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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:19pm On Jul 17
Laurene:
Trump could practically move to New Jersey... He has properties there. It's same reason ever Rubio was considered.

JD retraced his steps and apologised that he was wrong and voted for Trump in 2020.

Romney wasn't ever considered personally by Trump as secretary of state... It was mostly speculations that Rod Rosenstein told Trump to appoint Romney as Secretary of state after he (Rod Rosenstein) and Romney visited Trump shortly after the inauguration.
The establishment were those floating that.

Trump saw Ben Carson as his best friend during the primaries of 2016 and Carson didn't make derogatory remarks against Trump(he endorsed Trump immediately after dropping out)... Same as Vivek (he infact was seen as his surrogate).

Ron ran a bitter and spiteful campaign against Trump... He burnt about 200 million dollars only to lose every county in Iowa despite spending most of his time there.
His campaign was kinda annoying just like Haley's.
I don't really see a future for him at near politically.
He may try the senate if Rubio or Rick retires.

Do you think he'd challenge Vance for the nomination by 2028?

There is a future for DeSantis. Vivek was a snake in the primaries. Haley was intoxicated by the potential she saw when dems started voting for her.

JD vance may not even stand a chance against DeSantis. Trump has a huge base and no one would have survived going against him.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:13pm On Jul 17
bemeruca:


There is a future for DeSantis. Vivek was a snake in the primaries. Haley was intoxicated by the potential she saw when dems started voting for her.

JD vance may not even stand a chance against DeSantis. Trump has a huge base and no one would have survived going against him.

At a time when the media was urging him to attack Trump this was what DeSantis said
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/08/desantis-trump-attack-florida-00081872

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 9:47pm On Jul 17
bemeruca:


There is a future for DeSantis. Vivek was a snake in the primaries. Haley was intoxicated by the potential she saw when dems started voting for her.

JD vance may not even stand a chance against DeSantis. Trump has a huge base and no one would have survived going against him.
J. D. Vance will start off at “square one” if Trump loses in November
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 10:00pm On Jul 17
bemeruca:


There is a future for DeSantis. Vivek was a snake in the primaries. Haley was intoxicated by the potential she saw when dems started voting for her.

JD vance may not even stand a chance against DeSantis. Trump has a huge base and no one would have survived going against him.
Where's the future if I may ask.

How does DeSantis stand a chance against VP Vance (who will inherit Trumpism and MAGA)?
He couldn't even beat Nikki Haley to second in his home state of Florida.

If DeSantis tries to challenge Vance he'd be given the same treatment Trump gave him during the primaries... Vance would remind the base of the betrayer DeSantis is.
DeSantis was roasted and demolished day and night by Trump and his base right from the 'failure to launch' of his campaign on Twitter to abysmal performance in Iowa after campaigning no where else but there for months.

Not sure about Vivek but I think the guy would be solid on issues like Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz... He needs to be given the chance to prove himself.

DeSantis only hope is a Trump's loss... That would re-ignite his slogan of 'I know how to win'

Haley's and DeSantis' ego led to their downfall.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 10:09pm On Jul 17
LordAdam16:


Absolutely.

-Lord
If only he's ineffective or incompetent like Kamala Harris or he fell out with Trump like Pence.

Similarly, if Whitmer challenges Harris to the nomination, she (Harris) would still be a favourite.

DeSantis would cease power by 2026 and may erode from people's mind by 2028 while Vance would still be making policies till then.

Trump would 100% endorse Vance to be his successor over DeSantis.
Coupled with Vance's incumbency advantage... It's gonna be lights out for anything DeSantis still holds by then.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 10:42pm On Jul 17
raumdeuter:


Trump already moved from NY to Florida after 2016and his reason for moving was because Florida is a red state, why will he now move back to NJ another blue state. You really think Trump will move state to accommodate anyone especially a Vice?

What derogatory thing did Ron say about Trump during the campaign?

He dropped out after NH and endorsed Trump without reservation

So many in the media were even taunting Ron for not attacking Trump even when Trump was attacking him

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/desantis-refuses-attack-trump-vermin-remark-rcna127871

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/us/politics/desantis-trump.html

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/desantis-confronted-supporter-directly-after-trump/story?id=106084109
He can still move to New Jersey if the permutations requires that... It's political posturing and calculation.

