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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 10:38pm On Aug 07
Aemmyjah:
😂
U just want to torment that guy

MaxInDHouse: If you want to engage him in a reasonable conversation he will decline but the idiot will continue quoting and insulting you simply for your faith.
Must i agree with him? smiley

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost false jw mad max and lost false jw lover aemmy

just look at the never ending babble of you queers
i reply to you because of your never ending nonsense and lies, but you can never stop lying, can you
just like your devil can't:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 10:44pm On Aug 07
MaxInDHouse:
Interesting thread! smiley

^^ repetitive obsessive compulsion < very multiple occurrences

lost false jw mad max

repeating the truth as Christians do is good
but you false jw people being compelled to repeating the same obsessions over and over again is mental disease
and you false jw's are full of repetitive obsessive compulsions in many threads:

your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 11:03pm On Aug 07
jwfacts dot com

Mental Illness Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses
There are many intelligent, well balanced and successful Jehovah's Witnesses and there is no intention in this article to suggest a Witness needs to have any mental or emotional problems to hold to their beliefs. This is an attempt to clarify whether existing studies prove higher levels of mental illness amongst Jehovah's Witnesses and identify reasons why this could be the case.

Singelenberg
In Child Custody Decisions and Jehovah's Witness Parenthood, Richard Singelenberg has produced a balanced look at the evidence. He concludes that as yet there are no true scientific studies that can be used legitimately;

"In general, scientific research of socialisation practices in religious movements is still in its infancy. Although specific data from Jehovah's Witnesses are lacking, results from similarly controversial religious movements such as Hare Krishna, the Rajneesh Movement and The Family (the former Children of God) indicate that child-rearing practices in these groups have no adverse effects on the child's general well-being (Lilliston & Shepherd 1994; Palmer & Hardman 1999)."
He shows concern that perceptions about Jehovah's Witnesses may unjustly lead to an unfavourable judgement against them in custody cases:

"Analysis of two court cases focusing on child custody disputes among members of this religious movement indicates that misconceptions about religious tenets, consideration of pseudo-scientific claims and emphasis on the ideological realm rather than individual circumstances may influence judicial decisions. It should be noted, however, that certain statements that have emanated from the umbrella organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses might have contributed to these misinterpretations."
Singelenberg also highlights the variance of beliefs and practices of Witnesses when behind closed doors;

"From my own research, I met Jehovah's Witnesses who do celebrate birthdays, vote for political candidates, sit around Christmas trees (albeit with the closed curtains), have premarital sex, let off fireworks at New Year's Eve and smoke an occasional cigar after a good meal. So, drawing conclusions from the movement's literature (particularly back editions) to evaluate the day-to-day practices of a specific family may render an inaccurate picture of their proper religious involvement (Wah 1997b: 306)."

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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:17am On Aug 08
Wonderful thread!
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 5:48am On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful thread!

Pro_26:11  Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:04am On Aug 08
Great thread! smiley
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 6:08am On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
Great thread! smiley

Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:01am On Aug 08
Wonderful thread!
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 10:13am On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful thread!

Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08am On Aug 08
Great thread! smiley
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 12:18pm On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
Great thread! smiley

Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 12:20pm On Aug 08
Mental Illness Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses

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Singelenberg proceeds to quote Wilson in regard to the sometime unfair perception of people towards sects;

"Because sectarians do not choose what others choose, holds themselves apart in their use of leisure time and ... associate only with each other rather than with non-members, that sects elicit some of the strongest reactions from the general public. The child-centered society is inclined to see prohibitions respecting children's play activities as wilful deprivation. We live in a tolerant society. There is no reason at all why the mother should not espouse the beliefs and practices of Jehovah's Witnesses There is nothing immoral or socially obnoxious in the beliefs and practice of the sect... (Wilson 1990: 37, 38, 51)
Due to the negative perception of a Witness upbringing, two court custody cases discussed by Singelenberg found against the Witness parent. The reasoning is worth consideration and highlights the negative viewpoints inculcated into Witness children.

