stantob: What kind of prophesy is that? The prophet need brain examination. Is he GOD? even CHRIST HIS SON don't know talk more of a mere mortal.Maybe he's talking about those who will die that day,because as soon one die,that person's own world has ended at the moment.

guy are u sure these people have not set nuclear bomb to destroy the earth on that day?

ijawkid:

Lol...you be yeye boy....lol.........

So how then is it selling??.......

Are profits made??....

i cant be telling u all this; u know better my bros.

my inlaw once told me that if i pay my tithes God will multiply ur pockets, i will never fall sick, my children will be healthy blah blah... when i said to him, since u have been paying ur tithes, have u not been falling sick? have u not been taking ur kids to hospital? have u not been borrowing money from people? if this tithe and receive in many folds works, how come so many tithers are still in poverty?

ijawkid:

How much is the magazine??......since you say the witnesses sell there magazines can you please tell us right here and right now @ least the price of one of there journals??......

no fixed price... depends on the convincing power of the seller

truthislight:

good question.

I think he hates the witnesses because the preach and he does not.

I hope Yahweh will judge the same way that he does and hate all the witness for preaching.

The hate in him is too big.

The same person is carrying the hate to bible translations/translators and to frosbel that may even have conscience to hate the lies and fraud in the name of the bible that he loves so much.

do u consider what u do as preaching? it is called house to house selling of magazines. do u do ur so called preaching without dishing out magazines to sell?

for ur record, i do not hate u or mr. frosbel but i hate the falsehood u peddle.

truthislight:

do you take "Jamaican vegetable"?

what can be worse than Jehovah's witness' indoctrination?

truthislight:

stop making noise and stop condemning frosbel for opening a thread to express his views.

What then will you do to logicboy that also open a thread to say there is no God?

Develop a good heart my friend.
Peace

i wonder why u are taking medication for another person's illness. Go and deal with ur falsehood - JW. stop speaking for another person when u have not spoken for yourself.

[quote author=frosbel]

Sorry I cannot discuss further with you , see what fanaticism has done to your mind.

I pity your confusion.[/quote

did i ask u to discuss with me?
go elsewhere where ur wickedness is allowed. confused confusionist!!!

d..

truthislight:

dont you think you are the one passing your wicked judgment on frosbel here?

Of all the deceit and exploitation going on in the name of christianity on which of them have you seen and decided that it is a good thing to God and man to warn people? None.

Your interest is not on man and may not even be on God but mostlikely on the benefit you will get financially.

You are ok with all the fraud in christiandom today and any expose on the fraud and lies hurts you since it affects mostlikely your income.

You should be ashamed really.

Start standing for the truth.

Leave frosbel alone and dont pass judgement on your fellow man, as long as he wants to learn the truth there is no crime about that.

Why not you also open a thread and show from the scriptures what you belief is the bible truth also?

whenever ur wickedness is exposed by an independent observer u blame christendom or catholic. ok for ur information, i am not a roman catholic and do not worship under any denomination just like u that follow Charles and his wickedness.

i do not sell the word of God in form of magazines or tracts just like u guys that go from house to house extorting money from people in d name of contributing to the printing of ur wicked magazines. i do not ask people to tithe as that also is against God's word. so truthisdarkness, where am i getting the financial gains from? are u not ashamed that u condemn tithes but sell magazines to make up? are u not ashamed that ur opinion is informed by ordinary men and women who sit and make interpretations for u? dont even start cos u have a lot in ur cupboard

[quote author=free123]Isaiah 14:14 reveals Satan's grandest
desire, "I will be like the most High."
And with a little subtil perversion - the
NIV in Isaiah 14:12 grants Satan's wish!
ISAIAH 14:12: The KJB reads, "How art
thou fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER , son
of the morning!. . ." The NIV PERversion
reads, "How you have fallen from heaven,
O MORNING STAR , son of the dawn. . ."
The NIV change "Lucifer" to "MORNING
STAR" .
BUT WAIT. . . I thought the Lord Jesus
Christ was the MORNING STAR ?
Doesn't Revelation 22:16 say, "I Jesus
have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and MORNING STAR ".
The NIV CLEARY AND BLATANTLY
makes LUCIFER -- The Lord Jesus Christ!
WHAT BLASPHEMY! WHAT
PERVERSION!

frosbel:


what utter nonsense.

Tell me what is misleading in the NIV and I will show tens of things wrong with the KJV. Stop this cult-like and Pharisee-like behaviour.

There are many good versions out there, CEB, ERV,NET etc, and they are 100 times better than your catholic bible.

Be careful , by bringing the young believers into bondage with all this fanaticism you will have questions to answer on the day of judgement.

frosbel are u frustrated?
u still remain the most controversial person in this room. opening threads upon threads that will never add value to someone's salvation. u have led multiple to sin. u have led people to insult one another, opening threads that people would argue and tear one another apart. denying the deity of Christ and His preexistence, even when many verses attesting to that are staring u right in the face.

u have already passed judgment on yourself mr. frosbel.

wait, an exposition still on the way on NIV TEENS STUDY

aletheia: It is no surprise that the NIV is what it is. . .it's source is the Vatican via the corrupted catholic Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus.

exactly

Goshen

It takes reading a chapter to actually understand what is intended in some verses which seem not to make meaning on their own. Reading only a particular verse and trying to make something out of it could be confusing to some who have not read the whole chapter especially some lazy christians who do not study further after hearing from their pastors or leaders.

i can understand u properly but my case is against making God's word to say a different thing just to confuse people.

