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Politics / Re: Abati To APC: Be Ready To Pay The Price Of Treason by arsenalwenger: 6:28pm On Dec 16, 2013 |
agbameta:How old are you? Do you reason at all or simply treacherous in reasoning? Can't understand how you think with the garbage your thought is spewing? |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 7:18am On Dec 14, 2013 |
JMAN05:Hope you had a good nite rest. Your latest edition of watchtower now described God as a spirit person and not simply as a Spirit as Jesus put it, how do you reconcile this changes and the reason for it? |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 8:52pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
truthislight:You have not answered the question whether God is a Spirit or a Spirit-person. Choose one cos they have two different concepts. |
Religion / Re: The Jehovah's Witnesses In Nairaland Are Cowards! Just A Simple Question That... by arsenalwenger: 8:14pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Yooguyz: Just a simple question that Emusan asked them and they ran awayThis is very technical question that no any JW can give a satisfactory response. |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 7:57pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
Yooguyz:I wont like to derail this thread. I think there is need to open another thread for JMAN05, BERNIMORRE, truthislight etc to explain this new concept where the JW now called God a spirit person. |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 7:47pm On Dec 13, 2013 |
JMAN05: God is a spirit person, while His spirit is not a person but an active force. So He can have a spirit.Fya, the bible never teach God to be a spirit person (the watchtower did). The Bible said God is a Spirit (John 4:24). Plain and simple! Do you read your bible at all? The difficulty JW have here is this, they interprete spirit as wind, so if they say that God is a spirit, they are telling us that God is a wind. So to make more sense, they have to put person after spirit. Can't u see deceit here? As a good english and bible student, i expected you to understand what you watchtower is trying to pass accross. Is God a Spirit or not? You can do the house good by given us a plain answer devoid of long and irrelevant post. |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 7:39pm On Dec 11, 2013 |
BERNIMOORE: it seems some people had ran out of gas! simple question, they cant answer, yet they call others gullible, Hisbluuuuuuud, arsenalwengerrrrr and yooguuuyz, im expecting this thread to hit page 50 with meaninful contribution, are you guys tired?It makes no sense prolonging this matter. Jesus' invisible return was not 1914 as being taught by JW. It is against bible teachings and against common sense. Relating Jonah's experience with failed JW predictions is deceitful and can only be used to hoodwink the gullible into accepting watchtower's failed prediction as bible truth. This is my humble submission and will not do me good going back and forth. |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 2:25pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
rabzy:This is hillarios, JW never predicted but expected. Dont come with another dimension, wait till this new view is published in the next edition of your magazine for real authentication. Please say something else. You can access the old prediction and teachings of the JW using the link below. The link has attached pdf which you can access and reconcile with materials you have locally. www.jehovah.net.au/classic-watchtower-publications |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 1:50pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
[quote author=BERNIMOORE][/quote]The prophecy of Jonah was for the pple of Nineveh, they got the message, repented and God didnt bring his wrath to pass. Jw predicted that the generation that saw 1914 will not die off till armagedon. The JW message was for this contemporary generation and most JW was expecting it fulfilment (they wish it had happened) and it turns out false. Any organization that predicted 1914 and still hold unto it till today, be it assemblies of God, JW, seventh-day adventist is a false organization, because it has been proven over and over that 1914 is false. Seventhday adventsit, whom JW copied most of their escathololical teachings, has discarded those predictions and moved on. Why did JW hold unto 1914 after it has been proven false? You will agree with me that 1914 is not the only year JW prophesied for an important spiritual occurence, the JW have equally discarded all other years as false, even though some of you dont admit making false prediction. I dont think it is ok to defend falshood at all cost, it is not injurios to admit mistakes and move on. As a matter of fact, watchtower believes that they are still doing research on the bible teachings, which means that some of their truth today might be false tomorrow. Watchtower history will proove me right here. |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 11:57am On Dec 10, 2013 |
