solomon111: Who cares?
It's their choice.
I hope it's worth it.

Right freedom of choice. Its a free world!

Bonga4: Beats me why anyone would choose to slave away in a foreign land just to enjoy the amenities of light, water,etc. I know it's a challenge living in Nigeria but those who are living abroad are not finding it easy either

Please define slavery, the last time i checked someone making 70k annually and does not pay rent but owns is house, pays all his bill on time, lives and feeds comfortably, and is not subject to any form or torture or excessive hard work was not part of the content of slavery. The main problem with blacks is that we are so inferior and feel uncomfortable, and as a result blame the white people for their misfortune. Come on you have got yo move ahead men.

slav·er·ies
1. The state of one bound in servitude as the property of a slaveholder or household.
2.
a. The practice of owning slaves.
b. A mode of production in which slaves constitute the principal work force.
3. The condition of being subject or addicted to a specified influence.
4. A condition of hard work and subjection

Bonga4: Beats me why anyone would choose to slave away in a foreign land just to enjoy the amenities of light, water,etc. I know it's a challenge living in Nigeria but those who are living abroad are not finding it easy either

Please define slavery, the last time i checked someone making 70k annually and does not pay rent but owns is house, pays all his bill on time, lives and feeds comfortably, and can be anywhere an American citizen can be was not part of the content of slavery. t

735 i:
This same abroad when we dey na hin dey shack people so?
If you wish to migrate; by all means; please do so, But be ready to face the following challenges;

1.) You are Black; That alone is enough reason for whites to discriminate
2.) You don't have a European degree or a specific skill in which your expertise can be evaluated
3.) You don't have a red or blue passport.
4.) You come get one mumu accent (what my brother calls it)

If you firmly belive that you can successively overcome the challenges that wil come with the above listed; then by all means (excluding selling property) please come!!!
The standard of living cannot be compared. Reason being; Naija has no standard of living......so there is nothing to compare...

You have spoken well, but all you have mentioned might be a barrier to migrating, but if you are useful to an organization, no corporation will use the above mentioned as an excuse to maximize shareholders wealth. If you are valuable the rest is history. HR in the US is nothing close to HR in Nigeria. when they see a talent they recognize it, doesn't matter if you are yellow green or orange. Companies can be sued and pay high fine if they do such. And trust me the least thing you want to do as a firm is get on the bad side of the government. i presently intern for the No 1 fortune 500 company and you will be amazed how many africans, Chinese and indians work with me and all earn above 65k. They have all have the qualities you mentioned. I am talking from a professional stand point of view not menial jobs. The one area that i know most companies are deviating from is hiring people that would require sponsorship not basically because of the cost but other resources that are tied up to this process with HR. Please i am referring to professional jobs here not menial hourly jobs. I am not saying this factors do not decrease ones chances, but Just add value and know what you are doing you will definitely get a good job. Although my accent is not that strong, but i was interviewed with other white american student at least 6 that i know of and i got the internship position.

ayd91: All this pessimistic comments about Nigeria and how all staying here are doomed to fail really got me depressed.
What right do you have to destroy the little faith and confidence others have in the country.
I know you believe no good can come out of Nigeria but the country made you didn't it?
I don't have the means to travel out, nor property to sell to do so. My plan is to make the best of what is around me and succeed.
If anyone has the means to leave Nigeria for better opportunities, fine do so. You aren't accountable to anyone's opinions and your kids won't have much interest in listening to why you didn't succeed. So do what you have to do.
I still believe Nigeria will get better, when we stop believing, we can be rest assured the end has come.

Nobody is downcasting Nigeria or saying everybody there is doom. Afterall even those of us in the US still have one or two family there. The point is if you have the means or opportunity to travel give it a shot if you like. Simple!

andyzoga: Success is not a native of any country. . . Wherever you are, be prayerful and work smart. Then, good success will be yours.

Why strive to buy a 2013 car when a 1995 car works perfectly. Wake up to the reality dude. If an oppurtunity is given then it should be taken if the oppurtunity cost is lower.

hardbody:

Ever heard the cliche building castles in the air? That is what both the guy that sold and your good self are engaging in. So easy to think of one way events, you have forgotten the what ifs. I wish him luck but I am also aware that lizard will never become a croc just because of change in environment. Speaking for.myself, I will never do it,.NEVER.

