edicolove: I don't support the move and I have my reasons but I have been reading many posts here and don't see anyone advancing any good reason why the move is bad. All I see are reactions coming from people's perception of Dame and of course, many conspiracy theories. Can someone really tell us why the move is wrong. Abdusalami's wife was a chief judge and didn't resign when her husband became president. There is nothing unconstitutional about the move.[b] Secondly, saying the move is to chop more money is funny. She can definitely chop more money as a first lady than a perm sec. Also saying she can't speak english is also funny. [/b]80% of government officials in north east and north west can't speak as good as Dame. So please give us a good reason why the move is wrong. Not some flimsy one. Thank you

To add to what has already been said. Constitutionally you cannot chop more as First Lady since that post is not recognized by Our Constitution. But if you add a recognized "job title", you can proceed to chop as much as you want since all you need to show, in the current system, is that you had a legitimate job you could tie all the loot Salary to.

edicolove: I don't support the move and I have my reasons but I have been reading many posts here and don't see anyone advancing any good reason why the move is bad. All I see are reactions coming from people's perception of Dame and of course, many conspiracy theories. Can someone really tell us why the move is wrong. Abdusalami's wife was a chief judge and didn't resign when her husband became president. There is nothing unconstitutional about the move. Secondly, saying the move is to chop more money is funny. She can definitely chop more money as a first lady than a perm sec. Also saying she can't speak english is also funny. 80% of government officials in north east and north west can't speak as good as Dame. So please give us a good reason why the move is wrong. Not some flimsy one. Thank you

Don't mind them jare. She's a university graduate but they say she's not qualified.
I remember during obasanjo's administration, Ribadu was promoted from the rank of an assistant commissioner of police to an Assistant Inspector General within 6 months.
If she was appointed as a biology teacher in a rural community school, they will still complain.

Jealousy Go Kill Una!

http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/07/12/why-appointed-mrs-jonathan-permanent-secretary-bayelsa-state-government/


The Bayelsa State Government yesterday explained why the wife of Nigeria incumbent President, Mrs. Dame Patience Jonathan was appointed as permanent secretary in the state.

The first lady, who is an indigene of Okirika in River state, got her appointment letter signed by the Head of Civil Service of Bayelsa State, Mrs Gloria Izonfo.

A Senior Special Assistant to Governor Dickson on Media and Public Affairs, Mr. Mackson Iworiso said the First Lady got the new promotion [size=18pt]due to her long service transferred from the Rivers State Civil Service to the Bayelsa Civil Service.[/size]

Iworiso described the appointment as routine action in the Civil Service.

Also, according to a letter signed by the Head of Civil service said: “By the Constitutional power conferred on the state Governor, Hon. Seriake Dickson, in section 203 sub section 2c, Dame Patience Jonathan and Seventeen others were elevated to the position of Permanent Secretary in the State Civil Service”.

Dame Jonathan obtained the National Certificate of Education (NCE) in Mathematics/ Biology in 1989 from the Rivers State College of Education and a Bachelor of Education in Biology and Psychology from the University of Port Harcourt, Rivers State.

She worked in Teaching, Banking and as a Sports Administrator in the State Civil-Service. She was First Lady of Bayelsa State.

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Mrs. Jonathan is now the first Nigerian first Lady to be appointed into a position reserved mainly for senior civil servants.[/size]

However, 17 other civil servants were also appointed by the State Governor, Hon. Seriake Dickson as permanent secretaries.

The other appointees are Mr.J.E. Oye, Samson Ayibeboa, Mrs. Antonia Koroye, Ziwari Billie, Buruboyefa John, Mrs Dikuro Ayebameh, Serge Williams, Olu Kuruom, G.I.Izein, Mrs.Philomena Alodie, Dr. Omietimi Kojo, Ese Izonebi, Ohougha Maythias, James Clinton, Mrs. Linnet Tebepah, Moses Teibowei, Dr. A. Sanayi and Vivian Odiwei.

akthedream: Wonders shall never end...Beaf,are you dreaming?..Well you are just toying with your salary.

he has been substituted with J12

otokx: Bayelsa State has always been a huge joke right from the time it was created; we now know why Rivers State was not progressing much before now.

