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Politics / Re: Between Obasanjo And Jonathan Who Is Uglier? by gadogado(m): 3:15pm On Sep 19, 2010 |
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Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan's Declaration Speech - Full Text by gadogado(m): 1:38am On Sep 19, 2010 |
you people are so gullible, great speech my foot. What has he done to suggest in anyway that he'll fight corruption. Goodluck has never won a political office/ never been elected on his own, he has no experience in governance. If you can think properly, then experience should count for something. IBB would be a better a candidate. |
Politics / Re: Ibb Interview by gadogado(m): 10:23am On Sep 18, 2010 |
someone pls tell me how to embed a video and ill embed the rest of the parts. Its a pretty interesting interview, you shouldn't miss it. |
Politics / Ibb Interview by gadogado(m): 9:08am On Sep 18, 2010 |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 5:04pm On Sep 17, 2010 |
Vavavoom: I dont have to be an "apologist" theres really nothing to "apologize" for. IBB is no different from any Nigerian or African leader. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 2:43am On Sep 17, 2010 |
most of the 12 billion dollars went into the development of abuja. Thats what our nexr president said in an interview. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 7:40am On Sep 15, 2010 |
@vavavoom again, just to add, as in my car thief analogy, the guy may not even be a professional car thief, he may not have even stolen a car ever in his life, but that fine day, he saw a car, no alarm, unlocked doors, keys in the ignition. And he said, this is surely God's gift to me, even though he knows its wrong, he knows he's not being a good Samaritan by driving off in a car that doesn't belong to him, he knows he's not being a good and responsible citizen. But he does it anyway. If you've ever seen money on the ground, picked it up and put it in your pocket and felt happy firm in the belief that God gave you the money, without being a good and responsible citizen and putting yourself in the original owners shoes (what if i dropped my money here, how would i feel if someone picked it up and left) and you never actually go investigating and hunting for someone that dropped his wad of cash (rarely). Why do we expect some sort of higher morality of public officers when they are simple men with as much weaknesses as anybody. My point being, never underestimate the length a man will go to justify a wrong that furnishes his self interest. (Mr. governors logic: Power belongs to God, God gave me power, God must surely want me to be rich, since nobody will say much if i take this money, after all, everybody else is doing it, its not just me) This is an underlying philosophical argument im giving you to put across to you the idea that there is no such thing as good governance without responsible followership. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 6:47am On Sep 15, 2010 |
Vavavoom: Elitist? no I just realize and accept that "individuals" are not going to change Nigeria's course, hell, even if you have good intentions, the office and all the pressures that surround it may easily corrupt you. I believe corruption is a systemic social problem that can only be tackled by building institutions that check it. Is the government going to build the institutions, hell NO. People have to hold the govt accountable by pouring onto the streets en-mass like they do in France. You expect the govt to hold itself accountable? (oya mr. minister of justice, prosecute your friend and colleague mr. minister of transport for corruption) you think he'll do it when theres no real pressure and when he knows people will only mumble, groan and forget *shakes head* reasonable fear of the people (masses) has to instilled in the govt. The people themselves must be the institution that not only checks corruption but forces/pressures the govt to act on their behalf by prosecuting their corrupt members. As it stands, govt doesn't fear Nigerian people in the least bit. I once saw an ordinary guy lay flat on the ground while simultaneously crawling in front of a governor to "greet" him as if it was an act of worship. How in the hell do you expect mr. governor not to see you as a serf with no honor whose money can be looted at will. Ask yourself this, and truthfully answer yourself, how will you behave in front of a governor, will your gestures send a signal to the governor informing him that he is alpha and omega?? People say the problem with Nigeria and corruption is "BAD LEADERSHIP" no, its passive foolish followers. Thats the problem. Its like if I have a car with no alarm and I leave the doors unlocked and maybe the keys in the ignition in the market, and i go off shopping, then come back and find my car stolen, then i utter "kai the problem with this market is car thieves" without apportioning even a percent of the blame to myself! do you follow where im coming from In America (a system i happen to know fairly well) If the media carries a story of corruption by a government official, that day, the phones lines of congressmen will be jammed, see pressure, from ordinary folks, left-right-center making demands that the corrupt guy be jailed. I'm serious, non stop ringing, congressional aides will tell you this. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 6:05am On Sep 15, 2010 |