BERNIMOORE: you admit that jonah made a false prophecy, and such felt bad that he wanted to die, unlike Hisblud that that was still battling with explicit evidence when it was clear that his case lack all the elements to even suggest warning, because it was very clear in a short quote "40 days nineveh will be overthown" jonah 3:4You are cunny and not sincere. Ok JW is now putting her shoe in the place of Jonah for their failed prediction. Jonah warned the people of Ninehveh of God's coming judgement, the people trembled, repented and asked God not to bring his wrath to pass. God listend to them and forgave them. Now my question is this, did JW pray that their predictions should not come to pass as the peaple on nineveh did? Will the coming of christ be negotiable, through prayer, as the peaple of Nineveh did concerning the warning and prediction of Jonah? Will God change his mind postponed the date of armagedon after a prediction had been made by JW? So if you try compare prophet Jonah with failed watchtower prophets you are wrong. You will agree with me that 1914, 1925, 1935, 1975 and 1914 where all prophesied as the time for the end of gentile and when God will take over the rulership of the earth from satan. Did that happen? You and i knw that it is false dates. So if all the dates prophesied are all false, what makes you think 1914 is not also false. Did JW pray that God's rulership on earth should be postponed just as the peaple of Nineveh prayed that his judgemment should not come to pass? They do not pray that his kingdom should not come, but they were eagerly expecting it to fulfil and turned out to be false dates. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 8:08am On Dec 10, 2013 |
JMAN05:As i said earlier, the trinity doctrine must be debunked at all cost by the JW (even if they have to lie against the Bible to achiev that), so the escape route is to turn Jesus christ to an angel (against Heb 1:4-6) and the Holy spirit to a non-living thing or active force (as against Jesus' own teaching in John 16:7-15). And this is what an average JW teaches as bible truth, thats terrible! I am very sure if WTS change the doctrine tomorow (as they have been doing) and tell you that the Holy spirit is no longer an active force you will flow along naturally. The implication of this robotic lifestyle is that you guys are not loyal to the bible but watchtower organization (you accept what they teach as truth whether they are right or wrong). On the subject at hand, it is quite simple that you want to relate your prophetic failures to the failure of Jonah's prediction of the destruction of Nineveh, though the events are in entirely 2 differnet context under a complete different dimensions and states. As hisblud said earlier, was Jonah grieve that his predictions failed, hence wish he shuold die? Did watchtower accept their failed predictions as their mistake? The latter rather choose to feign ignorance that they never made predictions, that they are not inspired prophets, that their members are over-zealous, thats Jonah also made failed predictions. The above is a classic case of superios intelligence against the gullible followers who cant question what a more intelligent master (watchtower) tell him. |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 11:01pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Yooguyz:Laffing all through. Thats the danger of a wired brain, programmed to think robotically and not logically. The key words truth and knowledge has always been misused at the expense of common sense. An organization made a prediction that says christ will return 1914, 1925, apostles with return in 1935, generation that saw 1914 will see armagadon before or at their 70 years of age, that is 1984. All this teachin were now considered mistakes except 1914. If the calculation that gave room to all those dates are now considered false by watchtower, my question remains why would the calculation that gave room to 1914 still valid? I think truthislight has been seriosly brainwasheD to accept anything from JW. |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 2:03pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
TroGunn: As our lord Jesus Christ said, at Matt 7:7,8 - "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened".The word of God is not dynamic or subject to changes when the light gets brighter. We are to increase in the knowledge of the word of God and not switching beliefs from one form to another. Christains have a traditional belief system based on the word of God, among which is the trinity. The trinity will not make sense to a Jw as long as the Holy spirit is regarded as a non-living thing by JW. The doctrine will not make sense as long as the son is regarded as angel michael by JW, all in a cunning attempt to 'debunk' trinity at all cost (as against the bibble teaching). So you are yet to fully understand how your organization operate. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 11:21am On Dec 09, 2013 |
JMAN05:I dont attach my loyalty to any church but the bible alone. If a church is preaching false doctrine i will leave, its not by force. A saying goes thus: exclusivity is the right claim when making a 'truth' statement. From your point of view all christian churches are worshipping the devil except JW that was formed in the late 19th century by Russel. The same organization that has jettisoned many of their biblical teachings (I am not saying xmas, easter or birthday pls, i mean core bible doctrines) replacing them with new ones. That have made many failed predictions but maintain only unbiblical 1914 as the sole surviving one. I have nothing to disprove again cos there is no any biblical basis for 1914, it was only conjured up by WTS to deceive the gullible. Many a prediction made such as 1925, 1935, 1975 etc have all been trashed as false. What gives you the impression that 1914 must be true when 100% of all JW predictions are all false. I like you loyalty, but there is danger in blind loyalty. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 5:30am On Dec 09, 2013 |
hisblud: ImagingYou are doing a great job but its unfortunate that you are dealing with friends that would have to get their confirmation from a certain quarter before they can choose what to accept or reject as Bible truth. Keep up with your independent learning. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Stoke City Vs Chelsea (3 - 2) On 7th December 2013 by arsenalwenger: 7:08pm On Dec 07, 2013 |
