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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 4:22pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
airmark:Yes because a winner hasn't been decided yet, Give me Alonso's ballon d or worthy impact You this man, Abi shey you think say na Headies be this 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:22pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
airmark: Does the conte you hype so well knows what the atmosphere in a UCL semifinals looks like? Mancini is there taking italy to the finals of euro 2020 with some good football,the one which conte with all his noise couldn't in 2016 . 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:31pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
handelex: Mourinho. Now answer mine. Who can be rated best in their stint in Man United? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kushercain: 4:50pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
popizaino: No be Chelsea fan you be? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:55pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
kushercain: Those wey dey slander Jorginho Mount Harvetz, Werner no be Chelsea fans dem be? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:59pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
timbros:It's subjective cos all of them failed for why they were employed barring Ole who's yet to be sacked so far. I'll give Gaal and Jose the same rating during their stints at United. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:04pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kushercain: 5:09pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
raumdeuter: But calling Lampard 'lampfraud' no follow at all. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:11pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
kushercain: All the other Chelsea players wey supposed Chelsea fans don call fraud nko? Personally for Chelsea I dont think Lampard the player was a fraud, I think Lampard the coach is a fraud though 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 5:13pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:14pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
handelex: OK. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 5:20pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:41pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Kilishihunter: OK. You can only deceive yourself. ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 5:46pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
“There are coaches in the history of the club who cannot be compared to anyone. Here we are talking about [former Roma bosses Nils] Liedholm or [Fabio] Capello, don’t compare them. At Inter don’t compare anyone to me or Herrera: you can’t.” Jose Mourinho 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:50pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
popizaino: Stop making reckless posts, like Copa America matches have at least one foul every 2 mins. We are not in your village. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:00pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
raumdeuter: This wrong and inaccurate. The Ivory Coast team that Super Eagles floored in the semifinals in 2013 would have floored Kanus SuperEagles handsomely. The change in structure was a combative midfield with Mikel supported by Onazi and Mba adding legs to that midfield. Also wingers that hustled all the way whereas Kanu would be playing with a two midfielder setup (one of which is Okocha who won't contribute defensively) and the likes of Utaka on the wing who won't hustle back as well as Moses. The change to a solid structure is what ensured that Super Eagles win with lesser players. Secondly, every successful team from 2004 (Lampards first tournament) played with a 3 midfielder setup. Both Greece and Portugal in 2004 final, France and Italy in 2006 final, Spain and Germany in 2008 final, Holland and Spain in 2010 final, Italy and Spain in 2012 final. There is literally no record of a winning team playing 4-4-2 which England persisted with until 2012. You have Gerrard out of position as a DM, Lampard out of position as a CM, Scholes out of position as a LW. You can blame it on Beckham or poor management but the fact is the conditions and structure were not there for that team's success. Lastly, structure or lack of it is enough to turn a group of good players into shït, or a group of average players into winners. You can see what happened to Real Madrid Galacticos when a DM Makelele was withdrawn from their structure and they became whipping boys. You can equate England team of then to the Galacticos, just big names without any midfield structure. If I ask you the difference between Harry Kewell and Didi Hamman on paper, you will say Harry Kewell was the better player or hardly any difference. Harry Kewell was flying in UCL with Leeds while Didi Hamman was an average Joe with Newcastle. Yet the decision to play Harry Kewell in 2005 UCL final had Liverpool midfield overrun and 3-0 down, while subbing him out for Hamman gave Liverpool backbone and provided the platform for them to bring the game back to 3-3. This is how structure and organisation trumps big names on paper. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 6:04pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Ibime:Italy and France both played 4-4-2. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:07pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Expert17: What if I told you that Eibar and co were not always in the top flight while Barca meets Athletico and co more frequently in UCL and Kings Cup? 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:10pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Trevor012: Pirlo, Perotta and Gattuso makes how many CMs? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 6:12pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Ibime: Perrotta was used as a left winger with the Italian national team under Lippi. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:16pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Expert17: How about you drop the number of games he has played against those teams? 12 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:21pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Ibime: Lampard Gerrard Scholes(Hargreaves) How many CMs? Similar to how other teams played CMs in wide position to make them cover the middle Below is Italy formation in 2012, using 2 strikers and their CMs in middle similar to what England did with their 442 in 2004 2006 and 2010 5 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:59pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Trevor012: Did De Rossi also play left wing when he replaced him? Don't be fooled by what those Italians put down on paper. All their tactics equates to 3 men in the middle, and definitely when Pirlo is playing, they don't leave him with only one CM partner. Totti will be on the left and Perrotta neatly tuck into the middle. That nigga play left wing less than Matuidi did for France at the last World Cup 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:01pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Hargreaves playing is the only tournament where they looked stable and could have won that tournament, just unlucky to go out to Portugal on penalties. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:04pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Ibime:Still Italy and France played 4-4-2 in 2006 final so your previous post was wrong. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:05pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:07pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Trevor012: We have dealt with Italy, now tell me how France played 4-4-2? Makelele, Vieira, Malouda, Ribery, Zidane and Henry was their midfield to forward. Where is the 4-4-2 in that? Please don't pull screenshots which are inaccurate. That was a 4-2-3-1 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:08pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Ibime: England was playing at least 3 CMs, In 2010 they even played Barry, Milner Lampard and Gerrard |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:10pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Ibime:So we should believe you because you are accurate ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:13pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
raumdeuter: They were playing a traditional 4-4-2. Milner only converted to CM in the last 4 years and was an out and out winger then hugging the touchline, likewise Gerrard was hugging the touchline. More important is the placement of the strikers with Defoe and Rooney way up the pitch. It's easy to twist it one way but everything boils down to the coaches instruction. If the coach had said Rooney drop to the right and Gerrard tuck in, you can make that claim but those watching live know the structure they are playing with |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:17pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Trevor012: Just help me arrange the players into a 4-4-2. It shouldn't be hard. Makelele, Vieira, Malouda, Ribery, Zidane and Henry. Let me help you: __________Makelele_____Vieira Ribery________Zidane__________Malouda ______________Henry___________ I'm interested in how you will arrange this to 4-4-2 It is a common thing for team sheets to misrepresent the coaches actual setup so let's see your own interpretation 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:19pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Ibime: 1 Like
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