Tanzanian Kagera sugar to acquire south African Tongaat sugar company...

If this was done by a loud mouthed nation,the news was going to be printed in each space of the internet...

vankelvin:
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The impudence

Who knows Tanzania?

No one?

Mkenya2019:
Ruto was clear from day one that his job was NOT to fight corruption. The fight against corruption must be institutionalized. Otherwise it will become a political - where gov leaves sacred cows - and go for opponents. Let kenya institutions charged with fighting corruptions fight corruption.

What Ruto has done - whenever any scandal has come - he has swifly fired all those involved. That is where his power ends. He can only take administrative action.

The biggest corruption is kenya is actually horizontal corruption - low level bribery when you need gov documents. The best way to fight corruption in that case is to computerize gov services. In six months - Ruto has made 5,000 gov services online. In the next few months almost all 7,000 gov services will be online and on your smartphone. You will not pay any cash in any gov office for any gov services - you pay electronically. This already has seen non-ordinary revenues (gov services user fee) increase tremendously.

Gov revenues will grow - because we have seriously inefficient tax collector - this year target is to move from 2.4 trillion to 3 trillion. Kenya can double VAT collections with rolling out of technology ( Ruto borrowed Rwanda system - e-TIMS that already has seen great promises). Bla de bla.

Worry about Suluhu - with her small brains. Ruto is collosus and kenya is on the right track.

Madness.
Why are you removing Ruto from fighting corruption?

Ruto should fight corruption, actually all African leaders should prioritize fighting corruption.
Ruto or any other president in africa should fight corruption by doing so many stuff,but these are just the basics...

Choose and appoint clean ministers and other officials
Removing beuracracy and time wastage in dealing with corruption cases
If the laws are weak,go and convince the parliament to change the laws
Expose corrupt officials and allow the law go punish them quick
Minimize stupid gov expenditures

Obiano13:
Dictator Kip Jong Un has finally smelled the coffee and decided to meet Raila for a tête-à-tête.

My 2 shillings on this matter, Ruto must

1. Repeal all new taxes
2. Go back to the drawing board on the finance bill
3. Lower the cost of fuel, electricity
4. Run the government like someone who actually went to school.
5. No handshake
6. Stop pardoning jailed corrupt tribemates, let them rot in jail
7. Raila to remain in stiff opposition to keep this mega thief in check
8. Failure to which a revolution will sweep the thief out of power by next year

FYI, this explains why Raila called off the demos. The shameless tax collector was talking to him via back channels to avert a catastrophe.

I dont know why they are putting hurdles for peace talks to resume?

TZ is ready to help...

EKONGKING:


Who fu@king care about sports ,think about ur country where 30 percent of population is extremely poor and violence and killings in cities are putting Chicago and Detroit to shame .

No south African city is in top 40 interms of crime but USA got plenty in top 10

Poverty in SA is around 18% how about yours?

EKONGKING:


You are even more stupid .

Your country is on verge of being a failed state ,
No power,no employment,rampant crimes along with multi Dimensional poverty rate of 30 percent .

Western nation can never invest billions in a collapsing state. South Africa will never be one, so dreaming

Enact new modern constitution in your wasteland. Independent institution fight corruption. Ruto is not like Tanzania president. He doesn't have powers to fight corruption beyond firing someone from gov
.Police in Kenya are independent. Judiciary independent. Anti corruption bodies independent. Asset Recovery independent.The auditor general independent.Budget controller independent.In modern democracy corruption is not fought by charismatic leaders like Magufuli..they are fought by institutions..without favour or fear..however long it takes.

Kazikazi:
Madness.
Why are you removing Ruto from fighting corruption?

Ruto should fight corruption, actually all African leaders should prioritize fighting corruption.
Ruto or any other president in africa should fight corruption by doing so many stuff,but these are just the basics...

Choose and appoint clean ministers and other officials
Removing beuracracy and time wastage in dealing with corruption cases
If the laws are weak,go and convince the parliament to change the laws
Expose corrupt officials and allow the law go punish them quick
Minimize stupid gov expenditures

Shma2023:

I will prove to you why the emboldened is the biggest fallacy.

This boils down to GDP per capita. SA's GDP per capita is 6043 USD. India's GDP per capita is 2600 USD, meaning, you have twice india's per capita Notwithstanding your tiny population. If we picture it from that angle, you're doing terrible.

