Ibime:


They were playing a traditional 4-4-2. Milner only converted to CM in the last 4 years and was an out and out winger then hugging the touchline, likewise Gerrard was hugging the touchline.

More important is the placement of the strikers with Defoe and Rooney way up the pitch.

It's easy to twist it one way but everything boils down to the coaches instruction. If the coach had said Rooney drop to the right and Gerrard tuck in, you can make that claim but those watching live know the structure they are playing with

England had multiple coaches and they all gave the same faulty instruction or Lampard and co were just too useless to play and win for the National team

Erikson McLaren Capello Hodgson all didnt know how to position players on the field? Did the coach instruction also lead to Lampard take the most shots and couldnt score 1 goal?

Trevor012:
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Hahahaha. Zidane as second striker. No wonder Zidane was running the midfield. It's a thin line between AM and second striker and complete misrepresentation to claim Zidane was playing striker in that tournament.

Notice two solid DMs with Zidane at AM.

This is structure, not asking Gerrard to play DM and Lampard to play CM with two strikers way up the pitch.

airmark:


Stop making reckless posts, like Copa America matches have at least one foul every 2 mins. We are not in your village.

Ok .

raumdeuter:


England had multiple coaches and they all gave the same faulty instruction or Lampard and co were just too useless to play and win for the National team

Erikson McLaren Capello Hodgson all didnt know how to position players on the field? Did the coach instruction also lead to Lampard take the most shots and couldnt score 1 goal?

You can as well ask what these coaches did after their England career.

So far none of these coaches were able to play a 3 man central midfield apart from when Hargreaves was fit in 2006, I know where the fault lies because I have seen Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard thrive in such formations for their club and never saw Benitez dragging Gerrard to play DM which is against his natural game, nor Chelsea coach dragging Lampard to play in a two man midfield, nor Sir Alex putting Scholes on left wing. It's a group of too many Chiefs, not enough Indians and thats why they flopped, just like Galacticos did after Makelele left.

Ibime:


Hahahaha. Zidane as second striker. No wonder Zidane was running the midfield. It's a thin line between AM and second striker and complete misrepresentation to claim Zidane was playing striker in that tournament.

Notice two solid DMs with Zidane at AM.

This is structure, not asking Gerrard to play DM and Lampard to play CM with two strikers way up the pitch.

Oga I agree with you on this, without a good structure a team full of world class talents will lose to a team with a better structure. An example of this was Lyon vs ManCity in 2020, and France vs Switzerland in this Euro.

Ibime:


Hahahaha. Zidane as second striker. No wonder Zidane was running the midfield. It's a thin line between AM and second striker and complete misrepresentation to claim Zidane was playing striker in that tournament.

Notice two solid DMs with Zidane at AM.

This is structure, not asking Gerrard to play DM and Lampard to play CM with two strikers way up the pitch.

Yes zidane as a supporting striker. I can bring another publication too

Ibime:


You can as well ask what these coaches did after their England career.

So far none of these coaches were able to play a 3 man central midfield apart from when Hargreaves was fit in 2006, I know where the fault lies because I have seen Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard thrive in such formations for their club and never saw Benitez dragging Gerrard to play DM which is against his natural game, nor Chelsea coach dragging Lampard to play in a two man midfield, nor Sir Alex putting Scholes on left wing. It's a group of too many Chiefs, not enough Indians and thats why they flopped, just like Galacticos did after Makelele left.

It failed because Neither Gerard nor Lampard could ever really play all that well as central midfielders nor control possession which is why the successful parts of those players careers involved them having zero responsibility and basically being allowed to be glorified number tens. Scholes on the left wasn't really the issue. He played there for United on quite a few occasions when Giggs played behind van Nistelrooy. The problem was neither Gerrard nor Lampard were good central midfielders.