Onlytruth: Thank you my brother. Simple logic, you cant have it both ways. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 4:06pm On Sep 14, 2010 |
Solomon227: Of course he has a right to be president. I respect that right. But he should uphold his party's agreements which came to be from a desire to ensure equitable distribution of power among the different interests in our country. Had Yar'adua not died, nobody would be ask him to hand over to Jonathan in 2011. Everybody would expect that he stays till 2015 then switch zones. But you're capitalizing on an unfortunate tragedy, see how dishonorable that is? |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 3:52pm On Sep 14, 2010 |
Solomon227: Call it whatever you like, the day you stop needing the Nigerian military to protect your borders and the oil in it from foreign invasion is the day i'll qualify as a beggar proper. Now, the oil is eminent domain of the FG and it allows the FG to meet its national and international responsibilities such as maintaining a military, diplomatic relations with other countries amongst other things. ME: My country is Nigeria and our number 1 export is oil. YOU: My country is Ijaw land, our export is oil, revenue from which we have to share with a foreign country called Nigeria. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 3:43pm On Sep 14, 2010 |
Vavavoom: This is hardly about "championing" ethnicity. Its about maintaining a delicate and fragile balance of power. With that balance skewed in a democratic dispensation, we stand no chance of developing as a nation. America is selling $60 billion worth of arms to Saudi, i read this yesterday, but the reason is (according to America) that the sale is to achieve the objective of maintaining the "balance of power" in the middle east. See how important "balance" is? The perceived imbalance of power was what partly informed Ojukwu's decision to secede. It can cause wars, political friction and over heated polity. Care must be taken to preserve this balance. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 3:25pm On Sep 14, 2010 |
Solomon227: I suppose running out of points breeds anger. The simple fact is there are what you call majority and minorities in America, its not based on what state you're from but what your skin color is. In Nigeria, its not based on skin color but what ethnicity you are. SIMPLE!! |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 11:21am On Sep 14, 2010 |
houvest: Nigeria is a plural country, so is America. But the fact is democracy is a game of numbers and majority counts for something. Minorities typically have less say, thats a fact of life. The single largest majority in Nigeria is the Hausa-Fulani. The three majorities in the entire country are wazobia. So these people will/should have more of a say in how things are done. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 11:07am On Sep 14, 2010 |
ELE-OVIE:No im simply pointing out the reality of the situation. Democracy largely depends on trial and error, we're a young democracy, you have to give us time to mature. Today if a yoruba person votes for his kin only because they share an ethnicity and then finds out that this same kin he voted for did nothing to effect positive change in his life or in his community, he'll think twice, the same guy will now decide to vote for a hausa man and he'll notice that the hausa man has changed his life and community positively, he'll realize that ethnicity may not be as important a consideration as he initially thought. This is how minds are changed, through trial and error, this is how stereotypes are defeated, it all takes time. But for now, stick to the reality so we dont inflame passions. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 10:59am On Sep 14, 2010 |
chyz: imperialist? no, im actually a nationalist while you are a "tribalist". I believe in keeping Nigeria united and strong. I want Nigeria to assume her role as the true giant of africa with the largest economy, largest military, largest population and eventually a dominant force in the international community. with those "largests" mentioned, no one can brush a 150 million strong Nigeria to the side. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 10:24am On Sep 14, 2010 |
Solomon227: Im merely giving you an example of "majority rule" as practiced in "near-perfect" democracies |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 10:22am On Sep 14, 2010 |
africanist: Ok so going by your logic (Nigerian being "a state of nations" If a foreign army, lets say the Ghanaian army invades Bayelsa with all its military might, will you expect the Nigerian army to defend Bayelsa or will your local militants defend Bayelsa from armored tanks, fighter jets, heavy artillery and war ships? Just answer that. since a nation is supposed to protect its territorial integrity, each "nation" in Nigeria (whatever Nigeria is in your opinion, apparently not a nation) should protect its own region from foreign invasion, right? |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 7:10am On Sep 14, 2010 |