the_ripper3: Ooh Good Lawd, watever happens 2mao, let my darling Arsenal win by hook or crook. We must capitalize on this missed points.Na so bros. 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Adebolajo, Killer Of British Soldier, Says He Is A ‘soldier Of Allah’ by arsenalwenger: 11:07am On Dec 06, 2013 |
eluquenson: pls guys stop arguing.... did you guys really go through the news properly ...in the third paragraph, it reads. " Adebolajo has been asked to be referred to as Mujaahid Abu Hamza in court."...non of you guys cared to read properly before reacting.what the statement means is that Michael Adebolajo and co.are Christians but forced to be addressed by a muslims name so as to use them to further their blasphemy against Islam..is'nt this obvious?...this is exactly one of their plots to chatter the image of Islam and I challenge all of us to be logical and inquisitive enough to find out about the problems that looms in the Islamic countries and I bet that you would discover that its caused usually by issues of this nature...lets try to be objective in all we do.lets try to reason together as people created by one God.lets try to stop blasphemy and criticism and learn from each other of our believes cuz we kno very well that no religion supports violence even though some of us are tempted to consider Islam in that light because of the orchestrated violence prevalent in the religion...Allah (God ) said in the Quran that if u killed a soul its as though you have killed the whole of humanity and if u saved a soul is as thou you have saved the whole of humanity..how then should people kill others in the name of religion( Islam)?...they forced the guy to claim being a muslim so as to use that against Islam...one thing they failed to understand is that God has promised to make Islam prevail over other religions...may God grant us the understanding.Whichever name they choose to address him is immaterial, the fact remains that he was accussed or murder. We have many hindus in the UK, so you need ask yourself why the UK govt is trying to paint Islam bad, as you alleged, and not hinduism and some other religios group? The fact is that Islam or muslims are aggressive in nature, especially where they are in the majority with some other religios minorities. Check out what is currently happening in muslim countries. |
Politics / Re: 'Let’s Go Our Separate Ways, Form Separate Countries’ - Dokubo-Asari by arsenalwenger: 6:44pm On Dec 05, 2013 |
basithamsat: . Keep pondering, Allah(swt) shows him the right path.The right path to militancy, fighting the authority, killing, maiming and looting. Of course you knw it wont be possible for him to do all this if he is still a deeperlife member. To Islam, the aforementioned are normal. Thanks to that arabic 'prophet' (piss be on him). 1 Like |
Politics / Re: 'Let’s Go Our Separate Ways, Form Separate Countries’ - Dokubo-Asari by arsenalwenger: 1:42pm On Dec 05, 2013 |
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Religion / Re: Are You Immortal? History Speaks Out. by arsenalwenger: 7:45am On Dec 04, 2013 |
Emusan:John 8:44. Jesus has already summarized their lifestyle by calling them liars. A liar will never be consistent, he will tell you something today and tell you another thing tomorrow. If you catch him he will tell you 'sorry, the light is getting brighter'. A liar will tell you that christ will come in XYZ year. If XYZ year comes and christ never show up, they will tell you that he has already come, that he came invisibly. The bible tells me that God is a Spirit (not a force or active force) and anyone that worship Him must worship him in spirit and in truth. A liar will say 'no'. According to the verse Jesus talking to Elijah and Moses, a liar will say the event never really occured, thats it is a vision. So you can understand how difficult it is to argue with a liar. |
Religion / Re: Are You Immortal? History Speaks Out. by arsenalwenger: 6:41am On Dec 04, 2013 |
JMAN05:I wont honour you by going back and forth on issue that you have already grounded to take a particular position, tutored you by wacthtower. There are many bible verses and Jesus' teachings on the after-life. Since your Jesus (a fallen angel) and my Jesus (God's son and the savior of mankind after whom there is no other savior) are different, definitely there messages will be different. If my Jesus (God's manifestation in the flesh 1tim 3:16) teaches life after death, communned with old prophets (at his transfiguration), taught about the state of the dead (the story of the richman and lazarus), warned of the punishment for the wicked (weeping and gnashing teeth) while your jesus says 'no' to all Jesus teachings, so i dnt think i will keep honourong you with a response. |
Religion / Re: Are You Immortal? History Speaks Out. by arsenalwenger: 3:25pm On Dec 03, 2013 |
JMAN05:Human spirit survives after death while the body goes back to soil.. |
Religion / Re: Are You Immortal? History Speaks Out. by arsenalwenger: 8:23am On Dec 01, 2013 |
