had some controversy.

elampiro:

I have told you countless times that every team get these favours. You guys were shouting as though United won on goals difference such that plus or minus, referees' errors would have produced a different table standing. You are yet to convinced anyone that United benefited more than four points from the supposed favours.

For the UCL record.

2007- United lost at 1/4 final to Milan
2008- United won the UCL, beat Barca in the semi.
2009- United lost the final to Barca, did double mercilessly on Arsenal in the semi.
2010- United lost the 1/4 final to Bayern Munich
2011- United lost the final to Barca after completing double on Chelsea in semi.
2012- went out on group stage
2013- lost at 2nd round to Madrid.

So what you trying to get at?

Note: The lost to Bayern and Madrid had some controversy.

El Guapo:
Still Certain that Chelsea's UCL record from 04 beats that to the dust

coogar:

since the roman revolution in 2003.....
chelsea won the league thrice(2005, 2006 and 2010)
united won the league 5 times(2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013)

the referee stuff is bullshit, chelsea get more favours than any other team domestically. you have won titles by dodgy decisions. your ghost goals cost spurs the fa tie in wembley last season. no team scores ghost goals as much as chelsea and we all remember when terry was the only defender allowed to use his hands to block shots for several seasons.....

And here comes my Man...

Those Last lines got me Grinning like a New Orleans kid watching Simpson & Family - Terry did what? Dont lemme bring up the horrendous defending Rio, Wes brown, Oshea, Silvestre etc would put up on a United shirt.

Some Managers, Media outlets and Players believes that Refs help u guys, am not an exception here.

El Guapo:
And here comes my Man...

Those Last lines got me Grinning like a New Orleans kid watching Simpson & Family - Terry did what? Dont lemme bring up the horrendous defending Rio, Wes brown, Oshea, Silvestre etc would put up on a United shirt.

Some Managers, Media outlets and Players believes that Refs help u guys, am not an exception here.

El Guapo:

The emboldened words almost gave me Cardiac arrest...



Hehe - Kept thinkin' why u would love to thrust into war of words wih me, u've been canvasin' for it seriously, a flash of thought explained u could have a Lexicon nearby fetching u bizzare courage or on ur lonely hours, u love to be shittd Upon - Key reason i wanted to have a 'sensible' converso wih Coog and not a dumbass

El Guapo: Coog talking about making the UCL finals to meet Barca and get humiliated doesn't make for Healthy Challenge, maybe u guys were waiting on Webb to come fill the 12th Man Position.

Am still of the Opinion that u've benefitted more from the Refs Officiating in England - The Links i stipulated on the previous page are good enuf to serve as Evidences.

StarBoard:
So for all the foaming of the mouth that you've been forming, it's this weak, iresponse you got as a defense?
You're not even worth the argument at all, noise-maker.


Hypocritical.
elampiro stated that the 2010 title you won was down to a bad call at OT by Mike Dean.
Martin Atkinson has done you favors in the past against us, and Spurs have suffered in Chelsea's hands as regards bad calls.
So what exactly is your banal and deluded point, blue muppet?

I think you're a more sophisticated 1025 sha. The only distinguishing feature between you two moths is the color in which you type your rubbish.

dayokanu:


What controversy was in the Bayern win?

coogar:

that's the same barcelona - the greatest football team on the planet. which team hasn't barca beaten in the years between 2009 and 2012(guardiola years)? they are so excellent the bulk of that team won the world cup, won 2 euro championships back to back.......

can i also remind you united beat chelsea home and away in the 2011 champions league. let me guess - it was howard webb that officiated the quarter-final tie of that year's champions league!

El Guapo:
You guys deserved the Win - Goin' by the Lacklustre display we putted up.

Same great Barcelona that we'd keep at Bay when we Square up for a showdown? We really play to our strength Coog, never waiting on cheap Penalties!

Cared to check the EPL team with most PK this term? I've not checked, but am certain u folks are there in ur Place.

El Guapo:

You guys deserved the Win - Goin' by the Lacklustre display we putted up.

Same great Barcelona that we'd keep at Bay when we Square up for a showdown? We really play to our strength Coog, never waiting on cheap Penalties!

Cared to check the EPL team with most PK this term? I've not checked, but am certain u folks are there in ur Place.

elampiro:

Man United did not also wait for penalties to beat Barca. We beat then from a perfect Paul Scholes' strike. Get that right.

dayokanu:

So which team beat Barca on penalties