Dude you must be joking if you believe environment has no impact in defining success!

Been a long time I came to this thread. Semester is finally over. Wishing you all success as you go for your interviews. Just believe in God if he says yes no one can say no. Please take time to fill your form properly. There is a section that ask some questions about some organization you had joined in the past. Put organization that relate to your course of study. Use only a school official as your contact in the US nobody else. Tell a good story in your application that is consistent. When asked a question at the interview use body languages to explain yourself it shows the degree of passion you have. Try as much as possibke to get a form of scholarship. Schools only give money to people that are exceptional. And always remember your best tie to Nigeria is coming back to fix a problem. Fixing the criminaal justice system if you are going to law school, putting an end to boko haram if you are doing something related to that. Etc. I keep telling people to always say a intend to come back to join the Nigerian Armed forces. Thats a place you can gain technical skill and also have a positive impact on your country. And there is this thing between the US and and Military veterans/active duty military officers. They are treated so exceptionally. Those living here know what I mean.
These are just tips nothing more
All the best guys.

Justwise baba long time no see. Nice answer to the guythat went to UK and said he would not think of selling anything. First of all what visa do you have, what's your skillset, educational background. I will personaly not recommend selling your property to go the UK because of the reduced oppurtunity and regulations. You can't expect to have a Nigerian degree and go to the Uk and make billions. You must be kidding me. I have git freinds that graduated from UK universities and do not have jobs. On the contrary US is so different. God bless America! It is the land of oppurtunities. There is a black race, there is an hispanic race and Asian race, an there are are several regulations that favour minorities such as the affirmative action. We Africans that come to the US just tap from such regulation not to add that hardwork pays real time. I havr no single friend that came here to study that did nit get a good job afterwards.I guess it all depends on your definiton of hardwork. Most UK laws favout citizens and not immigrants while a lot of US laws favour immigrant.and I tell you if you work hard and you have a better chance of getting a job than a US citizen. I am can testify to that. Moreover look at the long term benefits living in a developed country can have on your unborn child. That's a good gift as you open him yo different oppurtunity. So yes I will recommend sellibg properties and coming to the US if you are not coming on a visiting visa. Becausr you barely can get SSN and DL with that.

[quote author=kaytee07]Thanks peeps. Interview was yesterday @ the Lagos Embassy with a black American guy. Here's how it went: Can't even remember if I greeted him.
VO: Please pass your documents
Me: Passed my docs (Passport, I-20, Admission letter, etc)
VO: What course are you going to study?
Me: Business administration and Management
VO: Why did you choose Bleep University?
Me: Spoke about the courses and how each of those courses can help achieve my overall career objective here in Nigeria
VO: How many schools did you apply to?
Me: I said "three" and mentioned them
VO: Why did you choose this school over the two?
Me: Re-iterated the answers I gave to the first question
VO: Did you write GMAT?
Me: Yes, I passed my score sheet (he looked through and passed it back)
VO: Who's paying for your education?
Me: My mum
VO: What does she do?
Me: I explained
VO: What do you do presently?
Me: I work with a company (mentioned the name) as an associate in the xyz unit
All the while, he was typing. When he finished, he gave me a white collection form and said "Your visa has been approved, pick it up @ ikeja on..." (didn't hear the guy after that)
That was the end of the interview. The only supporting document he requested was my GMAT score report. All glory to God[/quote

Na so i won make he dey go for here abeg, good news all the way. Congrats bruv, Welcome to America the land of opportunities!

Better-person:
Gurus in da house. Can I reapply by the end of this week? I was been frustrated by the VO because she kept on interrupting me anytime I try to give an answer to a question that demands an explanation. In the end she said I was not able to convince her and she gave me a white paper and passport and said, “the reason for my refusal is on that white paper. She did not look at any of my documents apart from my receipt. Below is how the interview went:

ME: Good morning
VO: your receipts and passport
ME: I gave her my receipt, I -20, and passport
VO: Where are you going?
ME: The university of Texas at Dallas
VO: Why UT Dallas?
ME: The University of Texas at Dallas provides research opportunities…………….. she did not let me complete my answer and she interrupted me
VO: Sir don’t tell me what you have already rehearsed, I want to hear your own reasons
ME: The Electrical Engineering programs at UT Dallas provides a solid………………….. she did not let me complete and she interrupted me again
VO: Sir don’t tell me what you have already rehearsed, you are pissing me off, give me your own reasons.
VO: How many schools did you apply?
ME: Only UT Dallas
VO: When did you complete High School?
ME: 2005
VO: What have you been doing with your life for the past seven years?
ME: I furthered my education at Yaba Polytechnic and obtained an HND in Electrical/Electronic Engineering
VO: Who is your sponsor?
ME: My uncle
VO: What does your uncle do?
ME: I explained
VO: Did you take the SAT test?
ME: No, I took the TOEFL
VO: what do you plan to do with your degree?
ME: I plan to come back to my……………. She did let me complete my answer
VO: Please Sir this is what I have been telling you, don’t tell me what you have already rehearsed.
VO: Have you traveled outside your country before?
ME: No
The VO typed something on her computer and told me, ” you have not been able to convince me, the reason for your refusal is explained on this paper”. And she gave me a white sheet and my passport.
Please why did she interrupted me frequently?
Please where did I go wrong?
Was my approach on how I answered the questions not the best?
I hope to hear from you because I want to reapply by the end of this week
Thank you

Not a good day for you at all, this is where we talk about the luck factor thing, cus people that did less rehearsals and nairaland thing would probably get their visa by that same woman. You did great trust me it wasn't your fault, but you should have said you applied to more than one school, and taken a standardized test other than TOEFL. Reapply and pray for favor this time. For the most part she cant interview you again, so you are over with her drama.

Wishing all spring applicants the very best of God and deeverick too! you shall testify by His grace.

Tinabab: pls, i am new on dis thread.......and pls can anybody give a hint abt dis travelin stuff.......am a secondary skul holder going 4 degree abroad......pls i need clear reply not abusive reply ASAP.....plssssssss i need it so bad

All you need to know about travelling to the states to study is on this thread. Digest it!

Men some people perplex me much here, who says 300 GRE ain't good enough to gain admission. Please do your research well and apply with your score. The states has space for everybody trust me. I know it's tasking but do your research for schools, you will see a fit.

[quote author=emmanuelkim]Please you guys have been complaining that we are not posting, the reason i stop is that no one want to help again, just because some of you that have gotten your VISA, you have forgotten that you started like this, But that God for the likes of Imperioux, dr_dolittle, kpoli, king01,justwise, despite their study they still find the time to come and solve some problems, May God bless you all that have been trying to carry us along,


please this are the issue bothering me, Even if we are going to the part 4, i will need a 100% advice there too, please you guy should not fail to answer this question?

must read: In my first DS-160 Form that i filled,before the interview, instead of putting parent as sponsor, i put self and also i use my friend address, but when i called the embassy, they told me to fill a new DS-160 from, so i filled it and made those correction, could it be the reason the VO was just typing and typing and gave me the white slip


I will also be going soon, but in my last DS-160, I did not put that i have graduated o, it was during the interview that i told the VO That i have a first degree, Also in my last ds-160 i put not employed because i was working for my Dad, but if put it now, will it make any difference considering the fact that my dad do not pay me through but cheque, also i have a Non-registered business in Nigeria,should i put all this in my New DS-160 Form, why am asking all this question, i want to show a strong tie to Nigeria


Please what do you advice my on this bothering question
Abuja embassy is too cold, almost shaking inside, what should i do?
What if the VO ask me that You already have a first degree, why going for a first degree?

This question is failing most of us that have gone before to interview before
what if the VO said 'why do u want to change career?
When Did you finish high school?
What have you been doing?


Please should i add those changes in my new DS-160 Form[/quote

My brother,

Avoid complicating your case too much, too many changes in an application indicates something fishy. you should have written all this initially, but let us get down to the point. Include any changes you want to include in your new form and have paperwork to justify it. For instance if the VO ask :do you have a first degree, say yes at the same time reaching for your diploma. If asked: do you have a working experience? Say yes at the same time reach for a letter of introduction (multitasking). Use body gestures, it's normally a non conscious way of expression, act it on a regular basis before your interview so you can express yourself better. Having a degree and going for another degree doesn't decrease your chances in any way. They are Americans not Africans. Many professionals here have multiple first degree or masters degree. They do this if they believe a previous curriculum wasn't efficient. So you can use that as an excuse. Simply say your curriculum from Nigeria does not put you in the best position to enroll for grad studies. In a nutshell you believe you are not fully toweled for grad school.
The part of changing career I need to know from what to what to advise accordingly. However have a good explanation if its too distinct. Prepare yourself maintain eye contact and understand that whatever is on that computer is against you and the only thing or person that can convince the VO is you. This will give you a better motivation.

