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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by naijanative: 4:43pm On Aug 02
Botragelad:

You can be a pregnant woman and have XY chromosome. You know that right? So does it make them any less of a woman?
I can also tell you that sex chromosomes are not the sole determinant of a person's sex or gender. XY chromosomes don't automatically make someone "male". It's complex.

And what about individuals with variations like XXY, XYY, or Turner syndrome? Do they not fit into your "male" or "female" boxes? It's like you've never heard of intersex conditions or the nuances of human biology.

So please kindly explain to me how does not having XY chromosomes automatically disqualify someone from competing in women's sports. I await your response. Thanks!

You are wrong
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 4:44pm On Aug 02
folake4u:


@ the bolded. What are you even saying?

So because she has high level of testosterone, she should use the men's bathroom too right?

I'm going by your logic now.

you are asking me what I am saying and answering the question yourself and saying what it is YOU THINK i am saying.

are you actually answering your own question yourself?

how is your second line about using the men's bathroom related to the following:

"its unfair for a woman with high testosterone and appearance to compete against women who dont have such high levels. its no longer a fair fight"
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by etrange: 4:44pm On Aug 02
PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games

You can’t make this comment and still be against gender transitioning. What you’re claiming here is that she was born man in a woman’s body, but when trans people say this, you people say they’re delusional. This makes me wonder if people like you actually have a stand or just jump on anything to discriminate a certain group of people.

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Lovit(m): 4:46pm On Aug 02
Will the Op have her as a wife to raise children for him?

She is somehow compromised, so let her rest from combat sports for now
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by unyimesamuel001: 4:51pm On Aug 02
SEX DETERMINATION

Let me try to be as clear and simple as possible.

Sex is determined by the Y chromosome. Specifically the "Sex determining segment" of the Y chromosome.

Males are XY while females are XX. (Others like XXY XXXY are males provided there is a Y chromosome).

In rare cases individuals with Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome have a dysfunctional androgen receptors which lead to them appearing female despite being genetically male.

They however have testis, which produces high levels of testosterone in response to the insensitivity. They don't have ovaries, wombs and cannot be pregnant.

These females have the strength of males.

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Badgers14: 4:54pm On Aug 02
madridguy:
You have done so well bringing it here. I'm laughing seeing some people thinking Muslim country will send a transgender to represent them.

Its surprising Imane Khelif who has been defeated by five other women, is being falsely labeled as a man. But she too crush that Italian lady.


Man wey sabi..

That's the world we live in, people always twist facts to suit their narrative.

Many people just read the headlines of a news article, without understanding the whole story and without using their critical thinking skills... just run away with incorrect information
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by viodemus: 4:54pm On Aug 02
That's how people spread propaganda about the lgbt in America and the Democrats.


Understanding the lgbt in America, in summary:

It's all about life, freedom, and finances.
Before now, if two homo people are together and one dies, they did not recognize the partner if the person is not opposite sex. So, in a way, the govt or some relative that the dead person did not acknowledge might take over the property or finances.

Then, in the not distance past, the lgbt people were kpaied at will when others found out about them.

If you know anything about American laws and constitution, you will find out that it is 99% written in blood. It's almost like it takes death for a law to be passed.


And also, it could be an opening for enemies outside of America to take advantage of disgruntled citizens in the society.

I respect American decision to face it head on.


For me, I will not support having a different sex compete in a game or competition that might favor one person due to sex genetic advantages. Am very glad, they clarified this specific case.



As brutal as America was in the past, and very rugged on the world stage now, one thing you can say about them, they have a conscience. Something that many Nigerians and 3rd world countries seriously lack.


This protest in Nigeria as of today, is really a lack of conscience protest against the gov.

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by GloriousGbola: 4:56pm On Aug 02
None of these are fair angry

This was us under 16 vs el salvador
That was Usain bolt at the height of his powers
That is Micheal Phelps and his size 14 feet.

It is an athletic competition where the best of the best come to compete. That Algerian girl is reportedly a welders daughter. She has probably been beating boys up from her childhood.

That Italian is a bitch arse sore looser.

She should have taken up synconized swimming or figure skating instead.

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by 2Radii: 5:00pm On Aug 02
PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games
They said she doesn't have any male reproductive organs....wetin na

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Vyzz: 5:05pm On Aug 02
PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games


She's female..