Mathematically, from what you said, your GDP per cap should be hovering around 59,000 USD, since your population is 25 times lower. - this means you're doing way worse!

For starters:
South Africa
399B/66M = 6045 USD

India
3.7T/1.4B = 2640 USD

India GDP with SA population

3.7T/66M = GDP per capita 56,060 USD ( 56060 ÷ 6045 = 9 times higher)

South African GDP with India's population.

399B/1.4B = $285 ( 6045 ÷ 285 = 21 times lower)

Overall.
your GDP per capita using population is 12 times lower (21 - 9 = 12times) that's why I said average indian is smarter than average south African; irrigardless of how shithole India is in Asia. Their population is more productive.

This might well be the dumbest post I've ever seen....also proves there are at least 3 ret@eds with similar intelligent

jl115:
This might well be the dumbest post I've ever seen....also proves there are at least 3 ret@eds with similar intelligent

That's a kenyan for you.

Unfortunately for him, we have no shops which sells intelligence.

Shma2023:

Now kazi should weep for black race. This is a typical case.

Yes a black race need prayers
But I can't understand why these guys don't use drones to do surveillance in that huge forests

jl115:
This might well be the dumbest post I've ever seen....also proves there are at least 3 ret@eds with similar intelligent

Allow ret@rds to be ret@rds 🤣😂

.

jl115:
This might well be the dumbest post I've ever seen....also proves there are at least 3 ret@eds with similar intelligent

I've told you not once, NEVER RESPOND TO A QUOTE DIRECTED TO SHACKMAN! I believe in your cognitive ability to discern Economics.

For you, I can argue this way:
Why is a large denominator(population) coming into play? Why are we ignoring real numerators / current prices that define a country's economic progress: GDP /GNP/ NNP? The answer is simple; India's sprawling population is arguably out of control _ and the metric will outrightly not be in favor of India.

I know you'll bring in the impact of a huge population in driving the economy:
I already discussed all four factors of production - and the conclusion was; huge productive population. India exports services and technology to SA, and maybe Oil. while SA exports mineral reasons like Coal and Gold.(nature produced) . Skilled population my friend.
Aside that; majority of Indians are elderly and infant(like 5+, times SA population combined). What does this mean? Zero productivity. Pure liability! Government will spend more on those _ while when per capita is calculated, those number won't be overlooked notwithstanding zero economic output. GDP WILL BE AFFECTED!
Still, on the same angle, majority of Indians are idle and jobless... Liability in that regard. So, per capita, it will still affect GDP.

Finally, why is India's GDP per capita only 2 times lower than SA's when India has a 23 times huge population? Answer this without repeating what I said.

Just40:
Allow ret@rds to be ret@rds 🤣😂

Maybe you're part of those 3 ret@rds.

Shma2023:
Maybe you're part of those 3 ret@rds.

Your argument does not hold water hence the ret@rd tag

You live in stone age country with stone age ideas.
In South Africa does Ramaphosa fight corruption?
No South Africa institution fight institution including where Ramaphosa is involved.
Zuma is in prison for corruption.

Kenya has to build it's institutions to be like those of South Africa...where even president can be arrested and tried for graft.

Why would Ruto and executive fight corruption when it harm their interests and their friends interests.
If they attempt - it will just be to witchhunt opponents and rivals - and to intimidate others.

Most of your idi.ots here do not of course understand this.

Ruto legacy will be to empower independent institutions to fight graft - to give them money and leave them alone.

Ruto will take administrative actions like firing or not hiring someone with air of graft - but criminal convinctions is beyond him.

Ruto in 9 months has moved online gov services from 300 to 5,000! - next month it will be 7,000. That will be his major contribution to fighting graft.

Kazikazi:
Madness.
Why are you removing Ruto from fighting corruption?

Ruto should fight corruption, actually all African leaders should prioritize fighting corruption.
Ruto or any other president in africa should fight corruption by doing so many stuff,but these are just the basics...

Choose and appoint clean ministers and other officials
Removing beuracracy and time wastage in dealing with corruption cases
If the laws are weak,go and convince the parliament to change the laws
Expose corrupt officials and allow the law go punish them quick
Minimize stupid gov expenditures

The first SA player to join TZ premier league...