At all: for those that have not had any encounter with the US embassy before be sure to carefully fill out your Ds form properly. That information remains in the database and can work against you anytime, even when you want to renew your visa in the states. I still have a copy of mine so I don't forget any details should I have to encounter department of states in the nearest future.


Wishing all spring applicants the best of God and deeverick too

Cheers

deevick246: I need all the inputs I can get on this issue. What is the likelihood of securing a F1 Visa with a Provisional admission? Here is more information why the PA was offered. The PA was offered because the Graduate School requires a 3.0 GPA for a Regular Admission but a 2.9. GPA was presented and that was why the Provisional Admission was offered. This School in question is ranked high in the list of school's offering the programme of study. I need anyone who got F1 Visa with PA or anyone with a useful information to drop a line or two.

It all depends on the Vo and the way you approach him. If he is positive you will survive through he will approve it. Show passion for your intended course. If he is more than confident that you will meet that condition, then he will issue your visa. All the best my man!

jimtosam: \


I think we have some of this thread foundational members in that school. I read about it while I was studying this thread.Check part1 of this thread.

Jimtosam i don dey expect your email since nah wetin happen please email me asap as soon as you get this to kenfubu1@yahoo.com. Thanks man

Trust me you dont need TOEFL you have GRE, I suppose you are going for Grad school. You are fine. i went with only GRE, as a matter of fact the VO will ask for GRE
once its a Grad application. Nevertheless go with whatever document you feel will present your case better, but you will be fine with just GRE. Wish you success!

franklynx: pls,housemates.. i just received my I-20 for Spring 2013 for MSc.in Pet.Eng.. I have since paid and got my TOEFL Confirmation ticket but cud not write it on Oct.6,2012 in a P/H centre because of I.D problem( i.e i did not present my international passport as a means of I.D hence i was not allowed 2 take d TOEFL..) Can i present my TOEFL Ticket confirmation on the visa interview as a proof dt i registered/took the TOEFL and just tell dem that i have not received my official scores(hard copy) by postal mail..?? i took d GRE and i have my GRE hard copy wit me.. i just wanted 2 take d TOEFL cos of d visa interview..cos my schools neva required TOEFL for admission initially.. pls reply ASAP..Or has any1 been rescheduled by ETS for d TOEFL due to similar I.D problem?? The TOEFL Center Coordinator told me after refusing me 2 take d test,that i shud send an e-mail to ETS and xplain d issue.. dt i may be considerd for resheduling..pls house reply me ooo..

imperiouxx: @eduson002,

All they need is to upload your SOP on www.turnitin.com Chikena! Na wetin we dey take catch students for plagiarism here be that

Men that turnitin.com is crazy, them don catch me for one course

Baiyewu: bros how u dey......

I bam oh, how your side nah?. Send me your number so we can talk men.

jimtosam:

Please, don't use the word forge again. Since your dad will give his consent .

Jimtosam, please kindly email me. I need to ask you an urgent question. loretta_001@yahoo.com

Thanks man.

Anthonymighty:


Please can you give an example on that. How do you mean complete your DS 190 form in a very professional manner. Are there special ways to fill that form? kindly advice.

PS. is it DS 190 or DS 160 form.....im confused o

Sorry for the misconception, i meant the DS 160 form, alot on my mind here. Let everything on that form make proper sense. dont live too many gaps between your educational qualification and work experience. There is a part of the form that says if you have ever worked for a professional non profit organization, put something there that relates to your course of study, dont leave it blank, If you are not currently employed, look for a related company and put it there, if fact put past(NYSC) and current employer. Remember to always make it related to your past and future studies. Contact in USA, should be a school Offiical, no one else. Please nobody should be discouraged about anything, like undergraduate dont get a visa or something, i always tot i liked that too but its a wrong thinking. Naomi is on this thread, had a bachelors degree and was given a visa for another bachelors degree(tho its 2 years). Another classmate of mine in Nigeria had a pretty low cgpa, and was given a visa to study another bachelors degree. Just make a good application, and convince the VO that you intend to study, thats all in my opinion. The interview might not be a reliable means of issueing a visa, but they make a decision for the most part.