Trump's move to Florida didn't stop his political prosecution in New York neither would it hinder one in Vegas, New Jersey or even Florida(DeSantis was rumored to have been nonchalant or possibly complicit in Mar-alago's DOJ's raid though it's debatable)

Yeah he moved out of New York mostly due to the cesspit the state has become but if politics demands he moves back there for the culture then he would.
Doesn't mean he's gonna live there... He just have to refill his home address to FEC as New Jersey, Nevada, New York etc

Ron might not have called Trump names but he threw jabs and served as a useful idiot to the Liberal media... Parroting left-wing talking points about Trump causing an insurrection, actually losing the election and causing Republicans to lose in the midterms.

Poll after poll showed there was no part for him (he was even losing his home state by 30 points), he remained in the race to undermine and provoke Trump thereby dividing the party.
His supporters ported to Kennedy's ship as a result that.

As I've said earlier, DeSantis run for president made little sense because he's ideologically inclined to Maga... He was seen as the heir but he was too fast.
He could have strongly endorsed Trump and ended any media speculation of his running... Then waited for VP or 28(peradventure Trump lost) thereby serving as the messiah to the party but he blew it.
He sat on 200 million dollars after the governorship election, refusing to answer if he's running or not to the media even after being pressed by Charlie Crist during the debate... Helping fuel the talks of his running.

He listened to his donors instead of his base.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 11:04pm On Jul 17
Laurene:
He can still move to New Jersey if the permutations requires that... It's political posturing and calculation.

Trump's move to Florida didn't stop his political prosecution in New York neither would it hinder one in Vegas, New Jersey or even Florida(DeSantis was rumored to have been nonchalant or possibly complicit in Mar-alago's DOJ's raid though it's debatable)

Yeah he moved out of New York mostly due to the cesspit the state has become but if politics demands he moves back there for the culture then he would.
Doesn't mean he's gonna live there... He just have to refill his home address to FEC as New Jersey, Nevada, New York etc

Ron might not have called Trump names but he threw jabs and served as a useful idiot to the Liberal media... Parroting left-wing talking points about Trump causing an insurrection, actually losing the election and causing Republicans to lose in the midterms.

Poll after poll showed there was no part for him (he was even losing his home state by 30 points), he remained in the race to undermine and provoke Trump thereby dividing the party.
His supporters ported to Kennedy's ship as a result that.

As I've said earlier, DeSantis run for president made little sense because he's ideologically inclined to Maga... He was seen as the heir but he was too fast.
He could have strongly endorsed Trump and ended any media speculation of his running... Then waited for VP or 28(peradventure Trump lost) thereby serving as the messiah to the party but he blew it.
He sat on 200 million dollars after the governorship election, refusing to answer if he's running or not to the media even after being pressed by Charlie Crist during the debate... Helping fuel the talks of his running.

He listened to his donors instead of his base.

Posts like this read like someone who knows little about the US and gets most of their opinions on some blog they get to by firing up their VPN.
Oh yeah. That is who you.

As if Desantis had some option to preempt a Federal court approved subpoena. Jesus. The fuckory of it all.

The damage right wing media has done is incalculable. Lost brain cells reading this.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 11:19pm On Jul 17
Laurene:
Where's the future if I may ask.

How does DeSantis stand a chance against VP Vance (who will inherit Trumpism and MAGA)?
He couldn't even beat Nikki Haley to second in his home state of Florida.

If DeSantis tries to challenge Vance he'd be given the same treatment Trump gave him during the primaries... Vance would remind the base of the betrayer DeSantis is.
DeSantis was roasted and demolished day and night by Trump and his base right from the 'failure to launch' of his campaign on Twitter to abysmal performance in Iowa after campaigning no where else but there for months.

Not sure about Vivek but I think the guy would be solid on issues like Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz... He needs to be given the chance to prove himself.

DeSantis only hope is a Trump's loss... That would re-ignite his slogan of 'I know how to win'

Haley's and DeSantis' ego led to their downfall.