Skudu Makhudubela

Mkenya2019:
You live in stone age country with stone age ideas.
In South Africa does Ramaphosa fight corruption?
No South Africa institution fight institution including where Ramaphosa is involved.
Zuma is in prison for corruption.

Kenya has to build it's institutions to be like those of South Africa...where even president can be arrested and tried for graft.

Why would Ruto and executive fight corruption when it harm their interests and their friends interests.
If they attempt - it will just be to witchhunt opponents and rivals - and to intimidate others.

Most of your idi.ots here do not of course understand this.

Ruto legacy will be to empower independent institutions to fight graft - to give them money and leave them alone.

Ruto will take administrative actions like firing or not hiring someone with air of graft - but criminal convinctions is beyond him.

Ruto in 9 months has moved online gov services from 300 to 5,000! - next month it will be 7,000. That will be his major contribution to fighting graft.

Geez
I need to teach you many stuff......

Do u think the constitution works alone without people? Do u thinķ a constitution is like a magic wand,once u write it down then everything will work out well?
If it was that easy ,many countries could have been corrupt free as of now.

But unfortunately, constitution need people's will and the desire to make the said constitution work. That is where choosing and grooming good leaders is becoming important. Leaders are there to make sure the constitution works as it have been intended.

Your zuma is not in prison although if the constitution was to be applied as it says,the guy could've been in jail although a lot of bloodshed was going to happen. So the leadership decides to avert the bloodshed by letting the guy off the hook.Here the constitution was ignored for the sake of peace.

Suprisingly, you deny about Rutos role on fighting corruption but at the same time u mentioned stuff which Ruto did on fighting corruption. You are a confused fella.

Moving things online is just one aspect of fighting gov corruption, but it shouldn't end there.As u know, TZ is way above many African gov on the use of IT on gov services actually the country is second in africa on the use of IT in government, but the corruption didn't end. That's why u need more leadership interventions on fighting corruption.

Son,do u know why some gov officials are awarded for fighting corruption?

Shma2023:
I've told you not once, NEVER RESPOND TO A QUOTE DIRECTED TO SHACKMAN! I believe in your cognitive ability to discern Economics.

For you, I can argue this way:
Why is a large denominator(population) coming into play? Why are we ignoring real numerators / current prices that define a country's economic progress: GDP /GNP/ NNP? The answer is simple; India's sprawling population is arguably out of control _ and the metric will outrightly not be in favor of India.

I know you'll bring in the impact of a huge population in driving the economy:
I already discussed all four factors of production - and the conclusion was; huge productive population. India exports services and technology to SA, and maybe Oil. while SA exports mineral reasons like Coal and Gold.(nature produced) . Skilled population my friend.
Aside that; majority of Indians are elderly and infant(like 5+, times SA population combined). What does this mean? Zero productivity. Pure liability! Government will spend more on those _ while when per capita is calculated, those number won't be overlooked notwithstanding zero economic output. GDP WILL BE AFFECTED!
Still, on the same angle, majority of Indians are idle and jobless... Liability in that regard. So, per capita, it will still affect GDP.

Finally, why is India's GDP per capita only 2 times lower than SA's when India has a 23 times huge population? Answer this without repeating what I said.

same reason China has a per capita gdp 4 times higher than india, its economic productivity is more efficient

Also India and SA have near identical age demographics

After playing friendly in TZ, Kaizer chiefs from SA was ...

...holidaying..

jl115 post=124769123:
same reason China has a per capita gdp 4 times higher than india, its economic productivity is more efficient

Also India and SA have near identical age demographics

This is a waft logic, and I will tell you why. India's Population is the world's largest. The comparison is not fair/ apples for apples. In terms of efficient economic production, China is the world's most powerful. Economic production affects GDP/ GNP in current prices, and SLIGHTLY affects GDP per head. That's why India is in the top 5 largest economies in the world and SA isn't. Seychelles has bigger GDP per capita than China, does that mean Seychelle's economic PRODUCTIVITY is more efficient than China's? The answer is a big NO!
To put it into a clear picture, China is ranked 64th in GDP per Capita Index. That is behind a whopping 63 nations despite her superiority in productivity.

Nonetheless, I get your point. At least you're not in denial that India's economic productivity is more efficient than that of SA.

