StarBoard:
One mumu noted for copy-and-pasting who wants to be heard by all means.
@Mancs (minus that tapeworm called elampiro)
Truth is, on a trophy level, Bayern are ahead of us.
Let's not argue over the facts.
They've won more than us.
We haven't done enough in Europe for a club of our stature. It's that simple.

All these arguments about class and being the biggest sporting brand do not hold water like a sieve.

SailorXY:
I stumbled on the game just as it was about to kick off on SS3 & decided to see for myself first hand, so based on the game & the little I saw from the first leg of same match-up;
1. Zaha is a natural talent who is still very raw
2. Zaha has got pace to rival Antonio Valencia himself
3. Zaha has a terrible short pass accuracy
4. Zaha got good tricks & his left side is just as good as his right side
5. Zaha does a little bit more than he should many times
6. Zaha is a tad inexperienced
7. Zaha is akin to Nani in terms of tracking back & putting his defensive shift
8. Zaha may need some time before he is able to displace any winger on the United payroll at the moment
9. Zaha has got a little bit of the ego issues
10. Zaha, with the proper grooming, will be as good as Nani but on a consistent level *which is world class tbh*

coogar:

how have they won more than us? let's lay down the trophies each club has won pound for pound. the 3 CL trophies they won in the 70s are a joke as far as i am concerned. i have posted the "official" trophies both clubs have won and united is way ahead of bayern. it's not even funny!

in case you missed it, here it is...

[img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1122346_clubs_jpgb91c64bf151d01cf3464dd158837ebcd[/img]

elampiro:

You dull ninny fat mumu ode, can't you see I have written than I have copied and pasted? Can't you see where I gave statistical analysis. Copy and paste is just to give club news. It pains you because all you do is to argue.

I argue because I won't let anyone tell me playing for Man U is a step down in class. Which is not true.

StarBoard:
Take away the Community/Charity shields and let's see how many trophies we got.

debosky: ^^ Make sure you remove the DFB-Ligapokal and DFL-supercup trophies from the butt munchers' total as well.

debosky: ^^ Make sure you remove the DFB-Ligapokal and DFL-supercup trophies from the butt munchers' total as well.

StarBoard:
Take away the Community/Charity shields and let's see how many trophies we got.

coogar:

why should we take away the community shields when you have to win a league title/FA cup to even play in the competition? you are comparing a one-man league to a super-competitive league like the english league?

celtic have won the scottish league 44 times, won their FA cup 36 times - they must be better than bayern and barcelona. let's assume for a second that bayern are in the premier league, would they have won the league 23 times? how can anyone compare a league where the best team has won it 20 times in 150 seasons to the one that the best team had won it 23 times in 50 seasons?

dayokanu:
If Bayern had been in the EPL for 150yrs, they would have won the league 40 times at least.
Which is evident by how dominant they are in Europe

When Celtic won 44 titles, How many did they win in Europe which is the leveller?

The continent is the leveller and Bayern leads with 7 trophies to Man Utds 4
If Bayern comes to the EPL it would also become a 1 team league

coogar:

why should we take away the community shields when you have to win a league title/FA cup to even play in the competition? you are comparing a one-man league to a super-competitive league like the english league? you should start supporting bayern too or better still, we should take out supercup/intercontinental cup victories cos they are meaningless.

celtic have won the scottish league 44 times, won their FA cup 36 times - they must be better than bayern and barcelona. let's assume for a second that bayern are in the premier league, would they have won the league 23 times? how can anyone compare a league where the best team has won it 20 times in 150 seasons to the one that the best team had won it 23 times in 50 seasons?

StarBoard:
Because community shields are one-offs and not actually competitions in every sense of the word.
I can't support Bayern because they win trophies. But I have to admit when someone is better.
Besides, I wouldn't want to go into the League thing. Europe is where I think you measure up.
Bayern have won all European trophies on show past and present. United haven't. Simples.

dayokanu: When Liverpool was dominant in the league they won 4 CL titles When Man Utd became dominant they won 2

If Bayern was in the EPL, They would have dominated all through and would make the league a one team league.
Bayern 7 European titles, Man Utd 4 European titles.
That says it all

StarBoard: Because community shields are one-offs and not actually competitions in every sense of the word.
I can't support Bayern because they win trophies. But I have to admit when someone is better.
Besides, I wouldn't want to go into the League thing. Europe is where I think you measure up.
Bayern have won all European trophies on show past and present. United haven't. Simples.

coogar:

liverpool have won all european trophies on show and they have not won their league in 24 years. that's how difficult the english league is......

dayokanu:
Stop lying
Liverpool never won the Cup Winners Cup

dayokanu:
Are you prepared for the retardded retort he would give you? Maybe the weak league was why Bayern won 5 CL titles and have played 10 finals

Let him remove Worthnothing, Community Shields and Milk Cups and see what he has

dayokanu: Keep telling that to yourself.
I am sure to you Swansea is better than Madrid sef
Show us your 5 CL trophies and we can have a discussion

coogar:

hahahaha, here come the ebonics.....

dayo, i am better at arguing than you do - see how i used liverpool's 5 CL titles to destroy your argument. biko, quit your retardëd logic, i would go 3 steps further to put a nail in your coffin......

ac milan have 7 CL titles and they have only won their league 18 times. are bayern better than milan? christ, i am such a genius when i am in the zone. i have just put dayo in a box - you can start callling him dayo achebe!

dayokanu:

We are saying who is the better club, You keep winning the argument and Class while we keep winning the trophies

Its a win-win for both. You win your seasonal targets which are class NYSE and arguments and we win Trophies

Everyone wins something

dayokanu:

We are saying who is the better club, You keep winning the argument and Class while we keep winning the trophies

Its a win-win for both. You win your seasonal targets which are class NYSE and arguments and we win Trophies

Everyone wins something

Emperoh:
Dayo, i don't expect you to give in this way. . . . .come on!!

Fussbot: Dayo please answer coogar na

debosky: This might be a personal opinion, but I hold the CL trophies won over 30 years ago in lower regard to those won more recently. Anything before 1980 should be classed differently for historical reasons IMO. It is far more difficult to win CL trophies in quick succession in the modern era than it has ever been.

In the modern era, Bayern and United have only won the CL twice - on that measure they are at par at best.

dayokanu: It's obvious to any two year old that teams In the same league are measured by the league titles and teams in different league by the continental trophies

Screwface: Ok. Can this Bayernsliga striiiper take some chill pill and leave this thread already?? Like, hello?! It says "Manchester United FAN thread" Too hard to decipher?

Champions of Europe, duely acknowledged and highly deserved, but am thinking you lot should have a thread where you gloat over this achievement. Why bore us with this unneccessary arguments, bikonu?

For Hitler's sake, get off this thread joor! You bore the devil outa me!

debosky: This might be a personal opinion, but I hold the CL trophies won over 30 years ago in lower regard to those won more recently. Anything before 1980 should be classed differently for historical reasons IMO. It is far more difficult to win CL trophies in quick succession in the modern era than it has ever been.

In the modern era, Bayern and United have only won the CL twice - on that measure they are at par at best.

coogar:

liverpool have won all european trophies on show and they have not won their league in 24 years. that's how difficult the english league is......

coogar:

celtic have won the scottish league 44 times, won their FA cup 36 times - they must be better than bayern and barcelona. let's assume for a second that bayern are in the premier league, would they have won the league 23 times? how can anyone compare a league where the best team has won it 20 times in 150 seasons to the one that the best team had won it 23 times in 50 seasons?

coogar:
let's look at the latest twist in your debate - teams from different leagues should be measured by continental trophies. in other words, liverpool are better than bayern?!