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Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 10:51am On Apr 14, 2007
I'm outside a polling booth with no activity!!!

Hence the question.

duh!
Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 10:37am On Apr 14, 2007
Has anybody voted?

What was it like?

What time did it start?

Are the pictures on the ballot or not?

Please tell us all!!!
Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 2:26pm On Apr 10, 2007
Opps!

Jimi's people have changed the page.
http://www.jimiagbaje.com/core/protect-your-vote

Used to say
1. Wake up early and get to your polling station on time;
2. Do not forget to eat before you leave home
3. Do not wear any campaign material otherwise you will be disqualified from voting. This includes campaign ringtones; put your phone on silent or vibrate
4. Queue up/Line up to Vote
5. Even if the queue is long, be patient and make sure you vote because your vote is your voice and your vote is your right;
6. Do not be disorderly
7. Do not quarrel or fight with anybody
8. After voting, stay until the voting ends – remember it is your right
9. Wait until the votes are counted in the presence of everybody – No “mago mago”


Now it says
1. Wake up early and get to your polling station on time;
2. Do not forget to eat before you leave home
3. Do not wear any campaign material otherwise you will be disqualified from voting. This includes campaign ringtones; put your phone on silent or vibrate
4. Queue up/Line up to Vote
5. Even if the queue is long, be patient and make sure you vote because your vote is your voice and your vote is your right;
6. Do not be disorderly
7. Do not quarrel or fight with anybody
8. After voting, stay until the voting ends – remember it is your right
9. Accredited agents are entitled to wait and watch the votes counted – No “mago mago”
Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 10:05am On Apr 10, 2007
Non Partisan Ways To Protect Your Vote From Election Rigging
http://www.jimiagbaje.com/core/protect-your-vote
Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 10:55pm On Apr 08, 2007

ok he was eased out of GTB, so what? maybe it was a difference of opinion or philosophy, you cannot simply conclude that it was due to 'non-performance'

and so what if he went back into paid employment? If one discovers that he should his calling after trying something else, I don't see any flaw in that.

and to further mention, even if he goes to another party (just as his principal Tinubu did) as long as he continues to do his duty, I don't see the relevance of your 'your money and our money' comment.

I don't have any evidence of any agreement with Afikuyomi, please show proof. very few deputies would not want to step into the position of their bosses so that is no big deal.

the fact that he would be replaced as MD of FA doesn't show he was incompetent either, new owners want to do things their own way, simple and short.

nothing said here has shown pedro to be unworthy, the only thing that can be said is that he has not been in politics long enough.

1. You have a point about the non-performance issue but the event happened. How you view it is up to each individual.

2. The comment about FP being on salary and him running his own business directly addesses the issue that he brought up about Agbaje's competence to rule Lagos after only employing up to 20 people, when FP himself has not successfully employed up to 20 peple himself.

3. About Afikuyomi, FP has not denied it but said that it was his right to attempt to become Governor. Again it comes down to the simple issue of "Is your word your bond" or do we need legions of lawyers to stand with us whenever we have to deal with you?

4. My issue is that integrity must be unassailable or don't make it your platform. Human beings are not perfect but those living in glass houses definately can not afford to throw stones.

5. What is honourable is not up for debate. You either have it or you do not. Just because one person does something and appears to get away with it does not make it honourable. At least it doesn't in societies that treasure honour!

6. I don't believe that FP is incompetent. I never said that. I just pointed out what everyone wanted to know, "what did Jimi Agbaje mean?".

7. To clarify my personal views on the issue, I don't believe that FP is the best person for the job (I used to!). I also do not believe that he is an honourable person that would make sacrifices for Lagos. I make this observation based on his actions while in government and on the current election campaign. His making issues personal with Fashola and Agbaje to me shows a lack of maturity and an absense of concrete ideas. The position that he seeks requires one to be able to serve the people not rule them, not mislead them. The person should be able to make self sacrifices for the peoples greater good. I do not see FP as that person. Hounour can not be bought. You also can not claim it. You can only live it. As Sun Tzu pointed out in the "Art of War", you profit not by denigrating your enemy.
Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 10:42pm On Apr 07, 2007
streetcyph:

@jaroojorro u don't mean it? these were the cirumstances under which he left

and he managed to gain employment after underperformance? LOL!

grin grin grin

You don't have to believe me, but please do go ask the people in GTB. FP was one of a bunch of senior management that were 'eased' out in the in 90's. It was a major event in GTB's history so there are LOTS of people in the know.

It helps account for the period between GTB and Comet Merchant Bank. Who sets up a company and then goes back to paid employment in Nigeria unless the paid employment holds better prospects than the one that they set up themselves?

Like you said, lets keep to the issues backed up by facts.
Politics / Re: Ribadu’s Tenure Expires On Sunday by joorojaara(f): 7:14am On Apr 07, 2007
There will be life AFTER Nuhu Ribadu

(I hope!!!)

cool
Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 4:50am On Apr 07, 2007
Truth hurts doesn't it!!!
Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 2:01am On Apr 07, 2007
Fac
streetcyph:

@hao62 you seem to be pained about something. why r u so bothered about this man? the hatred passion is too much. focus on your candidate's winnablility. refrain from bashing mr pedro from no reason. you are wasting your time questioning mr pedro's rock solid integrity. as in, it is rocker than olumo rock solid! neither can you question is managerial experience, for goodness sake your man has never managed more than 20 people, and he wants to be governor of a state with almost 20 million??   shocked shocked wonders shall never end sha!

the truth is this: this campaign is not who has the glossiest fotos, nor who has the most jingles, or the slickest website, or any of all this jargon agbaje's people will tell you. it is not about who has the most money or the most billboards and posters like fashola will say. it is not about who has abused tinubu the most, like koro will tell you. it is not even about some of the things femi pedro's camp will claim like this person has endorsed me or that person has endorsed me. it is deeper than you think.

come election day, it will boil down to who has mobilized the most people, and who INEC announces as the winner. fullstop,
sorry to say, but agbaje' and fashola'll prolly fall short on both respects.


and speaking of agbaje, my brotha, the difference is clearer than 7UP. pedro and agbaje are not in the same league.  agbaje should spend his time convincing the people why they should elect a man with no proven record of managing people and money on a large scale.


the election is 8 days away! the people of lagos have pretty much made up their minds as to who they want to vote for.


