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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Rikkely: 12:09pm On Jun 07 |
YesDaddy1: Unbelievable, So Abiola was sacrificed for someone from your region to become president, what have you gained from that more than any other region in Nigeria, i spit on your ofo head?
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by engrchykae(m): 12:19pm On Jun 07 |
Kukutente23:Zik align with awolowo,the cross carpeter? Zik knew that awolowo have never agreed with him on anything. When they were in ncnc, awolowo broke out and formed action group. He said Nigeria is a mere geographic expression and later when opportunity presented itself for him to secede as he wanted in the constitution,he all of a sudden was "irrevocably on the side of one Nigeria" What do you make of such a low life? Can you do business with such a man as awolowo? That's why akintola broke away, |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Rikkely: 12:24pm On Jun 07 |
engrchykae: The man is a simple low life bigot, ask people of old Mid-West Region, they will tell you exactly the same thing |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by engrchykae(m): 12:30pm On Jun 07 |
Rikkely:Oba of Benin cursed him at one time. Very foolish slowpoke 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by engrchykae(m): 12:31pm On Jun 07 |
Peterobiisathie:is that why awolowo chose to eat what rats eat? Ratak ambassador 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by BabaRamota1980: 12:38pm On Jun 07 |
The same freaks that did not want secession, few years later committed treason and had their hasses whipped godd 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Rikkely: 12:47pm On Jun 07 |
BabaRamota1980: This is one very unintelligent post, i know you expected all Nigerians to be like your traitors, |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Rikkely: 12:50pm On Jun 07 |
engrchykae: He will never answer that important question
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by T9ksy(m): 12:57pm On Jun 07 |
engrchykae: I understand the rationale you put forward for Zik not willing to collaborate with Awo but can you expatiate why the same Zik chose to, not only joined the north (against the south) but also be a bag-man to sardunna's minion- a mere Grade II certificate holder? This was the man behind the death of many igbos in 1945 (kano) and again in 1953 (jos)? The sardunna was quite open about how he views us southerners- dirty infidels that must be annihilated in due course. Yet the almighty zik was willing to serve under him 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by YesDaddy1: 12:57pm On Jun 07 |
Hehhehehehehe.....small pikin talk. ![]() Haven't you heard of how those who were responsible for the bolded 'compensated' with obasanjo? Later on osinbajo -vice-president! Later on Tinubu - president! Bia nwokem, how many have u bn 'compensated' with?? ![]() Rikkely: Rikkely: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 1:05pm On Jun 07 |
engrchykae:When did cross carpeting become a taboo in politics? Obi that you're all carrying on your head like gala, has he not cross carpeted twice. I'm beginning to see that most of you are pointless hypocrites who are holding Awolowo up to standards even you don't believe in. It's also a testament to how politically naive you and Zik are that you're making excuse that Zik knew Awo never agreed with him on anything. First of all, did Zik and Bello ever agree on anything before that time? It is a settled principle in politics that there are no permanent friends, only permanent interests. Tinubu and Elrufai do not see eye to eye before 2023 but they aligned when their interests aligned. If Zik believed his interests aligned more with Bello than Awo, the result is that we're all seeing today. When did Awolowo tell you he wants to secede? Can you show me where secession is written as an agenda in AG party manifesto? Awolowo asked that secession clause be included in the Constitution for everyone not just him. Zik stood against it. Not only that, Zik sold the South out by accepting to be a mannequin for northerners who were only interested in keeping the South under their control. Will you do business with a man who prefers to lose everything and become a slave than trade with a profitable man who says thigs you don't like? That's why Biafra happened and you're paying till today in enslavement. 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 1:07pm On Jun 07 |
Rikkely:Your Zik that's not a bigot. How market for una now? It is the same North that he aligned with that's stopping you people from ever becoming president or getting Biafra 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Rikkely: 1:19pm On Jun 07 |
YesDaddy1: You end up saying nothing, what have you gained from their presidency? dude something is wrong with your line of thinking, go and help your mom in the kitchen and stop commenting on this topic, it's above your level.