frosbel:James 2:26. Without the spirit, the body is dead. HUMAN BODY + SPIRIT= LIVING BEING. SPIRIT = LIVING BEING - HUMAN BODY. Ecl 11:5. Even the human spirit and the body are distinct entities right from the womb. Luke 23:46. The human spirit goes back to God after death. Gen 4: 8-10 and Heb 12:24. Even at death, the blood can still call upon God for vegeance or petition him. 1 king 17:17-24. God can return a spirit to a body and make the body living again. Act 7:59. We can commit our spirit to God at death, if we have the opportunity. Our spirit live even while our bodies are damaged. Matthew 17: 1-13. Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus and were seen by some of the disciples. These men died long ago before the incaranation of Jesus on earth, but their spirits appear to Jesus. John 8:56,57. Abraham, though had died long time ago, was happy to see Jesus' day. Where do they meet? The answer is in the scriptures. Exodus 3:6 and Matthew 22: 32. God is God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He is not the God of the death, but the God of the living. To God and Jesus, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (and many other faithfull men and women of God) are still alive (though physically dead in the eyes of men). I dont think Jesus has also been brianwashed to believe that Abraham and co are still living, though spiritually (cos God is the God of the living and this men had died long ago before God made that prononcement concerning them. The bible say that a carnal man cannot receive (or believe) the thing of the spirit, because they are foolishness (or irrational) to him (1 corinthians 2:14). 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: Are You Immortal? History Speaks Out. by arsenalwenger: 11:38pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
I know JW preach and spread whatever seems to be against christian doctrine as long as there is a single verse that remotely support their doctrine, even when there are other 99 other verses that solidify christian teachings on the subject matter. Well JMAN05, you as a JW, have been brainwashed never to believe anything or discussion that goes against watchtower beliefs or teachings. So are you ready to learn or start an argument, as a typical JW does? 3 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Cardiff Vs Arsenal (0 - 3) On 30th November 2013 by arsenalwenger: 6:39pm On Nov 30, 2013 |
yyb14: Ozil the king of assistsI am arsenalwenger. Mr Mesut, i need you assist Ramsey, Giroud and Walcot in my games against dry gin (chelsit) and man chity.
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Art, Graphics & Video / Re: 30 Most Powerful Photos Ever Taken. The Kind You Never Ever Forget by arsenalwenger: 8:52pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
skydeexie: These ones should add up to the list, 34 and 35. Japanese children found in the outskirts of Hiroshima after US forces dropped the atomic bomb.This is not Hiroshima but american invasion of okinawa during ww2. |
Politics / Re: An Open Letter To Governor Oshiomhole by arsenalwenger: 5:13pm On Nov 29, 2013 |
ronalmagic10: Some of you are just plain silly! Watch the video again and tell me what she was selling by the roadside? All I saw were goods that were still packaged. I don't think she was trading anything there. I know the place ( mission rd) very well and there's construction of road there with soldiers around to guard the white men. Not only did he say, ' you are a widow, go and die!' but he also said, ' your husband is the type that kill people on the road'. He said the latter when the woman told him that her late husband was a policeman and he just died recently. The woman was not selling on the road. Fact. So what was her crime?God bless u my broda. Most of the pple supporting dis evil act have never left Lagos before. Why compare Nigeria to UK or US? In these countries there is social security for the unemplyed, free education for less privilege, but in Naija na looting of the money that could have been used to help the masses. What the gov did is bad and anybody that support this act, under any pretext, hav no concience and i dont pray they be in the shoe of the woman. Where is empathy, where is love, why are human seem worse that beast? May God forgive us. The law of karma is real, all man will reap what he sow. Oshiomole, and his supporters, will still answer God's call one day, whether good or bad. |
Politics / Re: Panel Recommends "Administrative Caution" For Oduah by arsenalwenger: 11:13pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
ASL33: I wonder who made his dad technical adviser. Sacked person dey advice somebody. Wenger advising Alex how to win champions league.LWKMD. I cant stop laffing after reading all this Yoruba and Igbo commedians wey full nairaland. |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 2:56pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
JMAN05:You want drag me into an unnecassary stalemate by this post. Read 1tim6:13-16 and comapare it with Act 1:8-11 and tell me what you understand. Stop calling a white BLACK in order to prove a point at all cost. These verse you provided has no correlation with issue at hand (that is your 1914 discussion). |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 11:33am On Nov 25, 2013 |
TroGunn:No thanks for lying to me that christ's invisible return was in 1914AD. The crappy teaching I am still receiving is in christ's physical return(Acts 1:7-11). |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 11:19am On Nov 25, 2013 |
TroGunn:Thank you, so how do you relate your write-up with Act 1:7-11? |
Religion / Re: JMAN05, BERNIMOORE ON JONAH'S WARNING VS JW RUSSELL 1914 PREDICTION. by arsenalwenger: 9:34am On Nov 25, 2013 |
JMAN05:The basis of my argument is never to justify the exact date he was 'enthroned', even if you choose any date, other than 1914, it is still false. Jesus return will never be invisible (Read Act 1: 8-11 and stop believing all the junks from watchtower magazine). You should either choose what the bible really teaches, or what the watchtower magazine really teaches. |
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