Also if you are going for a course related to military like engineering, medicine, psychology or what have you, you can tell the VO that you intend joining the Nigerian Military on completion of your studies and putting an end to this boko haram menace. Thats VERY GOOD TIE. worked for me despite that fact that i have 3 siblings in the states.

All the best and Good luck to Spring Applicants.

Just Passing by.

Wishing everyone applying for visa come fall success, especially my man deeverick, you shall testify. For those applying to community college or what have you, sincerely i used to think that the school you apply to can decrease your chances of getting a visa but thats a big lie. I know of more than 5 different people that applied to a community college this year and currently in the US. As a matter of fact i was on a flight with one of them he applied to a community college in Vegas. I sincerely do not know the criteria for a visa, but in my own opinion, community college is not what everyone says it is here. I applied to a private school in Ohio that nobody knows not even the VO and i was given my visa. My 2 cents pls complete your DS 190 form in a very professional and coordinated manner, cus thats all they gat on you. I hate to say this but luck also comes into play. A new Nigerian student joined me in my school early this week and trust me when i say this, if this guy could get a visa, all nairaland should also get one.

May the good Lord guide your steps and lead you the the right VO that will issue your visa My 2 cent.

For those currently in the US pls before yo make any serious crucial decision, call your relative in the US or a nairalander. Knowledge is power. I am adjusting very fine so far because i have a brother and a sister down here.

All is well that ends well, the struggle is not over. US is another set of struggle, trust me because the people here are totally different, or maybe its just state, dont know.

lanrypaddy: Hello my pple,

I arrived US on Friday evening and till now I have been struggling to settle down here. Looking for an apartment but all what I have been seeing off campus are just too high. $450/month, is that a good deal for me? My school's International Orientation is tomorrow and I want to move in to any apartment I get that same tomorrow. Please anyone with a better deal at CCSU connecticut should help out.

Boss just calm down choose house abeg. I rush go sign agreement of one year, for 300/month and just today i saw another offer better than where i stay for 250. So just calm down dont rush make connect with Nigerians in your school if there are any. Th naija guy wey dey my school just arrived today, he is actuyally an old student but i don sign agreement already.

Email me your number.

ik.swiss:
PLEASE FRIENDS AM LITTLE CONFUSE NOW I WAS GRANTED ADMISSION TO PSYCHOLOGY IN EAST BAY UNIVERSITY IN CALIFORNIA AND ALSO GRANTED ADMISSION TO STUDY SOCIOLOGY IN MORGAN UNIVERSITY IN USA PLEASE AM SO CONFUSE WHICH OF THE MAJOR SHOULD I GO WITH AND THE LEVEL OF WORK IN NIGERIA AFTER STUDYING....PLEASE HELP NEEDED ASAP

It really depends on what you want to do. But let me quote from the advice i had from my siblings here as a matter of fact my brother finished from Morgan and presently works in the US. There is something about Morgan and scholarship. I think they give it alot especially to black students, and off course there are a lot of nigerians there too. It really depends on what you want to do and details of your admission in terms of funding. i dont know much about East Bay, but Morgan i know very well. So make up your mind based on that.

Baiyewu: Bros how you dey

Boss i dey , you suppose do enter na. try email me your phone number so we fit dey talk wella.

Cheers

s-beauty :


Pls what school did u apply too iff u don't mind me asking cz many of the schools I've been searching want my transcript evaluated and getting my officials transcript from my school alone would take almost forever (2months) I made enquiries in my school yesterday

I attend TU. If you are coming for masters program, then your best bet is MBA cause its a professional school, if undergraduate, i think they have a couple of programs that might interest you. I could help you a great deal, and alot of people have funding if you can play a particular sports and also have a good test score and transcript. email me loretta_001@yahoo.com.

cheers!

