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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by sylvajoe(m): 3:51pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
I rather support the West than Russian for the following reasons. 1. The West promotes democracy and encourages open society Russian prefers dictators and autocrats. 2. The West support humanitarian and international development while Russia support conflicts only, eg. Syria, Mali, CAR, etc I know some of those hating the West here work with western NGO,s or have friend and relatives who do so, collect their salaries in hard currencies, Ibdo not know any Russian foreing NGO. Kindly tell us one. 3. The West will allow media and religious freedom, Russia bans or persecute religious minorities, the media and evn their own NGOs. 4. The West will counter your political views with greater argument or reasoning while Russia will either jail you, expel and evn send men to the person in exile to poison and eliminate him. [color=#006600][/color] 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by venabili: 3:52pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
neuf: You didnt explain how the dollar hegemony would be overthrown by this war. I'm really interested in that because a significant part of the 650 bn dollars slush funds set aside by Russia to prop of the ruble against envisaged sanction while planning for this war was in dollars. Russia also have significant wealth funds held in dollars and receive dollars for its oil and gas. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by sylvajoe(m): 3:52pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
64. sylvajoe(m): Quote Post I rather support the West than Russian for the following reasons. 1. The West promotes democracy and encourages open society Russian prefers dictators and autocrats. 2. The West support humanitarian and international development while Russia support conflicts only, eg. Syria, Mali, CAR, etc I know some of those hating the West here work with western NGO,s or have friend and relatives who do so, collect their salaries in hard currencies, Ibdo not know any Russian foreing NGO. Kindly tell us one. 3. The West will allow media and religious freedom, Russia bans or persecute religious minorities, the media and evn their own NGOs. 4. The West will counter your political views with greater argument or reasoning while Russia will either jail you, expel and evn send men to the 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Nobody: 3:54pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
seunny4lif:Hello Seunny, I fully understand what you are saying but here is the difference. In UK and Ireland, what you experienced is racism with individuals, people who spoke to you in a different way or acted wrong because of your skin color. That is wrong no matter how you slice it. What I am talking about in Russia is the threat of physical violence just for being black in some places. Most of the people arguing with me here have only been to st Petersburg or Moscow. When you venture outside those areas as a black man, then you will understand. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by leofab(f): 3:54pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Winters23:it might be your turn next and the world will keep quiet since usa has done it before |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by airsaylongcome: 3:55pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Nobody: 3:56pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
venabili:I agree with you. That was my bad. Assumption is the mother of all Bleep ups. I shouldn't have assumed. I am big enough to accept my mistakes. |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by QueTeddy: 3:56pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
cooltola: Japan and Russia were cohorts in the war where US bombed Japan twice, with nuclear bombs. They didn't try that on Russia and two other things to note, first, then Japan was retreating, secondly Japan contemplated using bioweapons against US but didn't as they felt it was way too far. Plus, most seem to forget that countries are very prone to wars, major wars. Given that it hasn't happened in recent times doesn't meant it something to be forgotten easily. The extent war causes damage to a country and how strategically footed soldiers are placed matters a lot. If Ukraine has a NATO base, which is sure to include battalions and maybe nuclear warheads, if any war breaks out, Russia would be out of the picture easily. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by 4Play(m): 3:57pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Techsupport: The person you are arguing is not familiar with Russia which is why he is so passionately pro-Russia. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by seunny4lif(m): 4:00pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
It’s like you don’t understand me My guy was beaten in Dublin for been black Go to Ballymum and Fingas They will paint your house with paint saying go back to Africa you Nigga Get beating Techsupport: |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by hansomb: 4:02pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
When I see Western media reporting 9000 Russia soldiers death I just laugh |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by venabili: 4:04pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
sylvajoe: Your number three though. This war has changed that. The west is taking Russian media offline whether radio, TV or social media. They are denying us the opportunity to hear from the other side. They simply tell us that the Russians are spreading disinformation and we should not listen. Thats press censorship. Secondly, the West has ensured that you must speak against the Russian invasion if you want to do business in and with the west. No differing opinion is allowed. You must also cut economic ties. Whether you think the war is evil or not is irrelevant. The only political correct thing to say is to call Putin names. Your freedom of expression is out of the window. Thirdly, people's asset are been seized simply because they are Russians. Animals are banned and contract terminated simply because they are from Russia. It does not matter that no court of law has granted leave for the assets to be seized or contract terminated. Especially since these people commited no other crimes than holding Russian nationality. I am not referring to the oligarchs. I am talking about sportmen and women whose life are been impacted simply because they are Russians. Thats discrimination and racism. 5 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Winters23: 4:05pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Nobody: 4:05pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