houvest: Well, in the United States of America, we know there are four major groups that make up that population, the African Americans, the European Americans (whites), Asian Americans and Hispanic Americans, and Native Americans (American Indians making up 1% of the population) All these groups minus whites who make up more than 70% of the population are considered minorities. The first minority to become president in Americas 200+ years of existence as a country is Barack Obama. Ok, It is standard practice and a norm that Majorities have more say in any society since they represent a larger base within this society. When Nigerias democracy is mature enough, we can discard ethnicity and religion and vote for competence. Bit for right now, care has to be taken to preserve the delicate balance of power in the country. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 2:24am On Sep 14, 2010 |
sbeezy8: MKO won the north because he was in the SDP, the party of yar'adua senior, atiku, kingibe and many many others who agreed to support him after deals had been struck. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 10:35pm On Sep 13, 2010 |
chyz: Hope you know Kanuri's and hausa-fulani people love each other, they have so much respect for each other. It was the Kanuri that brought Islam to Hausa's. The acceptance is so deep and wide between those groups. Thats what you miss, what groups in the north "love" each other, you cant tell a kanuri man that h should support a yoruba over a hausa. You're a fool. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 10:29pm On Sep 13, 2010 |
Beaf: Everybody in the world would be corrupt if they had their way. Wasn't it Adam Smith that said self interest is the main motivator of human beings. Isn't it true that humans strive for self preservation more than anything else. Don't expect Nigeria to be Utopia or that there is some sort of higher morality that is expected of common men be it fulani ex generals, bush and cheney connected oil & energy tycoons that prompted a foreign invasion, western trained Afghan government officials, Pakistani military and what have you. What we lack are institutions that check corruption. We say nuhu ribadu instead of legal system as if the two are euphemisms. who builds these institutions, the govt? you must be joking, its the people, the ordinary Nigerians that must build it. This is so off topic though that I cant say more. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 10:17pm On Sep 13, 2010 |
naijaking1: Geographically, they belong to the north, their long term political objectives are not only compatible with the wider north but in line with the political agenda of the north. Bukola Saraki is a northerner, nobody disputes that but he's a yoruba. In the north, he is considered a northern minority. So are all those groups you mentioned, all are northern minorities. Minorities equally exist in SE and SW. You always like doing this divide and conquer tactic by extracting minorities in the north and giving the an anti-northern identity and attempting to make them believe that they have everything to lose if they dont rebel against the wider north. Ok, tell me, does a gwarri man feel more at home with a hausa man or yoruba man Do Igbira or Igala people identify themselves as Igbos or yourbas The south has many more minorities than the north, so if we start our own divide and conquer, we'll cause problems for you. better chill out with that nonsense. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 9:56pm On Sep 13, 2010 |
Ibime: Actually, the SE insisted on zoning, they first brought the matter up in the constitutional conference of 1994. The SE insisted and demanded that zoning be put in the Nigerian constitution. Abacha liked the Idea and promised to adopt it, he died, abdulsalami came in and discarded the idea of "constitutionalizing" it. However the party's agreement is between North and South as far as the presidents office is concerned. And everybody knows IBB's father is from Kano and mother from Zamfara. Well northerners know this, he's hausa/fulani not nupe or gwarri. Thats besides the point though. The idea of zoning is if the president is from a certain area, then other important positions in the legislature and beyond should be spread out to ensure equitable distribution of power. You know how they say in the west "the spirit of the constitution" this is exactly what you guys are missing "the spirit of the agreement" meaning the common sense and goodwill of the agreement. Hausas will feel betrayed if Goodluck stays in a northern slot. So let me ask you this, if IBB withdraws, will you support a candidate from NW and agree Jonathan should not run under the PDP platform?? PLEASE answer this. LOOK at the PDP agreement, all those privy to the agreement will tell you that what was agreed was north-south. They tried to say that OBJ should hand over to SE but they quickly reminded him of the AGREEMENT (north-south) |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 8:39pm On Sep 13, 2010 |