Case i The Netherlands, 1991
In this custody case the husband left the wife after she became a Jehovah's Witness. The wife initially won custody but later this was overturned and given to the husband.

"Of course, the Board does not render an opinion about the religious conviction of the mother. However, the Board cannot ignore the fact that mother's active involvement in this community will have consequences for the upbringing of the children.

… though mother is able to put herself in the experience of the children, it remains to be seen if she, from her univocal view on the world and on mankind, can give the children enough opportunity to form an opinion of their own and enable them to unfold and develop their talents.

It remains to be seen if [the mother] can give enough room to the children, so they can unfold according to their nature. The fundamental as well as the relational anchorage of the children in the group of Jehovah's Witnesses give reason for some concern, because in case they react against this belief there is a danger they end up in a social vacuum."
Case ii Germany, 1993
In case ii a husband was disfellowshipped and the wife took custody. The Jehovah's Witness wife started to beat the child, one time an eyewitness found the child unconscious. The wife's reason was that he was turning out like the husband and she was frustrated due to the divorce. An expert on 'Cults and World Views' from the Evangelical Lutheran Church was called to provide information about the type of harm that comes from being raised as a Witness;

"[1] The educational target of the Jehovah's Witnesses is subordination by coercion and uncritical acceptance of religious doctrines and teachings, in order to break the free will of the growing child and to mould it into an uncritical and dependent individual.

[2] It should be made clear that the outside world is a hostile environment, which has harmful effects on children of Jehovah's Witnesses. But more than that, Jehovah's Witnesses should fear a vengeful God and an imminent Armageddon. Unbelievers, including unbelieving children will be victims of a 'bloody liquidation' in that final battle.

When, for example, the child is being cast off from the community, family members are not allowed to have any spiritual contact with the child. The relationship between parents and child will be strictly limited to satisfy the biological needs of the child. The child will be treated as an outcast.

Secondary education is looked upon with suspicion because 'it has been proved that this will lead to a preference of satanic material things' and a gradual withdrawal from the religious sphere."
The court found "that the child, brought up with these views (as explained by the expert on cults), will probably be mentally harmed for the rest of his life." People in general hold concern for Witness children, specifically due to segregation from the world, coercion based on fear of Armageddon and possible shunning, and being dissuaded from critical thinking and individual development.

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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:38pm On Aug 08
Wonderful thread! smiley
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 12:56pm On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful thread! smiley

Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly

Jw org: We believe that mental illness is a sad result of man's decline into sin and imperfection
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On Aug 08
Great thread!
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 11:21pm On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
Great thread!

Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Jw org: We believe that mental illness is a sad result of man's decline into sin and imperfection

lot false jw mad max
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by Aemmyjah(m): 6:21am On Aug 09
MaxInDHouse:
Great thread!

This man will bite you 😂

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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by Aemmyjah(m): 6:21am On Aug 09
Great thread

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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:38am On Aug 09
Aemmyjah:

This man will bite you 😂

He's the WORSTEST FOOL on Nairaland, always after JWs for quarrel.

If you quote him for reasonable discussion he will not oblige yet he will continue following you up and down the forum just to exchange insults! grin

Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 6:39am On Aug 09
Aemmyjah:
This man will bite you 😂

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost false jw supporter aemmy
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 6:41am On Aug 09
Aemmyjah:
Great thread

Pro_26:11  Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Jw org: We believe that mental illness is a sad result of man's decline into sin and imperfection

lost false jw supporter aemmy
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 6:46am On Aug 09
MaxInDHouse:
He's the WORSTEST FOOL on Nairaland, always after JWs for quarrel.
If you quote him for reasonable discussion he will not oblige yet he will continue following you up and down the forum just to exchange insults! grin

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max you are forever making up lies in you head, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:24am On Aug 09
Wonderful thread! smiley
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by Aemmyjah(m): 8:36am On Aug 09
MaxInDHouse:


He's the [b]WORSTEST FOOL [/b]on Nairaland, always after JWs for quarrel.

