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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Aemann33: 6:19am On Aug 03 |
Botragelad: Are you aware that there is a required level of testosterone that must not be exceeded in order to participate in female sports esp boxing, she failed the test twice before this competition but was overlooked by the IOC |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Charlie2020(f): 6:31am On Aug 03 |
Botragelad:Looking at both of them, the crying Italian looks more like a male than the Algerian |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by GloriousGbola: 6:53am On Aug 03 |
This is Amy brodhurst, An Irish boxer who has defeated imane khelif in the past Who honestly expects elite female boxers or athletes in general to have an abundance of traditional feminine features?
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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by JuanDeDios: 7:34am On Aug 03 |
yinkabeauty:I think you're wasting your time. Dr Botragelad knows everything you wrote. He's just being disingenuous. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 7:48am On Aug 03 |
JuanDeDios: You are wrong , this guy you call "Dr" has been talking out of line , I have been checking his comments, and for him to be deliberately disingenuous as you claim is another bizarre in my view. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:28am On Aug 03 |
OALandAgents: Wrong she doesn't have tested or a penis, she has functional female reproductive organs. Her high testosterone levels may give her difficulty in contraception but she'll not be unique amongst women in that regard. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:30am On Aug 03 |
PJtech: According to you it doesn't make them female either. A conventional female according to you is XX. You see the folly in your argument now ! 1 Like |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:31am On Aug 03 |
brain54: Nonsense, 9 women have defeated this athlete all females that lazy Italian was just looking for excuses. She lost and is looking for sympathy 1 Like |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:34am On Aug 03 |
PJtech: No where in conventional modern science is that considered absolutely true. What of those who are hermaphroditic ? 1 Like |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by pocohantas(f): 9:17am On Aug 03 |
PDPGuy: She isn't that strong then. I thought she has been beating everyone to become world champion. 1 Like |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 9:29am On Aug 03 |
GloriousGbola: You are a mumu, an unintelligent animal but you are just moving through your ignorance and darkness but do so in egoistic fashion, when you see idiot like you who speak from a point of ignorance, it's not difficult to determine for an enlightened mind and educated ones like us in the field of science. Nicompoop and stupid kill you there! mumu is struggling to understand what it is and very egoistic about it. What stupid thread is this one asking for, a thread that is caused by ignoramus like you who start unnecessary controversy calling intersex, transgender when they have not interviewed the person in question, if he feels like the opposite gender... ignorance everywhere, which eventually boomerangs to a thread and thank God for intelligent people like us who will move along to enlightened people like you with coconut π₯₯ head. Of course this is not the first Olympics with intersex athletes, we have seen them especially in sports that is not a direct engagement with the competitors like boxing, kickboxing, wrestling e.t.c and this lady is not the first to be talked about and athletes have been prevented before from competing, this lady and an Asian lady was also barred from competing in an event before the Olympics but those body are not in charge in this olympic boxing π₯ because of corruption, so the case of these ones will be revisited in details after olympic, decision against them cannot be taken, when the competition is already on the way, so... Idiot, who is trying to impress you, nonentity, mad boy? but just to let you know you were not conversing with ignoramus like you, just for you to know what to say and not talking thrash. There is no recent hysteria on transgender/transexual, it has been there, what amplified the terms is the MISUSE of intersex as transgender/transexual. INTERSEX has been a term that has been so silent but the most controversial but what makes intersex comparatively silent is the misidentification of the terms as transgender/transexual. Even the people in the media who are more sensible than you also struggle with the distinction between intersex/transgender/transexual, everything to them is transgender, people like us are the ones who enlight them. You are the only one suffering from the headache of athletes transitioning into other gender e.g male to female to compete in their sports. You are worried because you lack the knowledge there in , a transgender is a mere feeling of a particular gender feeling belonging to the other gender, a male transgender (feeling) example will become transexual if he actually transforms his feelings into action through surgeries, so in this case no matter who you are there is a barrier you must cross to make you eligible to compete , which brings fairness....be it intersex, transexuals, gender tests will bring light to who is eligible and not eligible to compete. That's the essence of gender tests you fools don't want to admit, because people are born differently some are not outrightly male or female, while some will transform artificially, whichever, gender tests will set the limits and raise alarm on anomalies.. So that's how to handle a case of intersex and transexuals , gender test, only an uneducated and ignorant ones like you things will be difficult for. Ignorant ones like you mentioned "transgender" and how should that be a problem...mere feeling of not belonging to your assigned gender at birth and you may not have opposite gender attributes or chromosomes to feel this way, intersex is the right term. And if at all they should have used the term "transexual" which is the actual transformation to other gender but "transgender" (ordinary feeling which can come from a normal person/female) is what they are shouting up and down, the source of confusion to those of you who are not knowledgeable. You a big fool, it's not in black and white, your nonsensical write up suggests millions of idiots like you need enlightenment. Again you are a bastard for saying she has been given a permanent green light in her (intesex - status ) career, a lady that was barred before olympics and another asian lady, why they left her now is because those set up who banned her before olympics are having issues relating to corruption and so their files and data are set aside for now and they are pushed aside, the cases of the Algerian athletes and her likes will be revisited after the Olympics, they can't just push them out in the midst of the competition. You are an ill informed and unenlightened animal who just want to