Tanzania ahead in Africa in what? Use of IT in gov service - let me laugh in capital letters.

Under Ruto - kenya will soon be like Estonia - everything online

"We have surpassed the target of digitizing 5,000 govt services, by 1st of June we had fully digitized 5,084 services. By the end of the year, all govt services will have been digitized."

CS Owalo: We have managed to fully digitalize 5,084 govt services. We have gone a step further and also identified a total of 9 362 govt services that can possibly be digitalized. Our proposition is that by the end of the year all govt services shall have been digitalized.

'On the roll-out 100,000Km fibre optic cable, our target for June 2023 was 5,000km. Am happy to announce we have surpassed that target and managed to realize 5,280km' - CS Eliud Owalo. ^MM

CS Owalo: We have established 421 free public WiFi hotspots as at July 31 and this is informed by close collaboration between the Ministry and county governments. ^PW

Kazikazi:

Geez
I need to teach you many stuff......

Do u think the constitution works alone without people? Do u thinķ a constitution is like a magic wand,once u write it down then everything will work out well?
If it was that easy ,many countries could have been corrupt free as of now.

But unfortunately, constitution need people's will and the desire to make the said constitution work. That is where choosing and grooming good leaders is becoming important. Leaders are there to make sure the constitution works as it have been intended.

Your zuma is not in prison although if the constitution was to be applied as it says,the guy could've been in jail although a lot of bloodshed was going to happen. So the leadership decides to avert the bloodshed by letting the guy off the hook.Here the constitution was ignored for the sake of peace.

Suprisingly, you deny about Rutos role on fighting corruption but at the same time u mentioned stuff which Ruto did on fighting corruption. You are a confused fella.

Moving things online is just one aspect of fighting gov corruption, but it shouldn't end there.As u know, TZ is way above many African gov on the use of IT on gov services actually the country is second in africa on the use of IT in government, but the corruption didn't end. That's why u need more leadership interventions on fighting corruption.

Son,do u know why some gov officials are awarded for fighting corruption?

Shma2023:

This is a waft logic, and I will tell you why. India's Population is the world's largest. The comparison is not fair/ apples for apples. In terms of efficient economic production, China is the world's most powerful. Economic production affects GDP/ GNP in current prices, and SLIGHTLY affects GDP per head. That's why India is in the top 5 largest economies in the world and SA isn't. Seychelles has bigger GDP per capita than China, does that mean Seychelle's economic PRODUCTIVITY is more efficient than China's? The answer is a big NO!
To put it into a clear picture, China is ranked 64th in GDP per Capita Index. That is behind a whopping 63 nations despite her superiority in productivity.

Nonetheless, I get your point. At least you're not in denial that India's economic productivity is more efficient than that of SA.

efficiency comes to per capita

China economic productivity is more than india's
SA economic productivity is more efficient than india

AfriqueDuZuid:
efficiency comes to per capita

China economic productivity is more than india's
SA economic productivity is more efficient than india

This discussion is above your pay grade.

Efficiency in this sense does not mean per capita. If I innovate a machine that can produce 100 times more value than a human, why should I create employment? If I have a 1% multi-billionaire coming up with innovations like chaTGPT- why should I create employment?
Production is a measure of the
output of a worker, machine, or an entire national economy in the creation of goods and services to produce wealth. I can produce larger possible value with just 1% of the population - that is efficiency.
India can't be equal to SA in that regard. China has created machines that could see several developments at once. China is incomparable to most countries.

Mehn I couldn't believe this is Joburg. This city is overhyped.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-2ZzcWLtS8

ProblemChild1:
Mehn I couldn't believe this is Joburg. This city is overhyped.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-2ZzcWLtS8

I love CapeTown though maybe not Johaneesburg.

GeneralDae:

I love CapeTown though maybe not Johaneesburg.

Cape Town is better than Joburg

Mkenya2019:
Tanzania ahead in Africa in what? Use of IT in gov service - let me laugh in capital letters.

Under Ruto - kenya will soon be like Estonia - everything online

"We have surpassed the target of digitizing 5,000 govt services, by 1st of June we had fully digitized 5,084 services. By the end of the year, all govt services will have been digitized."

CS Owalo: We have managed to fully digitalize 5,084 govt services. We have gone a step further and also identified a total of 9 362 govt services that can possibly be digitalized. Our proposition is that by the end of the year all govt services shall have been digitalized.