It is not automatic for Vance to be the front runner just because he is the VP. He may be a running mate and not gain any traction in the shadows of Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:21pm On Jul 17
Biden tests positive for covid

I hope he rests as much as possible and the media stops the constant barrages of question on whether he will run or step down

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/17/politics/joe-biden-tests-positive-covid-19/index.html

BTW Adam Schiff today asked Biden to step down
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 11:23pm On Jul 17
raumdeuter:
Biden tests positive for covid

I hope he rests as much as possible and the media stops the constant barrages of question on whether he will run or step down

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/17/politics/joe-biden-tests-positive-covid-19/index.html

BTW Adam Schiff today asked Biden to step down

The pencil neck should shut up. We have Biden, or maybe SKamala
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:23am On Jul 18
raumdeuter:
Biden tests positive for covid

I hope he rests as much as possible and the media stops the constant barrages of question on whether he will run or step down

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/17/politics/joe-biden-tests-positive-covid-19/index.html

BTW Adam Schiff today asked Biden to step down

I feel good,” Biden, who is fully vaccinated and boosted, told reporters Wednesday in Las Ve

Fully vaccinated and boosted.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:36am On Jul 18
bemeruca:


The pencil neck should shut up. We have Biden, or maybe SKamala

Had that shooter killed Trump , there would have been unrest, maybe some violence. Biden would have been forced to step down, and Mitchell Obama would have come to the rescue. The agenda to fundamentally change America would then go on unabated.

Those are just musings from the right.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:04am On Jul 18
Joe Biden walks into a supermarket
Immediately goes to sniff a young girl.Yuck.

https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1813393589877064054
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:39am On Jul 18
Joe Biden is clearly unfit to hold office. The democrats have delayed his nomination before he announced COVID. He has to isolate for a week.


https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/07/17/watch-allegedly-covid-positive-biden-looks-completely-gone-boarding-air-force-one-theories-run-wild-n2177025

For years they pushed this man to the helm. This don't look COVID.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 5:48am On Jul 18
bemeruca:


It is not automatic for Vance to be the front runner just because he is the VP. He may be a running mate and not gain any traction in the shadows of Trump.
Vance is charismatic and a millennial... I'm sure his the future of the republican party if Trump wins.

Pence was dud and bland but if he didn't betray Trump he'd have been shoe in for the nomination this year... He wouldn't have had any major challenges from the right and would have gotten Trump's nod as a loyal lieutenant.

I repeat, DeSantis' only chance is if Trump loses.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:56am On Jul 18
Im more or less leaning towards the Deep State involvement in the assassination attempt.
They wanted him shot live on TV for whatever reasons. Right before the RNC convention.A big fuq you to Trump supporters.
Killer 20 years has no social media presence yet is a gamer. He had explosives in his car but has no search history on his laptop He had a remote detonator, one with a 2KM range. He thought he would shoot and then detonate his IED. Excuse me.
The only photo they could get was an innocent fresh schooler. I find that hard to believe.
Secret service knew at least 20 minutes there was a threat to Trump's life, yet let him speak.
They knew there was a guy with a rifle on the unguarded roof minutes before he opened fire. The Secret Service Director said the unguarded roof was sloping do they couldn't put a sniper team there.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 6:04am On Jul 18
Vance's speech was solid, charismatic, unifying and striking!
He's the best VP nominee in a very loooog time... Perfecto!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 6:07am On Jul 18
basilico:
Im more or less leaning towards the Deep State involvement in the assassination attempt.
They wanted him shot live on TV for whatever reasons. Right before the RNC convention.A big fuq you to Trump supporters.
Killer 20 years has no social media presence yet is a gamer. He had explosives in his car but has no search history on his laptop He had a remote detonator, one with a 2KM range. He thought he would shoot and then detonate his IED. Excuse me.
The only photo they could get was an innocent fresh schooler. I find that hard to believe.
Secret service knew at least 20 minutes there was a threat to Trump's life, yet let him speak.
They knew there was a guy with a rifle on the unguarded roof minutes before he opened fire. The Secret Service Director said the unguarded roof was sloping do they couldn't put a sniper team there.

shit looks like a CIA, KGB, Mossad kinda stuff... They tweaked the boy's record and perfectly framed it a republican that donated to democrats in order to create confusion.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:13am On Jul 18
basilico:


Had that shooter killed Trump , there would have been unrest, maybe some violence. Biden would have been forced to step down, and Mitchell Obama would have come to the rescue. The agenda to fundamentally change America would then go on unabated.

Those are just musings from the right.