Barristers

what do make of these verses
Rev 1:17-18; Rev 1:8, Jude 1:25

BARRISTERS: free123

[size=18pt]where art thou?[/size] are you evading this question? as usual?
ok see it again and i and others are wainting pls

@free123



can you kindly paste(dont comment yet) what you found in these verses below, [size=16pt]strictly using your KJV[/size]king james version (be honest about it)

Revelation 2:1,3:1,3:14 and 2:8

im waiting your for response!

ur blood is too hot. dont u know i gat other things to do outside nairaland?

Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks.

i can only quote Rev 2:1
an instruction is given to John to write to the angel of the church of Ephesus that these things says the person that holds the seven stars...

i just dont know what u want.

can u kindly show me those verses that KJV confuses; just for knowing sake

Another version of the bible is now in the market. This time it paves way for gays and lesbians. This is what NIV could not give produce 100% but paves way for a stronger version that says it all. Ladies and gentlemen Queen James Version is introduced. This is d height of wickedness of those men that seek to tarnish Christianity.

They have all come out of their shells. thank God that King James Version is still there for God's children.

Well Barrister
My KJV says

Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come saith the LORD of hosts.

All angels are messengers but not all messengers are angels. This is very simple to understand.

there is no angel in that verse but in a haste to discredit Jesus, ur NWT inserted angel there to change the simple meaning of that verse.

worldly men trying to reduce my Saviour and King to an angel. Thank God KJV of the Bible is still intact.

Jesus is not angel Michael
Jesus is God.
Jesus is called God in many books of d Bible with simple and understandable language but men of T.Charles R. said no.

Bible never called Jesus angel Michael, NWT did by juxtaposing incoherent verses to deceive people.

Enigma:


From an online version of the Jehovah Witnesses' NWT

John 1:1

John 1:18

Revelation 19: 13


1. The red bold: why "a god" in John 1:1 and "God" John 1:18 when they are in the same chapter, within a few verses, and using the very same Greek words and construction? And why the second "god" in John 1:18?

2. The blue bold: why is "logos" translated as "the Word" or "The Word" and not "the/The story" or "the/The Mouth"?

that is what double standards can cause. jumping from one translation to another just when it suits them JW.

plappville:

@OP, this is a very Honest advise. If you have no hiden agender, take this above advise. Maybe you could have ur own Version who knows

Free123 Version

why not take the advice and do ur research on what he asked me to do. I have no time for that and u are not in any position whatsoever to tell me what to do.

truthislight:

read this.

He is on a mission.



well, we are getting to understand you better.

what mission could i be possibly on?

yes the word of God is very and should be made easy to understand but one should not truncate a whole verse just to simplify an already simplified book.

ijawkid:

SMH!!!!!!...........

Answer my question and stop acting like a child..............

I know u have a problem brought about by ur frustration. keep acting like a kid instead of bringing out what u know.

ijawkid:

I'm not showing any frustration here,I'm only trying to show you how jejune you are..........

I want you to go check up the original hebrew and greek texts to fiÑd out really if the above translations you've labelled ""frauds"" are actually spurious or not...........

Don't look at the KJV ,instead study the the originals.......
_____________________________

And it seems you know me very well............

1...First of all I'll ask you.....:::::: the NWT restores back the tetragrammaton(YHWH) in all the verses as it appeared in the original hebrew and greek texts...... how many places in the KJV can we find the ""tetragrammaton"" being used and how many times does it appear.??.......

Note:::::.....the tetragrammaton appears more than 6000 times in the hebrew scriptures alone...........

Good job. continue please

bring out what u know and stop asking me questions

ijawkid:

Instead of you to take us to the hebrew and greek texts of those bible verses you are here ranting about how the NIV is inferior and a fraud.....

I can percieve you are one of those persons who think the KJV is the only right bible rendition..........

It might surprise how the KJV is filled with so much flaws.........

My advice:::::.....go to the root words Of those verses to see if they are right or wrong rather than to come out here bleating...........the bible wasn't written in english so let's get back to the originals and confirm what we have now.........

why not start from what is wrong with the verses ur NWT equally butchered that were quoted above instead showing ur frustration and baseless comment

striktlymi:

I don't think the bible is the final authority.

what is ur final authority?

ijawkid

u can do d exposition of any version u found wanting and from the article, it is clear the version i am using

DanielNoble: If you lack understanding of the NIV why not ask other christians or meet someone in your church? Stop allowing yourself to be used all in the name of wisdom.human wisdom is nothing without spiritual insight!

no one needs clarification from other christians or church. NIV is clearly written and i dont need help from outside to know that it is a fraud