Pity Pedro's people don't focus on the facts.

1. Pedro has been a SALARY TAKER most of his life (GTB, Comet Merchant, First Atlantic, and now Lagos State included)

2. The ONLY time , in recent times, that Pedro was NOT a salary taker was AFTER GTB and BEFORE Comet Merchant, when he ran his own business that did NOT employ up to 20 people and eventually went bust.

3. He went back to SALARY taking and BEGGED TO APPLY with John Abebe (Stella Obasanjo's elder brother) and Company at Comet Merchant Bank.

4. So he has NEVER had to pay people from his OWN pocket just manage the payroll for other shareholders/directors/governors,   (i.e GTB, First Atlantic, Lagos State).

5. The cloud under which he left GTB INCLUDES non performance, as he was ADVISED TO RESIGN (and we all known that means go BEFORE I have to SACK you). Any banker will tell you (as will senior GTB STAFF) that when you are MOVED AROUND a lot as senior staff it's because management can't find a good place for you or rather you don't fit in anywhere and are excess baggage!

5. He was just about to be booted out of First Atlantic, after O'tega and Company bought into it when Tokunbo Afikuyomi saved him and presented him to Tinubu as a replacement for Kofo Bucknor. Two weeks more and they would have replaced him as they were busy replacing/placing senior management in the bank and he COULDN't stop them.

6. He talks about INTEGRITY but he goes back on a gentleman's agreement with Afikuyomi about not running and supporting him for Governor come 2007 (with friends like that who needs enemies).

7. He crosses parties to Labour but continues taking SALARY from LAGOS STATE  (your money, my money) because if he did the HOUNOURABLE thing and resigned he would have NO RELEVANCE.
Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 12:43pm On Mar 25, 2007
1. Fashola let's himself down by not being prepared for things. Reluctant politician or not, he is a SAN, which is a coveted position in the legal profession. He should take more time to be more professional about his running for governor. His performance to date does not do him justice. He really should do more campaigning on his own and not under the shadow of Bola Ahmed Tinubu (aka Bad After Taste)

2. Obanikoro seems to be making a last minute surge. Throwing off his "thug" image and coming forward as a man that might actually know what he is talking about.

3. Femi Pedro should not throw stones since he is reputed, by Jimi Agbaje, to live in a glass house, Ask Femi Pedro what happened to him after he left GTB. That was the only time in his life that he did not collect salary, and ran his own business (trading if I remember right). How many people did he employ? How well did the business go? In addition losing your cool on TV does not show that you can respond logically under pressure. And there is a lot of pressure in running Lagos.

4. Jimi Agbaje should stick to the facts as he has done so far. Being goaded into talking about a man's integrity is not the thing. Let the voters decide that. And let us all have the facts so that we can make up our own minds

Oh and just for the record I just found out that Bode Pedro has taken a sabbatical from school in the UK, since January, to help run his father's campaign and consistently writes in this forum under several aliases. Not a bad idea, but he really should identify himself, if he is running a transparent campaign.


Until next time
Politics / Jimi Agbaje Keeps Company With Clinton, Edwards, And Obama. by joorojaara(f): 6:03pm On Feb 28, 2007
Just came across this while trolling through the News on Google (try putting Jimi Agbaje in to Google News).

http://www.openpr.com/news/16376/Nigerian-politician-Jimi-Agbaje-Launches-Web-2-0-Campaign-Site.html

Now I know who I want to be like when I grow up!'
Politics / Re: Jimi Agbaje by joorojaara(f): 5:54pm On Feb 28, 2007
Try http://www.jimiagbaje.com

Apelles:

Who is Jimi Agbaje?
I seem to like this man but I do not know much about him. Does anybody have a dossier on Jimi Agbaje?, a Lagos Governorship aspirant.

Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 7:59am On Feb 24, 2007
Actually I think that that should be  http://www.destiny2007.org/ versus http://www.jimiagbaje.com

streetcyph:

what a shame. this race should be agbaje vs pedro. the likes of koro and tinubu(fashola is tinubu's stooge) should not be in this race at all, all these other amala and gbegiri politicians making noise all over the place are taking the shine away from the best candidates lagos has to offer.


ive always maintained that agbaje and pedro are the best candidates, i gave pedro the nudge simply because he has more money and people-management experience, but agbaje is equally qualified.


http://www.femipedro.com vs http://www.jimiagbaje.com

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JJ
Politics / Re: Who Will Rule Lagos Come May 2007? by joorojaara(f): 12:51am On Feb 24, 2007
Jimi Agbaje has just launched his campaign on 20th Feb on the DPA platform. I guess better late than never!!!

He launched a website too at http://www.jimiagbaje.com

He looks quite solid actually.

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JJ

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