Stop trying to bend things.

The other woman no strong

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by KushLyon(m): 5:06pm On Aug 02
lexy2014:


can you show me the argument you are referring to?

I remember asking questions. when did questions become argument?

is it that you dont know the difference between a question and an argument?

if you dont know the difference between an argument and a question, then what makes you the umpire to decide who stays or who leaves?

lets try again....

do all the people you mentioned above have high testosterone?

how does all you mentioned above negate the issue of high testosterone among female athletes?

The countries, race and people that person mentioned all have an "unfair" advantage in their respective sports. Using the Ethiopians as example, they are genetically more efficient at oxygen utilization because of their terrain which makes them excel at long distance races (marathon race), that itself is an unfair advantage to any other country competing against them which is the same thing as a woman having elevated testosterone levels, it's an unfair advantage against women who don't. And the truth is that there will always be women who have higher testosterone levels in such sports.

FYI: I see no reason why you had to write such long epistle when you're clearly the one that doesn't know the meaning of an argument

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by PJtech: 5:09pm On Aug 02
Vyzz:



She's female..

Stop trying to bend things.

The other woman no strong

Ohhhh
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 5:10pm On Aug 02
KushLyon:


The countries, race and people that person mentioned all have an "unfair" advantage in their respective sports. Using the Ethiopians as example, they are genetically more efficient at oxygen utilization because of their terrain which makes them excel at long distance races (marathon race), that itself is an unfair advantage to any other country competing against them which is the same thing as a woman having elevated testosterone levels, it's an unfair advantage against women who don't. And the truth is that there will always be women who have higher testosterone levels in such sports.

FYI: I see no reason why you had to write such long epistle when you're clearly the one that doesn't know the meaning of an argument

dude, you have not answered my questions.

1. can you show me the argument you are referring to?

2. I remember asking questions. when did questions become argument?

3. is it that you dont know the difference between a question and an argument?

4. if you dont know the difference between an argument and a question, then what makes you the umpire to decide who stays or who leaves?

lets try again....

5. do all the people you mentioned above have high testosterone?

6. how does all you mentioned above negate the issue of high testosterone among female athletes?

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by PJtech: 5:11pm On Aug 02
etrange:


You can’t make this comment and still be against gender transitioning. What you’re claiming here is that she was born man in a woman’s body, but when trans people say this, you people say they’re delusional. This makes me wonder if people like you actually have a stand or just jump on anything to discriminate a certain group of people.

Trans are not natural sir... they're man made😂

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 5:13pm On Aug 02
GloriousGbola:
None of these are fair angry

This was us under 16 vs el salvador
That was Usain bolt at the height of his powers
That is Micheal Phelps and his size 14 feet.

It is an athletic competition where the best of the best come to compete. That Algerian girl is reportedly a welders daughter. She has probably been beating boys up from her childhood.

That Italian is a bitch arse sore looser.

She should have taken up synconized swimming or figure skating instead.


what about "Usain bolt at the height of his powers"?

how was he more advantaged than other sprinters?
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by LadyExcellency: 5:14pm On Aug 02
Botragelad:

You can be a pregnant woman and have XY chromosome. You know that right? So does it make them any less of a woman?
I can also tell you that sex chromosomes are not the sole determinant of a person's sex or gender. XY chromosomes don't automatically make someone "male". It's complex.

And what about individuals with variations like XXY, XYY, or Turner syndrome? Do they not fit into your "male" or "female" boxes? It's like you've never heard of intersex conditions or the nuances of human biology.

So please kindly explain to me how does not having XY chromosomes automatically disqualify someone from competing in women's sports. I await your response. Thanks!

Stop this nonsense you put up there. She can't be pregnant. The International Boxing Association disqualified her in 2023 from competing in women's category. Tell me why IOC should accept her.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by pocohantas(f): 5:15pm On Aug 02
So she is a woman?

Has she been beaten by women in the past?

If I had seen her picture without any caption, I will say she looks like ladies and gentlemen.