The is what the dems look like https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1813690889988092271?t=s9ss_fcxORcDUlmkdZNaDQ&s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 6:53am On Jul 18
basilico:
Joe Biden is clearly unfit to hold office. The democrats have delayed his nomination before he announced COVID. He has to isolate for a week.


https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/07/17/watch-allegedly-covid-positive-biden-looks-completely-gone-boarding-air-force-one-theories-run-wild-n2177025

For years they pushed this man to the helm. This don't look COVID.

They overworked the guy.
Did you see his schedule over the past few days? It's packed.
Traveling, meetings, campaign stops. It's too much for a geriatric.

-Lord
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:09am On Jul 18
Laurene:
shit looks like a CIA, KGB, Mossad kinda stuff... They tweaked the boy's record and perfectly framed it a republican that donated to democrats in order to create confusion.

A time line from Breitbart

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/17/timeline-of-trump-assassination-attempt-what-we-know-so-far/
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:16am On Jul 18
Someone posted a picture of a cow on a roof. Secret service would better hire this cow if they can't do sloping roofs.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:31am On Jul 18
LordAdam16:


They overworked the guy.
Did you see his schedule over the past few days? It's packed.
Traveling, meetings, campaign stops. It's too much for a geriatric.

-Lord

He is not overworked. Someone else runs the show.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:45am On Jul 18
Those who tout the J6 gallows , Biden and Co should tell the people why those who put it up have never béen identified & arrested and why it remained from 6 am till late in the evening.

https://www.wnd.com/2024/07/what-does-joe-biden-know-about-the-j6-gallows/

cc Obrigardo
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:51am On Jul 18
bemeruca:


The is what the dems look like https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1813690889988092271?t=s9ss_fcxORcDUlmkdZNaDQ&s=19

A product of hate emanating from media.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 11:15am On Jul 18
basilico:


A product of hate emanating from media.
This fat lazy slob robbed and looted shops during the George Floyd protests.
Product of food stamps and stimulus checks.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:51am On Jul 18
Laurene:
This fat lazy slob robbed and looted shops during the George Floyd protests.
Product of food stamps and stimulus checks.

He looks pregnant on free largesse 😊😊😊
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:53pm On Jul 18
Basically. This sums it all. Snipers knew there was a shooter on the roof above them. Some part of the crowd was yelling to security he is up there. Snipers in situ on a more inclined roof had him locked on them via his range finder, he didn't need a range finder he was not on a golf course. They couldn't take him out unless he took a first shot .He fires 8 rounds,3 seconds later they take him out blowing out his brains. Dead men don't talk, all his internet activities is zero. I'm no fool here.
Wisdom again kills me.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:58pm On Jul 18
LordAdam16:


They overworked the guy.
Did you see his schedule over the past few days? It's packed.
Traveling, meetings, campaign stops. It's too much for a geriatric.

-Lord

This is what I was warning about

That type of schedule will stress a regular 50yr old never mind a 80yr old

They should take it easy with Biden. The worst thing is for Biden to fall sick in the campaign period

I hope he can get some rest in this period.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 1:33pm On Jul 18
raumdeuter:


This is what I was warning about

That type of schedule will stress a regular 50yr old never mind a 80yr old

They should take it easy with Biden. The worst thing is for Biden to fall sick in the campaign period

I hope he can get some rest in this period.

He will be getting a lot of rest for sure.
I think we're in the final stretch of Biden cosplaying as the Dem nominee.

We should start talking about Harris' running mate pick.

-Lord
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 1:40pm On Jul 18
LordAdam16:


He will be getting a lot of rest for sure.
I think we're in the final stretch of Biden cosplaying as the Dem nominee.

We should start talking about Harris' running mate pick.

-Lord

I am hearing that Jeffries and Schumer are privately telling Biden to step down

I think he will just use this sickness as the right excuse to do that

This was posted by the Trump campaign yesterday, They cannot commit to a VP debate when they dont know who the VP will be

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 1:54pm On Jul 18
happney65:


Watched Vance on CNN about a Month or so ago and he was asked if he would accept the outcome of the election if they lost. Dude couldn't give a straight Yes or No answer except to be beating around the bush.

Bunch of Assholes!
I am not even looking forward to the election. I am looking forward to post election after Trump loses and what his supporters plan to do after that. grin

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