If you quote him for reasonable discussion he will not oblige yet he will continue following you up and down the forum just to exchange insults! grin

And a pot cracker
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 8:50am On Aug 09
MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful thread! smiley

lost false jw mad max

Pro_26:11  Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Jw org: We believe that mental illness is a sad result of man's decline into sin and imperfection
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 8:54am On Aug 09
Aemmyjah:
And a pot cracker

"ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool"

lost false jw supporter aemmy

of course you love to change and mock God's word:

rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 12:37am On Aug 10
Mental Illness Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses

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John Spencer
The Mental Health of Jehovah's Witnesses by John Spencer is widely quoted though the findings are dubious. This found that in the 3 year period from 1971 to and including 1973, 7,546 inpatients were admitted to the West Australian Mental Health Service Psychiatric Hospitals, of which 50 were active Witnesses. This represents a rate of 2.54/1000 for the general population and 4.17/1000 for Jehovah's Witnesses. Particularly high was the rate of Schizophrenics amongst Witnesses.

Jerry Bergman
The following excerpts are summarized quotes from PARADISE POSTPONED...AND POSTPONED: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Have a High Mental Illness Level. Jerry Bergman has researched and written extensively about Jehovah's Witnesses. As a former Witness his findings may be considered biased, however the reasoning he provides merits consideration.

Rylander's Study
In 1946, Gosta Rylander investigated a sample of conscientious objectors imprisoned in Sweden. About four percent of the eligible Swedish population was judged psychologically "unfit" for military service, and the corresponding figure for Witnesses was 21 percent, or five times greater. This is close to the same ratio later found by John Spencer, whose diagnosis of "psychotic" or "neurotic" was made on the basis of mental hospital admission screening.

The First American Study
In 1949, in the first study on American Witness mental health, M. J. Pescor diagnosed as psychotic over seven percent of his total sample of 177 young males imprisoned due to obeying the Watchtower's prohibition against complying with military regulations. The level of Witness psychosis in his sample was about 17 times higher than that for the population as a whole.

Montague and Other Researchers
Havor Montague (another name Jerry Bergman publishes under) monitored the admissions to state and private mental hospitals and local mental health clinics in Ohio from 1972 to 1976. From this study of 102 cases, he estimated, "The mental illness rate of JWs is approximately 10 to 16 times higher than the rate for the general, nonWitness population... From his intensive interviews with Witness patients and others, Montague concluded that persons who had emotional problems were attracted to the Witnesses, but involvement also caused many of the emotional problems that they suffered. This is evident from the fact that many with problems reported they were far happier after they left.

Many reasons exist for the mental health problems among Witnesses, but research has found the following to be the most important.

Changes in Policy
The Watchtower is in a perpetual state of doctrinal change, often flip-flopping as many as three or four times on a single issue.

The Watchtower Theocracy
Another major cause for disillusionment among Witnesses is that they are taught that their organization is a theocracy, specifically run by God. Those inside the Watchtower organization are the only true servants of God, and all of those outside are evil persons soon to be destroyed at Armageddon. Yet many are aware of the numerous cases of Witnesses who have done horrible things.


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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:22am On Aug 10
Wonderful thread!
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 5:56am On Aug 10
MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful thread!

lost false jw mad max

yes, thank jwfacts dot com, and there's more to come
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by Aemmyjah(m): 7:05am On Aug 10
MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful thread!

E Karo sir
🙏
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:11am On Aug 10
Aemmyjah:


E Karo sir
🙏

Good morning my brother! smiley
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 9:54am On Aug 10
Jw org: We believe that mental illness is a sad result of man's decline into sin and imperfection

sin and imperfections causing mental illness: paranoia, lying, blasphemy, etc.

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