Trevor012:


It failed because Neither Gerard nor Lampard could ever really play all that well as central midfielders nor control possession which is why the successful parts of those players careers involved them having zero responsibility and basically being allowed to be glorified number tens. Scholes on the left wasn't really the issue. He played there for United on quite a few occasions when Giggs played behind van Nistelrooy. The problem was neither Gerrard nor Lampard were good central midfielders.

It's a fair point but not entirely correct.

Lampard played as CM when Chelsea were hammering Barca 4-2 and Bayern in the mid 2000s.

The problem comes with asking them to play CM without a specialist DM alongside them. Lampard can play with a Makelele successfully as he did many times on his way to coming 2nd in WPOTY. Infact he literally made WPOTY 2nd place playing in a midfield two with these two performances below.

The problem is when you ask him to play alongside Gerrard who is not a DM, so you have two players outside of their natural positions.

Typical balon dor discussion, everybody dey do propaganda and manifestos.
Last last na ballot box go decide am.
Blaaddy polling booth awards.

Amoto94:

There is nothing wrong in having plenty children, the problem lies in training them to become a productive and responsible members of the society. Population is a sign of strength when properly utilize, you will have options to choose from when it comes to different professions and a ready market to sell to when you produce goods and services.

a bike rider will have a higher chance of a better life for himself and his family, if he had a single child, He can save and send that child to university but they will have 4 and send the children to learn a trade

Having too many kids should be illegal in Nigeria, people are just giving birth to criminals and hooligans

Large population in a society that is poor is only going to lead to more crime, hunger and segregation, it's someone's daughter that becomes house girl

Jodera:
So it's Kane that dominated world football with his team finishing 7th shebi?

Even EPL couldn't even consider him to win pfa or fwa award, even pfa player's player of the year him no see(votes by fellow players). He finished trophyless, his team finished 7th(not even top4) but coincidentally you want him to win cos he plays in England or he scored man city and Chelsea?

I hear you

I don't understand why some people are sentimental with their opinion, Kane deserves to be a balor d'or winner if he wins EURO but Messi doesn't deserve it even if he wins Copa America? Kane who has not won anything worthy of note since he started his career but he should be picked ahead of Foden who won EFL cup, and EPL
To be sincere to ourselves no one deserves balor d'or this year except lewandowski or someone from Chelsea team.

Amoto94:

There is nothing wrong in having plenty children, the problem lies in training them to become a productive and responsible members of the society. Population is a sign of strength when properly utilize, you will have options to choose from when it comes to different professions and a ready market to sell to when you produce goods and services.

Only where labour is cheap can having plenty children be feasible for most of the population.

Oyinbo no dey born plenty not because they don't want to but because labour is expensive.

popizaino:


Does the conte you hype so well knows what the atmosphere in a UCL semifinals looks like? Mancini is there taking italy to the finals of euro 2020 with some good football,the one which conte with all his noise couldn't in 2016 .

Conte exited Euro16 Vs Germany only on penalties but he at least spanked out your favourite team Spain, while Mancini is parking bus against the same Spain to sneak through on penalties.

Jodera:
So it's Kane that dominated world football with his team finishing 7th shebi?

Even EPL couldn't even consider him to win pfa or fwa award, even pfa player's player of the year him no see(votes by fellow players). He finished trophyless, his team finished 7th(not even top4) but coincidentally you want him to win cos he plays in England or he scored man city and Chelsea?

I hear you

Dias PFA over Kane was a robbery.

I will remind you

Top goalscorer: Kane
Top Assists: Kane

E no easy to win one talkless of both at the same time. I don't think it's been done before, maybe Henry may have done it once.

If he come add Euro top goalscorer and Euros win, he deserves Balon d'Or.

Amoto94:
“There are coaches in the history of the club who cannot be compared to anyone. Here we are talking about [former Roma bosses Nils] Liedholm or [Fabio] Capello, don’t compare them. At Inter don’t compare anyone to me or Herrera: you can’t.”
Jose Mourinho

na that same Capello manage Madrid one season like that, come manage England one period like that

donstan18:
Kane should be considered ahead of Messi for Ballon d’or.