seunny4lif:Well that was extreme. I get what you mean. I hope your buddy is alright. I really don't play in western Europe, my AO was in the middle east, eastern Europe. But that was then. |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by iJhoe(m): 4:06pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
It is just a pity Zelensky had to be played to game on, when he actually know his country would be the battle ground. Americans Nato counterparts have prevailed on media sentiments of the public with CNN and the likes. |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by mixta140: 4:08pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Techsupport:salute ... i love people that accepts they made mistake when they make one |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by cherishmichael: 4:08pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
I said it!. |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by 4Play(m): 4:09pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
seunny4lif: It's like saying there is corruption in Nigeria and there is same in the UK so there is no difference. You can experience corruption in the UK but the overall levels are lower than Nigeria. There is racism in Ireland and the UK but it's false to claim it's same level as being non-white in Russia. Ireland even had a non-white PM and for all the pro-Russia noisemaking, I don't see us lining up to go work and live in Russia I think this article encapsulates it: She said she does not want to have children in Russia because she does not want them to face bullying and harassment. https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2020/6/26/does-russia-need-a-black-lives-matter-movement 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by venabili: 4:10pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
QueTeddy: Cohorts ke? Japan and Russia? Which history book are you reading from? Japan was on the side of Germany while US and Russia were cohorts. In fact, the lend lease Act of America allowed Russia to get enough war materiel to prosecute the war. And Russia was informed of the new weapon before its use. Stalin already knew through espionage though . You can check wikipedia 1 Like
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Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by alexola20(m): 4:11pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Your head definitely not on your neck. You really don’t know what you are talking about. As at 2014 Victoria Nuland(the cookie chef)boasted that America has spent over $4b in Ukraine. For what? This is one of the reasons many top Ukronazis politicians are scrambling to get their own cut by supporting the west evil plan even to the detriment of good Ukrainian citizens. neuf: |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by mixta140: 4:11pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
QueTeddy:smiles... thing is have been quite here on this matter .... many of us are only saying based on how we understand this thing happening... only those at the helms of affair really knows whats happening ...... these guys are surrounded by many smart people.... from my lil understanding so far... its survival... you cant tell a lion not to eat in the jungle even if its a pregnant prey... it just have to survive 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by cooltola(m): 4:12pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
QueTeddy: Russia and United States have thousand of nuclear weapons at their disposal, NATO have hundreds . Many people expect US to send troops to fight Russia troops one on one, Ukraine expect NATO to enforce a no fly zone where there will be air warfare. If this happens , Russia might use nuclear weapons and America and NATO might respond with their own nuclear weapon, no one wants that. The soviet union collapsed due to a poor economy , so it can happen again. The only choice is economic sanctions or if China can play a mediator between the Ukraine and Russia 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Nobody: 4:12pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
mixta140: Ain't nothing to it. First thing they taught me in boot that I was always wrong. no matter how right I got it. So if I turn out to be wrong, accepting it is just natural. Shout out to you 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by JooEeL(m): 4:13pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
@ dre11, there was also one where there was a train purported to be transporting a train load of armored vehicles to Ukraine. Turns out the video was about 5 years old. Lol. |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Originality007: 4:13pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Rahkman: u dey see Dem, see as Dem floood the thread 1 Like |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Originality007: 4:13pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Rahkman: u dey see Dem, see as Dem floood the thread |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by Originality007: 4:14pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Rahkman: u dey see Dem, see as Dem floood the thread |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by venabili: 4:14pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Techsupport: You have my Respect. Not many people here are big enough to accept their mistakes. |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by seunny4lif(m): 4:14pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Techsupport:Well, he sued the government and got paid around €10K. They almost blind his one of his eye, funny thing was they don’t even rob him |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by mixta140: 4:17pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
Techsupport:one love... |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by seunny4lif(m): 4:18pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
You think having 10 black person in the government means the racism is not massive. South Africa are ruled by black people but those does it change that same black People are been oppressed in their own land by white and South Africans is same level like in Germany I bet you have never been to South Africa before or meets South Africans 4Play: |
Re: Russia Vs Ukraine: The Lies, Misinformation And Outright Propaganda (Fact Check) by abeggnow: 4:19pm On Mar 05, 2022 |
kingphilip:I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as free press. |
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