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by dododawa1: 1:22pm On Jun 07 |
Inside life |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Rikkely: 1:51pm On Jun 07 |
Kukutente23: Politicians has always aligned with each other from other regions to win election, i don't see anything wrong with it, no human being with conscience will use hunger as a weapon just to win a war, that's exactly what your Awo did, he's a definition of evil, bigot and heartless man. what he did was a crime against God and humanity |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by engrchykae(m): 2:10pm On Jun 07 |
T9ksy:I am not Zik advocate,here in Igbo land,Zik is hated. Zik knew what the British wanted. The British wanted the new nation to be controlled by their good boys(the North) This is because the North rioted when Chief Anthony Enahoro moved motion for independence. This move made the British love them. My point is that Zik has always been careless but awolowo have always acted as if he has sense only to Bleep up when opportunity presented itself. To answer your question. ZIK WAS BLACKMAILED BECAUSE OF A LOAN HE TOOK FROM ACB,AFRICAN CONTINENTAL BANK WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. THE SAME WAY,TINUBY IS BEING BLACKMAILED WITH HIS DRUG CASE IN THE USA. THE BRITISH HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE AFFAIRS OF NIGERIA SINCE THE DAYS OF ROYAL NIGER COMPANY 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Carazon: 2:44pm On Jun 07 |
Armaggedon: And I've been blaming Zik all the while. Now I know that Igbos are not the problem but those that removed history from our curriculum. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by SuperOnyi: 3:42pm On Jun 07 |
![]() I don't know why some of my Igbo brothers are trying to paint Zik blameless, that man made a terrible decision that ended up destroying millions of innocent souls. He was so delusional to think that unity meant that different ethnicities with different values should be forced together. Fvck! Did he consult the Igbo nation before embarking on such catastrophic mission? Why are we being blamed for the mistakes of these guys we do not even know? |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by T9ksy(m): 6:01pm On Jun 07 |
Kukutente23: Yeah, the sardunna was killed in the first coup by the igbos, in 1966. And if they decide to go their own way, who is going to stop them? Certainly, not we yorubas. Probably, zik could, by offering them the ultimate power in the country however, no group (in Nigeria) can or is able to forcefully keep the north in the country against their will. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 6:26pm On Jun 07 |
Rikkely: engrchykae thinks Awo is a cross carpeter who is not stable. You think it's OK for politicians to align. Which narrative should we go with? As for using hunger as a weapon, even Napoleon did. So did Alexander the Great. Its called creating a siege against the enemy. Even the Israelites whom you claim to share ancestry with did same in the bible. Read the story of the fall ofJericho and Joab the chief of David's army and his pursuit of Sheba. Also read the siege against Judah by the Amalekites. Same also happened between East Germany and west Germany. Even Israel is starving Palestininans now and y'all hail them. My point is the starvation you're whining about like little birches is a valid weapon of warfare. If you who are engaged in war can't man your territory to ensure supply, don't come and start looking for pity. The right thing to do in such situation is to surrender once you've been trapped from all sides. Stop blaming Awolowo for your war leader's foolishness. Ask yourself why he now ran away when the sound of defeat was getting close to him. He didn't want to die but he allowed others die. What a wicked, heartless soul!! 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 6:31pm On Jun 07 |
T9ksy:It is virtually impossible They wouldn't have succeeded because the rest of the country would have also ganged against them. What you fail to realise is that Nigeria as a young country was seen as a proof that different African countries can join together and still live as one. If they wanted to leave, as long as secession was not in the constitution, both Igbo and Yoruba would have stood against them |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Rikkely: 6:31pm On Jun 07 |
SuperOnyi: Nobody is trying to paint Zik as a perfect person , if you have been to south east you will notice nobody give a shit about Zik, my problem is the people trying to paint Awolowo as saint and a visionary leader, he's nothing but a snake under green grass who deserved painful death than Ratak |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by T9ksy(m): 7:11pm On Jun 07 |
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by engrchykae(m): 7:17pm On Jun 07 |
[quote author=T9ksy post=130355648][/quote]what did you think you just did? In your mind,you have countered me?. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by T9ksy(m): 7:27pm On Jun 07 |
Kukutente23: So, you truly believe that Yorubas would have gone to war to keep fulanis in this warped contraption? Yorubas spent the best part of the 1800s fighting these guys. Maybe the rest of the southerners would band up to keep the fulanis in Nigeria by force but Awo certainly, would not waste the lives of his progressive generation to come, on fulanis inclusion into this "mere geographical expression" |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 7:50pm On Jun 07 |
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 7:52pm On Jun 07 |
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Uchek(m): 1:27am On Jun 08 |
So why did Awo who advocated for secession clause in 1954 fight against secession when it finally happened in 1967? Does it mean that he was merely grandstanding when he advocated for the inclusion of clause in the independence constitution. Action speak louder than words.Zik verbally opposed secession clause. Awo on the other hand fought a war & killed millions of his fellow Nigerians who actionalized the very idea Awo advocated in the past. How do you explain the dissonance between Awo’s words on secession & action on secession? BlowYourMind: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by yommen: 6:10am On Jun 08 |
TimeManager: He knows the truth. He is only trying to hide from it or not accept it. And the usual attitude of Igbos on Nairaland. They always argue against obvious truth if it doesn't favour their line of thoughts. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Peterobiisathie(f): 6:11am On Jun 08 |
Uchek:he didn’t want to commit treason because it was already in the constitution and Ojukwu deserved to be hanged that year for the offense 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by yommen: 6:34am On Jun 08 |
AlexBells: No body in his generation is smarter than Zik but Zik still led you to present predicament. Pride wey no lead you anywhere wey you still dey display. 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by yommen: 6:42am On Jun 08 |
ElevationD: Baba, it was not independence that was being discussed. It was secession. Secession was what Zik recommended to be a treason, not independence. As a matter of fact, if all Nigerian parties involved in the secession clause discourse had supported it's inclusion in the Constitution, it would have been included. The white man did what he wanted using Zik's argument as a justification. So, if Zik had argued alongside Awo's thoughts, Biafra would have probably been. 1 Like |
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