OMG!!! Na Bayelsa dey winch Rivers State be dat o

Okija_juju: I dont see it as a bad thing..

She is an Indigene of Bayelsa state, has unrestricted access to the president (especially in his most vulnurable state) and he is constitutionally within his right to do so..

It may be a political stunt, but still not unlawfull nor illegal..

Congrats Madam president..

I wonder what her minutes of meetings would look like though

First of all, she is not from Bayelsa State, she is from Rivers, Secondly a permanent secretary does not take minutes. u appear to be highly uninformed.

edicolove: I don't support the move and I have my reasons but I have been reading many posts here and don't see anyone advancing any good reason why the move is bad. All I see are reactions coming from people's perception of Dame and of course, many conspiracy theories. Can someone really tell us why the move is wrong. Abdusalami's wife was a chief judge and didn't resign when her husband became president. There is nothing unconstitutional about the move. Secondly, saying the move is to chop more money is funny. She can definitely chop more money as a first lady than a perm sec. Also saying she can't speak english is also funny. 80% of government officials in north east and north west can't speak as good as Dame. So please give us a good reason why the move is wrong. Not some flimsy one. Thank you

...leme tell you why it is wrong. Constitutionaly,before anyone is given the post of perm.sec. The fellow MUST have served in a govt office and should be up ² level 16. Now dame jonathan started work as a teacher,after few years became the marketing manager of a community microfinance bank in portharcourt.later went back ² gov office at 1999,she worked with ministry of sports,bayelsa till her husband was made deputy gov. Now tell me what qualifies her for that post? Perm.second have a very high educational qualities and not a political post Also,she is in aso rock with a very tasking post as "first lady" is she gonna cope withthe both tasking offices.is she the only one in nigeria.also is this a promotion or demotion?a president's wife now under a governor..this a set back in nig.politics,infact I term this"a thermodynamical rubish of a leader"

texazzpete:

Appointing someone who is not anywhere remotely qualified is what makes this a WRONG move. Even the Governor's aide admits that she was not nearly on the level in the civil service to qualify for this post. Someone who has been on 'leave' from the civil service since 1999 on a low grade is being made a permanent secretary and you're asking m0r0nic questions?

Like I said above, i dont support the move and I have my reasons. I partially agree with you. I say partially because according to the books, you have a strong point, but the problem is this kind of appointments have been going on in the north since independence. It is even worse there because unqualified people are appointed to specialised jobs and positions. A fresh graduate was appointed recently to head a department in a government tertiary institution in a northern state. This is not right and I am in now way suggesting we should do the same down south. But my belief is that we should stop this across board. It is a political problem which you cannot just sweep aside. I think we all have gotten infected with it. It prevails in every sector now. Even in the private sector now, people are not appointed on merit but on Nepotism. That is why I agree with you partially.

edicolove:

Like I said above, i dont support the move and I have my reasons. I partially agree with you. I say partially because according to the books, you have a strong point,[b] but the problem is this kind of appointments have been going on in the north since independence. [/b]It is even worse there because unqualified people are appointed to specialised jobs and positions. A fresh graduate was appointed recently to head a department in a government tertiary institution in a northern state. This is not right and I am in now way suggesting we should do the same down south. But my belief is that we should stop this across board. It is a political problem which you cannot just sweep aside. I think we all have gotten infected with it. It prevails in every sector now. Even in the private sector now, people are not appointed on merit but on Nepotism. That is why I agree with you partially.

The highlighted is not the problem. The problem is this is wrong. It is wrong because the woman in question is not just under qualified but unqualified, like the many before her that have been appointed in similar manner. Whether the north has been doing it or has not is besides the point here. These appointments are wrong whether in 1980 or 2012 and should condemned.

VolvoS60:

Aah. . . edicolove. . . still speaking from both sides of your mouth, sir?

Intelligent people have been putting reasons forward and we are all learning. But f00ls like you just blab because it is so easy to make comments on a public forum, hiding behind anonymity. People like you cant even address a gathering of five people. lol

edicolove, why are you deliberately exhibiting your crass ineptitude? BTW, what more reasons do you require?? You must either be bl1nd or stvpid, either way, u're d00med!!!

edicolove:

My number is 666. There, are you happy now? Did that give you 0rgasm? Now back to topic. Why is the move wrong? Am giving you the benefit of a doubt that you can respond intelligently and that you aint just an investor in "Critisize GEJ Nig Ltd"

Like i said....i do not have time to waste on computer programs....i understand you are earning your pay.