The agreement was that power would rotate between the north and south. This was the agreement. The northern caucus decided to zone it to NW since Atiku being the VP was from NE. The PDP agreement recognizes the north/south power sharing and zoning agreement. Rotation simply means that power will move back and forth between the two regions. Zoning implies the same thing. The idea is to "SHARE POWER" between our Afro Asiatic brothers to the north and our Niger Congo brothers to the south. Its really simple to grasp. The most apparent differences in religion and culture is between north and south, so both regions should be represented on interval basis at the national level. The idea is to give power to the muslims in the north who are genetically closer to North African berbers, nubians, sudanese, in some cases Ethiopains and Arabs. Then after they do theirs, give power back to the christians in the south who are genetically closer to the people found in coastal west Africa and central-southern Africa (Bantus) Very simple to grasp. You dont need to be hypocritical about something glaringly obvious!! |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 6:59pm On Sep 13, 2010 |
This beaf guy, it is in the PDP's constitution. Zoning is to be adhered to (political office is to be rotated between the zones) a) Jonathan himself is a product of Zoning b) His former boss (yar'adua) was too c) Obj was a product of zoning. If you belong to a party, then you should adhere to the rules of your party, you should abide by agreements cast in cold print and you must certainly abide by your party's constitution. If Jonathan insists on contesting, then he should contest under another party. That would be the honorable thing for him to do. You cant use something (zoning) to ascend to power then ignore it simply because you're in power. Its like crossing a bridge to get to the other side of a river then burning the bridge so no one else can cross. What honorable man rescinds on an written agreement half way through it? especially if that agreement has serious political repercussions. He should think about how his greed for power will affect others, how it'll affect the delicate balance of power in the Nigerian polity. So you sir, have it wrong. Lets keep to agreements in order to have a smooth sail in our national life and dis-entertain mutual suspicion. |
Politics / Re: Prof Abc Nwosu To Ndigbo On 2011 Polls: Abandon Zoning, Commit Political Suicide by gadogado(m): 6:45pm On Sep 13, 2010 |
you're a fool. Why not just tell the south-south to declare independence if they want to keep the oil money and not remain part of ONE country. Theres oil in the north too but coz you're ignorant, im sure you dont know about the reserves there. |
Politics / Re: Prof Abc Nwosu To Ndigbo On 2011 Polls: Abandon Zoning, Commit Political Suicide by gadogado(m): 6:34pm On Sep 13, 2010 |
MetalGong4: Thank you |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 6:26pm On Sep 13, 2010 |
not only is chief Raymond Dokpesi courageous but he's an upright individual with honor and integrity. Zoning was an agreement adhered to by PDP stake holders, why are you trying to betray an agreement? because goodluck is not an honorable man, thats why!! So if he an betray an agreement just for greed and lust for power, then of course he'll loot the treasury. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 1:04am On Sep 13, 2010 |
@beaf, I actually agree with most of the issues you raised. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 1:03am On Sep 13, 2010 |
Rubbish, you dont know what you're talking about? This resource we call oil belongs to all Nigerians. so I as a Nigerian citizen have a stake in all natural resources found anywhere in Nigerian territory not just oil but cocoa as well. At this point in time, oil happens to be valuable, tomorrow, it could be a resource in the north that becomes valuable. And all Nigerians will have an interest in the new found value of the resources. It is because of oil that the country left the other sectors of the economy to deteriorate so it was national shift. At that time (when petro dollars started pouring in) no one said that it was the exclusive preserve of ND, ND didn't even exist, no one said that the north should be excluded from oil revenue. Its now that all of a sudden, you're claiming only you should have access to the oil revenue. Like I said, if you want to keep all the oil, then declare independence. But as a country, all the resources, oil and others belongs to the entirety of the Nigerian citizenry. |
Politics / Re: Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By Dokpesi (Zoning) by gadogado(m): 12:30am On Sep 13, 2010 |
That was the majority opinion of the Nigerian supreme court when selfish Niger Deltans wanted to claim derivation on even the oil deep in the ocean. |
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