Ovap: House pls help me out.My father is into quarry and truck biz(we have quarry and tippers),he's d one sponsoring me. I'm his P.A since I finishd my Nysc in 2010. As mech engr,i'm goin 4project management in master's level.Pls house how can i defend myself here? (2) Can I say my father is a contractor or wat would i say? (3) please, what are d relationshp of d these? Mechanical engineer(B.Eng) into father's P.A goin 4project management. My interview is soonest,thnx

One experience i have had with the Us embassy is that try as much as possible to always tell a good story, the Vo doesnt have much time to sit on your case. He has to make a decision for the better part. Get a family friend or someone that owns or runs a engineering coy, have him write a letter for you that you worked there for a while, if asked by the Vo for pay slip, you could say it was a volunteered job or you were just given transport and feeding allowance. Do your research on the nature of the mechanical job should in case the Vo ask you of your job responsibilities ( and please make this very realistic). Just tell a good connecting story, and you'll be good.

dnpasion: House I beg I will like to know if nipost is good enough to help deliver some docs. I need for my admission process to the school I'm applying to and does anyone know how long it do normally take them to make a delivery. Thanks

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It depends on what time you have left to meet your deadline. I sometime sent a document via Nipost to Canada and i registered it and paid about 800-1000k and it arrived Canada in about 10-15 dayz, so if this is ok by you, then you're good. But please register it.

Ollydon: Hello guys, i wanna send my documents to my school..can i send some photocopies? I cant leave some original documents! Will this affect their admission desicion? Thanks in advance

I don't understand what documents you want to send. If its your transcript, simply request from your school, an official copy and send to your proposed school. You can always have access to your transcript from your institution here in Nigeria. Test scores are usually sent directly from the test Coy. so you good. But like i said it depends on your school. My school didn't ask for an official transcript before i got admission as a matter of fact i sent just a scanned copy, so different schools different rules. Some will not even accept transcript, but will tell you to evaluate it first. I just submitted the official one today in person. So you Good.

emmanuelson20: Good evening house, Pls, in preparation for visa interview & collection, do you need to pay for any additional fee(s) apart from the Visa fee of #26,400. Thanks a lot. STAY BLESSED.

You don't need to pay any fee, just that visa fee covers everything. Prepare ahead of time, be focused know what you want to do in the US and overall show passion for it. Forget about ties to Nigeria, The Us has space for everyone and trust me they want the best for their country, if they see you have a good shot, you Good.

Good Luck may the Almighty God guide your path and favor you.

@imperiouxx, i no talk say i don settle down oh, i just dey talk say i don stable small. Person fit go yankee for 3 years make he never settle down so dont get me wrong, i was in the hotel paying huge sum of money since thats why i said i am abit settled. To my friend lanre journey mercies bruv God will guide you. Deverrick, splachilicious and others coming by spring, the sky is your limit no VO can stop you, Go for it.

Goodluck to everyone going for interview soon.

lanrypaddy: I still D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣ Naija still flexing around instead of 2 D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣ prepare 4 M̶̲̥̅Ɣ journi 2 OBAMALAND d̶̲̥̅̊i̶̲̥̅̊$ weekend...Infact Ibadan sweet 4 d̶̲̥̅̊i̶̲̥̅̊$ festive period...Even M̶̲̥̅Ɣ guy King_001 didn't even inform M̶̲̥̅ƺ b4 he left 4 US today, hope u sha arrive dere safely?...abeg, what A̶̲̥̅♏ I †̥ take along ωΐт̃ђ M̶̲̥̅ƺ 2 US so dat I can prepare dat nw...pls house let M̶̲̥̅ƺ know...

Lanre no vecks abeg, everything happen fast fast. I don enter here since 19th, but na just now i dey get myself. Us don go far i swear, see as school be. You cant compare education here to education in Nigeria. Facilities and all that. To those still going for their visa deeverick, spacilicious and others, my prayer for you is that the good Lord will favor you and give you the strength to meet up the challenges here, though its not easy, but one can make it easy. The EASIEST THING TO DO IN THE US is to lose focus, its very easy to lose focus and fall out of line. And please anything you don't understand when you come please ask, the Americans are very very nice. i have wasted close to 100 buck because i just dey beee. Shopping for me is still wallmart, they have everything i need at reasonable prices. God will definitely see us through.

cheers to everybody