form I know. You mean idiot like you, who is not informed and passing out misinformation has apologized? Ok then. So as I told you, her case and others like her will be revisited in details after the Olympics to determine their fate henceforth, afterall Caster Semanya of South Africa πΏπ¦ was competing against normal female until steps were taken against her, so when you this ill informed bastard want to pass information ensure you are passing the accurate ones and not misinformation. You are insane for saying someone has lost in the past (perhaps choosing the fight to win or lose) then the right thing shouldn't be done? your head is not correct... If a cheating team is at the midtable, then because they are not at the top, that suggests they have lost some matches, then they should be left alone and not sanction? Your brain π§ is in the gutter. I and Carini don't subscribe to or celebrate cheating and undue advantage, and that's what any body with sense and good conscience should adopt, since you fail DNA test, and the one you taught is your father is celebrating you , as cheating run in your household π , such cannot be said of other homes π‘π‘. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by GloriousGbola: 9:34am On Aug 03 |
yinkabeauty: While you were using 4 hours to prompt chatgpt to post another wall of inane text carinni is already facing the reality of her poor sportsmanship 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 9:50am On Aug 03 |
GloriousGbola: When I am not an ignoramus bastard like you , I call God in this which is my witness all this I am aware of it, Iam not like ignorant idiot like you , who just claim to know and knows nothing, even if you consult google and chatgpt, without deep knowledge in this field you will embarrass yourself (like you are currently doing) before someone who went to school and have a degree in such field of study..are you crazy...I spent years to acquire my science degree. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 9:56am On Aug 03 |
GloriousGbola: Personal apology does not say right thing won't be done, Carini is not a governing body, she is just an individual who perhaps has not handled issue maturely.... You online rat just jumping quoting irrelevant things up and down. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 10:05am On Aug 03 |
Lawag3: It doesn't have to be an outright male, the intersex status is dangerous enough and has formed the basis for disqualification or at least Legislation(law amendment) in the past, due to its' undue advantage. BarrElchapo OALandAgents |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 10:13am On Aug 03 |
Afritop: Yes, Bobrisky was transgender (feeling of opposite gender) and now transexual(feeling into action through surgeries). But this lady boxer is intersex, carrying both male and female genetics and characteristics, an anomaly, according to reports. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 10:19am On Aug 03 |
folake4u: How is bathing in bathroom the same as direct competition in sports? Of course someone may appear more of female and can still use female bathroom but she is carrying male factors and those lady shouldn't confront her in fight, that's the gist. lexy2014 |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 10:25am On Aug 03 |
Angelfrost: There will be review post Olympics, she and someone else were barred before olympics but those in charge then had issues relating to corruption and have been put aside with their works, so other groups are in charge now, they can't fabricate laws and dismiss them when the tournament is already on the way. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 10:36am On Aug 03 |
KushLyon: Lexy2014 didn't miss the point, all those ones are still who they are with no anomaly , can't be compared to a lady who is carrying a male biological factor that confers undue advantage on her. Afterall in boxing π₯for example, people of the same gender and age still don't end up in the same category, there is feather, banter, light, heavy weight categories despite their age bracket and the same gender but were put in different categories, and these ones don't have biological anomaly oo , let alone a lady with male factors. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 10:42am On Aug 03 |
Judolisco: She shouldn't fight in any or else she will undego hormonal suppression to compete in female sports, or henceforth the authorities should create intersex and transexuals categories. Pjtech |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by GloriousGbola: 10:42am On Aug 03 |
yinkabeauty: This is your true form. Not the quasi intellectual 'biologist' you have been pretending to be |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by PJtech: 10:43am On Aug 03 |
yinkabeauty: Exactly 1 Like |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 10:45am On Aug 03 |
Gbeng30: She will still continue, after Olympics things will be done holistically concerning this situation and other similar ones. 1 Like |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 10:49am On Aug 03 |
GloriousGbola: You are the one who were impatient and didn't calm down, FYI, i am not quasi intellectual biologist. I have my certification every where here from where I am writing from. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Judolisco(m): 11:02am On Aug 03 |
yinkabeauty:do u believe some men are naturally stronger than other men? |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by KushLyon(m): 11:04am On Aug 03 |
yinkabeauty: Micheal Phelps produces less lactic acid than the average human, how is that not an anomaly? He also has hypermobile joints which makes him have a greater range of motion, as well as having a disproportionately long wingspan, and all these gives him a huge advantage against other swimmers, I don't see y'all raising the "it is not fair" card against that one but one white girl gets punched too hard and hypocrites starts screaming foul FYI: imane is in the light welterweight class, so because she punches harder than other females, she should be moved to heavyweight? And also, she has lost 9 times to other females, maybe those ones also have the xy chromosome or maybe they are transgenders 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by yinkabeauty: 11:04am On Aug 03 |
Judolisco: Yes, but there is a range . But a potential range like night and day is bad. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Emeka71(m): 11:06am On Aug 03 |
madridguy:So unfair. |
Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by lexy2014: 11:08am On Aug 03 |
yinkabeauty: I actually thought it was a simple and straightforward issue. thank you for your input. very apt. kushlyon and folake4u, see below IAAF ruling on Caster Semenya (I hope you know who she is) on this same issue 1 Like
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Re: Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is Not Trans. by Lawag3: 11:24am On Aug 03 |
yinkabeauty: Just having the xy chromosome is enough to make a person intersex? |
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