'On the roll-out 100,000Km fibre optic cable, our target for June 2023 was 5,000km. Am happy to announce we have surpassed that target and managed to realize 5,280km' - CS Eliud Owalo. ^MM

CS Owalo: We have established 421 free public WiFi hotspots as at July 31 and this is informed by close collaboration between the Ministry and county governments. ^PW

Go argue with the world bank who placed TZ second in africa and 26th globally..


A NEW report by the World Bank (WB) has listed Tanzania as among countries in the globe with effective use of Information and Communication Technology (ICT) in delivering public services.

Whereas globally Tanzania is placed at 26th position, the country emerged second in Africa and tops the list in the East African Region.

The GovTech Maturity Index (GTMI) report, whose study was conducted last year in a total of 198 countries has placed Tanzania at 26th position in the globe, it has climbed from 90th  position in 2021 when it was in group B to 26th place and moved to group A.

As part of the GovTech Global Partnership research agenda, the World Bank has placed a focus on measuring GovTech maturity around the world.

These efforts culminated in the first edition of the GTMI launched in 2021. The construction of the GTMI is primarily based on the World Bank’s GovTech Dataset, which is publicly available through the World Bank Data Catalog.

The GTMI is a composite index that uses 48 key indicators (including eight external indicators) to measure critical aspects of four GovTech focus areas in 198 economies: supporting core government systems, enhancing service delivery, mainstreaming citizen engagement, and fostering GovTech enablers.

In Africa, the study was done in 49 countries and Tanzania has emerged second after Mauritius for the use of technology in government services.

It was established that the use of ICT in Tanzania has increased by 0.86 per cent in the last one year.

In 2021, Tanzania was placed 5th after South Africa, Ghana, Kenya and Rwanda.

In East Africa the study involved 13 countries, namely Burundi, Comoros, Djibouti, Somalia, Ethiopia, South Sudan, Sudan, Eritrea, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Seychelles and Tanzania.

The report further shows that in Tanzania the sectors of education, health, finance and agriculture were leading in provision of services through ICT and hence simplified access of services.

It was noted that the success was a result of a whole-of-government approach, including the e-Government Authority (e-GA) provides vision and leadership regarding ICT policies, strategies, and operations.

Also the report argues that the Government Communications Network (GovNet) is a secure shared network connecting 72 ministries, departments, and agencies (MDAs) and 77 local government authorities (LGAs).

Furthermore, the government e-office system (GeOS) facilitates day- to-day government administrative processes involving movement of files and documents.

The online service portal also brings services closer to the public by allowing citizens to apply for passports, permits, and licenses, and to make payments online.

The government mobile platform (mGov) offers a one- stop shop center for government mobile services via push (G2P) and pull (P2G) SMS, USSD, and mobile application (Android and IOS).

The study measures countries’ maturity in digital government transformation in four GovTech focus areas including core government systems and shared digital platforms, online service delivery, digital citizen engagement, and GovTech Centers.

It is the most comprehensive measure of digital transformation in the public sector.

This iteration captures many changes and initiatives that were launched in the last two years.

The Covid-19 pandemic and subsequent recovery efforts have emphasized the value of digital for government and development outcomes.

This is a key moment for GovTech. Governments are beginning to recover from the Covid-19 pandemic while facing bold challenges on fiscal space, peace, stability, and climate change.

I know my good friend @jl115 will not like this. My prophecy is beginning to take shape. The ANC and EFF are now one under one Agenda — GET THE LAND FROM BOER. It's soon going to be messy. The Brics will massively support this movement and all European land grabbers will eventually leave. The hate against Boer is mounting day in and day out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkDq9vwa3yc

Things will get messy before getting better. Russia is now applying the Divide and conquer theorem on low IQ humans on planet Earth "Africans". Africans are fools, that's why they are easy targets.
Why can't Africa be independent and trust in their ideals without being coerced to take certain routes?
I support the movement but what is Africa bringing to the table apart from being controlled ?

I like the revolution. I know Whites have no good intentions with Africans. Whites are using Africans_ and exploiting them. But one thing for sure is, I will never support Russia or China over anything. We need to get out of playing the last. Russia is now recolonizing Africa and establishing dominance. Why is Africa falling for this?