Na wetin person get mind talk...

The only reason that statement never blow up Na because no be me talk am, if it had came from me, you’ll see anti-British Nland pundits crying blood, saying I’m hyping English players.


But it’s now understandable because it didn’t come from me.

This statement is a bannable offence

Chelsea still on Haaland matter
Lots of favorable news, especially his salary, I just wonder how long the duration of the contract would be with a €150m fee, e go pass Felix own, he go reach 8years

Jodera:
messi didn't score against eibar.

1..More so, aside both Madrid, which other big Spanish team didn't he score?
2.. Messi scored against PSG, so I don't know what you're talking. Juventus is in group stage which necessarily isn't important cos he qualified from the group.

Your fraud basis has been proven wrong abeg.

So answer the question, what did Kane do at Tottenham?

Kane help Tottenham to qualify for Conference Confusion League.

Ibime:


Dias PFA over Kane was a robbery.

I will remind you

Top goalscorer: Kane
Top Assists: Kane

E no easy to win one talkless of both at the same time. I don't think it's been done before, maybe Henry may have done it once.

If he come add Euro top goalscorer and Euros win, he deserves Balon d'Or.

How many goals and assists does kane have for the year 2021? You can add his 4 euro goals too

Kilishihunter:

How many goals and assists does kane have for the year 2021? You can add his 4 euro goals too

Ballon d'Or results are announced in early December after having votes sent out and compiled since September. Your church mind should then tell you it applies to the regular season and not the calendar year

Ibime:


Dias PFA over Kane was a robbery.

I will remind you

Top goalscorer: Kane
Top Assists: Kane

E no easy to win one talkless of both at the same time. I don't think it's been done before, maybe Henry may have done it once.

If he come add Euro top goalscorer and Euros win, he deserves Balon d'Or.

Why I understand your point, but pfa have a certain standard.

I've never seen anyone given best player when his team finished at midtable or almost(you can prove me wrong). Kane deserve the pfa with his performance, no doubt, but his club undid him. It's not fair, we know, but it is what it is. If Tottenham had even finished at least 5th, it would have been better. But from 6th downwards, it's a no no at all

Even the pfa Kdb won, it's one of his weakest performances in years, but he won cos Kane's club fell below the standard for him to win it.


As for the bolded, even most reputable sites didn't list him among the top three power rankings even as England is in final. Messi, lewy dominates the top 2

Kilishihunter:

I said EPL because it's the most physical league out of the top 5, La liga focuses more on skills and techniques though some teams like athletic Bilbao, cadiz and sociedad tend to play antifootball most times, As for the Argentina and Colombia game, And for sure you'll see periods without fouls but this are the match stats below, ousmane dembele and current hazard wouldn't survive 7mins in that game

Whao, 47 fouls in 90mins, that means a foul is committed in every 1.91 minutes. (that's 114.6secs)
Not up to 2 minutes sef

Jodera:
Why I understand your point, but pfa have a certain standard.

I've never seen anyone given best player when his team finished at midtable or almost(you can prove me wrong). Kane deserve the pfa with his performance, no doubt, but his club undid him. It's not fair, we know, but it is what it is. If Tottenham had even finished at least 5th, it would have been better. But from 6th downwards, it's a no no at all

Even the pfa Kdb won, it's one of his weakest performances in years, but he won cos Kane's club fell below the standard for him to win it.


As for the bolded, even most reputable sites didn't list him among the top three power rankings even as England is in final. Messi, lewy dominates the top 2

Tell me who won WPOTY of the year in 1998 and who won Italian League player of the Year.

If I tell you Zidane was nowhere near the reckoning even in his own club that had Alex Del Piero as the top man, e go do you like film.

Football is not lawn tennis but at some point, people will use their head to distinguish individual performance from club performance especially in a season like this one.