No right thinking human will attempt to justify what was done and there's no point trying to explain to you why it is soooo wrong.

By the way, the spelling is 'Criticize' and not Critisize. I'm DONE with you.

Beaf: Wrong move.

Et tu Beaf. We will soon withdraw your laptop and your eyes go soon clear.

this one na greed, make den give another person to chop also.

Can any Bayelsan be bold enough to tell us about her background especially her work history and educational qualifications. However, we must know that the post is political in almost every state in Naija.

What a senseless post.

A permanent secretary reports to the commissioner who then reports to the governor!

What kind of a useless government is this for goodness sake?!

jenuel: Can any Bayelsan be bold enough to tell us about her background especially her work history and educational qualifications. However, we must know that the post is political in almost every state in Naija.

Read the article.

Seriake Dickson and his head of service made a wrong move. Though people will blame GEJ,he was not the one that made the appointment. If we separate facts from sentiments,
1. A first lady can have a paid job,first lady is not a job
2. Fati Abubakar was a judge
3. Mary Odili was a judge
The truth is that Bayelsa Govt did a wrong thing by appointing her as a perm sec because in the civil service rules,someone on leave of absence does not get monthly payment,hold office or positions and does not get promoted pending when he/she is re-instated and normalised. I wonder why they did not give their governor the rules knowing he has not been a career civil servant.

Mr intelligent: pray, teach us how to discuss in a forum. Bl!nd hvngry sycophant!

edicolove:


This is not an intelligent way to discuss in a forum. This your cooked up forty laptop story is too lame. Get a more intelligent line. You lot will support Tinubu appointing his family members but say its wrong when Dame patience in appointed. Why the double standards then? Please give me a serious argument, not your lame conspiracy theory

Bayelsa professionals and the people of the state should fight against this.

believe gej will reject the appointment because nigerians won't accept this.moreover dame patience may not accept it.if she does,the next thing you will hear is GEJ is appointed a SPECIAL ADVISER

hercules07: Bayelsa professionals and the people of the state should fight against this.

I vote that. Nothing worse than continuing to be stabbed by your very own people who are supposed to help move your lives forward instead.

Super1759: believe gej will reject the appointment because nigerians won't accept this.moreover dame patience may not accept it.if she does,the next thing you will hear is GEJ is appointed a SPECIAL ADVISER

I don't think this is about [b]Nigerians [/b]but about Bayelsans. If the people really want Change, they will start by saying no to do.

Kobojunkie:

The highlighted is not the problem. The problem is this is wrong. It is wrong because the woman in question is not just under qualified but unqualified, like the many before her that have been appointed in similar manner. Whether the north has been doing it or has not is besides the point here. These appointments are wrong whether in 1980 or 2012 and should condemned.

You miss my point, I am looking at the bigger picture. I think the bigger picture is to address the Federal character mentality. I have always said Nigeria's problem is not corruption but the federal structure. After years of military rule, certain mindsets has been instilled into the average Nigerian. One of those mindset is that you have to give preference to your own no matter what. Now the problem with that is that we allow this freely in the North but attack it in the south. If we want to eradicate it completely, we have to eradicate it across board. I will give you a fact to corroborate what am saying.

Do you know what excalated the militancy in the creeks? Back in the 90s, militancy was not that cool. They were more like cults operating around port harcourt and going to the creeks to do Bunkering from time to time. The Dey Bam, Highlanders, etc. But something interesting happened. After the Saro wiwa crisis, Abacha decided to do a PR stunt. He invited many of these youths to Abuja to show that government was interested in helping the people of Niger Delta. When they got there, they were amazed at what they saw. They saw what oil money was doing in Abuja. Instead of feeling happy at the president's gesture, they became really really angry and when they returned back, they vowed they were going to fight to the end for resource control. From then on, it didnt matter whether any body was embezzling money as far as he is from Niger Delta, they will say, its our own. That is the beginning of sophisticated militancy as you know it today. If we must talk justice, then we must also talk equity. I will continue to take side with justice and fairness as long as it applies to all. Telling us we cant do what we see others doing is just wrong. I have never seen south west critics come on the street to protest against BH. Never! I have never seen them come out to protest against the north's unfair federal character leverage. I dare say that if GEJ was a northener. He wont get a tenth of the criticism he is getting from you guys. When Turai held the country to ransom, she didnt get this much attack. It is a case of many of you, south west peeps especially, being afraid of the north. That is my position.