But then, her condition is similar to the one I see in Nigeria where some women have beards right? Only that she is in sports. I am trying to get the issue here.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad: 5:17pm On Aug 02
LadyExcellency:


Stop this nonsense you put up there. She can't be pregnant. The International Boxing Association disqualified her in 2023 from competing in women's category. Tell me why IOC should accept her.
Read. It was an illustration.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Meteng: 5:18pm On Aug 02
PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games
She should even go and fight a man sef, since she has more male teresterone
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Cousin9999: 5:18pm On Aug 02
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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by LadyExcellency: 5:19pm On Aug 02
pocohantas:
So she is a woman?

Has she been beaten by women in the past?

If I had seen her picture without any caption, I would say she looks like a ladies and gentlemen.

But then, her condition is similar to the one I see in Nigeria where some women have beards right? Only that she is in sports. I am trying to get the issue here.

She is not a woman. She was banned by the International Boxing Federation last year 2023 from competing in the women's category. What he has is a disorder. Even the 2020 Olympics also disqualified her from competing in the women's category.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by GloriousGbola: 5:21pm On Aug 02
lexy2014:


what about "Usain bolt at the height of his powers"?

how was he more advantaged than other sprinters?

You cannot see the gap he gave them? Maybe that guy too should have been wailing about how unfair it was.

A person goes into a competition that rewards ferocious pugilism and then starts crying because she was outmatched and outclassed.

Next time she should stay home and box with her dolls.

Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 5:22pm On Aug 02
GloriousGbola:


You cannot see the gap he gave them? Maybe that guy too should have been wailing about how unfair it was.

A person goes into a competition that rewards ferocious pugilism and then starts crying because she was outmatched and outclassed.

Next time she should stay home and box with her dolls.

guy, how was usain bolt more advantaged than other sprinters?

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Lawag3: 5:23pm On Aug 02
lexy2014:


no. she/he is intersex. it is a biological anomaly

I know but she has all those stuff I mentioned.

She can get pregnant.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by LadyExcellency: 5:23pm On Aug 02
Botragelad:

Read. It was an illustration.

The uproar is normal. The International Boxing Federation with specialized doctors and Lab scientists carried out the test in 2023 and said no to the women's category the 2020 Olympic committee said no but the 2024 Olympics said yes and then we see what happened in the ring. It was simply woman abuse and daytime assault in 46 seconds.
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Bahamas95(m): 5:26pm On Aug 02
The vawulence in the front page is epic, I don't even know the doctor to believe now. grin grin
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by GloriousGbola: 5:26pm On Aug 02
lexy2014:


guy, you didnt answer my question.

how was usain bolt more advantaged than other sprinters?

He is six foot five. It is unfair. tongue

Can you not see the difference in height between him and the other sprinters?

They should have dropped out and insisted on running against a person of similar height
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Maski87: 5:27pm On Aug 02
PJtech:
That doesn't change the fact that she has XY chromosomes which makes her 'male'

Males should not be allowed to take part in women games
If she is xy tell how come she has a vagina
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Botragelad: 5:27pm On Aug 02
LadyExcellency:


The uproar is normal. The International Boxing Federation with specialized doctors and Lab scientists carried out the test in 2023 and said no to the women's category the 2020 Olympic committee said no but the 2024 Olympics said yes and then we see what happened in the ring. It was simply woman abuse and daytime assault in 46 seconds.
What exactly is your point? 😂
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by LucemFerre: 5:29pm On Aug 02
Botragelad:

Look who we have here. A genius who thinks he's right. Take a sit, mate!

"if it's not male, it's female", right?. Do we also say if it's not red, it's blue? If yes, then you've successfully ignored the entire spectrum in between! Does that make any sense?

If you didn't skip your biology class you would understand that biology itself defies your nonsense male-female dichotomy. Intersex individuals, for example, can have variations. From chromosomes to Instruments, and hormones that don't fit into your idea(please read my previous response). And what about those with XXY or XYY chromosomes? Do they not exist too?



Do you realize how stupid you sound?
I know say you don make up your mind so i no go waste my time but, receive sense and stop behaving like Tinubu. Its unhealthy

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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by KushLyon(m): 5:32pm On Aug 02
GloriousGbola:


He is six foot five. It is unfair. tongue

Can you not see the difference in height between him and the other sprinters?

They should have dropped out and insisted on running against a person of similar height

I don't even know why you're still replying that human, it's a pointless endeavor

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