Secondly, it's not like Kane was far from PFA. He came second and in the opinion of many, he was robbed.

Kane achievement of topping Goal and Assist chart is unprecedented. Henry is the only man who troubled both charts in history but I don't even know if he did both in the same season

Ibime:


Ballon d'Or results are announced in early December after having votes sent out and compiled since September. Your church mind should then tell you it applies to the regular season and not the calendar year

It was given seasonally only when it merged with FIFA's player of the year award to create the FIFA Ballon d or Since they've spilt, the French have reverted to the old format they used before 2010

MorataFC:
I don't understand why some people are sentimental with their opinion, Kane deserves to be a balon d'or winner if he wins EURO but Messi doesn't deserve it even if he wins Copa America? Kane who has not won anything worthy of note since he started his career but he should be picked ahead of Foden who won EFL cup, and EPL
To be sincere to ourselves no one deserves balon d'or this year except lewandowski or someone from Chelsea team

Well, most people I think don't watch copa probably due to the time it's being aired in Nigeria. Else, most people rubbishing messi wouldn't have discounted messi at all. It's just like this Euros, most people acknowledged havertz is a very good and talented player cos of his excellent display at euros. If he hasn't, perhaps people will still not really know the extent of talent he is due to his Chelsea display.
Kane haven't really alighted the euros till maybe against Ukraine (I won't call Germany even tho he scored). If he was giving man of the match performances so far, it would have been understandable, but no he isn't.


Well, you saying the bolded is like saying they ought to give a player from Germany balon dor in 2014 cos they won the world cup . Why Germany won the world cup, it was more of a team effort as no player was particularly very outstanding than the other. Same with this Chelsea team

Kilishihunter:

It was given seasonally only when it merged with FIFA's player of the year award to create the FIFA Ballon d or Since they've spilt, the French have reverted to the old format they used before 2010

Then it no worth am. This makes it the European POTY award that Michael Owen and Nedved used to win.

Na FIFA World Best be the Koko then

Ibime:


Then it no worth am. This makes it the European POTY award that Michael Owen and Nedved used to win.

Na FIFA World Best be the Koko then

It used to be given to only European players before they joined FIFA, but George weah won it, I think, Kane can still win UEFA best probably only if he meets your targets, but Kante dey sha, I don use that Owen ballon d or win hit many people when they say ronaldo is the first from an English clubside to win it

Kilishihunter:

It used to be given to only European players before they joined FIFA, but George weah won it, I think, Kane can still win UEFA best probably only if he meets your targets, but Kante dey sha, I don use that Owen ballon d or win hit many people when they say ronaldo is the first from an English club to win it

Not quite for Europeans only but you must play in Europe

2m euros?!

Which kind transfer be this?

Ibime:


Not quite for Europeans only but you must play in Europe

Yeah, but I think even that FIFA POTY would be hard for Kane to win,

Ibime:


Tell me who won WPOTY of the year in 1998 and who won Italian League player of the Year.

If I tell you Zidane was nowhere near the reckoning even in his own club that had Alex Del Piero as the top man, e go do you like film.

Football is not lawn tennis but at some point, people will use their head to distinguish individual performance from club performance especially in a season like this one.

Secondly, it's not like Kane was far from PFA. He came second and in the opinion of many, he was robbed.

Kane achievement of topping Goal and Assist chart is unprecedented. Henry is the only man who troubled both charts in history but I don't even know if he did both in the same season

Well, we'll see the position Kane will finish during the balon dor ranking. I'm hoping let England and Argentina win their continental cups, then we'll see where Kane will end

Ibime:


Then it no worth am. This makes it the European POTY award that Michael Owen and Nedved used to win.

Na FIFA World Best be the Koko then

Exactly, reason why I said lewy that won FIFA best have been justified for his 2020 exploits. Some people thought he's been unjustified since balon dor was scrapped 2020.