edicolove:

You miss my point, I am looking at the bigger picture. I think the bigger picture is to address the Federal character mentality. I have always said Nigeria's problem is not corruption but the federal structure. After years of military rule, certain mindsets has been instilled into the average Nigerian. One of those mindset is that you have to give preference to your own no matter what. Now the problem with that is that we allow this freely in the North but attack it in the south. But the problem is that if we want to eradicate it completely, we have to eradicate it across board. I will give you a fact to corroborate what am saying.

Do you know what excalated the militancy in the creeks? Back in the 90s, militancy was not that cool. They were more like cults operating around port harcourt and going to the creeks to do Bunkering from time to time. The Dey Bam, Highlanders, etc. But something interesting happened. After the Saro wiwa crisis, Abacha decided to do a PR stunt. He invited many of these youths to Abuja to show that government was interested in helping the people of Niger Delta. When they got there, they were amazed at what they saw. They saw what oil money was doing in Abuja. Instead of feeling happy at the president's gesture, they became really really angry and when they returned back, they vowed they were going to fight to the end for resource control. From then on, it didnt matter whether any body was embezzling money as far as he is from Niger Delta, they will say, its our own. That is the beginning of sophisticated militancy as you know it today. If we must talk justice, then we must also talk equity. I will continue to take side with justice and fairness as long as it applies to all. Telling us we cant do what we see others doing is just wrong. I have never seen south west critics come on the street to protest against BH. Never! I have never seen them come out to protest against the north's unfair federal character leverage. I dare say that if GEJ was a northener. He wont get a tenth of the criticism he is getting from you guys. When Turai held the country to ransom, she didnt get this much attack. It is a case of many of you, south west peeps especially, being afraid of the north. That is my position.

What does ALL the rubbish you've stated here have to do with the appointment of our only DAME Patience Jonathan as a Permanent Secretary?

"edicolove: Now I believe you're doing this at a fee. Having to type all these to defend your slavemaster(s)just so u can feed? Poverty is indeed a curse!!!"

deshclones: omoh...this gej is really making reuben abati's job tougher and tougher....i really do not envy reuben at this moment...wetin he wan talk again??

LWKMD!

edicolove:

You miss my point, I am looking at the bigger picture. I think the bigger picture is to address the Federal character mentality. I have always said Nigeria's problem is not corruption but the federal structure. After years of military rule, certain mindsets has been instilled into the average Nigerian. One of those mindset is that you have to give preference to your own no matter what. Now the problem with that is that we allow this freely in the North but attack it in the south. But the problem is that if we want to eradicate it completely, we have to eradicate it across board. I will give you a fact to corroborate what am saying.

Do you know what excalated the militancy in the creeks? Back in the 90s, militancy was not that cool. They were more like cults operating around port harcourt and going to the creeks to do Bunkering from time to time. The Dey Bam, Highlanders, etc. But something interesting happened. After the Saro wiwa crisis, Abacha decided to do a PR stunt. He invited many of these youths to Abuja to show that government was interested in helping the people of Niger Delta. When they got there, they were amazed at what they saw. They saw what oil money was doing in Abuja. Instead of feeling happy at the president's gesture, they became really really angry and when they returned back, they vowed they were going to fight to the end for resource control. From then on, it didnt matter whether any body was embezzling money as far as he is from Niger Delta, they will say, its our own. That is the beginning of sophisticated militancy as you know it today. If we must talk justice, then we must also talk equity. I will continue to take side with justice and fairness as long as it applies to all. Telling us we cant do what we see others doing is just wrong. I have never seen south west critics come on the street to protest against BH. Never! I have never seen them come out to protest against the north's unfair federal character leverage. I dare say that if GEJ was a northener. He wont get a tenth of the criticism he is getting from you guys. When Turai held the country to ransom, she didnt get this much attack. It is a case of many of you, south west peeps especially, being afraid of the north. That is my position.

a) This has absolutely nothing to do with Federal Character. I have spoken against Federal Character myself, but I don't think that constitutes as much of a problem as Corruption does in Nigeria that I know of.

b) This issue is not to be compared with the appointment of qualified personnel on merit and on basis of where they come from. This particular issue here has to do with appointing an unqualified woman, who has been essentially a house wife for the past 12 years, to a position meant for senior officials, who have maintained an active record both in the state and their communities in all that time.

c) Militancy is still not cool in the Creeks. On Tuesday, I listened to Mr. Anslem John-Miller tell congress that the Militants do not represent the people of the land.

While the Amnesty Program could be credited for the reduced level of violence in the restive Niger-Delta, especially in the Ijaw areas, it is important to note that any peace recorded is temporary because the underlining problems of environmental devastation and economic marginalization that led to the crisis are yet to be resolved. Granting Amnesty to militants who engaged in violence and other illegal activities on one hand and, ignoring the genuine demands of the Ogonis who are peaceful and non-violent in their agitations on the other hand is wrong, immoral and unjust. It is an encouragement for violence and a recipe for further disaster in the country. It is at a point where the Ogoni people are beginning to feel that nonviolence campaign may not work in Nigeria where morality or world opinion means nothing to the powers that be, especially now that the Ogoni people are beginning to feel abandoned by the international community because of the interest in the Nigerian oil supply.

http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/112/HHRG-112-FA16-WState-MillerJ-20120710.pdf

That the federal Government chose to treat violent criminals with kids gloves, does not then mean that the people sanction these moves. We didn't get to vote on whether we wanted this amnesty to thieves or not. No, we never have a say in that, and I am certain now, more than ever, that those in Ogoni land would vote against it even today.

d) please try not to make this a south vs north issues. It is not that. And I can see from your various posts that you seem to have a thing against the North.

What a country! Everything is possible

DPJ: Honey, what did u thought that we shold done in order for us to bring attentions from Nigerians?
GEJ: Ummm! I don't know. I'm CLUELESS at the moment. Any ideas?
DPJ: Ok! i get an ideas. Picked up your GSM and call Dickson and told him to appointed me as P.A in your state.

what is jonathan thinking.this move is simply senseless.a first lady to be appointed per sec, it s a ridicule of the highest level.the governor has no clue abt wat s doing.

Kobojunkie:


a) This has absolutely nothing to do with Federal Character. I have spoken against Federal Character myself, but I don't think that constitutes as much of a problem as Corruption does in Nigeria that I know of.

b) This issue is not to be compared with the appointment of qualified personnel on merit and on basis of where they come from. This particular issue here has to do with appointing an unqualified woman, who has been essentially a house wife for the past 12 years, to a position meant for senior officials, who have maintained an active record both in the state and their communities in all that time.

c) Militancy is still not cool in the Creeks. On Tuesday, I listened to Mr. Anslem John-Miller tell congress that the Militants do not represent the people of the land.



That the federal Government chose to treat violent criminals with kids gloves, does not then mean that the people sanction these moves. We didn't get to vote on whether we wanted this amnesty to thieves or not. No, we never have a say in that, and I am certain now, more than ever, that those in Ogoni land would vote against it even today.

d) please try not to make this a south vs north issues. It is not that. And I can see from your various posts that you seem to have a thing against the North.

You are sure right on one thing. I have a BIG THING against the north because they put us where we are today. If you dont want to hear the truth, thats your choice. And it is still ongoing. Anslem John-Miller was speaking for himself. He wasnt speaking for Niger Delta. In the Niger delta, militants are seen as representatives of the people. They are not seen as criminals. They do not attack the innocent population. They can fight amongst themselves but they do not fight their host communities. I will trust a militant more than a politician anyday. Their goals and demands are very clear. They do not hide in the dark like BH. How many northerners in government are qualified for the jobs they occupy? Sanusi is not even qualified to the CBN governor job. So yes, it is about what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I will repeat what I said before, if you must criticize anything, you must criticize it across board, else you will be a wrong.